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Title: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: R-Tistic on November 30, 2004, 12:19:30 AM
Dr. Dre 2001 was released and debuted at #2 on the billboard charts. I always felt that if it weren't for the fact that MP3 early downloads and bootleg CDs were just emerging and starting to affect rap sales, this album woulda debuted at #1. Even though this album went multi-platinum (which is all that really matters), it was just funny to me that this album never made it to #1.

I listened to the entire album this past weekend, and this is definitely an album that I think has replay value and may never get old. Even though the sound was something new at the time 5 years ago, I don't see any of the music on there soundin dated at all.

I hear a lotta people say that you can't really call an album "classic" until you hear it 5 years after it came out...and I will have to say that this is definitely a CLASSIC.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 30, 2004, 12:27:13 AM
yeah its classic, my only complaint is them pointless skits he had in there. but hearin tracks like "Xxplosive", "Fuck You", "Bitch Niggaz", and "Akrite" made it worth it.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: R-Tistic on November 30, 2004, 12:30:37 AM
yeah its classic, my only complaint is them pointless skits he had in there. but hearin tracks like "Xxplosive", "Fuck You", "Bitch Niggaz", and "Akrite" made it worth it.

I feel u. Well the first skit was pointless to me, the one at the bar, and then "light speed" was the only average or even weak song on the album to me. The other skits were pretty tite, the porno shit was hillarious, and the Eddie Griffin shit was pretty funny.

If I could change anything else about it, I would put a Snoop verse on "Lets get high" cot damn that shit woulda been fire.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: West Coast Veteran on November 30, 2004, 01:03:05 AM
This is album is a true classic. No throwing the word around, it is a classic. It's still in my weekly rotation. I just push play and wait until I hear Chong's voice at the end. No skipping, nothing. I haven't had an album blow my mind away since this album dropped. When I first heard the "Xxxplosive" and "Forgot About Dre" beats I was speechless. Damn I hope I get the same feeling when Detox drops.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Trayvone on November 30, 2004, 01:34:36 AM
Man, I remember the day I bought the CD like it was yesterday. I ditched class with one of my boyz and got both Dre and Kurupts's Streetz is a Mutha CD. Two of my all time favorites of all time. A lot of people saying the skits would be the only weakness but I was actually feeling them. The only weak point of the album for me was "Light Speed". Coo track, but the others were far superior to me than that one. Anyway, classic CD and I have no doubt in my mind that Detox will be another one.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Elevz on November 30, 2004, 01:42:43 AM
I can't complain about the skits, can't complain about light speed. I knew this would be a classic from the very first time I heard it, there's not much about this cd that could or should have been done better.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on November 30, 2004, 03:24:53 AM
nuts... definitely a classic.


who else here was posting on the dre2001 forum when this dropped?

Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Trayvone on November 30, 2004, 04:18:30 AM
nuts... definitely a classic.


who else here was posting on the dre2001 forum when this dropped?


Wasn't posting, but I was browsing damn near everyday during lab at school. I was never apart of any of the activities on the board, but I remember all the beefs and sh*t there. Funny stuff, can't believe its been 5 years already.  I was 18 when I started and i'm 23 now. What a trip....................
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on November 30, 2004, 04:20:06 AM
yeah crazy... for those who don't know... my name on that forum was " PsyCreate "
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Lil Jay on November 30, 2004, 04:30:53 AM
damn 5 years already, i was 16 when it dropped thats crazy!!! a true classic without a doubt
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Sir Petey on November 30, 2004, 05:55:26 AM
I can't complain about the skits, can't complain about light speed. I knew this would be a classic from the very first time I heard it, there's not much about this cd that could or should have been done better.


Light speed is my favorite track on the whole album!!
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on November 30, 2004, 06:09:42 AM
check this out....


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Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: T-Dogg on November 30, 2004, 06:32:42 AM
2001 classic? Oh hell yeah. Don't have any complaints about the album, and it all sounds fresh still. 8)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Murrow on November 30, 2004, 08:30:07 AM
Ah Yes.  A classic for sure -  instant classic I think.  I remember coppin the CD the day it dropped only to gettin it taken away the next day at school!
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Acgrundy on November 30, 2004, 10:51:09 AM
I don't think bootlegging on the internet hurt sales of this album at all.  bootlegging on the net wasn't big back then.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on November 30, 2004, 10:56:04 AM
I think this album's way too overrated,I dont see this as a classic album.Its got a few classic songs but some of the songs are just plain average in production & some of the rappers on certain tracks couldlve been replaced with other mc's.As for Light Speed,thats 1 of the highlights of the album.Dope Fredwreck production.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on November 30, 2004, 11:07:26 AM
fredwreck? lol...

quit sippin that haterade...
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: notorious^q8I on November 30, 2004, 11:40:22 AM
def a classic
no complaints about the album except for the removed mc ren verse
coulda been hot
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Acgrundy on November 30, 2004, 11:41:48 AM
fred wreck himself said he produced light speed
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: eS El Duque on November 30, 2004, 12:08:52 PM
i was in grade 8..some dude in my science clas sold me his copy for 5 bucks  ;D..3-4 days after iit released..his parents got it for him but he was into rock and shit  8)..worked out well for me
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on November 30, 2004, 12:47:11 PM
fredwreck? lol...

quit sippin that haterade...
I only pointed it out that he was the dude that produced the track,so dont get me wrong cause I got respect for Dre,Im just stating my opinion here.I mean,does this album have to be a classic in every1's eyes??? ::)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on November 30, 2004, 12:50:54 PM
fred wreck himself said he produced light speed
Exactly,now Overseer,give my karma back :laugh:
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Juronimo on November 30, 2004, 03:33:34 PM
It's a good album, but not a classic. Streetz is a Mutha dropped the same day and IMO is better.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Bramsterdam (see ya) on November 30, 2004, 04:10:38 PM
Classic no dount, I agree with murrow too i think it was an instant classic. Still D.R.E. remains to be my favourite Dre song ever, and favourite westcoast song-mainstream/gangsta anyways.

Only complaint is maybe one or two skits which we're useless and Bitch Niggaz, found it to be wack. 
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Sir Petey on November 30, 2004, 04:27:14 PM
fred wreck himself said he produced light speed



damn.....are yall serious.???? ......I never knew this......Im not disputing this or doubting this but can some one give me a source for this?....just for my own satisfaction
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on November 30, 2004, 05:32:54 PM
I love that cd man.....its got mad replay value..the skits were ok


"You look like A.C. Green,Bitch dont call here anymore"..
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: ImmortalOne on November 30, 2004, 05:40:22 PM
There's been alot of big selling albums that never reached #1.....

The Chronic, believe it or not, never reached #1....its peak position was #3.

2Pac's Greatest Hits has sold almost 10 million, but it never reached #1 either...I think it debuted at #5 then peaked to #2 once.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: [sepehr] on November 30, 2004, 05:45:07 PM
Very very dope album I was in 7th grade I copped that shit and been listenin ever since...

I know alot of peeps who are thos "I hate rap" type people who loved this album

I would def. say classic
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Jrock on November 30, 2004, 06:56:48 PM
Man ya'll making me feel old.  I was a freshman in college when that shit dropped.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 30, 2004, 10:09:01 PM
wut mc ren had his verse removed>?  why? was it from l.a niggaz ..i didnt know
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Suga Foot on November 30, 2004, 11:04:34 PM
I remember that shit like it was yesterday.  I skipped school to buy it.  I signed up on the dre 2001 forum and didn't post much, but I read everything there.  Check this out, I still have a 'tentative tracklisting' of the cd:

1.  Welcome Back (Chronic 2 Intro)
2.  The Return
3.  Messin Wit You
4.  Anotha "G' Thang
5.  Slut Trick
6.  Ice Breaker
7.  The Difference
8.  Niteclub 49
9.  The Untouchable
10.  The Next Level
11.  For My Homies
12.  Hit It Again
13.  G Funk Trance
14.  Doggz For Life
15.  Who It Be
16.  Chemical Reaction
17.  Gz Up Hoez Down
18.  Smack Smack
19.  L.A.'s Finest
20.  Ressurection
21.  Forgot About Dre
22.  The Roach pt 2


I was anticipating this CD more than anything.  This CD is mos def.  a Classic for me.  The dope thing about it is, I'll go thru fazes.  Like I'll put the cd in, and I'll just bump "Bang Bang" for like a week cuz I'm feelin it.  Then a month later I'll put the CD back in, and I'll bump "Big Egos" for a week. 


oh and it was Korn's "issues" that kept 2001 from reaching #1.  When was the last time anyone talked about that Korn album  >:(
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 30, 2004, 11:26:02 PM
It's a good album, but not a classic. Streetz is a Mutha dropped the same day and IMO is better.

same day? I knew same week but damn
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on December 01, 2004, 12:48:27 AM

that fred wreck thing is straight rumour..

look at the beats fred was making at the time.. remember streetz is a mutha dropped the same day as 2001.. it wasnt until kurupts next album he switched his sound up.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Darksider on December 01, 2004, 01:02:07 AM
yeah great cd...and great week with 2001 and streets is a mutha :)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 01, 2004, 09:03:27 AM

that fred wreck thing is straight rumour..

look at the beats fred was making at the time.. remember streetz is a mutha dropped the same day as 2001.. it wasnt until kurupts next album he switched his sound up.
Whatever,Fredwreck himself said he produced a cut for Chronic 2001.His production sounds the same to me,I dont hear anything different in his production from them to now.BTW,how do u know its just a rumour,any proof???
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Bomb-Aź on December 01, 2004, 09:21:18 AM
classic for sure. i still get chills when next episode come on.



peace
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Acgrundy on December 01, 2004, 09:23:10 AM
fred wreck don't seem to be lying too much.  I doubt he would take credit for something like that if he didn't deserve it.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Sikx on December 01, 2004, 09:40:47 AM
its true classic, i still listen to it monthly, and it still sounds so good, it has huge replay value,imo.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: dexter on December 01, 2004, 10:41:34 AM
9.9 out of 10
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on December 01, 2004, 10:59:49 AM

that fred wreck thing is straight rumour..

look at the beats fred was making at the time.. remember streetz is a mutha dropped the same day as 2001.. it wasnt until kurupts next album he switched his sound up.
Whatever,Fredwreck himself said he produced a cut for Chronic 2001.His production sounds the same to me,I dont hear anything different in his production from them to now.BTW,how do u know its just a rumour,any proof???
why am I repeating myself.. you're now asking me what I asked you.

you say fred wreck said it.. where? post proof then.

the only thing i've ever seen is that one of the songs fred did on kurupts NEXT album sounded a bit like lightspeed from 2001.

fred started (and quicky stopped) sounding like dre on space boogie.. which dropped TWO YEARS LATER
i'll repeat what i said.. nothing fred wreck did on an album that dropped the same day as dre's sounded anything like it.


you cant just spout off at the mouth you have to put up facts.


fred wreck don't seem to be lying too much.  I doubt he would take credit for something like that if he didn't deserve it.


like i'm trying to point out to this guy above... anyone can "say" fred said it.. but can they show me fred said it?

no.. i've looked and i cant find jack shit.

Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 01, 2004, 11:48:51 AM
^It was somewhere in the DPG forum,its a whole new place now so I cant show u anythin
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on December 01, 2004, 11:55:00 AM
someone said it on a forum... wow it must be true  ::) ::)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: CRAFTY on December 01, 2004, 11:56:14 AM
2001 classic? Oh hell yeah. Don't have any complaints about the album, and it all sounds fresh still. 8)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 01, 2004, 11:59:28 AM
someone said it on a forum... wow it must be true  ::) ::)
Fredwreck did,duh ::)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 01, 2004, 12:21:38 PM
Actually,to come think of it I think Kronik posted that,not too sure tho.Either way,Fredwreck did not disagree with what Kronik said.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Don Seer on December 01, 2004, 12:23:53 PM
did fred even know he said it? ;)

ya know kronik is full of shit.. so who knows.....
(btw come to the IRC channel if u havent heard mauz phone prank him.. lmao.. he gets heated.. lol)

if anyone ever interviews fred try make sure the question gets asked :)
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 01, 2004, 12:46:18 PM
^lol,I gotta hear that phone call to him,I'll be there in a sec.& about Kronik,ure right,that dude is full of shit.
Title: Re: 5 years ago this week.....
Post by: Acgrundy on December 01, 2004, 02:11:33 PM
fred wreck said it in an interview.  believe what the fuck you guys want, I don't give a shit.  no one on here can proove it so it don't matter.  people always sayin they produced songs that dre takes credit for?  who knows?  no one on here.  I just don't see fred wreck lying like that.  if daz said it I wouldn't believe it, but fred seems believable.