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Title: "Tha Doggfather" is almost classic...
Post by: israelihiphop on December 04, 2004, 08:08:49 PM
I just listened to this album again and it has to be a 4.5/5...No Dre production but Daz, Pooh, Sam Snead all come with tight beats, and lyrically this was probably Snoop's best effort...Downtown assassins is just 8)
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Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on December 04, 2004, 08:13:37 PM
Doggfather sux, Daz did a couple of heaters, but I will say it over again, DJ POOH IS WACK
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Post by: ImmortalOne on December 04, 2004, 08:26:03 PM
I guess im middle of the road here. Definatly not classic or even near classic, but not wack either. Overall, a good album and still my second fav Snoop album.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 04, 2004, 08:35:39 PM
Word, It is Snoop's second best album by far.

Snoop is like Suge, he never recovered after the Death Row era.
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Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on December 04, 2004, 08:36:04 PM
classic. definitely. love this album.
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Post by: King Of L.A. on December 04, 2004, 08:38:40 PM
I thought The Last Meal & Topp Dogg were better.  I didn't like this album.
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Post by: Bomb-A® on December 04, 2004, 09:26:21 PM
easily his second best. last meal is a close third tho



peace
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Post by: Acgrundy on December 04, 2004, 09:37:36 PM
2nd best, not classic.  some very dope songs.  and dj pooh is a sick ass producer.
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Post by: Machiavelli on December 04, 2004, 09:37:58 PM
The production is decent nothing special but i thought Snoop was better lyrically on this album overall but DoggyStyle is still a better album overall.
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on December 04, 2004, 09:42:01 PM
Doggfather sux, Daz did a couple of heaters, but I will say it over again, DJ POOH IS WACK

I thought The Last Meal & Topp Dogg were better.  I didn't like this album.

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Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 04, 2004, 09:44:13 PM
I just listened to this album again and it has to be a 4.5/5...No Dre production but Daz, Pooh, Sam Snead all come with tight beats, and lyrically this was probably Snoop's best effort...Downtown assassins is just 8)

Co Sign 100% Bad Azz ghost wrote on that album.
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Post by: Bomb-A® on December 04, 2004, 09:48:06 PM
pooh gave some funky beats on that

*bumps vapors*



peace
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on December 04, 2004, 09:56:58 PM
Funk yeah this album is a classic...

Best Tracks

Snoop Upside Ya Head
Groupie
Dj Wake Up
Doggfather
Downtown Assasins
Up Jump Tha Boogie
Doggyland

I love this album!!
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Post by: Machiavelli on December 04, 2004, 10:03:42 PM
Its not a classic
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Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on December 04, 2004, 10:21:30 PM
Its not a classic

for me it is!!
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Post by: Milk Man on December 05, 2004, 12:01:47 AM
This album is fucking Classic , Doggyland is the tightest song , i really think after doggfather snoop should have gracefully ended his career , with them two albums
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Post by: PLANT on December 05, 2004, 12:20:55 AM
Doggfather is the shiiiiet.!  "Sixx Minutes" w Tray Deee and "Downtown Assasins" are just sick. Paid the Cost and even R &G take the backseat to this.  Snoops best album without Dre.
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Post by: Sir Petey on December 05, 2004, 12:22:01 AM
this album is the dopest shit that came out that year besides 2pacs projects.....and dj pooh is tha shit .....his comilation bad news travels fast stays in my stereo...
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Post by: Westcoastin' on December 05, 2004, 12:45:40 AM
downtown Assasins is tiiiiight
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Post by: Big BpG on December 05, 2004, 12:54:02 AM
doggystyle is what 'classic' GANGSTA rap should be
last meal is what 'classic' gangsta/intelligent rap should be

doggfather is a good album, but last meal blows it out of the water in my mind... and just barely beats out doggystyle

-BpG
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Post by: T-Dogg on December 05, 2004, 03:21:25 AM
Personally I don't think the whole LP is a classic, but there definately are straight up classic songs there. Vapors, Gold Rush, Downtown Assasins... 8)
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Post by: Leggy Hendrix on December 05, 2004, 03:26:59 AM
this was a dope album...
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Post by: Darksider on December 05, 2004, 03:41:22 AM
this was a dope album...
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Post by: Lord Funk on December 05, 2004, 03:54:32 AM
The BIGGEST problem with this album isn't the beats or the lyrics.

It's the fact that NO ONE knows how to mix Snoop's vocals better than Dre. Snoop's voice is too low in the mix on nearly every track on this album. Listen to Snoop on a D-R-E track and then listen to him on a Pooh production - Pooh had no idea how to make his vocals sit in the mix right. Fucked up the whole feel of the album for me.   
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Post by: i love men who take pictures with their booty's out on December 05, 2004, 06:54:35 AM
doggystyle is what 'classic' GANGSTA rap should be



-BpG



 beg to differ on that kinfolk

classic gangsta rap is.. mc eiht we come strapped.


but doggfather was a good album...i liked it...alot.
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Post by: IzUwitIt on December 05, 2004, 07:02:12 AM
yeah, a top 3 Snoop album, solid and had some heaters but Last Meal was Snoop's 2nd BAOAT
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Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on December 05, 2004, 10:27:53 AM
last meal is what 'classic' gangsta/intelligent rap should be

Am I the only one who struggles to see how Last Meal was intelligent rap?

On topic, Doggfather is a dope album, it was always fall into the same category as Nas's It Was Written, because although they were both dope albums they were disappointments compared to the albums they followed, meaning that people never really gave them the credit they deserved.
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Post by: So Much Style on December 05, 2004, 10:38:44 AM
this album is lovely. so many classic songs on this shit. awesome.
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Post by: Lincoln on December 05, 2004, 10:47:31 AM
My favorite Snoop album.
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Post by: teecee on December 05, 2004, 11:38:54 AM
This thread has been made about 5 times in the past couple years, but yeah, it IS a classic, or at least a personal classic to me.  Downtown assassins, wake up (OJ)- tray deee RIPS that shit!!!!
the album is listenable from front to back, not one skipper!  I actually didnt like the album at first, it was so different from what i expected-- when the albium was released we were all expectinjg dre beats and shit, so it was a letdown at first to say the least.  However, back then without internet you didnt have access to lots oif new shit so we kept listening to it, and it became a classic in my eyes
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Post by: Ras Kass' Toothpick on December 05, 2004, 01:30:51 PM
It's not a classic, or even close but it is a really good album.
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Post by: C-clamp on December 05, 2004, 01:59:12 PM
The BIGGEST problem with this album isn't the beats or the lyrics.

It's the fact that NO ONE knows how to mix Snoop's vocals better than Dre. Snoop's voice is too low in the mix on nearly every track on this album. Listen to Snoop on a D-R-E track and then listen to him on a Pooh production - Pooh had no idea how to make his vocals sit in the mix right. Fucked up the whole feel of the album for me.

That's the truth.  I remember when I first got this album in 96, I was wondering why I could barely hear snoops voice, still this is Snoop's best album lyrically, even though kurupt and bad azz ghost wrote a some tracks (blue berry and another one).  Stands outs for me were:

Doggfather, doggyland, downtown assassins, sixx minutes, OJ(wake up) w/ Tray Dee, groupie....shoot there were a lot of tight tracks
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Post by: lbc213 on December 05, 2004, 02:49:59 PM
Doggfather is a classic. The question for me is, why are people hating on Top Dogg?
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Post by: from the yay on December 05, 2004, 03:43:10 PM
doggfather is easily my favorite snoop album.
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Post by: Wild_Elmo on December 05, 2004, 04:22:38 PM
yall are crazy, listen to doggfather again, you will appreciate it more.
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Post by: LyRiCaL_G on December 05, 2004, 04:38:54 PM
4.5/5 album..........most niggaz would only hope to able to release an album of this quality as a first album........obviously dogystyle was what snoop had to follow up which was one of hiphops finest moments y'all, whether u like it or not
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Post by: dexter on December 06, 2004, 06:10:59 AM
91 out of 100
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Post by: ··: O.G Kody™ :·· on December 06, 2004, 07:05:14 AM
doggystyle is what 'classic' GANGSTA rap should be
last meal is what 'classic' gangsta/intelligent rap should be

doggfather is a good album, but last meal blows it out of the water in my mind... and just barely beats out doggystyle

-BpG

LOL @ Last Meal. You can't even compare the two - Snoop barely got a word in with all the guest appearances on that album.
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Post by: Lil Jay on December 06, 2004, 07:56:33 AM
I break fools off like lepracy!!!
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Post by: LazyLatino on December 06, 2004, 08:26:45 AM
whatta fuck this thread again???? ....how tha fuck can u say that this album is a classic...its horrible...Snoop sounds like he been smokin crack through the recording sessions...no flow no nothin...




Peace

LazyL