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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Big BpG on December 05, 2004, 02:32:47 AM
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Before Dubcnn...before Dubcc...before Aftermath Music...before Thug Poetry...before DJ Quik.net...before Cali Rap...before Warren G-Funk Online...before MC Eight.tk... and during the birth of Westcoast 2k and the death of Snoop's Dogghouse there was...
WC Killaz
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2real
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G-Funk Era
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WC Rydaz
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Westcoast Aftershock
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& me
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Snoop's Doggpound
it was about 5 years ago...yes, five years.
It was the year 2000, I was still in high school. In fact Dre's 2001 album had just released and tha eastsidaz first album was about to drop... it was the second coming of westcoast rap. It lasted only two short years, you could argue even shorter. However, during that time there was a group of kids, like me, who not only loved westcoast rap, but loved where it was, where it was going and where it had been. This is my story, the story of Snoop's Doggpound and the story of everyone who took party in the revolultion. Without it, there would be no Dubcnn, no Dubcc, no nothing. Read on.
I spent my whole summer learning how to make a damn web page. My whole summer. When I finally had it down (at least what I thought was down) I needed to make a site that had a subject. It was my personal page to Snoop Dogg. Just a small site, that I created, had some photos of him, a little bio I stole from another snoop site and a little link to email me... very simple, very boring, nothing at all. However, in my search I came across another website surrounded by Snoop. Snoop's Dogghouse.
There I was reading up to date news on this guy. Everyday was something new. Hmm, pretty cool site, nice layout, cool design, awesome news, and damn, new snoop songs like every week. I used the instant messenger ICQ and came across a dude by the name of dYnamic...he was doing what I was doing, making a snoop fan site. Both of our sites were nothing compared to Snoop's Dogghouse. That site was king. The dr dre of Snoop sites. Strangely enough, we both lived in Wisconsin. Kinda cool. Honestly, it was the first time I ever instant messaged someone in my life. As time went on, I jacked all the dogghouse's news for my site... i was a rip off artist at it's best, but oddly, over time, people would email me thinking I knew Snoop Dogg. How did people even find my site? Very weird. But slowly I started figuring this information thing was easy, go to some news site, search for Snoop Dogg, and bam, new news... so thats where they got their news. But what I didn't have was their music. They had official unreleased music I had never heard... they still had me beat. But then, one day, there was no update on their site...or the next day...or the next day... slowly tha dogghouse was becoming empty... no more music, nothing... and slowly, their visitors became my visitors... and thats where the real story began.
One day, some weird dude posted on my Yahoo Snoop club about his dumb westcoast rap site... his name
Lil Jermaine ... hahaha, wow
I went to his site and damn, it was the wackest, most crap layout I had ever seen. However, his info was top notch. The site just looked like my toilet paper after I wiped. Pure comedy. But jermaine became cool, we talked, did the whole IM thing for a long time. He got news, I got news... it was like this little partnership between two big companies. He got my visitors, I got his. Slowly things started turning big. He knew this dude named Bplease ... who ran this site with this other dude named Trauma. The site, WC Killaz. Like westcoast 2k, just more underground at the time. They had a red and black layout, haha funny to think back. Then there was this site called 2real ... I think that's what I was... to me, it was always a shady site, like for scam artists... cool design, but the content always seemed rip offed.
Then one day, on my site board, I met this guy named Teecee, and another guy named Moses, and another guy named Wesley Snipez. Three cool duded who posted occasionaly. It was cool. I had started something. I had started a small community among snoop fans. Lil Jermaine and Bplease had the same thing going for their sites, so one day... Bplease asked me
What if we combined our boards?
damn, I remember that day, it was a tough decision. My members didn't want to be a part of another board but mine...but I agreed and from there, it came official...
the birth of Dubcc ... yet it was westcoast connection if i remembered correctly...
thats where I met assholes like
Nima, Overseer, Rud, Sikotic, Westcoast Veteran, Now I Know, Axle Fohley, BigJakeDoggyDogg, Maxi Padz, Jaymastajay
I know I'm missing names, I'll never be good If I win an Oscar...
but there those people I hated
aka
Nino Brown
JohnyTanna
i hated them... all the european people liked them though... not me
that was the beginning... that was our doggystyle, and the momentum rode for a while.
However over time, I found maintaining a site hard to do for me. I didn't have the time and I just wasn't in it anymore. The same was felt from Bplease and Trauma. I soon left the site to go, just like my favorite site, Snoop's Dogghouse. That was that, my run had ended, as did wc killaz and slowly, our doggfather days hit us. So yes, a story of rise and fall. It's awesome how we all came together and continue to grow.
Really, it was a bunch of individuals who were doing their own thing and just happened to step on each other.
I'm missing a lot. for example, a lot of folks came from the Dre board.. I was never a part of that board, so leave that story to someone else...
but I'm done
this has left me to one little surprise and hopeful project
For old time sakes I've uploaded my old snoop site, but just the discography section. To date it's still the most accurate discography of the dogg. Most of the work was done by Snoop's Dogghouse, but I updated it every time a new snoop song released.
I have hopes that with the help of the board we can continue to make it up to date. We have 4 years to make up on it.
There are just simple rules to it...
1. Only songs that are retailed can be on this discography
2. No unreleased songs
3. No radio premieres
if you can buy a cd with the song on it, then it goes on the discography...
this is a hopeful idea, and i hope it can go through. so post any comments on the story and feel free to list songs on the board.
Remember, a release date is helpful
here's the page
http://www.bluedezigns.net/discography.html
-BpG
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oh man....these is memories...I used to get on the net through my sega dreamcast and stumbled across snoops dogg house looking for some info on tha dogg and on daz and I revisited that shit faithfully and out here in MI that was my only real way to keep up on westcoast because every one backthen was on jay z and master ps dick....this is a classic post good shit
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i remember that... most of it at least... i never posted on message boards and i never used programs like kazaa and napster back then, so i always went to those sites to listen to all the real audio files :D
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you forgot NWA2K
WC Rydaz wasnt around back then was it? not like it is now anyways...
o2deathrow made a bigger impact back then
your story is wronga bout the board name too...
it was called West Coast Affiliates forum.. after that big fight b-please had wit me and I got kicked out of the affiliates (wow i was so depressed.. boo hooo.. lol).. YOU came up with the name West Coast Connection when we were looking for a name.. i later changed it to DUBCC after i invented the name DUBCNN for the news spin off
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btw bpg.. you might want to check the snoop CV in the vault... ;)
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i remember i visited Snoops doggpound and westcoast2k like everysingleday back in the days, just to catch up with the news.
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Nima, Overseer, Rud, Sikotic, Westcoast Veteran, Now I Know, Axle Fohley, BigJakeDoggyDogg, Maxi Padz, Jaymastajay
I know I'm missing names, I'll never be good If I win an Oscar...
but there those people I hated
aka
Nino Brown
JohnyTanna
i hated them... all the european people liked them though... not me
that was the beginning... that was our doggystyle, and the momentum rode for a while.
-BpG
Why did you hate me when you hardly knew me? I remember:
The same reason everyone disses me. Because I never sent you MP3's. . . ::)
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The real websites that started this whole thing were:
The true "OG's" I would say were, NWA2K, Chronic Overload, my boy KrazyQBan's shit (NoSeeds.net was going to be KrazyQban & Nino Brown in 99), Playa P's Death Row Records Site (inc Matty Jory's DR Newz), G-Locc's Death Row News, DRHQ, DEATHROW2K (I tried to get KPac back in couple of years ago), Snoopsdogghouse (ran by G Litt from hiphopspot.com), O2Deathrow, Westside2Real, Hitemup. . .
Then you had the audio sites who started posting mp3s: TheShiznit.cjb.net, Tha Thug Pound (Which was Lil Jay's original WC2K)
Also the West Coast Affiliates (this forum, DPGC2000.net, Westcoastaftershock, Westcoast2k, WCKillaz, Snoops Dogg Pound, The Shiznit), G Funk Era. . .
Later on came. . . . Tha Rap Scene, TooGangsta.net, 2Untouchable, WCRydaz, Rapindustry, DUBCNN, Streetflop.com etc
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I wote an article for that Chronic Overload site debating Dr. Dre vs. MP3. That was so long ago, i forgot what name I wrote that under
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The real websites that started this whole thing were:
The true "OG's" I would say were, NWA2K, Chronic Overload, my boy KrazyQBan's shit (NoSeeds.net was going to be KrazyQban & Nino Brown in 99), Playa P's Death Row Records Site (inc Matty Jory's DR Newz), G-Locc's Death Row News, DRHQ, DEATHROW2K (I tried to get KPac back in couple of years ago), Snoopsdogghouse (ran by G Litt from hiphopspot.com), O2Deathrow, Westside2Real, Hitemup. . .
Then you had the audio sites who started posting mp3s: TheShiznit.cjb.net, Tha Thug Pound (Which was Lil Jay's original WC2K)
Also the West Coast Affiliates (this forum, DPGC2000.net, Westcoastaftershock, Westcoast2k, WCKillaz, Snoops Dogg Pound, The Shiznit), G Funk Era. . .
Later on came. . . . Tha Rap Scene, TooGangsta.net, 2Untouchable, WCRydaz, Rapindustry, DUBCNN, Streetflop.com etc
you sure about Qban's noseeds.net being 99? i remember it was 2000 when he left the other site he was working on.. maybe im wrong but im pretty sure. anyways yeah those were good times when snoopsdogghouse was like the first fan site i ever visited when i seen all the audio they had... i couldnt believe it.. then i met alex aka dpgc2k and was with his site til the end. i met a lot of kool people (and talked a lot of shit to not so kool people) along the way. it was crazy how much id go to everyones sites everyday to see what they had to say. shit the time spent on the net sure helped me keep my dumb ass out of jail lol but its all good anyways im rambling, peace to everyone i got much respect for yall. and thanx seer for holding this place down.
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yeah it was 2K... coz in 1999 dre's album came out, in 2K Chronic Overload opened.. and was hacked.. and NoSeeds started directly after (qban was the designer for CO).. at the very start of 2001 this board opened.. and noseeds was long dead by then
i still dunno who "the_real_narrator" was.. people keep accusing me.. but u already know my alter ego at the time.. Overseer ;)
and no probs ;) i'm lucky i can use this shit while i'm at work.. so at least 8 hours / 5 days a week I can keep tabs on this place
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yep dpgc2000.net and westcoast2k.net used to be my fav sites.
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Yeah QBan did NoSeeds.net in 2000, my bad. but we talked about doing a site around Xmas 99. He designed it and everything, but it just didnt happen. I liked that guy a lot, even though everyone hated on him. What happened to him? Didnt he start DJing? I havent spoken with Qban in about 4 years. . .
Snoopsdogghouse did have a lot of "Rare" Death Row / Snoop songs, but that was G Litt's site. She's a straight up hater and a bitch! She owns Deathrowrecords.com and Hiphopspot.com the bootleg sites. My boy Jonny Tanna has known her for years and doesnt have anything bad to say about her, I knew her back in the day, you dont want issues with her. She's an "Undercover hater".
Alex aka Dpgc2k stayed at Jonny's (DeathRowEntertainment) place when he came to London in 2003. I was supposed to go up and meet him.
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he was here under the name "phiasko" for a long time.. he got into producing.
he was the one who gave engies the passwords for CO :D
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Oh yeah.
"Overseer has a big ego, muthafucker thinks hes better than everyone else".
Thats what I was told before I ever registered and posted on this forum lol not so long ago, maybe early 2003.... I guess its partly true ;D
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:'( :P
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hey hey lets not forget www.raptism.com 8) if we gonna include streethop then u must include Raptism ! and Que, man, Raptism should have been on your poll on WCA about 'other sites visited' hehe
but i always thought Snoopsdogghouse was run by B.B Bashore? he started it, and ran it for ages but like like JD Bastin from pacup.com he got too busy and sold it off or moved it to G Litts server. ..
thats how i think it went anyways ...
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Yo BPG, i was one of the original posters on your site man, i loved that shit..........you're right though., Snoops dogghouse was CRAZY, the audio they had was incredible. Still looking for that Mase song produced by warren g they had...............
I was one of those guys from your board that was mad with the merger; i never posted ont his board for like the first year, but its all good now........but really, the sites were way better back then........
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Yo BPG, i was one of the original posters on your site man, i loved that shit..........you're right though., Snoops dogghouse was CRAZY, the audio they had was incredible. Still looking for that Mase song produced by warren g they had...............
I was one of those guys from your board that was mad with the merger; i never posted ont his board for like the first year, but its all good now........but really, the sites were way better back then........
music was more exciting then too... now it's nothing
-bpg
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Thats a dope post man. I used to be on Snoops Doggpound pretty much everyday, infact, BPG's site was the reason I found DUBCC... :D
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Gambler I dont class Raptism as a Westcoast site. I guess I forgot it :(, its one of the best sites there is. Streetflop.com used to be owned by the same guys that did TooGangsta and ThaRapScene.
Yeah BB did snoopsdogghouse then left the site when he went back to study or something. But I think BB = G Litt. I know for sure she owned that site and all the audio since day one. In fact do you remember in 2002/2003 when she tried to bring Snoopsdogghouse back? The guy that braught it back was called "G Dawg". . .
G Dawg was G Litt ;)
If I sat down and thought about it, I could expose so many, there are so many "imposters" and "phoneys" around, G Litt aka G Dawg aka BB aka Prophet aka "mess4age" (on AIM nowadays) aka a lot of other aliases.
Litt is the well known 2PAC Bootlegger, known for having rare material. She had a lot of hook ups back in the day from Radio stations and stuff, shes ripped off so many people over the years. Indian Canadian chick.
I knew Jordan from Pacup.com back in 2000.
Good shit.
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damn I forgot about wckillaz.com that was one of the best West Coast sites to go to for news/mp3s
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The real websites that started this whole thing were:
The true "OG's" I would say were, NWA2K, Chronic Overload, my boy KrazyQBan's shit (NoSeeds.net was going to be KrazyQban & Nino Brown in 99), Playa P's Death Row Records Site (inc Matty Jory's DR Newz), G-Locc's Death Row News, DRHQ, DEATHROW2K (I tried to get KPac back in couple of years ago), Snoopsdogghouse (ran by G Litt from hiphopspot.com), O2Deathrow, Westside2Real, Hitemup. . .
Then you had the audio sites who started posting mp3s: TheShiznit.cjb.net, Tha Thug Pound (Which was Lil Jay's original WC2K)
Also the West Coast Affiliates (this forum, DPGC2000.net, Westcoastaftershock, Westcoast2k, WCKillaz, Snoops Dogg Pound, The Shiznit), G Funk Era. . .
Later on came. . . . Tha Rap Scene, TooGangsta.net, 2Untouchable, WCRydaz, Rapindustry, DUBCNN, Streetflop.com etc
yep I remember a lot of those sites. I used to check that shit for news all the time. then I found snoops dogghouse, and all those ones bpg listed. I remember downloading mp3's off those old ass sites. It would take me like at least an hour for one song. I remember buying mixtapes off the sites too, of unreleased and rare stuff. then a couple years later Napster was created, and I got hi speed net. Napster was the greatest thing ever, and imo the best music search engine there ever was. wcc was the first forum I ever signed up on. I browsed it for a long time as a guest, then finally one day I registered and posted something.
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Ahhh...those were the days. When westcoast music was at it's best and the information was endless.
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Thats a dope post man. I used to be on Snoops Doggpound pretty much everyday, infact, BPG's site was the reason I found DUBCC... :D
same here lol................i used to be a fuckin high school net banger on that shit, yo BPG i was dub-dogg lol, id go on there and talk shit about snoop and people just cause i thought it was funny, then i came to my senses i even apologized lol
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haha, i remember that, oh the memories
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Ahhh...those were the days. When westcoast music was at it's best and the information was endless.
u think its slowed down?
i think the thing now is we've learned a lot.. back then a lot was fresh.. i think things move faster these days
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That story is a Trip!
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DAMN! i never knew that Bashore = G Litt :-\
that site was dope ... that was THE Snoop site, like pacup was the 2Pac site.
thanks for the comments about Raptism.Com too Que, appreciate it.
8)
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Ahhh...those were the days. When westcoast music was at it's best and the information was endless.
u think its slowed down?
i think the thing now is we've learned a lot.. back then a lot was fresh.. i think things move faster these days
I guess it's all about how you look at it.
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Snoop Doggy Dogg - Over The Counter - 1991 Death Row Records
Side One - Over The Counter. Dogg's Life. Jack Em'. 213 - Dope Slang. Knokin' Off Everthing. Blast For Cash
Side Two - 211. Signed And Detected. Bank Roll. 187. C.O.C. Kingpin. Welcome To Death Row
this is a tape by the way...
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^ thats a complete fake
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haha unlikely :o (http://img63.exs.cx/img63/7605/j1osnooptape.jpg) save.
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its fake... the barcode has been proved to be from another album... its obvious to that some of the text is written with a font that most people recognise comes with Windows plus its anti-alias'd.. like it was made in paintshop pro.
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Yeah there was a whole thread on that tape a long time ago. I remember asking Tony Best if it was legit and then posted his reply to me on here. Someone find that thread! I forgot what he told me about it! Something about the LOGO.
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yeah i think he said that logo is from a later death row project..
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Yeah there was a whole thread on that tape a long time ago. I remember asking Tony Best if it was legit and then posted his reply to me on here. Someone find that thread! I forgot what he told me about it! Something about the LOGO.
here you go Sir
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=23462.0
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haha yea i remember that tape. but the cover is a dope fake. i mean if u re not a pro who knows shit about fonts/gfx n stuff.
btw about the deathrow days of the west coast newz network: i remeber that deathrow-uncut.com website a few years back. damn that page was str8 heat. 8)
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BPG didn't nino find some explicit homosexual content on your ftp?
Anyways, its better to be hated than to be gay.
Take it easy
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wow I remember that snoop tape. that shit was crazy. unbelievable the things people will do for attention.
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fukk ay they had me lookin for that tape everywhere ???
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fukk ay they had me lookin for that tape everywhere ???
do u really thought that after u saw that cover that u would find it in your local record store or anywhere else 12 years later????
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those really were the days. i remember posting at dreday.com and visiting snoopsdogghouse every single day. then like bpg i got into making websites and started small and got bigger. that shit was crazy and i cant believe i put so much effort into things. definetly fun times though. at one time chronic overload was getting around 1,000 hits a day. i dont know how much these other sites get but i was pretty proud of that a couple years back.
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fukk ay they had me lookin for that tape everywhere ???
do u really thought that after u saw that cover that u would find it in your local record store or anywhere else 12 years later????
nah i didn't 'thought' i was just curious.... ::)