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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Sikotic™ on December 11, 2004, 02:28:07 AM

Title: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 11, 2004, 02:28:07 AM
Save your money. I mean I should of known better, since there was no purpose to make a sequel to Ocean's Eleven, but this was ridiculous. It was 2 hours and 5 minutes of overpaid actors goofing off on camera basically. Shitty plot and just basically boring movie.
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Post by: *Jamal* on December 11, 2004, 03:45:22 AM
It wasn't that bad... I mean it's obviously not near as good as Oceans Eleven, but it's worth watching...
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Post by: white Boy on December 11, 2004, 05:31:21 AM
cosign on what you both said, it was ehhh, but not that bad... the begining was so beat tho,..
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Post by: Rampant on December 11, 2004, 06:32:10 AM
Im going to see it today. I assumed before it came out that it wasnt going to be very good, just because they have no plot basis to make another one.
Everyone i know who has seen it has said its lousy/
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Post by: Doggystylin on December 11, 2004, 09:25:07 AM
i went to the premiere of this here in hollywood, lol

hey btw anyone know what the difference is if the movie is being played in digital format instead of th normall version?
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Post by: Rampant on December 11, 2004, 10:10:13 AM
normal is a projector, projecting film.

Digital is a projector, projecting a movie from a computer, so its like dvd quality.
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Post by: eS El Duque on December 11, 2004, 11:25:01 AM
Gonna see this anywayz..i work..i got the money to spend :D
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 11, 2004, 09:13:19 PM
I didn't think it was that bad, but yeah it was shameless, and the "Julia Roberts" scenes were just stupid, just them goofing off like you said.  Really not even that funny, just kind of a joke for the actors. They probably laughed their asses off... *SPOILER






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I think they mistakenly thought that we identify the 'tess' character as unique from Julia Roberts.  We don't.  Julia Roberts is such an incredibly strong persona that when you watch a movie, all you see IS Julia Roberts, you never see the character she plays, no matter how well she acts.  Now, luckily, nearly everyone universally adores her, so you don't really get sick of her overpowering her characters, but the idea to introduce "Julia Roberts" and Tess in the same scenes was just stupid, we already think of her as Julia anyways.

Plus, their was a plot line I didn't quite follow, maybe someone could help me.  At the end, the master thief is shown telling them that the real egg would be in a backpack, then they show the kid walking down the street, with the real egg in his backpack, he gets on the subway, they heist it there by switching the backpacks.  Now... that whole fucking part was confusing to me.  Was THAT the heist? Or was the kid simply delivering the egg to them, from the master thief, and they used the diversion to detract attention from the swap? 

I guess it was supposed to be, the real egg was transported simple like that, while a replica went in the van, and they simply swapped it on the subway, but man, I can't imagine them being so careless as to send something that valuable with a kid with a bookbag, and two guards (whom you see with ear pieces when they first get on the train sitting with the kid).  Is that how that works? That was the real egg, and the way they were transporting it to the show?  If that's true, wouldn't they have noticed it was a fake when the kid got there and delivered the egg?

It's just a fucking LOUSY plot, unless I'm missing some huge key here. 
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Doggystylin on December 11, 2004, 10:29:45 PM
Just got back from seeing it in graumans chinese theater where it was premiered  ;D

Anyways, I gotta disagree with my nigga again. I enjoyed it. Its not supossed to be an oscar movie you just gotta take it for what it is. The plot did twist a whole lot and I didnt really keep up with it all but it was just a fun ride. Just seeing that many stars in the locations that they were in was just fun itself.

OK now 2 things I didn't understand.

1.WTF was bernie mac's part in this whole thing? what happened with him in the begining and in the end? and what was his whole deal with Rusty Ryan?

2. The thing that Trauma mentioned.


BTW I thought the french guy laser scene was pretty sick, lol

And of course Brad Pitt was my nigga, great job. Oh yeah his fake hair did kinda look funny though, I don't know what they did, wig? extensions or whatever that was, but it looked funny as hell, lol
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Rampant on December 11, 2004, 10:44:54 PM
just got back from seeing it. It wasnt horrible, however no where near as good as the 1st one.

It basically seemed like a comedy.
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Post by: white Boy on December 11, 2004, 10:47:08 PM
ye i was confused at the end...
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Post by: Da WCC Hopar! on December 11, 2004, 10:56:20 PM
i heard its a good movie so i might go see it
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Post by: Woodrow on December 12, 2004, 02:15:55 AM
Shit was OK...

It just seemed like they threw in some of the plot twists just cause they could. It got to be a litte much IMO.
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Post by: *Jamal* on December 12, 2004, 03:45:19 AM
They had the real egg before it was even delivered. There was no reason for them to go and try to steal the replica. LOL.
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Post by: white Boy on December 12, 2004, 04:02:28 AM
^ ye thats the part that confuses me,
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 12, 2004, 01:40:09 PM
They had the real egg before it was even delivered. There was no reason for them to go and try to steal the replica. LOL.

The only problem with that, though, was that it's a gay plot.  I knew them getting arrested was intentional, because Brad Pitt mentioned it about 3 times, he even told Danny Ocean "10:45, we all get arrested"

They wouldn't send a real fabrige egg via subway with only 2 guards.  I know, inconspicuous, but they still wouldn't do it.  If they DID do it, they would watch the bookbag while the fight was going on, it'd be the first type of thing they'd look for.  They also wouldn't know what type of bookbag it was in, and wouldn't have an identical one.  Finally, when the kid got there with the bookbag, which I supposed would have had another replica in it, swapped in by Matt Damon... there's no way the replica would be so perfect as to fool the curators of the egg waiting for it at the museum. 

Just a fucking gay plotline, with holes big enough to drive a truck through. 
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Post by: Don Breezio on December 13, 2004, 02:37:09 AM
the julia roberts thing ruined it for me....it was good up until then.....but about the time they introduced tess as julia roberts it just got bad....that was the really bad part....but wtf was up with that homo french guy dancing around those lasers? that crap made me wanna throw up
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: The Watcher on December 13, 2004, 02:41:21 AM
i thought it was a good movie. i didnt go in expecing anything oscar winning or serious
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Post by: *Jamal* on December 13, 2004, 04:48:57 AM
They had the real egg before it was even delivered. There was no reason for them to go and try to steal the replica. LOL.

Nevermind...I think they did that so Brad Pitt could get Katherine Zeta to leave with him...
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 13, 2004, 05:36:57 AM
Another gay thing was Bernie Mac's character, like mentioned above.  He knew about Catherine Zeta Jones, because when Pitt said Amsterdam, he said Amsterdam?  & Pitt said "Yeah, don't tell Danny" Of course they never ever explained anything about why Bernie Mac was nervous about going there, or why he apparently knew something, that he shouldn't tell Danny.  Maybe it's just sloppy editing, and the explanations are on the cutting room floor. 
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Post by: *Jamal* on December 13, 2004, 05:45:21 AM
If they had closed some of these gaps, and cut the whole Julia Roberts thing out, this movie would've been 10x better.
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Post by: KeithBogans on December 13, 2004, 07:05:42 AM
That whole Julia Roberts thing was stupid.  otherwise it could have been a decnt movie.  That part ruined it for me though.
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Post by: Doggystylin on December 13, 2004, 10:45:18 AM
The nightfox laser scene was probably one of the sickest scenes in the movie. I loved the nightfox character, he was cool, lol.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2004, 12:20:11 PM
The nightfox laser scene was probably one of the sickest scenes in the movie. I loved the nightfox character, he was cool, lol.

Yeah man that scene was crazy. One of the few interesting parts of the movie.
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Post by: LAZY on December 13, 2004, 09:46:23 PM
^^ ya it was... but i agree that Julia Roberts part was dumb as fuck.. i think i hafta see the movie again 1. cuz it was kinda confusing 2. i saw it with my girl so we were fuckin around  ;)
Title: Re: Ocean's Twelve
Post by: Lincoln on December 13, 2004, 10:06:14 PM
I saw it tonight, it was good. Not great, but good.
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Post by: dexter on December 14, 2004, 06:29:52 AM
Yeah it was good.