West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: israelihiphop on January 08, 2005, 05:38:09 AM
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real talk...the production on this album is better than anything since Dre 2001, would like to see more Dre tracks but every producer comes correct...
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No Doubt... it's the best production on any album since "2001". And aside from the Marshal Mathers LP, the Eminem Show, and Stillmatic, it is the best album to be released since "2001".
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No way... The College Dropout wasn't even 2004's best album, but The College Dropout > The Documentary
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Yeah College Dropout was probably better, production wise.. The production on Documentary is top notch, but it sounds too blended for my taste with all those different producers from different places. I would like a more west coast sound to it, or at least have Dre produce 9 tracks like he was supposed to.
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Hell naw...
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imo it's top 10 since 2001
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lol , too many people dickriding this album . It`s far from the best since 2001 , but it`s good . Like lil jay said , it sounds like a mess of different styles . Tha album as a whole sounds messy
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lmao, its far from best
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The documentary will make everything in my room bounce 8), and it's definitly the best since 2001
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lol , too many people dickriding this album . It`s far from the best since 2001 , but it`s good . Like lil jay said , it sounds like a mess of different styles . Tha album as a whole sounds messy
yea, that's iovine.
they tried to make it appeal to pretty much anybody, that's why it has so many different vibes. and I reckon they succeeded, as certain people like tracks I like least and the other way around. women should dig tracks like don't worry, a track I don't even listen to.
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i could name 5, maybe even 10 albums from just last year that were better. lyrically and production wise.
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its a solid album but please dont exaggerate...
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hell no! there were a lot of albums better than documentary in the last few years...
a few suggestions:
- cormega - the realness
- gangstarr - the ownerz
- immortal technique - revolutionary vol. 2
- jay-z - the black album
- jay-z - the blueprint
- nas - stillmatic
- reflection eternal (talib kweli & dj hi-tek) - train of thought
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its a solid album but please dont exaggerate...
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Personal Business >>> Documentary
Duecez N Trayz >> Documentary
but thats just me..
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This shit is tight.
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anybody noticed that there is a Ma$e reference on damn near every track? very good album tho, hopes he recoups with all those high-priced producers.
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i would say the documentary is the best WESTCOAST album since 2001 but if u mix in everything else helll nah
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u gonna have to name sumthin better then
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ive only listened to it once through, but i dont think its all that great.
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maybe you should listen to it several times before posting comments that could be used against you for the rest of your natural life
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I meant production wise, there were better albums like Stillmatic, Blueprint and others but the production on this album is AMAZING...And it definitely is a better album than College Dropout, Kanye West cannot rap, Game is no Ras Kass but he definitely is better than KAnye...
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No way... The College Dropout wasn't even 2004's best album, but The College Dropout > The Documentary
cosign
and yes
KANYE >>>>>>>>>> GAME (on the mic)
dude, at least kanye said SOMETHING on his album, and was original, and dint talk about the same shit
game fuckin said the same thing in every song...
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No way... The College Dropout wasn't even 2004's best album, but The College Dropout > The Documentary
cosign
and yes
KANYE >>>>>>>>>> GAME (on the mic)
dude, at least kanye said SOMETHING on his album, and was original, and dint talk about the same shit
game fuckin said the same thing in every song...
game is a gangsta rapper. snoop rapped about the same shit in 92 and everybody liked him. its the whole flow and delivery not just the lyrics
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kanye is too big headed i like his beats but i wudnt say his album measures up to the game
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game has no skill...
"if he a killa, and you a killa too, how are you an individual"...
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No way... The College Dropout wasn't even 2004's best album, but The College Dropout > The Documentary
cosign
and yes
KANYE >>>>>>>>>> GAME (on the mic)
dude, at least kanye said SOMETHING on his album, and was original, and dint talk about the same shit
game fuckin said the same thing in every song...
game is a gangsta rapper. snoop rapped about the same shit in 92 and everybody liked him. its the whole flow and delivery not just the lyrics
The thing is, The Chronic and Doggystyle brought a new sound to hip hop when they dropped in 92/93......At the time, it was original, but 12 years later it no longer is. Game's album is just another average street album in a huge pile of average street albums released in the past decade.
Chronic and Doggystyle are landmark releases, and in no way should Game's album be compared to them.
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Even if you are just going production wise then:
Jay Z - Blueprint
Little Brother - The Listening
Kweli & Hi-Tek - Train of Thought
Madvillian - Madvilliany
Are all better than this album, and their are probably loads more that I have just forgotten.
From what I've heard of it the album is pretty average really, just your typical G Unit release.
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give it time to sink in before it gets compared with all these other albums.
it has only been out a few days and people saying it better than anything since 2001? ::)
come on peoples, sit on it for a bit, listen to it a few more times then decide.
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This album is good, but yall are getting way carried away here. These albums were better productionwise
1999
Kurupt - Streetz is a Mutha - classic album
2000
Snoop Dogg presents the Eastsidaz
DJ Quik - Balance and Options
Mausberg and Sugafree present the Konnektid Project
Mausberg - Non Fiction
Snoop Dogg - The Last Meal
Reflection Eternal - Train of Thought
Outkast - Stankonia
2001
Scarface - The Fix
Eastsidaz - Deuces and Trays the Old Fashioned Way
2002
DJ Quik - Unda the Influence
2003
Speakerboxx/The Love Below
2004
Kanye West - College Dropout
Hi-C - Hi Life Hustle
Suga Free - The New Testament
The Roots - Tipping Point
I'm sure there are others I left off.
Peeps are getting just a little carried away.
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One of the better albums since 2001, but the best? Fuck nah.
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better albums since 2001....im going with albums released in 02 and so on........strictly westcoast
dj quik-udi
daz-tlil
both of yuk ugas and godzilla AND thug lords
mc 8 vets day
brotha lynch-lbi
roscoe-yrp
40glocc-jakal
wsc-terrorist threats
san quinn-igymw
dilated-neigborhood watch
sheeyt---even federation disapointing album puts this to shame........
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carried away is the best way to describe it
its good, but ease up a little 8)
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i would not call it better than any album since dr dre 2001... Well the album is ok, when i say ok is becouse the beat are amazing but Games lyrics and rhymes are not that good... Well in my opinion it a bit like lloyd banks album and there is no new things in.. But ass far i like runnin thats a dobe track and 15. Where I'm From (Feat. Nate Dogg) .... But still i will boy the album to support the west
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I thinkn alot of people here just thin it's cool to hate something like a Game album. Beleive me, the West Coast has not seen anything like this album in years. His album hasn't dropped yet and everyone already heard it. That's anticipation. that's successful. Even the haters downloaded the album. How much more attention are you gonna give him before it is cool to like him?
The Game is gonna blow whether you like it or not. You guys need to sit back, smoke a phat one and enjoy the light the West coast hasn;t seen since 2001.
Really, who has been this big since 2001? Since 1993? And who has lived up to that hype?
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kanye is too big headed i like his beats but i wudnt say his album measures up to the game
LMFAO!!!! come on man...
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game jst mentions dead people he sucks this album was a disapointment im not even gonna buy it...
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THIS CD DOEST HAVE GREAT PRODUCTION...
TOO BAD ITS NOT DRE"S!
DRE HAD TO HAVE OTHERES COME IN AND HELP HIM ON THE TRACS HE PRODUCED...2 PRODUCERS ONE SONG??
RETARDED..
AND AGAIN,ON THE BACK IT GONNA SAY PRODUCED BY DRE...LOL YA OK...JUST LIKE BACK IN THE DEATHROW DAYS..IT SAYS DRE BCUZ OF THE NAME..HE TAKING OTHER PEOPLE CREDIT..OR PAYING'EM OFF HOW EVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT..BUT ITS NOT ALL DRE PRODUCTION...
iF YOU BELIEVE IT IS IM SORRY TO INFORM YOU YOUR WRONG..
DRE IS JUST A FRANCHISE..HE HAS A TEAM OF BEAT MAKERS...HES JUST THE OVER SEER..like..
"YA THAT SOUNDS GOOD, BUT LETS DO IT LIKE THIS.."
WITCH I KOOl, BUT HE AINT MAKIN ALL THE BEATS LIKE EVErY ONE THINKS..
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I thinkn alot of people here just thin it's cool to hate something like a Game album. Beleive me, the West Coast has not seen anything like this album in years. His album hasn't dropped yet and everyone already heard it. That's anticipation. that's successful. Even the haters downloaded the album. How much more attention are you gonna give him before it is cool to like him?
The Game is gonna blow whether you like it or not. You guys need to sit back, smoke a phat one and enjoy the light the West coast hasn;t seen since 2001.
Really, who has been this big since 2001? Since 1993? And who has lived up to that hype?
exactly.
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yo its pretty stipid sayin game has no skill, every joint he done with dre and the one he done with kanye he rode the beat beat dope and came strong, its pretty stupid when someone comes in here like whiteboy and writes up a bad lyric of his like that makes it mean he got no skills........eminem "pears, oranges,plums," or some shit like that, was a wack line to but does em have no skill.........thats a pretty stupid to me........everyone raps different.....but from what ive heard to say game has no skill is dumb, cuz he held his own on every track so far and from what im haering he also came sick next to eminem...and dre wont sign you up if their isnt something dope about you.......whether y'all like game, he got skills no doubt......and dont get me wrong, i aint sayin his amazing, but his dope and has potential to get better, but he def aint wack or has no skills.....people always tryna bring a brother down
same old stupid shit gon happen again, like when 50 dropped grodt.....some dumb mtuahfcukaz who never left the crib start jumpin on claimin only white rich teens be checkin it when pretty much every hood, bitches, kids and everyone checked the joint
pz
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GAME DEFINALTY GOT SKILLZ..but i have to say i think he just the hype right now..
c'mon..anyone that been shot and produced by dre is goin to be anticipated..or downloaded..
im not hating on game, i like dude..but ima tell you straight..the relatives deserve his spot as much as he does..shit i can name a few people..I mean out here theres alot of cats with fuckin skillz but dont get the chance becuz they dont know nobody or what not...Game was not a gangbanger his family was..he got thugd out after the fact..he got shot up on some dope dealing, NOT GANG BANGIN..he had money..it wasnt hard for him to get at some one in the industry when ur chipped up...and know some people..anyway he aint bring nothin back that wasnt brought befor..or already here for that matter..that comment just gets on my nerves"no disrespect intened"..anybody new that comes out is automaticly bringing somthing back or compared to pac..
Hes antoher dope emcee!!why cant we just enjoy his music with out all the politics.
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Hes antoher dope emcee!!why cant we just enjoy his music with out all the politics.
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its sadly not cool to hate on game...facts are facts he has NO lyrical skill, he will bring attention to the west, but it will be negative.....clown dont even write his own shit
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its sadly not cool to hate on game...facts are facts he has NO lyrical skill, he will bring attention to the west, but it will be negative.....clown dont even write his own shit
i dont htink ur really listening to the lyrics. no, game is not ras kass. he does have some sick punches throughout the entire album. no lyrical skill? get real
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respect your opinion but hes gonna have to get his bars up to convince me
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the album is dope. there are releases that have come out, but this album has Dre backin it which means the west has the chance to get the spotlight again for the first time in a LONG time. if people want the west to even jump on the comeback trail, they need to get behind this album
just my .02
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People hate on Game's Lyrics way too much here.
Yes, he often raps about Sneakers, he boasts legends all the time and he says noone should run up his black 745. We got that already.
Still, if you arent the type of listener who wants a rapper to spit a random dictionary word every 5 seconds, Game's Lyrics arent THAT bad.
Just a couple of my favorite Game Lyrics from the Documentary LP:
Lord forgive me for my sins I know it's last minute/
Put the Chronic in the air, a little Hash in it/
Spread my wings if only I could fly/
Why fighting to live when we are living to die.
I got shot over 2 pounds of weed/
still aint found them niggas/
but Karma come quicker for a nigger on the other side of the gun/
that's something I gotta teach my son/
the media is bullshit now we can't even say bitch/
they accusin micheal of touchin kids in the wrong places/
at first they embraced him, had a couple of face lifts/
now people wanna place him with murderers and rapists/
don't think those are bad lyrics, people need to calm the fuck down. like if most albums were on the lyrical level of ras, technique or em.
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I think its a great album, Game imo exceeded expectation, but lets not forget, the producers and support hes getting is probably among the most powerful in rap, anyone with support like that should/would blow.
I can only imagine what would have been if rappers like Masta Ace has this sort of support.
Dunno...im more of an Ace fan maybe..
Stuff like Long Hot Summer was awesome.
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Tech N9ne is good
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Hell naw...
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I thinkn alot of people here just thin it's cool to hate something like a Game album. Beleive me, the West Coast has not seen anything like this album in years. His album hasn't dropped yet and everyone already heard it. That's anticipation. that's successful. Even the haters downloaded the album. How much more attention are you gonna give him before it is cool to like him?
The Game is gonna blow whether you like it or not. You guys need to sit back, smoke a phat one and enjoy the light the West coast hasn;t seen since 2001.
Really, who has been this big since 2001? Since 1993? And who has lived up to that hype?
he's geting ateention due to his affialiation to g unit, not his lyrics....
am i the only one that noticed the trend??
50 cent- "Most anticipated rapper since...."
lloyd banks- "Most anticipated rapper since....."
game- "Most anticipated rapper since....."
my homeboy told me today, "i like game, i thought he was gonna be a one hit wonder, but he's fuckin nice.... he raps like hes from the east coast" that summed it up for me....
i hope game isnt the one that "brings the west back", besides, i dont think hes as good as he thinks he is... he talks a lot of shit, but can he lyrically back it up? i dont think so.. but thats just me
i dont think he's "west" enough to really bring the west coast back, and im gonna be pissed off if i go to stores soon, and all these bandwagon riders buy up all my real west coast cause of game..
billlboard, i think he might have had something, but he didnt have enough shit recorded for me to really judge(i think)
if you like pop music, then i guess this is the best album since 2001, but imo, for real west coast, it's good, but not up there yet
i think theres a vibe west coast rappers get when they're in the studio with other west coast rappers, and it's clearly not there in games shit
i'll shut the fuck up now, but i still got plenty more to say on this subject, and i think its kinda fucked up that game is false representing the west coast in alot of his shit... he even claims to have a yonkers flow, i dont need to say shit about that
i liked wc's shit better than games album
boo yaa's shit was better
westside connection's shit was better
eiht's shit was better
quik's shit was better
yuk/c-bo's shit was better
i think mack 10 and da hood's shit was better
think about your 5 favorite west coast albums
IS GAME REALLY WEST COAST?????
but like i said, im gonna support, and go out and buy his shit, but only cause dre's getting paid for it.... ;D
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i dont think he is the gretest ever or anything but i really think everyone should be behind this guy.....this is the one chance we got to back a west coast artist that acctually has the chance of blowing up and bringing some of the spotlight to the west.....if you havent seen the commerical on tv now check it the first thing it says is "THE WEST IS BACK" they even promoting it to be a west coast album......i say everyone stop hating and just support this shit and if dre behind it i dont think you can go too wrong....thats just my opinion we all need to back this shit....cause i really doubt we going to see a buzz like this for another west coast artist in a very long while.....and to the people hating on his "YONKERS" flow....oh well thats how he raps dont mean he aint from the west.....he damn welll states it loud and clear on almost every track that he from the west!.....keeps the subject matter west coast and all.....anyways lets back this shit.....peace