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Title: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: UWA 187 on January 12, 2005, 10:37:08 PM
Just wondering who wrote what verses for Dre? Someone made a thread the other day about Kurupt doing "Chin Check", and Snoop says in Welcome To Death Row DVD that he done "Nuthin' But A G Thang". Anyone know any others?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on January 12, 2005, 10:54:38 PM
its mostly kept on the hush

but there are a couple of known ones. jay-z wrote still dre supposedly and royce supposedly wrote The Message. thats pretty crazy considering that track was a dedication track to dres brother
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 12, 2005, 10:56:42 PM
jayz wrote Still D.R.E.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 12, 2005, 10:56:57 PM
Bad Azz wrote Just Dippin'
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Suga Foot on January 12, 2005, 10:58:03 PM
Just read the credits, Dre doesn't have ghost writers.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 12, 2005, 11:01:59 PM
Quote from: Suga Foot on January 12, 2005, 10:58:03 PM
Just read the credits, Dre doesn't have ghost writers.

lol
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on January 12, 2005, 11:09:06 PM
Quote from: Nima on January 12, 2005, 10:56:42 PM
jayz wrote Still D.R.E.

shit, switched them around

yea jay wrote still dre, not watcher
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 12, 2005, 11:26:34 PM
Snoop wrote "Deep Cover" and "Nuthin But a G Thang"

I think I remember hearin DOC wrote Dre's verse on "Dre Day"
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 13, 2005, 12:18:35 AM
eminem probably wrote forgot about dre or somethin... i wonder who wrote whats the difference... and keep their heads ringin.. sam sneed maybe?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: The Watcher on January 13, 2005, 12:24:21 AM
em wrote most of the shit he's done with Dre.. there was a thread about this topic a while back i think
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: UWA 187 on January 13, 2005, 01:00:04 AM
Quote from: The Watcher on January 13, 2005, 12:24:21 AM
em wrote most of the shit he's done with Dre.. there was a thread about this topic a while back i think

Anyone got a link?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: mauzip on January 13, 2005, 01:05:06 AM
Mauzip wrote Big Ego's.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on January 13, 2005, 01:10:59 AM
How do u know Jayz wrote still DRE?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 13, 2005, 01:17:44 AM
Quote from: ::Mr. Hahn:: on January 13, 2005, 01:10:59 AM
How do u know Jayz wrote still DRE?

doesn't it say so in the credits? and i remember it was talked about on radio or tv around the time the alibum dropped.. on some 'dre reaches out to jayz type shit and i guess dre gave him the watcher beat in return or some shit i remember there was an article on this
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: SlickPants on January 13, 2005, 01:19:49 AM
Em wrote "The Watcher" and "Forgot about Dre" (said it was his idea), and I think he wrote dre's shit for his J.D. diss on one of his albums or whatever.  And yeah, Royce wrote "The Message" for Dre, there's a song really similar to it on one of his albums.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Don Seer on January 13, 2005, 01:23:58 AM
between them DOC and Snoop wrote virtually all the chronic..

DOC wrote a lot of the second NWA album..
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Sir Petey on January 13, 2005, 03:51:50 AM
I remember reading in snoops autobiography that he wrote some shit on efil4zaggin....

by the way ever notice that warren g makes a cameo appearance on the skit where dude gets thrown in jail on that record?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Traumatized on January 13, 2005, 04:50:49 AM
Knoc-Turn'al wrote Put It On Me.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on January 13, 2005, 04:54:00 AM
Didnt Pac like to diss people for having ghost writerS?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Leggy Hendrix on January 13, 2005, 05:51:29 AM
Eminem is credited for The Watcher & Lets Get High, and Jay-Z is credited for Still Dre...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 09:12:52 AM
He's had quite a few ghostwriters that've either written all his lines on a track or co-wrote it or whatever, here's what I can put together from looking at various credits:

Knoc-Turn'al wrote The Wash, Bad Intentions, Put It On Me & Your Wife ( Dre's rhymes only )

Eminem wrote The Watcher, Forgot About Dre, Let's Get High, Bang Bang, Bitch Please II, Guilty Conscience,
Bad Guys Always Die, Say What You Say, Shit Hits The Fan & Encore

Off "2001", Dre's verses for Big Ego's and What's The Difference were written by some dude named Punch, who I read in an interview also goes by the name "Yykkes" ( from L.A. Confidential )...The D.O.C. wrote Dre's lines in "Housewife" and he wrote something for Big Ego's too, since he's also credited for that

Hittman wrote Dre's parts in Light Speed, Fuck You, The Next Episode & Bitch Niggaz

Just Dippin by Bad Azz, Hittman & Kurupt ( Bad Azz wrote for Snoop, Hittman wrote for Dre, not too sure what Kurupt did )

Chin Check - Kurupt

Hello - Eminem

The Watcher II - Rakim

Xzibit's "U Know" off Restless, I think Xzibit wrote all verses, including Dre's

Symphony In X Major - Dre's lines written by Knoc-Turn'al, though he's uncredited

that's all the recent stuff, going back to "2001" period

Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: DPG4Life on January 13, 2005, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: Nima on January 13, 2005, 01:17:44 AM
Quote from: ::Mr. Hahn:: on January 13, 2005, 01:10:59 AM
How do u know Jayz wrote still DRE?

doesn't it say so in the credits? and i remember it was talked about on radio or tv around the time the alibum dropped.. on some 'dre reaches out to jayz type shit and i guess dre gave him the watcher beat in return or some shit i remember there was an article on this

i saw a Dre interview in german MTV, and dre was asked whether its true or not that jayz wrote the lyrics to still DRE
dre said something similar like this:'yea, its true. its no shame to get ones lyrics by one of the greatest lyricist (not sure about that word though ;D) right now.
i got great respect for jay-z, thats why i let him write it'

well, thats not a quote, but its very close to it - and i can remember very well the interview, and no - i wasnt on drugs ;D
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 13, 2005, 09:48:52 AM
Quote from: bigg vegaz on January 13, 2005, 03:51:50 AM
I remember reading in snoops autobiography that he wrote some shit on efil4zaggin....

by the way ever notice that warren g makes a cameo appearance on the skit where dude gets thrown in jail on that record?

snoop wasnt around Dre back then
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Minkaveli on January 13, 2005, 09:58:27 AM
I believe this but this is just pathetic to have someone else write every song you ever did.  I know Dre is a pioneer and knows talent and beats but other than that, he is just an image.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 10:11:30 AM
Well I mean, at no point did Dre ever come out and say that he was an 'artist'. From day one, his initial title has been 'producer', hence the fact that we've only had 2 solo albums from him. For Dre to match the dopeness of his production, I guess he feels he has to make sure that the rhymes live up to the beats, so he enlists trustworthy writers to hook him up. I can see why many cats would dog on him for not writing shit himself, but it's not like he's a real 'rapper'. It's like how Eminem is a rapper who produces, Dr. Dre is a producer who raps. Detox 2005 8)
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Minkaveli on January 13, 2005, 10:15:09 AM
At least try and lay down some rhymes.  I write and writing is so easy.  Almost anyone can do it.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 10:22:33 AM
Good point, anyone can write, like you said, though not everyone can really drop something hella nice. I know he wrote his own shit on several tracks from Efil4zaggin, it'd be nice to hear some original shit from Dre, now with Detox, he's got the chance to do it. Who knows, he might surprise us...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Meho on January 13, 2005, 11:03:10 AM
Quote from: Minkaveli on January 13, 2005, 10:15:09 AM
At least try and lay down some rhymes.  I write and writing is so easy.  Almost anyone can do it.

id rather have dre droping dope verses on his superb beats then artist that dont know how to rap but insist on writing theyre own rhymes even though they dont know shit.lil jon,nelly,chingy,lil jon,camron....

if this aint the truth then hopefully its not a lie wtf  ???
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: SlickPants on January 13, 2005, 11:55:18 AM
Also, notice how shit that people write for dre is often hotter than their own shit?  I read or saw someplace once that how it works is Dre throws "concepts" at writers with an idea of the structure of songs and shit, and his ghost writers do the actual word placement and syllibolic placement and shit like that.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: CTROCK on January 13, 2005, 12:32:32 PM
Dre, is a bad ass producer no question about his skill's !! but listen to his music I'm sure he got alot of help from other musician and producer to help him ! which is notthing wrong with that ! we all need some kind of HELP sometime ! but Dre ROCK !! I think he is the best producer !   
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on January 13, 2005, 01:06:35 PM
Quote from: bigg vegaz on January 13, 2005, 03:51:50 AM
by the way ever notice that warren g makes a cameo appearance on the skit where dude gets thrown in jail on that record?

Hell naw......I never realized that!  Nice discovery!
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on January 13, 2005, 02:57:16 PM
In the Next Friday booklet it only lists O.Jackson as a writer on the song......or did I read wrong ???
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Suga Foot on January 13, 2005, 03:02:41 PM
1 more time for the people in the back....

Dre Doesn't Use Ghostwriters


He openly says that other people write his verses.  They even sometimes get publishing on the songs too.  How is that Ghostwriting?  That's just writing.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on January 13, 2005, 04:08:59 PM
Rakim didnt write Dre's verse on Watcher 2...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 13, 2005, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 10:11:30 AM
Well I mean, at no point did Dre ever come out and say that he was an 'artist'. From day one, his initial title has been 'producer', hence the fact that we've only had 2 solo albums from him. For Dre to match the dopeness of his production, I guess he feels he has to make sure that the rhymes live up to the beats, so he enlists trustworthy writers to hook him up. I can see why many cats would dog on him for not writing shit himself, but it's not like he's a real 'rapper'. It's like how Eminem is a rapper who produces, Dr. Dre is a producer who raps. Detox 2005 8)

like I said - people find all kind of excuses for that camp
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 06:19:19 PM
I wouldn't say its an excuse, it's just whatever's been stated in interviews or magazines & shit.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: soopa-man on January 13, 2005, 07:29:47 PM
Royce Da 5'9 Also Wrote That Unrelesed Track "Xxxsplosive Part 2" Thats Why He Sings The Hook...Dre Does Help With The Writing Process, He Said In Blaze Magazine (the one with him and snoop on the cover) That When Jay-Z Wrote "Still D.R.E." He Wrote About Bentleys And Jewelry And Shyt And Dre Told Him People In L.A. Dont Give A Fuck About That Shyt, And Told Him To Rhyme About Shyt Dre Would Say... Jay-Z Came Back In 20 Minutes With A Hole New Song And Even Added A Part About Still Hitting Corners In Lo Lo's (That Was Dre's Quote)...That Shyt Is True Too Still Got The Magazine...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: soopa-man on January 13, 2005, 07:33:29 PM
Ice Cube Wrote "Natural Born Killaz" The Whole Thing (Ice Cube Actually Wrote All Of Eazy's Shyt On "Eazy Duz It" And All Of Eazy And Dre's Shyt On "Straight Outta Compton" D.O.C Started Helping More Later With Efil4ziggan, When Cube Left)...RBX and Snoop Wrote "LEt ME Ride"...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Hittman2001 on January 13, 2005, 09:32:08 PM
Quote from: California on January 13, 2005, 04:08:59 PM
Rakim didnt write Dre's verse on Watcher 2...

yeah, it was probably hittman, he was originally on the track, he was writing most of dre's rhymes at the time
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Murrow on January 13, 2005, 10:27:59 PM
There is a thread I made over in the Credits section on who did what on Dr. Dre 2001.  I looked up the credits and found out who wrote what for Dre.  Go check it out.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Don Seer on January 14, 2005, 01:53:03 AM
Quote from: SlickPants on January 13, 2005, 11:55:18 AM
Also, notice how shit that people write for dre is often hotter than their own shit?  I read or saw someplace once that how it works is Dre throws "concepts" at writers with an idea of the structure of songs and shit, and his ghost writers do the actual word placement and syllibolic placement and shit like that.

Quote from: soopa-man on January 13, 2005, 07:29:47 PM
Royce Da 5'9 Also Wrote That Unrelesed Track "Xxxsplosive Part 2" Thats Why He Sings The Hook...Dre Does Help With The Writing Process, He Said In Blaze Magazine (the one with him and snoop on the cover) That When Jay-Z Wrote "Still D.R.E." He Wrote About Bentleys And Jewelry And Shyt And Dre Told Him People In L.A. Dont Give A Fuck About That Shyt, And Told Him To Rhyme About Shyt Dre Would Say... Jay-Z Came Back In 20 Minutes With A Hole New Song And Even Added A Part About Still Hitting Corners In Lo Lo's (That Was Dre's Quote)...That Shyt Is True Too Still Got The Magazine...

exactly.. people make it sound mindless...

dre is a producer.. he "produces" the final product.. that doesnt mean he plays or writes -anything on the song- but he is the overseeing guiding hand in the process.. "tweak this" "scrap that" etc etc and his golden ear is trusted by many.





Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Machiavelli on January 14, 2005, 05:18:18 AM
Bout Dre and ghost producing? or stealing beats and shit?


On the Games album he didnt produce a single song for him slef. He always has a CO producer.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on January 14, 2005, 06:42:22 AM
yeah mayb he is tutoring new students to carry on his legacy, scott storch is a legendary producer he has perfected dre's style, mike Eliz- sorry cant spell his name lol!!!! Is becomin a great producer he did that track wit macy gray on 8 mile, mel man nuff said! Mark Batson (agen mite of fucked up his name) new talent dre is moldin in his image, warren G even had production lessons from dre.

In Conclusion i think dre is makin new beat makers in the business so havin them work wit him on songs he can advise them and show them the way to produce.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 14, 2005, 06:58:42 AM
I figured that Rakim wrote Dre's verse on "Watcher II" based on this evidence. First, the lyrics and flow sound completely Rakim-like, listening to it, it's really hard to imagine Hittman or someone else writing it, aside from maybe Eminem. And no other rappers are credited in the writing credits for the track. A couple of years back, that Mellowman dude was talking about it on this board, and he denied rumors that Jay-Z wrote Dre's verse, revealing that someone else on the same track actually wrote it. Unless Truth Hurts is a fuckin dope writer, I'd say it was Rakim, hands down.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: black nutt on January 14, 2005, 09:26:18 AM
Dre who is he
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: UWA 187 on January 14, 2005, 09:46:56 AM
Quote from: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 10:11:30 AM
Well I mean, at no point did Dre ever come out and say that he was an 'artist'. From day one, his initial title has been 'producer', hence the fact that we've only had 2 solo albums from him. For Dre to match the dopeness of his production, I guess he feels he has to make sure that the rhymes live up to the beats, so he enlists trustworthy writers to hook him up. I can see why many cats would dog on him for not writing shit himself, but it's not like he's a real 'rapper'. It's like how Eminem is a rapper who produces, Dr. Dre is a producer who raps. Detox 2005 8)

Great, well thought out reply.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 14, 2005, 01:28:05 PM
thanks
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: LakersAlldaWay on January 15, 2005, 02:13:27 AM
1. LoLo (Intro)
Performed by Xzibit and Tray Dee

2. The Watcher
Written By Eminem
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon
Trumpet: Dr. Dre
Percussion: Taku Hirano
Chorus: Eminem & Knoc-Turn'al

3. Fuck You (featuring Devin The Dude & Snoop Dogg)
Written By Hittman, Devin The Dude & Snoop Dogg
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Percussion: Taku Hirano

4. Still D.R.E. (featuring Snoop Dogg)
Written By Jay-Z
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon

5. Big Egos (featuring Hittman)
Written By The D.O.C. & Hittman
Keyboards: Scott Storch

6. Xxplosive
Performed by Hittman, Kurupt, Six-Two & Nate Dogg
Written By Hittman, Kurupt, Six-Two & Nate Dogg
Bass: Colin Wolfe
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Percussion: Taku Hirano

Samples Isaac Hayes' "Bumpy's Lament".

7. What?s The Difference (featuring Xzibit & Eminem)
Written By Eminem & Xzibit
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Chorus: Phish

8. Bar One (skit)
Performed By Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin

9. Light Speed (featuring Hittman)
Written By Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Chorus: Ms. Roq & Knoc-Turn'al

10. Forgot About Dre (featuring Eminem)
Written By Eminem
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

Sampled No Doubt's "The Climb"


11. The Next Episode (featuring Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)
Written By Hittman & Snoop Dogg
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Bass: Preston Crumo
Additional Vocals: Kurupt

Contains replayed elements of David McAllum's "The Edge".

12. Lets Get High (featuring Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq)
Written By Eminem, Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Additional Vocals: Mel-Man & Scruncho

Sampled Fatback's "Backstrokin"

13. Bitch *****z (featuring Hittman, Snoop Dogg & Six-Two)
Written By Hittman, Snoop Dogg & Six-Two
Bass: Mel-Man
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Scratches: DJ Pen
Percussion: Taku Hirano

14. The Car Bomb (skit)
Performed By Mel-Man & Charis Henry

15. Murder Ink
Performed by Hittman & Ms. Roq
Written By Hittman & Ms. Roq
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon
Background Vocals: Traci Nelson

Sampled the "Halloween" Theme

16. Ed-Ucation (skit)
Performed By Eddie Griffin

17. Some L.A. *****z
Performed by Defari, Xzibit, Knoc-Turn'al, Timb Bomb, King Tee, Hittman & Kokane
Written By Defari, Xzibit, Knoc-Turn'al, Timb Bomb, King Tee & Hittman
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Additional Vocals: MC Ren

18. Pause 4 Porno (skit)
Performed By Jake Steed

19. Housewife (featuring Kurupt & Hittman)
Written By The D.O.C., Kurupt & Hittman
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

20. Ackrite
Performed by Hittman
Written By Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

21. Bang Bang (featuring Knoc-Turn'al & Hittman)
Written By Eminem, Knoc-Turn'al & Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Carl Breeding
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Background Vocals: T.Y. Nichols

22. The Message (featuring Mary J. Blige & Rell)
Written By Royce Da 5-9
Produced By Lord Finesse
Keyboards: Lord Finesse & Camara Kambon
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Elevz on January 15, 2005, 07:16:24 AM
Quote from: Larrabee on January 13, 2005, 10:11:30 AM
Well I mean, at no point did Dre ever come out and say that he was an 'artist'. From day one, his initial title has been 'producer', hence the fact that we've only had 2 solo albums from him.

I wouldn't even call these solo-albums... It's more like Nate Dogg has "Nate Dogg & Friends" and Dre has "The Chronic & 2001". There sure is a difference in quality of those albums though  ;)

But about your point... I don't mind Dre having others to actually rhyme the writes for him. It's been proven, Dre's songs are amazing - often better than the writers/rhymers would write for themselves. Since Dre even makes up the concept for the tracks, you can't complain about his true feelings for the songs either, it's just that he's not good at rhyming so he's getting assistance on that. Be grateful for Dre for admitting that - otherwise he would have had amazing beats, good concepts for songs but wack rhymes. Would be a damn waste.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Larrabee on January 15, 2005, 08:54:57 AM
^^yup
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on January 16, 2005, 11:18:18 PM
i didn't know Em wrote Watcher that was my favorite track off 2001
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on January 17, 2005, 12:34:18 AM
actually Dr. Dre is just a name. he got ghost writers & ghost producers. that song "Light Speed" on 2001 was produced by Fred Wreck and written by Hittman. if you check out the credits - he dont even play an instrument.

so - Dr. Dre is really just a good mixer (if even that)
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Machiavelli on January 17, 2005, 05:08:38 AM
Quote from: Baby G on January 17, 2005, 12:34:18 AM
actually Dr. Dre is just a name. he got ghost writers & ghost producers. that song "Light Speed" on 2001 was produced by Fred Wreck and written by Hittman. if you check out the credits - he dont even play an instrument.

so - Dr. Dre is really just a good mixer (if even that)

Yeah, Dre just does Drum Programing and Mixing with the help of someone else(in 2001 it was Mel-Man). He doesnt play keyboards or any other instruments.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Mygla on January 17, 2005, 07:58:09 AM
Quote from: soopa-man on January 13, 2005, 07:33:29 PM
Ice Cube Wrote "Natural Born Killaz" The Whole Thing (Ice Cube Actually Wrote All Of Eazy's Shyt On "Eazy Duz It" And All Of Eazy And Dre's Shyt On "Straight Outta Compton" D.O.C Started Helping More Later With Efil4ziggan, When Cube Left)...RBX and Snoop Wrote "LEt ME Ride"...

Sneed wrote that Natural Born Killaz, it was originally his track.. at least he claims so in Have Gun, Will Travel.. And I always thought Ren wrote most for Dre, and Cube for Eazy in the early NWA days?
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Murrow on January 17, 2005, 11:42:47 PM
You guys are meaning the true meaning of the word, producer.  Quincey Jones didn't get creds by just sending a hot bear over to someone.  He did it with guidance, vision and a drive to make an artist the best they can be.  That is what Dre does, he gets the best out of everyone, he knows how he wants the music and he will make the best come out like a real producer does.
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 05, 2005, 08:36:29 AM
Quote from: str8westcoast on January 18, 2005, 04:42:46 AM
the whole point is everytime a dre name is on the song the beat is banging

"Just loose it" was bangin?


Thats an ignorant statement.




Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: i B 2 QUIK 2 c on February 05, 2005, 09:09:37 AM
If you wanna know who wrote what for Dre, listen to his flow on the song... more likely than not, he imitates the flow of whoever wrote the song for him... i remember reading that Dre would have some artists record his verses so he could get a proper flow... The obvious examples are the songs written by Knoc and listen to his verse on "Ghetto Fabulous," that was obviously written by Razzy Kazzy... peace
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Okka on February 05, 2005, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: California on January 15, 2005, 02:13:27 AM
1. LoLo (Intro)
Performed by Xzibit and Tray Dee

2. The Watcher
Written By Eminem
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon
Trumpet: Dr. Dre
Percussion: Taku Hirano
Chorus: Eminem & Knoc-Turn'al

3. Fuck You (featuring Devin The Dude & Snoop Dogg)
Written By Hittman, Devin The Dude & Snoop Dogg
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Percussion: Taku Hirano

4. Still D.R.E. (featuring Snoop Dogg)
Written By Jay-Z
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon

5. Big Egos (featuring Hittman)
Written By The D.O.C. & Hittman
Keyboards: Scott Storch

6. Xxplosive
Performed by Hittman, Kurupt, Six-Two & Nate Dogg
Written By Hittman, Kurupt, Six-Two & Nate Dogg
Bass: Colin Wolfe
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Percussion: Taku Hirano

Samples Isaac Hayes' "Bumpy's Lament".

7. What?s The Difference (featuring Xzibit & Eminem)
Written By Eminem & Xzibit
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Chorus: Phish

8. Bar One (skit)
Performed By Traci Nelson, Ms. Roq & Eddie Griffin

9. Light Speed (featuring Hittman)
Written By Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Chorus: Ms. Roq & Knoc-Turn'al

10. Forgot About Dre (featuring Eminem)
Written By Eminem
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

Sampled No Doubt's "The Climb"


11. The Next Episode (featuring Snoop Dogg & Nate Dogg)
Written By Hittman & Snoop Dogg
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Bass: Preston Crumo
Additional Vocals: Kurupt

Contains replayed elements of David McAllum's "The Edge".

12. Lets Get High (featuring Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq)
Written By Eminem, Hittman, Kurupt & Ms. Roq
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Additional Vocals: Mel-Man & Scruncho

Sampled Fatback's "Backstrokin"

13. Bitch *****z (featuring Hittman, Snoop Dogg & Six-Two)
Written By Hittman, Snoop Dogg & Six-Two
Bass: Mel-Man
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Scott Storch
Scratches: DJ Pen
Percussion: Taku Hirano

14. The Car Bomb (skit)
Performed By Mel-Man & Charis Henry

15. Murder Ink
Performed by Hittman & Ms. Roq
Written By Hittman & Ms. Roq
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Keyboards: Scott Storch & Camara Kambon
Background Vocals: Traci Nelson

Sampled the "Halloween" Theme

16. Ed-Ucation (skit)
Performed By Eddie Griffin

17. Some L.A. *****z
Performed by Defari, Xzibit, Knoc-Turn'al, Timb Bomb, King Tee, Hittman & Kokane
Written By Defari, Xzibit, Knoc-Turn'al, Timb Bomb, King Tee & Hittman
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon
Additional Vocals: MC Ren

18. Pause 4 Porno (skit)
Performed By Jake Steed

19. Housewife (featuring Kurupt & Hittman)
Written By The D.O.C., Kurupt & Hittman
Bass: Mike Elizondo
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

20. Ackrite
Performed by Hittman
Written By Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon

21. Bang Bang (featuring Knoc-Turn'al & Hittman)
Written By Eminem, Knoc-Turn'al & Hittman
Keyboards: Camara Kambon & Carl Breeding
Guitar: Sean Cruse
Background Vocals: T.Y. Nichols

22. The Message (featuring Mary J. Blige & Rell)
Written By Royce Da 5-9
Produced By Lord Finesse
Keyboards: Lord Finesse & Camara Kambon


Where did y'all get this from ? This ain't from the booklet of "2001"...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on February 06, 2005, 05:51:37 AM
it is in there u jus gotta study the booklet!
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: Okka on February 06, 2005, 08:47:48 AM
Quote from: dannyg213 on February 06, 2005, 05:51:37 AM
it is in there u jus gotta study the booklet!

But in the booklet, it says that Dre have written some songs...
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: No Compute on February 06, 2005, 09:52:38 AM
Quote
ThaFormula.com - So now comes your album. What I want to know is how was it recording "No One Can Do It Better" because that was the only album that I can remember where Dre produced it all by himself, without the help of any other co-producer or whatever. It was just you and Dre. This is the album I always tell people to explain to me when they say Dre can't produce by himself or that he jacks everybody's beats. There was no one to jack for your album right?

D.O.C. - Well, let me explain something to you and you can print this so your people will understand. I went through this shit with Daz and now they're going through this shit with Mel-Man. Let me tell you something. What Dr. Dre gives those young men, they can't give you enough money for, what that guy gives these young producers that are trying to come up. The only reason Dre even has anybody else in there fucking with him is because he's lazy. That's the only reason. When Dre is in the studio, that shit is coming out of his mind and none of these other guys are responsible for it and I was there from day 1, 'till fuckin' '94 or '95 when I had to leave. Then I came back because doing records with Dre is like going to school, because if you sit and you watch, and you look and you learn, the guy is teaching you how to make great records. Now with this new record I made, I'm only doing what Dre would have did, and I used my own judgment. The one thing that Dr. Dre is missing now is D.O.C. and that's the same way that I would tell those young guys, hey that sucks! I would tell Dre's big ass the same shit. Hey, I love you, and your the greatest of all time, but that's bullshit!

BTW producing isn't just about playing instruments and making beats. Rock bands have producers - Do you think they play all the instruments??
Title: Re: Who wrote what for Dre?
Post by: DATTAZ on February 06, 2005, 10:42:11 AM
Look at all the old stuff like Jimmy Z and Michel'le and the Skinny Boyz these are all albums produce by.Dre he plays Keyboards and drums,there was an old interview in Keyboards where they were showing his studio,he has one of the best drum sets in the music business as well as keyboards there was another interview a while back and it shows him playing both drums and piano which hes not the best but it does sound good.theres also interviews with some of the people he works with like Tommy Coster Jr. and Camara Kambon I read somewhere when they both were ask how does Dre produce does he even play insrtuments they both said yes he does,Dre play like a ruff draft(like missing notes and stuff like that) keyboards of course, and they go right behind him to make what he just did better with him (Dre) telling them thats the wrong sound or the wrong notes.Most of the good interviews are in stuff like Keyboards and Studio mags which to me is a little better because they go behind the music and talk to all his staff even his old staff.I think I read interviews of all his musician and his project coordinators like the Chatman brothers.