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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Timmeeeehh on January 15, 2005, 08:32:27 AM
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I saw this on the aftermathmusic.com forum.. interesting
January 15, 2005 -- LOS ANGELES — The man who touched off a wild brawl at the Vibe Music Awards last year told cops that rap icon Marion "Suge" Knight paid him to sucker-punch Dr. Dre in a bid to embarrass the famous producer, sources told The Post yesterday.
Jimmy James Johnson, a 26-year-old parolee who is facing a life sentence because he's a possible three-strike offender, has told Santa Monica, Calif., police that Knight gave him $5,000 and agreed to forgive a brother's financial debt in exchange for the punch.
Shortly after hitting Dr. Dre, Johnson himself was stabbed — allegedly by David Darnell Brown, an up-and-coming rap artist known as Young Buck. Brown, 23, pleaded not guilty yesterday in L.A. County Superior Court to assault with a deadly weapon.
http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/38578.htm
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The man who touched off a wild brawl at the Vibe Music Awards last year told cops that rap icon Marion "Suge" Knight paid him to sucker-punch Dr. Dre in a bid to embarrass the famous producer, sources told The Post yesterday.
Finally exposed. I been thinking that from day 1, but some people still wouldnt believe it. Thank God they got served now.
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too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
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too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
Too bad the U.S. can attack Iraq and change reasons for it daily without finding WMD and lying to the whole world, while countries like Korea and Iran arent even allowed to produce nukes despite not having started 2 wars in the past 4 years... life is unfair, homie. Plus, no way dude is getting life.
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Man, I can't say I'm not surprised though. That Suge can really hold a grudge.
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damn
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too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
Too bad the U.S. can attack Iraq and change reasons for it daily without finding WMD and lying to the whole world, while countries like Korea and Iran arent even allowed to produce nukes despite not having started 2 wars in the past 4 years... life is unfair, homie. Plus, no way dude is getting life.
could you please stay on topic... the vibe awards have nothing to do with slavery, native american genocide, iran contraband or any other thing your silly mind would like to relate to 2 black people commited crimes
back on topic..
i think the guy that punched Dre should have him and his family taken out of their house by soldiers, have their house looted and then throw them into camps... the males members of the family should go to this one camp and work until they die and the females should be raped
the rapper that stabbed the guy should be loaded into a train and told that he is going to go someplace and while he is in the train we should gas him or they can tell him to take a shower and gas him there, then we can throw all the bodies in a pit and try to pretend it never happened
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too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
Too bad the U.S. can attack Iraq and change reasons for it daily without finding WMD and lying to the whole world, while countries like Korea and Iran arent even allowed to produce nukes despite not having started 2 wars in the past 4 years... life is unfair, homie. Plus, no way dude is getting life.
could you please stay on topic... the vibe awards have nothing to do with slavery, native american genocide, iran contraband or any other thing your silly mind would like to relate to 2 black people commited crimes
back on topic..
i think the guy that punched Dre should have him and his family taken out of their house by soldiers, have their house looted and then throw them into camps... the males members of the family should go to this one camp and work until they die and the females should be raped
the rapper that stabbed the guy should be loaded into a train and told that he is going to go someplace and while he is in the train we should gas him or they can tell him to take a shower and gas him there, then we can throw all the bodies in a pit and try to pretend it never happened
it was on topic.
life is unfair, that's why.
rest was just to back up how life is unfair.
sorry if it made you a little mad :)
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How do you know the dude isnt just saying this so that he wont get life?? this is his only defense, that he needed to so that his brother could get out of debt. if i were going in for life, i would lie my ass off too and say that i needed to in order to protect my brother. i dunno, seems like just an excuse, but not the truth.
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How do you know the dude isnt just saying this so that he wont get life?? this is his only defense, that he needed to so that his brother could get out of debt. if i were going in for life, i would lie my ass off too and say that i needed to in order to protect my brother. i dunno, seems like just an excuse, but not the truth.
why are yall talking about getting life? I know america has twisted morals and all, but no way someone gets life for a little sucker punch, not even in america.
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How do you know the dude isnt just saying this so that he wont get life?? this is his only defense, that he needed to so that his brother could get out of debt. if i were going in for life, i would lie my ass off too and say that i needed to in order to protect my brother. i dunno, seems like just an excuse, but not the truth.
exactly what i was thinking... the guy would get killed anyway for snitching lol
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How do you know the dude isnt just saying this so that he wont get life?? this is his only defense, that he needed to so that his brother could get out of debt. if i were going in for life, i would lie my ass off too and say that i needed to in order to protect my brother. i dunno, seems like just an excuse, but not the truth.
ever heard of 3 strikes
why are yall talking about getting life? I know america has twisted morals and all, but no way someone gets life for a little sucker punch, not even in america.
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it was on topic.
life is unfair, that's why.
rest was just to back up how life is unfair.
sorry if it made you a little mad :)
no it wasnt
didn't say it was unfair, just said it sucks to be the one guy, i really don't care about fairness
just pointed out that as a mod you should know better
and lastly, you didn't make me mad...so you pretty much lost out on this one
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How do you know the dude isnt just saying this so that he wont get life?? this is his only defense, that he needed to so that his brother could get out of debt. if i were going in for life, i would lie my ass off too and say that i needed to in order to protect my brother. i dunno, seems like just an excuse, but not the truth.
ever heard of 3 strikes
why are yall talking about getting life? I know america has twisted morals and all, but no way someone gets life for a little sucker punch, not even in america.
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well, I guessed everything is possible there lol. even going to jail for months for driving under influence. but getting life for a sucker punch (although being on parole and all) is just blowing things way outta proportion.
no it wasnt
didn't say it was unfair, just said it sucks to be the one guy, i really don't care about fairness
just pointed out that as a mod you should know better
and lastly, you didn't make me mad...so you pretty much lost out on this one
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the three strike rule was imposed for reoccuring offenders... anything that is considered a felony makes you eligible for a strike...and seeing how prison is supposed to reform the people that go into it...if the people just come out and commit more crimes, it shows taht the punishment hasn't done it's job...hence a longer stay...
don't know if any studies have showed the efficiency of this program but it is a costly one to the california taxpayer
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Three Strikes Is only in California Anyway, not all over the united states
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the three strike rule was imposed for reoccuring offenders... anything that is considered a felony makes you eligible for a strike...and seeing how prison is supposed to reform the people that go into it...if the people just come out and commit more crimes, it shows taht the punishment hasn't done it's job...hence a longer stay...
don't know if any studies have showed the efficiency of this program but it is a costly one to the california taxpayer
so if I get caught 3 times.. let's say.. minor shop lifting.. I get life in Cali? lol..
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the three strike rule was imposed for reoccuring offenders... anything that is considered a felony makes you eligible for a strike...and seeing how prison is supposed to reform the people that go into it...if the people just come out and commit more crimes, it shows taht the punishment hasn't done it's job...hence a longer stay...
don't know if any studies have showed the efficiency of this program but it is a costly one to the california taxpayer
so if I get caught 3 times.. let's say.. minor shop lifting.. I get life in Cali? lol..
no shoplifting is a minor offence, the three strike rule is more about the violent offences such as rape, assault, murder and manslaughter i think lesser felonies (breaking and entering, burglary...) can get you your first two strikes but it takes the violent ones to get you your third strike
a criminal that spit on a cop went up for his third strike....spitting on a cop is considered "assault on a police officer" don't remember what happened to him
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Not Shop Lifting, Shoplifting on your 3rd offense is a felony wobbler. A Wobbler is a felony that could be reduced to a misdemenor.
after your 3rd offense, then every time afterward would be a felony.
Felony's are serious crimes, IE Burglary, murder (which you would prob. get life anyway), extortion, etc.
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the three strike rule was imposed for reoccuring offenders... anything that is considered a felony makes you eligible for a strike...and seeing how prison is supposed to reform the people that go into it...if the people just come out and commit more crimes, it shows taht the punishment hasn't done it's job...hence a longer stay...
don't know if any studies have showed the efficiency of this program but it is a costly one to the california taxpayer
so if I get caught 3 times.. let's say.. minor shop lifting.. I get life in Cali? lol..
no shoplifting is a minor offence, the three strike rule is more about the violent offences such as rape, assault, murder and manslaughter i think lesser felonies (breaking and entering, burglary...) can get you your first two strikes but it takes the violent ones to get you your third strike
a criminal that spit on a cop went up for his third strike....spitting on a cop is considered "assault on a police officer" don't remember what happened to him
The First Inmate Who went in for 3 strikes Stole A Slice of pizza from a kid @ The Santa Monica Pier. He was charged with Burglary, Now he's a Lifer. But his previous felonys included assult with a deadly weapon & spousal abuse.
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oh i thought only certain offences could get you the third strike...i guess that clears that up
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I understand.. If that is enough for a 3rd strike and life, I wonder how damn dumb the dude is for doing it. Did he think he wouldnt be caught? LOL... Plus, what's up with Suge.. he should have got a dude that with a clean(er) crime record, well.. weird shit overall. People can't do things right these days. His life is over now. If he gets free Suge kills him if it is true, cause Suge is in trouble too if that is true.. (if there's any proof).
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Don't believe everything you read. That fool would be willing to say anything right about now.
oh and how did Dre getting sucker punched result in all this bullshit anti-american propaganda in this thread?
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I knew it.
But why the fuck did suge do that...? ???
It makes no sense...
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I know a lil bit more about it, but it definitely was dealin with Suge. I don't know the details of the dude that punched him and how much he got paid or whatever else, but I know he was ordered by him. Thing is, he's putitn himself in danger by mentionin Suge's name because Suge could put a hit out on him or anything now, so he might be better off in jail.
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Don't believe everything you read. That fool would be willing to say anything right about now.
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strange,hes a street dude but also a snitch??
lol maybe they payed him 2 say that so they can send suge back down....
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some bytch move by suge. suge is tha biggest hater out there
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not believin it. everybody know the police are lookin for any reason to send Suge back to jail. this dude probably usin Suge as his scapegoat
too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
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I just find it odd that the ONE awards show Dre finally attends, this mess happens. He hadn't been to an awards show in a long time, so isn't kind of ironic that Suge would show up, uninvited no less...bottom line, whether Suge was involved or not, his beef with Dre won't die until one of them does...
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I never understood what Suge was doing at the show in the first place ??? He has no music coming out, no artists nominated nor is he nominated himself for anything. Whoever keeps letting this fat fuck into these award shows is the real problem. IMO Suge should be banned from the industry for life.
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Why do people think street people wouldn't snitch. Shit, they have a special section in prison for snitches, 'cause everyone wants to get the snitches. People from the streets snitch too.
As for Suge, who in their right mind would just walk up and punch Dr. Dre for no reason, just to do it. I mean, you have to have balls, to go through security and punch someone like Dr. Dre. Of course, if you have someone like Suge Knight behind you, then you feel more secure getting yourself in a situation like that. It makes sense that Suge had something to do with it, or Irv Gotti or someone that thinks they are the Godfather of rap.
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too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
Too bad the U.S. can attack Iraq and change reasons for it daily without finding WMD and lying to the whole world, while countries like Korea and Iran arent even allowed to produce nukes despite not having started 2 wars in the past 4 years... life is unfair, homie. Plus, no way dude is getting life.
lol what the fuck does this have to do with anything? lol....
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not believin it. everybody know the police are lookin for any reason to send Suge back to jail. this dude probably usin Suge as his scapegoat
too bad the guy that threw the punch has a good chance of getting life, but the rapper who tried to stab the shit out of him will probably get community service
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Nah homie...it really was Suge. That's 100% fact, no kind of bullshit.
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Not surprising at all. Dre is successful, Suge ain't and he tried to shame him.
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damn suge goin down againg he must like jail :-X
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LOL Suge must really like gettin raped in prison. ;D
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LOL Suge must really like gettin raped in prison. ;D
dude probaly offers to pick the soap up
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lol what a fuckin idiot, he already had 2 strikes and he did this? what did the guy think, he was actually gonna get away with punchin dre in the face in the middle of the vibe awards? lmao, he almost deserves the sentece just for bein that stupid
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i agree how stupid must he be!
I hate suge knight he is a lil pussy y doesnt he do his own dirty work fucking coward!
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they'll send suge to camp cupcake and hell smoke cigars and play tennis....people have this misconception that suge would be in rikers or san quintin or something....but the hard part is proving suge gave compensation for the attack....this will be interesting to see how this plays out in the following months....
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I never understood what Suge was doing at the show in the first place ??? He has no music coming out, no artists nominated nor is he nominated himself for anything. Whoever keeps letting this fat fuck into these award shows is the real problem. IMO Suge should be banned from the industry for life.
he goes 2 every show with petey...
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Just because tha nigga said he was paid by Suge doesn't mean this actually happened. If he had said someone else paid him to do we would probably be saying it's Suge Knight and he's just trying to cover for him. tha nigga is a full blown cunt he risked life in prison for 5 thousand dollars ?
he's smoking shit !!!!
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real dumb move....and to have a muthafuka do it that drop the dime on you as well....hahahahahahahah nigga fuckin wit snitches...damm all that money and don't know what to do with it ,is hard to understand....sitting behind bars must be something he enjoys...
Suge need to make better decissions.......and concentrate on his artist release dates... ::)
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suge is pretty fat, he should go on that vh1 show, celeb weight loss club, it would be pretty funny
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Just because tha nigga said he was paid by Suge doesn't mean this actually happened. If he had sad someone else paid him to do we would probably be saying it's Suge Knight and he's just trying to cover for him. tha nigga is a full blown cunt he risked life in prison for 5 thousand dollars ?
he's smoking shit !!!!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^real talk...
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Man, I can't say I'm not surprised though. That Suge can really hold a grudge.
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i duno, from all the shit you see/hear about Suge, i would NOT be snitchin on him if i was this dude. i wouldn't be suprised if this guy ends up found in a dumpster full of bullets
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lol that backfired on Suge
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Suge needs to stop hating! The beef with dre was ages ago. He needs to let it go.
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Not surprising at all. Dre is successful, Suge ain't and he tried to shame him.
lol yeah,nobody knows if what the guy is saying is true and you are saying you already knew it and it's a fact
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How long has it been since Dre left DR, around 10, 11 years ago?? That is the sad part, I mean he basically left with no money from DR and only tried to take some of the songs he produced and Suge even got most of that back. I think what really pisses Suge off today is how Dre basically ignores anything about Suge or DR and just acts like Suge does not exist and makes his millions, makes millions for others (Em, 50 cent, Game), kicks back with his family and in his own quiet way you know he is thinking, FUCK SUGE KNIGHT. Suge always says Dre is gay but he is really the one who acts like a gay bitch who had is heart broken and cannot get over it. Let's just hope this will put him away for good and we can just get to enjoying hip hop music and hip hop award shows without Suge's stupid, broken hearted bullshit. Besides, maybe he and his little stupid flunky can get a cell together and live happily ever after. Like Dre said when he accepted his award, "YOU CAN'T STOP ME".
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How long has it been since Dre left DR, around 10, 11 years ago?? That is the sad part, I mean he basically left with no money from DR and only tried to take some of the songs he produced and Suge even got most of that back. I think what really pisses Suge off today is how Dre basically ignores anything about Suge or DR and just acts like Suge does not exist and makes his millions, makes millions for others (Em, 50 cent, Game), kicks back with his family and in his own quiet way you know he is thinking, FUCK SUGE KNIGHT. Suge always says Dre is gay but he is really the one who acts like a gay bitch who had is heart broken and cannot get over it. Let's just hope this will put him away for good and we can just get to enjoying hip hop music and hip hop award shows without Suge's stupid, broken hearted bullshit. Besides, maybe he and his little stupid flunky can get a cell together and live happily ever after. Like Dre said when he accepted his award, "YOU CAN'T STOP ME".
word up 8)
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I understand.. If that is enough for a 3rd strike and life, I wonder how damn dumb the dude is for doing it. Did he think he wouldnt be caught? LOL... Plus, what's up with Suge.. he should have got a dude that with a clean(er) crime record, well.. weird shit overall. People can't do things right these days. His life is over now. If he gets free Suge kills him if it is true, cause Suge is in trouble too if that is true.. (if there's any proof).
How we know the guy is liyin and how we know Suge didn't payed him?We don't.U wonder how dumb the guy was?5000 $ maybe u need them, there's a lotta money + with a man with record i think wouldn't be so much thinkin at repercution.
And how the fuck can he get life for a punch? What Dre is know the queen of GB? if any is true, hope Young Buck get locked up 4 life
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How long has it been since Dre left DR, around 10, 11 years ago?? That is the sad part, I mean he basically left with no money from DR and only tried to take some of the songs he produced and Suge even got most of that back. I think what really pisses Suge off today is how Dre basically ignores anything about Suge or DR and just acts like Suge does not exist and makes his millions, makes millions for others (Em, 50 cent, Game), kicks back with his family and in his own quiet way you know he is thinking, FUCK SUGE KNIGHT. Suge always says Dre is gay but he is really the one who acts like a gay bitch who had is heart broken and cannot get over it. Let's just hope this will put him away for good and we can just get to enjoying hip hop music and hip hop award shows without Suge's stupid, broken hearted bullshit. Besides, maybe he and his little stupid flunky can get a cell together and live happily ever after. Like Dre said when he accepted his award, "YOU CAN'T STOP ME".
word up 8)
^^ anything what's said above there!
Dre's strongest point, is that he's so professional he's gotten to the point of basically ignoring Suge. Hands down to that. He makes Suge look like a fool, which he basically is too.
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How long has it been since Dre left DR, around 10, 11 years ago?? That is the sad part, I mean he basically left with no money from DR and only tried to take some of the songs he produced and Suge even got most of that back. I think what really pisses Suge off today is how Dre basically ignores anything about Suge or DR and just acts like Suge does not exist and makes his millions, makes millions for others (Em, 50 cent, Game), kicks back with his family and in his own quiet way you know he is thinking, FUCK SUGE KNIGHT. Suge always says Dre is gay but he is really the one who acts like a gay bitch who had is heart broken and cannot get over it. Let's just hope this will put him away for good and we can just get to enjoying hip hop music and hip hop award shows without Suge's stupid, broken hearted bullshit. Besides, maybe he and his little stupid flunky can get a cell together and live happily ever after. Like Dre said when he accepted his award, "YOU CAN'T STOP ME".
word up 8)
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I understand.. If that is enough for a 3rd strike and life, I wonder how damn dumb the dude is for doing it. Did he think he wouldnt be caught? LOL... Plus, what's up with Suge.. he should have got a dude that with a clean(er) crime record, well.. weird shit overall. People can't do things right these days. His life is over now. If he gets free Suge kills him if it is true, cause Suge is in trouble too if that is true.. (if there's any proof).
How we know the guy is liyin and how we know Suge didn't payed him?We don't.U wonder how dumb the guy was?5000 $ maybe u need them, there's a lotta money + with a man with record i think wouldn't be so much thinkin at repercution.
And how the fuck can he get life for a punch? What Dre is know the queen of GB? if any is true, hope Young Buck get locked up 4 life
u have to understand we are on dubcnn,the place where it's normal for people to hate on snoop and suge
when was the last time suge talked shit on dre?probably like 2 or 3 years ago but these guys are talking like they know the way suge is thinking
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thats a down ass nigga
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this dude is a snitch. the only reason he ratted out suge is because he's facing a life sentence. i still don't believe suge had anything to do with this. the law has had it in for suge for a long time and they would like to put him away forever. we'll see how this plays out in the upcomig months.
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Damn...how many times do I have to tell y'all before y'all take it serious.
SUGE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.
You know I'm 90% accurate with anything I say....so regardless of what people usually might say about Suge with situations like this, and regardless of if the dude would say anything to get off, just take my word for it.
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hell yea...suge had sumthin to do wit it....daz was right when he said suge wuz behind the whole dude punching dre thing ....suge's a HATER
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u have to understand we are on dubcnn,the place where it's normal for people to hate on snoop and suge
when was the last time suge talked shit on dre?probably like 2 or 3 years ago but these guys are talking like they know the way suge is thinking
LOL........Forgive us for not giving Suge the benefit of the doubt
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lol It would be funny if suge didnt pay for that puncch then yall would be the hater... instead of suge... oo wait... suge hating is normal... lol.... mm right.. By the way I dont think suge paid for it....
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i duno... if R-Tisitic wasnt sayin this i'd say he didnt pay.. but homie been comin thru wit accurate info most of the time so i guess ill go wit him on this one.
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he dead by suge or dre's posse
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Just as sad as it is to think Suge would stoop to such a low level because of his hatred and jealousy for Dre, it is also sad that these Suge Groupies will not accept after all that he has been involved in that he at least COULD have been involved in this. Suge is going DOWN. If not this time, it will happen because he seems to want it to happen. The hatred for Dre and others is going to make him do something even more stupid because it is eating him alive. Dre and Aftermath has left Suge and Deathrow soooooo far in the dust that it is pathetic. If this were a football game, the score would be something like Dre 72----Suge 14. That is why that shit happened. Dre is actually whipping Suge's ass but some of you cannot see it. Dre is killing Suge slowly......WATCH.