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Title: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on September 03, 2002, 06:51:09 AM
Easily the Greatest song ever made to me, on the best Hip Hop album of all time. The song is fucking amazing, partially because nothing has ever been done like this and it aint spitting on the same played topic.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Kill on September 03, 2002, 06:59:42 AM
Yeah, it's really dope and very special, sum kind of history lesson, maybe not my all time fav song, but a lyrical masterpiece
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: kuniver on September 03, 2002, 08:07:25 AM
Song isnt all that great, it kinda gets boring and irritating after awhie because the beat isnt good.. if you want to talk about best hip hop song.. mention COMMON "The Light", theres a song with a great meaning to it and a good ass song...
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Kill on September 03, 2002, 08:10:21 AM
Yeah, the beat could be better, though it don't get annoyin to me. But lyrically it's great
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on September 03, 2002, 08:12:16 AM
Who gives a shit about the beat, Ras Kass's lyrics takes your mind away completly from the beat. Someone could play the beat of the song to me and I wouldnt know where its from, and I've listened to the song hundreds of times. Common - "The Light" is also one of my favourite tracks of all time. Commons yet to drop something thats been wack in my eyes.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: CharlieBrown on September 03, 2002, 08:13:45 AM
Its definitly one of the greatest lyrical songs ever, but the production isn't anything special (maybe get primo to remix and use it as a bonus track on goldyn chyld? that would be classic) i just hate the way ras never gets in any greatest lyrics/lyricists of all time lists.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 03, 2002, 08:17:05 AM
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If you want to talk about best hip hop song.. mention COMMON "The Light".


::)  

"The Light"  ??? I guess you started listening to hip-hop a couple of years ago.


Anyways, "Nature Of The Threat" is dope song, I like the beat and Ras Kass comes off good even if some of the content is a bit racist and the history facts and definitions he spits are debatable.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on September 03, 2002, 08:18:42 AM
Racist content? I've yet to hear a racist remark on this song. You listening to the same song?
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Kill on September 03, 2002, 08:19:41 AM
Oh yeah, logic...How's life as a lil geezy ? ;D
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on September 03, 2002, 08:26:58 AM
Interview With A Vampire & TV Guide should also be given a listen.

Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Murrow on September 03, 2002, 08:35:19 AM
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if you want to talk about best hip hop song.. mention COMMON "The Light", theres a song with a great meaning to it and a good ass song...


Hell Yeah.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 03, 2002, 08:36:07 AM
Here's one unaccurate definition:

Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
in every areas of human relation
Entertainment, education, labor, politics
Law, religion, sex, war and economics

I know that's the way he's sees it but it sure isn't fact

Also, I ain't religious and don't know anything about the bible but is this a real fact?

Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?

And:

Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now

Does anyone think that white people created AIDS to kill off "browns" and "blacks" and stay predominant and survive as a race because they are worried they would take over?

Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: bLaDe on September 03, 2002, 08:59:34 AM
Yes, I beleive Tech posted this b4...anywya that song is mindblowing for real, it just gets to you...doesnt have such a good beat, but like LogiC said, the lyrics take your mind off the beat.  Great shit, also INterview with a Vampire is amazing..

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Also, I ain't religious and don't know anything about the bible but is this a real fact?

Cause Christ was not his name
That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?

And:

Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
Now since people of color are genetically dominant
and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then they simply must, take precautions
That's why they're worried about their future now

Does anyone think that white people created AIDS to kill off "browns" and "blacks" and stay predominant and survive as a race because they are worried they would take over?



I dont know if thats Jesus's real name, but yeah Christ means one who is annointed.

And yeah I read some articles on the net where they said the AIDS virus is man made and was put in polio vacceens and injected into kids in Africa.  IT also said that it was to kill off black and brown people.  The other story is that AIDS was made when an african had sex with the Green Monkey, but i find that hard to beleive, peace

 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: ILL-Logic-AL on September 03, 2002, 09:00:46 AM
Alot of what Ras Kass spits adds up perfectly and I'm sure quite a few people believe that AIDS was brought into the ghetto by the American Goverment.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Don Seer on September 03, 2002, 09:17:57 AM
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Racist content? I've yet to hear a racist remark on this song. You listening to the same song?


you're deaf then.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Lord Funk on September 03, 2002, 10:17:21 AM
In an interview with Hip Hop Connection magazine around the time Rassassination was released, Ras said that Nature of the Threat would have accomplished its task if it made one listener think about some of the topics it raises.

He went on to admit that some of the theories he discusses on the song are debatable, and that if he recorded the track today it woudn't be quite the same. But he said all the song was meant to be was a record of his own research into the history of oppression and colonialisation.

So yeah, some of the lyrics may not quite add up, but Ras made a brave move to make a song like this. His place in the Hip Hop Hall of Fame is cemented with thsi track. It's classic.

Most rappers woudln't have found their way to the library to evne research a song like this, let alone recorded and put it out. Big up ras for a dope ass hisotry lesson.

(Damn, sorry about all the spelling mistakes. I'd correct them, but I'm sitting here with a big old glass of wine, and... ;) )
Title: Common (Sense) is one of the greats, as well.
Post by: HairWuzEre on September 03, 2002, 10:43:08 AM
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COMMON "The Light", theres a song with a great meaning to it and a good ass song...
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Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: smartass on September 03, 2002, 10:51:41 AM
yeah its ill. i've always liked "i used to love her" by common better tho.
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Don Seer on September 03, 2002, 11:18:50 AM
yeah common is tight... i've only know 'like water for chocolate' really well.. even thought i've got it all i havent listened to his earlier stuff as much. i cant remember how i got into him... i think i just picked up the album after i read something about it.. didnt even know what to expect.. gotta take risks sometimes  ;D

fave songs from l.w.f.c .... the light.. tight ass video too feat erykah badu... primo also lace a tight one for '6th sense' (lyrically the best song on the LP IMO *click to read* (http://www.ohhla.com/anonymous/common/water/6thsense.cms.txt
)) . 'the questions' is also dope and




i'm not really feeling 'i used to love her', but its one of the most original disses ever. (to ice cube for those that dont know).
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Twentytwofifty on September 03, 2002, 11:28:45 AM
Not the biggest Common fan, however, "The Bitch In Yoo" is one of favourite dis records ever.

A bitch nigga wit an attitude named Cube
Step to Com wit a feud
Now what the fuck I look like dissing a whole coast
You ain't made shit dope since AmeriKKKa's Most

Hyprocrite, I'm filling out your Death Certificate
Slanging bean pies and St Ide's in the same sentence
Shoulda repented, on the 16th of October
Get some beats besides George Clinton to rock over

And the Circle Madd, ain't got no choice but to fight
Ain't none of y'all muthafukas got a chance on the mic

:o
Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: M Dogg™ on September 03, 2002, 04:45:12 PM
I'm a Christain, and I know that Christ is Greek. Also, he mentioned who they painted a white picture of Jesus, which is true since Jesus was born in the Middle East, and is discribed as having bronze skin and wooley hair.

Racism is a discrimination of people against all those not in power, in the United States that'd be white, in Latin America that'd be Hispanics, in Asia that'd be Asians and so on. I know people think racism is racism, but the word reverse-racism exist for a reason, to seperate the differences of the two.

AIDS is man made... put in the ghetto's... humm... NO! AIDS was first in the homosexual community. It could have been contanted, but since it was a homosexual disease, Reagon at the time decided to ignore it, thus causing the disease to spread, not knowing the results. They never thought heterosexuals, let alone intercity people, would get infected.

Ras Kass showed tons of guts to release that song. It's amazing it's getting talked about now, since it was released 5 years ago. Oh well, better late than never. Other lines that are very hard for people to take.

Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
"In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny

A consepted that fueled the United States expansion, killing many Native Americans. Though this is not how Manifest Destiny got coined, nor was this the thinking at the time of the United States.

They slaughtered a whole race with guns
Drugs, priests and nuns
1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity

Natives saw Priest as an escape, as many Priest were against all the killing. Whites also had no immunity to Small Pox. In the end though, was one of the worst slaughters in world history, as whole nations of people were cleaned from the Earth as if they never existed.

Cuz by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
(I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
So they created a system
to force blacks into an unnatural position
That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
and every other culture considered primitive - not true!

Old school thinking, but not very modern. And also, this is just the United States, 'cause most the world is Asian. And in the old way of thinking, they did not know that 2050 would be the year that minorities would be the majority, so many ideas in one that makes no sense.

They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
But before slaves came here whites would take a
pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
Slice her stomach with a knife
and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
and not rebel more

Also done in the United States.

Title: Re: Ras Kass - "Nature Of The Threat"
Post by: Instant_Killa on September 03, 2002, 06:10:29 PM
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Yeah, it's really dope and very special, sum kind of history lesson, maybe not my all time fav song, but a lyrical masterpiece