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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on January 31, 2005, 03:39:52 AM
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2 classic group albums:
-dogg food
- dillinger & young gotti
2 classic solos:
-retaliation revenge & get back
-RAW
2 really good solos:
-this is the life I lead
-dogg pound gangsta lp
2 unofficial tight group albums:
-dogg pound 2002
-last of the pound
and 2 good compilations:
-who ride wit us vol 1 & vol 2
two average solos:
-dpgc u kno what im throwin up
-i got love in these streetz
aswell as produced classics for 2 Pac, Snoop Dogg, etc.
now DAZ is what i called underrated...
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i'm just gonna put a big ass WORD! on this one
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Can't forget the shit he did on G Funk Classics... Scared Of Love is classic!
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IMO Daz has only one classic album Dogg Food.
Daz is definitely underrated though especially for his work from '93-'96. Every song during that time period was classic that he produced. Right now he still got it in him but he's hit or miss for me.
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daz IS a legend for hip hop and he keep dropping great songs
jermaine dupri is not fucking stupid ..
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^^^ agreed!
his last 3 solos dpgc u know..., i got love LP, dogg pound gangsta lp are hella dope albums. i´m so glad he left death row.
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Daz is a real West Coast legend, yeah. His only problem is that he didnt left Death Row in time, and now he's paying for it. I mean Snoop & Dre didnt want him in the Up In Smoke Tour, that was the perfect opportunity for him to get the recognition he deserved. Now he's paying for it, and to get people's attention he needs to diss his own wife. Kinda sad. But yeah, his albums rarely disappoint me.
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he is also a complete artist: he can produce and he rapped very good lyrics
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His only classic is Dogg Food. C'mon, RR&GB is a good album, but not even near a classic. Same for RAW, Dillinger & Young Gotti is a very average album.
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even Dogg Food isnt a certified classic.. maybe classic in the context of DPG.. BUT NOT in the context of the rap game.
dont get me wrong.. i like the album, but it sure aint a classic.
RR&GB doesnt match up to Dogg Food..
most of his DPG output has been weak low budget shit with recycled verses with the occasional hot track.
how can you fall for Daz putting on the same verses on 3 consecutive albums over different beats? come on!
Dillinger & Young Gotti and RAW are the best since he left Death Row. (and both were partially recorded in that environment/had tracks rerecorded after)
he puts maybe 1 or 2 really good tracks on each DPG release and the rest is FILLER... it should be the other way around.. (in an ideal world none)
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daz is underated fo sho , he still makin good music
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I don't think those 4 albums are classics. For me, "Dogg Food" is classic. The rest rate from dope to crap. He puts out too much music, and too much weak tracks in consequence.
He's a dope artist, nevertheless, and I have high expectations for "So so gangsta".
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From another thread (that "post death row" one)
Kurupt (he had a dope double-album, and a classic album after he leave Death Row)
RUBBISH
dope double album? Kuruption was WEAK
Streetz is a Mutha was tight.. but NOT classic
Space Boogie was nearly as good.. but fell a bit short of streetz
muthafuckas be throwin the word classic around without knowing what that shit means..
hell yeah an album can be tight.. but it aint no classic!!
I'll agree with Overseer here... People really are abusing the term 'classic'. Classics are rare - Daz might be good but he's got no real classics. Classics have influence on the entire game, I can't recall Daz ever really doing that.
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even Dogg Food isnt a certified classic.. maybe classic in the context of DPG.. BUT NOT in the context of the rap game.
dont get me wrong.. i like the album, but it sure aint a classic.
RR&GB doesnt match up to Dogg Food..
most of his DPG output has been weak low budget shit with recycled verses with the occasional hot track.
how can you fall for Daz putting on the same verses on 3 consecutive albums over different beats? come on!
Dillinger & Young Gotti and RAW are the best since he left Death Row. (and both were partially recorded in that environment/had tracks rerecorded after)
he puts maybe 1 or 2 really good tracks on each DPG release and the rest is FILLER... it should be the other way around.. (in an ideal world none)
to me Dogg Food is a perfect album. top notch lyrics. top notch beats. top notch hooks. everything is right abuot it.
RR&GB i can bump all the way thru without skipping a track, same with RAW. and it's been that way since they dropped, which makes an album classic to me. dillinger& young gotti too.
i do not pretend that they didn't get weaker with time, Dilli & Gotti is weaker than Dogg Food, no doubt about that. It's still a classic album to me though..
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ok i see what ya'll sayin, i guess they're personal classics then.. but i don't agree with the system that EVERYBODY has to say something is classic for it to be classic... If an album is classic to me, why can't i call it a classic? why do i need others opinions to say if somethin is classic to me? those albums have stood the test of time and are classics to me...
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aswell as produced classics for 2 Pac, Snoop Dogg, etc.
I really dont think the Ambitions As A Ridah beat is the shit.. Pac made it what it is..
Pac coulda rapped over my moms singing (she's awful beleive me..) and banging spoons on a table and it'd still be called classic..
to me... put BattleCat, Too Short and Daz together and you've got something classic!
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I really dont think the Ambitions As A Ridah beat is the shit.. Pac made it what it is..
Pac coulda rapped over my moms singing (she's awful beleive me..) and banging spoons on a table and it'd still be called classic..
to me... put BattleCat, Too Short and Daz together and you've got something classic!
i said it miiiight souuuuund crazy.........
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even Dogg Food isnt a certified classic.. maybe classic in the context of DPG.. BUT NOT in the context of the rap game.
dont get me wrong.. i like the album, but it sure aint a classic.
RR&GB doesnt match up to Dogg Food..
most of his DPG output has been weak low budget shit with recycled verses with the occasional hot track.
how can you fall for Daz putting on the same verses on 3 consecutive albums over different beats? come on!
Dillinger & Young Gotti and RAW are the best since he left Death Row. (and both were partially recorded in that environment/had tracks rerecorded after)
he puts maybe 1 or 2 really good tracks on each DPG release and the rest is FILLER... it should be the other way around.. (in an ideal world none)
RUBBISH
dope double album? Kuruption was WEAK
Streetz is a Mutha was tight.. but NOT classic
Space Boogie was nearly as good.. but fell a bit short of streetz
muthafuckas be throwin the word classic around without knowing what that shit means..
hell yeah an album can be tight.. but it aint no classic!!
Pretty much exactly what I would have wrote.
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I'm a big fan of Daz, but come on. The only one coming close to classic is Dogg Food. Raw is a tight album, but not classic. Revenge and Get Back was alright at best IMO. His other albums are nice.
LBC Trayvone
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I guess it just pisses me off that people shit on daz cause he be talkin alotta shit on the net like they're forgetting all the dope music he brought us. people callin him a crackhead and shit... it's stupid
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^ well thats his own fault isnt it!..
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^ well thats his own fault isnt it!..
yeah but the shit he talks doesn't mean he doesn't put out dope music, and people writin him off cause he talks shit is stupid..i duno. i guess it probably has to do cause i kno daz personally and he's not a crackhead at all lol
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lol at putting daz and 4classics together
i totally disagree.
productionwise i can somehow see how u can say he has one classic (dogg food) under his belt, but thinking back at his flow and lyrics it's just too ridiculous.
dogg food is fuckin dope) but his others are good to wack..
haven't listened to his latest though
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dogg food ain't no classic, it has two very WACK tracks on it: If We All Fuck & Bomb Azz Pussy and One By One or Sooo Much Style, one of em, can't remember, ain't that good, too long interludes, etc.
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Ok, If We All Fucc ain't a strong track, but So Many Style and One By One are fuckin' great!
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fo sho^^^
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BTW Blastro is a dope site 4 videos
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daz has only one classic(dogg food) and 3 good solo
the rest is average
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Dogg Food the only Daz Cd worth talkin about RRAG is aight but the rest aint shit Dogg Food went platinum bacc in tha day
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Dogg Pound's Dogg Food is Daz's only Classic album, The production, Sequencing, Mixing is Flawless.
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i agree with nima
Daz is a great artist and i really think he can sell but he has to stop being an asshole and internet banger and get on the level snoop and jay z and nas are on...
in other words he needs to change the rap game some how and become a legend seriously if he tried hard enough he could be the next Dr. Dre
same for Warren G and Quik all they needs is a good lable to push and promote him and he can be on the same level as Dre
im just sayin tho
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p.s.
dogg food and RRandG are classics hands down
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daz is one of my favorite rappers i just dont like how he acts sumtimes...
lol damn i got real nerdy with rap just about now lol
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aswell as produced classics for 2 Pac, Snoop Dogg, etc.
I really dont think the Ambitions As A Ridah beat is the shit.. Pac made it what it is..
Ambitionz Az a Ridah is flawless in every sense of the word. All the production on AEOM, along with basically every early-mid 90's Death Row release, is first rate.
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I consider Dogg Food and RR&GB both classics, both in my top 10 fav albums of all time. I think RR&GB is a better album than Streets is a Mutha. At one point daz was my favorite rapper, and to this day, I still like his raps on dogg food better than kurupts.
Raw and Dillinger and Young Gotti are both dope albums. Nowhere near Dogg Food and RR&GB, but dope albums. I can't call them classics.
This is the life I lead - very dissapointing for me. I give it a 5/10. No replay value except a couple of songs.
U Know What I'm Throwin Up - I liked it at first when I d/l it, then got tired of it after a few listens. Bought the album, played it once, and have never listened to it since. No replay value, again except for a couple of songs.
Tha Dogg Pound Gangsta LP - Don't know why everyone raves about this. Boring album. Daz cannot hold down an album on the mic anymore. Would have been way better if it were full of dpg guest appearances. Again, absolutely no replay value.
Dogg Pound 2002 - a real solid album, I like it a lot.
The Last of the Pound - solid, nothing stands out too much tho.
Who ride with us compilations are cool.
Everything else is straight wack. Not even worth mentioning.
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yeah but the shit he talks doesn't mean he doesn't put out dope music, and people writin him off cause he talks shit is stupid..i duno. i guess it probably has to do cause i kno daz personally and he's not a crackhead at all lol
Yeah, but in my opinion, you start looking at an artist differently when you find out that he likes to diss people here & there.
Basically, if Daz really puts some effort into his craft, he can really make hot beats...but like Seer said, the majority of his albums (cfr "Who Ride Wit Us compilations) consist of filler-tracks...and that's a shame.
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i never liked retaliation, revenge and get back too much, not even in my hardcore g-funk days.
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raw and dillinger and young gotti are always getting compared to dogg food ....there is a reason for that...those cd's were supposed to be released on deathrow...thats why RAW has that classic deathrow " G funk " sound on it with the live musicians and elaborate production...it was to be released on dpg records that was supposed to be under deathrows umbrella ( remember those ads in blaze where snoops name was crossed out and it had a blue and red rag tied together and listed all the names of the people in dpg?) as for dillenger and young gotti those tracks werent even finished yet when daz left deathrow ....which explains why the versions of those songs that appear on 2002 are so stripped down... mike dean made those tracks sound as proper and polished as they do....remember all those stories of daz bouncin from deathrow and taking a gang of his masters with him? there you go, you do the math....I just thought yall might like a little insight to the origins of these " classics " .
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diggy daz.. i only heard him on the chronic and doggystyle
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why do i feel like nima is daz'z new publicist or summ
peace
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^^ Naw, it ain't even about that. Just because I work with the artists doesn't mean I can't have a personal opinion about shit. I'm still a fan like everybody else on here, and I felt like making this thread to say what I wanted to say thats all.
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in my mind there is no doubt about it that daz has 4 classiks under his belt. i know that opinions are opinions and everyone has one but i find it hard to believe when someone says that doggfood is not a classik. so I count that as 1 each for kurupt and daz and then my personal opinion is that Revenge,Retaliation and Getback and raw are classic albums and for kurupt i fell that kuruption and streetz are classic albums.
so the way i see it saying kurupt and daz have only a couple of classic albums is a huge understatement, while in fact they probaly combine for about 5 or 6 classic albums
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in my mind there is no doubt about it that daz has 4 classiks under his belt. i know that opinions are opinions and everyone has one but i find it hard to believe when someone says that doggfood is not a classik. so I count that as 1 each for kurupt and daz and then my personal opinion is that Revenge,Retaliation and Getback and raw are classic albums and for kurupt i fell that kuruption and streetz are classic albums.
so the way i see it saying kurupt and daz have only a couple of classic albums is a huge understatement, while in fact they probaly combine for about 5 or 6 classic albums
Your opinion is wrong.
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^^ Naw, it ain't even about that. Just because I work with the artists doesn't mean I can't have a personal opinion about shit. I'm still a fan like everybody else on here, and I felt like making this thread to say what I wanted to say thats all.
cmon man i was just playing...but really u been posting a lot of threads about daz lately...im prolly a bigger daz fan than most people on here (dont really care for much besides what i hear on his albums tho)
peace
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I dont think daz is underrated..he's a dope producer,it's his attitude the ruins his reputation.
I also think its funny how he made those two new radio singles with pacs beats,
the "keep ya head up" one, and the other joint with nate dog,
that was originally also pacs beat i got it on a bootleg,
but im guessing daz made it? I dunno, but my point is he COULD have came up with something more original for 2005..but again..that was probably a buisness move ,knowing those joints would make it on to the radio..I agree daz has a couple classics but i think his mouth takes alot of his credit away and over shadows him.
just my opinion.
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Fuck all these industry dick riders with their typical classic list (Chronic, 2001, Doggystyle, Ready 2 Die, Reasonable Doubt, Illmatic etc..) Fuck what you heard. Dogg Food - Classic, sounds better today than alot of so called classic DR releases.
Retaliation, Revenge, and Get Back- Classic! Pure, high quality West Coast gangsta shit @ its finest.
I'll give Daz two classics under his belt.
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CLASSICS = The Chronic (Dr Dre), Doggystyle (Snoop), All Eyez On Me (Pac), Regulate G Funk Era (Warren G) sure as hell not those you mentioned, good albums yeah, but classics NO.
But I respect yur opinion
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Warren G- Regulate G- Funk era? Classic? Ha Ha Ha. ??? That's ur opinion
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Just a question...
...were u into ...and by into i mean really into hiphop when that album came out ?
Cos id been into hiphop rap for nearly 10 yrs back then...and it was one that was fresh, new and paved the way for other artists...
IMO classics are records u can listen to 5/10/15 yrs later and still appreciate...also these are records that influence other artists and what new gen is spawned....
..and this is def. one
this is one of those few albums (in comparison to the amount i have) that i can pick up and still get a feelin of the same enjoyment /reminisce of back at the time i first was listening to it
pZ
VVVVV
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I'm with seer on this one
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Just a question...
...were u into ...and by into i mean really into hiphop when that album came out ?
Cos id been into hiphop rap for nearly 10 yrs back then...and it was one that was fresh, new and paved the way for other artists...
IMO classics are records u can listen to 5/10/15 yrs later and still appreciate...also these are records that influence other artists and what new gen is spawned....
..and this is def. one
this is one of those few albums (in comparison to the amount i have) that i can pick up and still get a feelin of the same enjoyment /reminisce of back at the time i first was listening to it
pZ
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word up. Regulate is a definite classic.
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Not 4 classics....Dogg food is a classic ...excellent production, kurupt spittin like a mothafucka, and Daz holdin his own...its funny when yall mentioning classics like straight from a "Mainstream" encyclopedia or some shit...
Peace
LazyL