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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Trauma-san on January 31, 2005, 02:07:16 PM
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I don't know if folks have been paying attention, but this Michael Jackson trial is going to be the biggest trial of all time. He's the most famous celebrity ever brought to trial, and his life hangs in the balance. This is serious shit. If he's guilty, he's guilty of one of the most horrible things someone can do on earth, molesting a child, and if he's innocent, he's being unfairly prosecuted by the media and stigmatized for life... all as a result of his philanthrophy, and his intent to save a dying child. Either way it goes, we're witnessing a great american tragedy.
Anyways, over the last few weeks, leaks keep coming out, mainly of what the boy claimed in a grand jury testimony. In a grand jury testimony, the boy was able to talk and claim and say whatever he wanted, with no defense present, and nobody to validate, dispute, or prove the child's claims. So tons of things have leaked, that could or could not be true, there's no court involved, no dispute or evidence involved, simply someone saying what they want. The media has ran with this, and plastered all this buillshit that isn't even evidence or even considered legally binding all over the place, and basically is trying Michael in the public court of opinion, by illegally leaking all this information. It's a fucking felony for christ's sake, but nobody knows where the papers are coming from... the most likely source is the District Attorney's office, who are attempting to pollute the jury pool with released transcripts before the trial even starts.
Anyways, the judge has out of mercy allowed Michael to comment on it, and I think what he says is pretty powerful, and reinforces my belief that he's innocent. We could get into it for hours on why I feel he's innocent, but we'll have to let the courts officially decide, I'll support which ever way our legal system decides it.
Here's Michael's statement.
http://mjjsource.com/main/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=375&Itemid=42
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i was talking earlier about this.. how can they get a fair jury? everyone in the world knows about this damn trial..
i also feel he is innocent..
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I don't know if folks have been paying attention, but this Michael Jackson trial is going to be the biggest trial of all time. He's the most famous celebrity ever brought to trial, and his life hangs in the balance. This is serious shit. If he's guilty, he's guilty of one of the most horrible things someone can do on earth, molesting a child, and if he's innocent, he's being unfairly prosecuted by the media and stigmatized for life... all as a result of his philanthrophy, and his intent to save a dying child. Either way it goes, we're witnessing a great american tragedy.
Anyways, over the last few weeks, leaks keep coming out, mainly of what the boy claimed in a grand jury testimony. In a grand jury testimony, the boy was able to talk and claim and say whatever he wanted, with no defense present, and nobody to validate, dispute, or prove the child's claims. So tons of things have leaked, that could or could not be true, there's no court involved, no dispute or evidence involved, simply someone saying what they want. The media has ran with this, and plastered all this buillshit that isn't even evidence or even considered legally binding all over the place, and basically is trying Michael in the public court of opinion, by illegally leaking all this information. It's a fucking felony for christ's sake, but nobody knows where the papers are coming from... the most likely source is the District Attorney's office, who are attempting to pollute the jury pool with released transcripts before the trial even starts.
Anyways, the judge has out of mercy allowed Michael to comment on it, and I think what he says is pretty powerful, and reinforces my belief that he's innocent. We could get into it for hours on why I feel he's innocent, but we'll have to let the courts officially decide, I'll support which ever way our legal system decides it.
Here's Michael's statement.
http://mjjsource.com/main/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=375&Itemid=42
Cosign Trauma on the part about "get into it for hours" because at first I thought he was guilty. Until, Heraldo Rivera came out with a statement about Michael getting "railroaded". In fact, he says this case will go down in history as an "unjustified lynching of one of the greatest entertainers of the world".
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He can't possibly get a fair trial... either way. Someone will either already feel he's innocent, or already feel he's guilty. There's no other way, though. What else can we do? The only fair (hah!) way to do it, is to just try our best, and try him to the best of our ability. If he's found innocent, it will probably be because the jurors already felt that way before the trial. Same if he's found guilty. It's a classic he said he said (hah!) case. I do know one thing: There is virtually NO evidence against Michael. There are no people who saw him molest the kid. There is no evidence that he molested the kid. There is a ton of evidence that points to him being innocent, but that still doesn't prove that he DIDN'T do it.
Pics of Mike arriving at court today, the first day of the trail, and the first day of jury selection. Michael stood with his hands behind his back as300 potential jurors filed in and out of the courtroom, all no doubt staring at this freak we've accused of such a horrible crime.
(http://img54.exs.cx/img54/2930/520869638cd.jpg)
Michael's looking THIN as hell, like he did back in the day. Maybe he'll be able to tour if he's aquitted, lol.
(http://img9.exs.cx/img9/9849/r42439908327cy.jpg)
(http://img149.exs.cx/img149/2305/520870416jo.jpg)
(http://img71.exs.cx/img71/5531/520871121te.jpg)
(http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7039/520889303qf.jpg)
Imagine for a moment that he IS truly innocent. I dunno if there's ever been a more horrible crime committed than his accusation, then. Here's a man before you who's helped thousands, and thousands of children around the world with his money. Here's a man who was called, and told that a child was dying of Cancer, so he decided to let the child (who was homeless) stay with his family at his mansion, and spent some time with the child... the child goes on television saying that Michael saved his life, and it gives him reason to live, all this stuff. If he's truly innocent, it must mean that the mom (who by all accounts was 'cut off' from her spending allowance by Jackson after she started throwing fits on his property, sometimes even apparently high on crack)... his mom must have turned him and told him to say this stuff about Michael... if he's innocent. That's the only explanation, and to me, it's pretty much exactly what happened, but I wasn't there. Imagine though, that it went down like that. Michael, a freak, a weirdo, out of his own good intentions, and out of a heart that's placed him as the #1 philanthropist in the Guiness Book of World Records, ends up in prison and hated by the world just for attempting to make someone's life a little better. That, in my opinion, would be possibly the greatest injustice of all time, bar none. Not only did he not do what they say, he in fact did the exact opposite... instead of harming the child in the worst way imaginable, he was attempting to save the child, by any means possible. I know that's melodramatic, but it's the truth, isn't it?
Some say Michael's suicidal, but his associates are saying he's in great spirits. He was all smiles and waves when he arrived today, and walked with a courageous stagger into the courtroom.
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More Pics:
(http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/us/0501/gallery.jackson.trial/gallery.security.pool.jpg)
I guess David Blaine taught Michael that little levitation trick he does. ^^^
(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/LAW/01/31/jackson.trial/top.1516.jackson.exit.pool.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20050131/capt.sge.gnl84.310105223359.photo00.photo.default-270x419.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/afp/20050131/capt.sge.glj43.310105170745.photo00.photo.default-251x384.jpg)
(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050131/i/r2953458754.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la13001312138.michael_jackson_la130.jpg)
(http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20050131/i/r2711622232.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la12801312126.michael_jackson_la128.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.tjs11501312114.michael_jackson_tjs115.jpg)
^ He looks like one of those Anime` character drawings you see in japanese cartoons.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la11601311908.michael_jackson_la116.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la11501311856.michael_jackson_la115.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la11301311847.michael_jackson_la113.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la10601311819.michael_jackson_la106.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.tjs10601311709.michael_jackson_tjs106.jpg)
^ I knew it! He moonwalks *ALL the time
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.tjs10301311608.michael_jackson_tjs103.jpg)
3 freaks: Michael's pretty freaky; the guy dressed up like him is even freakier, and the chick just might be the FREAK OF THE WEEK!!! WHOOOO!!!
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.tjs10401310134.michael_jackson__tjs104.jpg)
^ Believe it or not, much of black america claims Michael as their own, and feels he is being racially discriminated against. I can't believe how thin he looks, no shit he's lost 15 pounds since the last time he was on t.v. In case yall don't know, Michael's short, too... he's only about 5'8, remember how small he was in the Jackson 5? I always had the impression he was tall, but he's really a little guy.
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.tjs10701311715.michael_jackson_tjs107.jpg)
(http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20050131/capt.la10201311757.michael_jackson_la102.jpg)
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LOL @ believing Michael is innocent ;D
Yep I'd pay someone 25 million if I was innocent too :idea: and Michael is basically broke in debt.
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Hey trauma - its good to see a familiar name. While I am not nearly as supportive of mike as you are i will refrain from making judgements on him until the trial is done. I hope he is innocent. Hopefully it is fair trail but we'll see. If Mike is innocent I do feel sorry for him. But even if he is innocent I totally disagree with some of the things he does with children and hopefully he changes his ways if hes found innocent. If he is truly guilty it would be very sad. Sexual abuse of kids is probably the worst crime imagainable and is unforgivable. I doubt we'll ever know the truth though. ultimatelty mike will have to answer to God and face the consequences for his actions if he is truly guilty. either way this whole thing is very sad. Hope everything is going well for ya trauma - although i probably disagreed with you sometimes i appreciate your openness to all types of music, and not listening to only one type of music. always keep an open mind. peace.
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Biggest trial of all time? and #1 philanthropist in the world?
C'mon man. Even though I don't think it could out last the Lindbergh trial's longevity, keep in mind that there were no TVs back then, or the Scopes trial. There is no way the Jackson trial will be remembered like the Galileo trial, the Socrates trial and certainly no where near as remembered as the Jesus trial. He might get more notoriety than Manson, but no way is this the "biggest trial of all time".
Also; because he gives to the most charities doesn't make him the #1 philathropist. Bill Gates has given away more than Michael has ever made.
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^ Get the fuck out of this post; you're hateful, you're spiteful, and you have ill intent.
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^ Get the fuck out of this post; you're hateful, you're spiteful, and you have ill intent.
Ill intent? I said no bad words towards Michael and gave no opinions on what I thought really happened. I was merely calling you on your giddyness that leads you to over hype everything Jackson related.
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I dont have an opinion either way on whether or not he did it, because i havent seen any of the evidence. I highly doubt he will be given a fair trial, just as trauma said, people have already pre-judged him because he is famous. Most of the people i talk to believe he is a child molesterer for various reasons.
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man, it's gonna be a sad day if michael gets found guilty & goes to jail. he's facin somethin like 21 years in jail too. if he gets found not guilty, he needs to cut all the bullshit out about sleepin with kids etc and leave that shit alone
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i have no idea if hes guilty or not, but i do know he is one weird mother fucker!
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I'm not going to judge Michael, but I definately would like to give Trauma props for keeping us all up to date on this.
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I've been a MJ fan for as long as i can remember, so obviously i believe he is innocent. And if he is proven innocent i think he should quit putting himself in these dangerous situations like these sleepovers he has. I mean i believe nothing goes on, but still he should quit that shit and just concentrate on raising his children and making music.
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I hope Michael is innocent, yeah hes weird....weird looking too..but hey everyones weird in their own way..he may just be a lil or a lot more obvious
lets hope the best happens for him
either way, one of the best if not the best entertainer in music
lol @ everyone here likes at least one michael jackson song..its true
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one more thing, it still amazes me and its a trip how popularity and wealth can torment your life.....
i dont like p diddy or mase that much but they were right "mo money, mo problems"
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He should have stayed BAD...
fuck him now
he's a peice of garbage
let's learn to separate the man from the music
he suck's lil' kid's off
he's a peice of shitt.
bottom line
yeah he sing's PYT
but he fuck's lil' kid's
let's get it over with now
FUCK MJ
hatesrats 2oo0V
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He should have stayed BAD...
fuck him now
he's a peice of garbage
let's learn to separate the man from the music
he suck's lil' kid's off
he's a peice of shitt.
bottom line
yeah he sing's PYT
but he fuck's lil' kid's
let's get it over with now
FUCK MJ
hatesrats 2oo0V
since when did he get tried and made guilty?
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since when did he get tried and made guilty?
IHO(In his opinion) 8)
I agree with him too.
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traumas "freak of the week" is hot
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I guess not many people actually watched the video, but Michael says in the video That he let the family stay with him, and spend some time with him because he was led to believe that they need his help, and the child was dying of cancer. He then goes on to say that he intends to never put himself, his family, and his children in such a vulnerable position, ever again.
I really, really, really think we've got a case where you've got somebody with too much heart trying to save the world, fucking up, getting taken advantage of, and finally learning the world's a cold, cold place.
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Oh, and Quotes leaked out today from Michael's interview with Geraldo, scheduled to air Saturday night.
"The bigger the star, the bigger the target. I'm not trying to say I'm the super-duper star, I'm not saying that, I'm saying the fact that people come at celebrities, we're targets. But truth always prevails. I believe in that."
"I created Neverland as a home for myself and my children ... it gave me a chance to do what I couldn't do when I was little. We couldn't go to movie theaters. We couldn't go to Disneyland. We couldn't do all those fun things. We were on tour. We were working hard. And we did enjoy it, but this allowed me to have a place behind the gates where the entire world I love is there ... other men have their Ferraris and their airplanes or helicopter or wherever they find their bliss. My bliss is in giving and sharing and having simple innocent fun."
Jackson said Neverland also provides a happy place for inner-city children "who haven't seen the mountains, who haven't been on a carousel, who haven't pet a horse or a llama."
"So if I can open my gates and see that bliss, an explosion of screaming laughter from the children and they run on the rides, I say thank you God. I feel I won God's smile of approval, because I'm doing something that brings joy and happiness to other people."
Jackson said he had always admired "Mr. Eminem," but thought the rapper should be ashamed.
"I've been an artist most of my life and I've never attacked a fellow artist," Jackson said. "Great artists don't do that. You don't have to do that."
About Janet's Wardrobe Malfunction:
"Actually, I was looking right at it and I didn't see it ... (I told her to) be strong. This too shall pass. Don't worry about it. I've seen worse things."
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(http://www.foxnews.com/images/152263/1_21_rivera_jackson_450.jpg)
He also apparently said no more kids at Neverland. Kinda sad in a way, lol.
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I really, really, really think we've got a case where you've got somebody with too much heart trying to save the world, fucking up, getting taken advantage of, and finally learning the world's a cold, cold place.
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man imagine if mj was sent to jail.....he'd get torn apart in there
peace
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the sad thing is no one gives a shit about the kid. To Jacko fans its not true at all, even if they had vidoe of michael fucking little boys they would act like its not big deal. And to all the people that think hes guilty, they just want to see him found guilty b/c they just want to see him go in prison b/c they think it would be funny. They dont care if jacko really touched up on little boys. I personally thing Jacko is guilty.
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^ dope avatar and sig
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I believe MJ is innocent and i hope the trial proves this.
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nice sig how do i get pics in there please some one help i think my shit looks plain and dumd with none and i can. step by step ill try right now though
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Nah. It's cool to not have pictures in your signature, like me. I would never do that shit, damn posers.