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Title: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 02, 2005, 04:54:39 PM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.
Mac Minista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big Pimpin Delemond (its not even close)
Knocturnal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game
Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound
Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Que (signing off) on February 02, 2005, 05:26:16 PM
Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound

I like Quiks laid back vibe, for the summertime approach to that B&A CD.


Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem

Big Tray Deee is one of the best period.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 02, 2005, 05:49:55 PM


Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem

Big Tray Deee is one of the best period.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 02, 2005, 06:05:14 PM
Mase is one of the top 10 ever

DJ Quik's beats > Dr. Dre's

"All Eyez On Me" was a weak album overall

Ali Vegas = best NY rapper EVER

"Ready 2 Die" sucks

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: BL7 on February 02, 2005, 06:57:07 PM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.
Mac Minista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big Pimpin Delemond (its not even close)
Knocturnal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game
Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound
Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem


Those opinions aren't crazy at all. The only one I disagree with is Mac Minista being better than Big Pimpin.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Thuglife on February 02, 2005, 07:04:02 PM
Insert Quote
Mase is one of the top 10 ever

DJ Quik's beats > Dr. Dre's

"All Eyez On Me" was a weak album overall

Ali Vegas = best NY rapper EVER

"Ready 2 Die" sucks


That is blasphemy ur a shame to hip hop
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: shifter on February 02, 2005, 07:15:06 PM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.
Mac Minista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big Pimpin Delemond (its not even close)
Knocturnal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game
Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound
Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem


Well there you go. We agree on nothing!
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Suga Foot on February 02, 2005, 07:40:39 PM
Tech you are crazy! lol
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: D1G1T4L on February 02, 2005, 08:16:34 PM
how they hell can you say all eyez on me is a weak effort? they put so much work into it and every track sounds tight


maybe it got overplayed for you but in no way this is a weak effort, it's considered a classic
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on February 02, 2005, 10:31:50 PM
wow what a past couple of days it has been first i see that people are shitting on doggfood and now someone is saying all eyez on me was weak.

nobody posts that shit to be serious they just trying to get a reaction because there is no way that anyone that posts on these forums thinks that all eyez on me is weak.

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 02, 2005, 10:49:47 PM
Mase is one of the top 10 ever

DJ Quik's beats > Dr. Dre's

"All Eyez On Me" was a weak album overall

Ali Vegas = best NY rapper EVER

"Ready 2 Die" sucks



Its one thing to have a different opinion....its a completely nother thing to have BAD taste. And you my friend, have bad taste.

Not trying to start shit, but anyone who has Mase as one of their top rappers but thinks AEOM is a weak album has poor taste. Thats all there is to it. Sorry.

AEOM is a classic, no need to get into why.....pretty much anyone on this forum knows the massive impact that album had on hip hop culture as a whole. Its not my fav album ever, but the amount of trends and standards it set is almost endless. Today's rappers only dream of making an album like this (a deluxe street album that STILL maintains hip hop respect).

And RTD sucks?? I think Biggie is extremely overrated but you cant front on RTD....its an east coast classic.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: W-Side on February 03, 2005, 04:27:26 AM
^^it's one thing to be a hardcore fan, it's another thing to have an artist's dick DEEP down one's throat

AEOM massive impact on hiphop culture ? please, the biggest impact this album had is the weak imitations that try to be sucessful by acting like pac. HipHop music before that album dropped >>>>>>>>>>> HipHop music after that album dropped (not saying it's Pac's fault of course but it proves that he didn't have too much positive impact on the game), and the other elements of hiphop haven't been changed a bit by that album.


as for Tray Deee >>> Eminem, that's not crazy, it depends on what you more into, Tray Deee is one of the very greatest gangsta emcees ever. Em is more skilled but that doesn't mean he's the better artist, they too different and on a too similar level (on what they doin) to tell who's better
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on February 03, 2005, 04:40:06 AM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.




ahahahhahah!!!! but true.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 03, 2005, 07:08:42 AM
Mase is one of the top 10 ever

DJ Quik's beats > Dr. Dre's

"All Eyez On Me" was a weak album overall

Ali Vegas = best NY rapper EVER

"Ready 2 Die" sucks
Danm!! homie u must have been smokin' some of that sticky wit' me when u wrote that...lol
that's hip-hop blasphamy bro, but I respect your opinion.

I defo agree, (again opinion) Tha Q has the best beat's in hip-hop.
but the other comment's homie, all I can do is respect you for speakin your mind.
but danm!!!  :-\

but Ma$e....
Hatesrats 2oo0V
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 09:20:11 AM
Warren G - Regulate is an below average to average album...






Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on February 03, 2005, 09:20:27 AM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.
Mac Minista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big Pimpin Delemond (its not even close)
Knocturnal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game
Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound
Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem


I don't agree with any of those
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 09:44:42 AM
Warren G - Regulate is an below average to average album...








Explain this motherfucker

Regulate
So Many Ways
Super Soul Sis
This DJ
Do You See
This is the shack
respect

^ are all damn near classics!?!?!?
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 10:29:00 AM
Well Regulate is a classic fa sho 5/5

So many ways - shits mellow and laid back but warrens lyrics arent great - 3/5

Super Soul Sis - That bitch is anoyying and she sucks. beat is good tho - 2.5/5

This DJ - Second best song on the album - 4.5/5

This the Shack - I dont like the Dove Shack  beat is good tho - 3/5

Respect - WTF is this song

Reconize - beat is average but the lyircs are good  - 3/5

Do You see - good lyrics by warren g and beat 3rd best song - 4/5

Runnin wit no breaks - beat is nothing special but warren g has som decent lyrics 3/5

And ya dont stop - Nothing at all special. But listenable...2.5/5

Whats next - avearge song. Beat is decent. Lyrics arent too great but cool . 3/5

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 03, 2005, 10:31:56 AM


And ya dont stop - Nothing at all special. But listenable...2.5/5




holy shit are you out your mind?  that song is sooooooo dope!  amazing beat, and warren's flow is maybe his best ever on that song.  5/5 song for me.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 10:44:29 AM


And ya dont stop - Nothing at all special. But listenable...2.5/5




holy shit are you out your mind?  that song is sooooooo dope!  amazing beat, and warren's flow is maybe his best ever on that song.  5/5 song for me.

yeah, i havent listened to this album in ages so i think im not being fair on my rating.

Im gunna listen to that shit again today.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Of L.A. on February 03, 2005, 10:54:09 AM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best.  i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 10:59:38 AM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best.  i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

Name a rapper better than Tray Deee
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2005, 11:00:14 AM
uh....


Quik looks straight homo on the cover for rhythmalism....... lol... love the album itself though :)
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 03, 2005, 11:01:12 AM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best. i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

look at this lil butthurt 14 year old fag.  what the fuck does the bay have to do with anything in this thread?  you still butthurt bout how I schooled you on some real rap shit in that thread?  and yes I do feel tray deee is the best, you don't think so, good for you, I don't give a shit what you think. 

anyways

the 12 inch sausage Addicted to Beef dreams about >>>>>> Addicted to Beef (and we ain't talkin bout rap beef)
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 11:01:57 AM
i went thru hell tryin to push that album on my boyz, half of em refused to listen to a cd with that cover



btw, Safe and Sounds cover is sikkkkk
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 11:05:22 AM
Safe + Sound cover is a sick cover(inside and outside) with Quik wearing a Penedlton shirt and P on his crown for Piru...straight Gangsta


lol..at Rythm-al-ism cover....Quik was just like that cuz he learned how to be fly from top dogg..lol
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Of L.A. on February 03, 2005, 11:26:17 AM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best.  i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

Name a rapper better than Tray Deee

are u serious?

Rakim
KRS One
Ras Kass
Nas' bitch ass
Jay-Z
Ice Cube
E-40
Crooked I

i could keep on going by why bother. Tray Deee is average.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Of L.A. on February 03, 2005, 11:30:55 AM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best. i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

look at this lil butthurt 14 year old fag.  what the fuck does the bay have to do with anything in this thread?  you still butthurt bout how I schooled you on some real rap shit in that thread?  and yes I do feel tray deee is the best, you don't think so, good for you, I don't give a shit what you think. 

anyways

the 12 inch sausage Addicted to Beef dreams about >>>>>> Addicted to Beef (and we ain't talkin bout rap beef)

lmao @ u catching feelins online. u need to logg off if what i say is affecting your life that bad. read the thread you retarded piece of shit

" Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?"

So Cal >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bay Existence.

The Truth Hurts and everyone knows it.  You sat your fat ass at your computer and started crying again. what else is new white boy?
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Juronimo on February 03, 2005, 11:47:25 AM
I cant explain it, really I cant. But I think:

Fuck Dre >>>> Forgot About Dre.

Are you talking about Fuck with Dre Day? If you are, I agree whole heartedly.

Mac Minista >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Big Pimpin Delemond (its not even close)

I have to disagree with you here. What Would You Do and Big Pimpin were the shit. I like Mac Ministas verse on "Down with us" but other than that I  can take it or leave it.

Knocturnal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game

I agree. Knoc has more flavor.

Balance and Options >>>>>>Safe and Sound

Balance and Options is my favorite DJ Quik album so I agree. Change the Game!!!

Tray Deeee>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eminem

They're both on the same level in my mind, they both have that multisyllable flow but with that shitty Encore album, Eminem has kind of dropped in my esteem. I can't think of a wack Tray Deee verse to save my life, but Eminem has had a few of his own. The Slim Shady LP is a lyrical masterpiece.

That's a tough one, I can't really say who's better. They're both the best at what they do.


Here are some of mine.

Big Boi >>> Andre 3000. Andre started off as the better emcee but Big Boi eclipsed him by the time Aquemini came out.
Stillmatic is Nas's best album, followed by the Lost Tapes.
Ready to Die is overrated. Mobb Deep's The Infamous and Raykwon's Cuban Linx are better albums.
Reasonable Doubt is an average album, 3 mics, highly overrated.
Mos Def's Black on Both sides is 3 mics tops, also overrated.
I don't like MOP or Kool G Rap.
De La Soul's Bahloone Mind State may be one of the best hip hop albums ever recorded and is about 20 years ahead of its time.
Gangstarr's Hard to Earn is unlistenable.
I think Kelly is hotter than Beyonce.

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i went thru hell tryin to push that album on my boyz, half of em refused to listen to a cd with that cover

Haha for real though. I hesitated in buying the album because of that cover, it's gay as fuck. I eventually bought the album used a year after it dropped and what can I say, I would have missed out big time if I let that cover keep me from buying the album. I guess Quik was trying to veer so far from the gangsta image that maybe he veered a little too far.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 03, 2005, 12:02:51 PM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best. i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

look at this lil butthurt 14 year old fag. what the fuck does the bay have to do with anything in this thread? you still butthurt bout how I schooled you on some real rap shit in that thread? and yes I do feel tray deee is the best, you don't think so, good for you, I don't give a shit what you think.

anyways

the 12 inch sausage Addicted to Beef dreams about >>>>>> Addicted to Beef (and we ain't talkin bout rap beef)

lmao @ u catching feelins online. u need to logg off if what i say is affecting your life that bad. read the thread you retarded piece of shit

" Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?"

So Cal >>>>>>>>>>>> The Bay Existence.

The Truth Hurts and everyone knows it. You sat your fat ass at your computer and started crying again. what else is new white boy?

uhh whats so crazy about that opinion dumbass?  practically everybody on this board has that opinion, so how the fuck is it crazy?  your just a sad lil kid.  maybe you are the one "catching feelings", I don't have to continuesly say one area of rap is better than another.  I like what I like, and don't care what other people like or think.  I just think your a dumb lil kid, and I'm just lettin you know it.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 03, 2005, 12:27:40 PM
^^it's one thing to be a hardcore fan, it's another thing to have an artist's dick DEEP down one's throat

AEOM massive impact on hiphop culture ? please, the biggest impact this album had is the weak imitations that try to be sucessful by acting like pac. HipHop music before that album dropped >>>>>>>>>>> HipHop music after that album dropped (not saying it's Pac's fault of course but it proves that he didn't have too much positive impact on the game), and the other elements of hiphop haven't been changed a bit by that album.



You mean kinda like how my dick is deep down your throat??

LMAO at you. You musta just started listening to rap in 2000 or something, otherwise you would know that AEOM is the blueprint for how a mainstream album is made today. Pac made it ok for a gangsta rapper to sell 8 million+ without being dismissed as the next MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice. The sheer versatility of the album has made it the industry standard.

But you wouldnt know anything about that, get your non-knowin ass outta here and get off my dick The only thing your posts are good for are those fine ass pics of Jessica, and I can view those elsewhere, so basically you aint good for shit.

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Lil Jay on February 03, 2005, 12:29:28 PM
The Chronic has some average tracks.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2005, 12:42:13 PM

U know.. i just wanna say one quick thing..

I used to feel the same way about Ready To Die.. i tried a few times and couldnt 'get it'.. then 6 months later i came back.. and (skipping the intro) i think the first 6 tracks are heat... esp. Machine Gun Funk and the title track itself... not too keen on the rest of the album though.

which reminds me... i can't stand "Reasonable Doubt"  :o
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Larrabee on February 03, 2005, 12:49:13 PM
Niggaz4Life = The Chronic ( in terms of production )
Doggystyle is better than The Chronic ( not by much though )
Biggie's verse on "Runnin" is a bit iller than 2Pac's
Dre's best beat in the last 2 years = "G'd Up"
Knoc-Turn'al's "The Way I Am" is a solid album all around
Nate Dogg's dopest performance = Nobody Does It Better \ Regulate ( tie )
Bitch Please, Just Dippin, and Chin Check should've been on Chronic 2001
Light Speed, Let's Get High, Ackrite should've been cut, ONLY to make room for those 3 tracks mentioned above
Detox should have no more than 12 tracks
California Love Remix has a slightly better beat than the OG version
Gz Up Hoes Down = the smoothest song from Doggystyle
Greatest instrumenal of all-time = Still D.R.E.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: dexter on February 03, 2005, 12:50:29 PM
Quic=Overrated
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 12:56:20 PM

Dre's best beat in the last 2 years = "G'd Up"

BattleCat produced that shit...


Snoop is overated in the DoggyStyle album.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2005, 12:56:35 PM
Niggaz4Life = The Chronic ( in terms of production )

yeah they closely related..

Gz Up Hoes Down = the smoothest song from Doggystyle

u know its a pretty huge sample tho..



Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 03, 2005, 01:03:05 PM
^ What thats not on my doggystyle? Which song is that ???
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: dexter on February 03, 2005, 01:18:27 PM
^^Dont worry cause Snoop is overrated on Doggystyle
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Don Seer on February 03, 2005, 01:34:04 PM
lol......... its on the original version before it got pulled for that isaac hayes sample

we refer to it as "doggystyle OG"
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: W-Side on February 03, 2005, 01:39:10 PM
^^it's one thing to be a hardcore fan, it's another thing to have an artist's dick DEEP down one's throat

AEOM massive impact on hiphop culture ? please, the biggest impact this album had is the weak imitations that try to be sucessful by acting like pac. HipHop music before that album dropped >>>>>>>>>>> HipHop music after that album dropped (not saying it's Pac's fault of course but it proves that he didn't have too much positive impact on the game), and the other elements of hiphop haven't been changed a bit by that album.



You mean kinda like how my dick is deep down your throat??

LMAO at you. You musta just started listening to rap in 2000 or something, otherwise you would know that AEOM is the blueprint for how a mainstream album is made today. Pac made it ok for a gangsta rapper to sell 8 million+ without being dismissed as the next MC Hammer or Vanilla Ice. The sheer versatility of the album has made it the industry standard.

But you wouldnt know anything about that, get your non-knowin ass outta here and get off my dick The only thing your posts are good for are those fine ass pics of Jessica, and I can view those elsewhere, so basically you aint good for shit.
I dunno why you talkn about your dick being in another mans throat for no reason but oh well

you practically just admitted I'm right by making a 'reply' that didn't reply to any of the points I brang up.
I can't blame you for not coming up with an answer to the question how it's possible that AEOM had such a great impact on HipHop when HipHop has become weaker eversince cause there is no answer to that.. the lame part about it is that you can't admit it.

Today's average mainstream album is rather weak, if that's what AEOM achieved.. congrats

oh and it's been "ok" for a gansta rapper to sell much, why wouldn't it ? Snoop did, Dre did, whether it's 4 or 8 mill, the reason vanilla ice and hammer are looked upon as patetic characters is that they are, not that they sold alot. Take a look at Vanilla Ice and tell me how you gonna expect a guy like that to be respected by hiphopers.

You dismissed yourself by talkin about hiphop as aculture being heavily influenced by that album, that's the comment of a certified nutlicker who doesn't know shit about HipHop, you probably couldn't name it's other elements wihout looking them up, so let's hope you have not been "into" HipHop for a long time cause the longer it is the sadder you are.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Larrabee on February 03, 2005, 01:40:43 PM

Dre's best beat in the last 2 years = "G'd Up"

BattleCat produced that shit...


Snoop is overated in the DoggyStyle album.

Nah, not that G'd Up, I'm talking about the G-Unit track. Oh, yea thats true about the sample on Gz Up Hoes Down, but Dre took it to the next level, just speeding it up, tweaking the drums a bit, the bass is a little thicker...and the flutes sound more melodic for some reason.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 03, 2005, 01:47:07 PM
Some of yall just too in love with 2Pac to say anything you feel is negative about him. "All Eyez On Me" had some bangers no doubt, but out of 2 disc only a hand full of tracks were all that good. That album had hella fillers (ex: "Whats Yo Phone Number"). And majority of the 2nd disc is skippers.

"Me Against the World" and "The 7 Day Theory" was waaaaay better.

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Captain Save A HO on February 03, 2005, 01:48:06 PM
lmao @ Tray Deee being one of the best.  i know u guys feel sorry for him but lets not get carried away.

anyways

Southern Cali Hip Hop > The Bay's Existence. thats all i gotta say.

Name a rapper better than Tray Deee
ice cube
nas
mc ren
crooked i
jay-z
big L
biggie
kurupt
rakim
krs-one
cormega
mobb deep
any1 in bone thugs
any1 in wu tang cept capadonna
masta ace
scarface
andre 3000
dj quik
tragedy kadafi
pharoe monch
2PAC
any1 in boot camp cliq
bad azz
mr cheeks of the lost boyz
slick rick
kool g rap
big daddy kane
xzibit
blahzay blahzay
tash
redman
sly boogie
talib
big noyd
jadakiss
styles P
kill cam'ron, not the new cam
the doc
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 03, 2005, 02:16:52 PM
Some of yall just too in love with 2Pac to say anything you feel is negative about him. "All Eyez On Me" had some bangers no doubt, but out of 2 disc only a hand full of tracks were all that good. That album had hella fillers (ex: "Whats Yo Phone Number"). And majority of the 2nd disc is skippers.

"Me Against the World" and "The 7 Day Theory" was waaaaay better.



besides "Whatz Ya Phone" and maybe 2 or 3 other songs, where are these "fillers"?? Name them.


Disc 1

1. Ambitionz az A Ridah - 5/5
2. All About U - 4/5
3. Skandolouz - 4.5/5
4. Got My Mind Made Up - 5/5
5. How Do U Want It - 4/5
6. 2 of Amerikaz Most Wanted - 5/5
7. No More Pain - 5/5
8. Heartz Of Men - 5/5
9. Life Goes On - 5/5
10. Only God Can Judge Me - 5/5
11. Tradin War Stories - 4.5/5
12. Cali Love - 4.5/5
13. I Aint Mad At Cha - 5/5
14. Whatz Ya Phone # - 1/5

Disc 2

1. Cant C Me - 5/5
2. Shorty Wanna Be a Thug - 5/5
3. Holla At Me - 5/5
4. Wonder Why they Call U Bitch - 5/5
5. When We Ride - 4/5
6. Thug Passion - 3.5/5
7. Picture me Rollin - 4/5
8. Check Out Time - 2.5/5
9. Ratha be Ya Nigga - 4/5
10. All Eyez On Me - 5/5
11. Run Tha Streetz - 3/5
12. Aint Hard 2 Find - 2/5
13. Heaven Aint Hard 2 Find - 4.5/5

pretty solid if you ask me.....out of 27 songs, I only skip like 3. Classic album, nuff said.


I do agree with you about MATW and 7 Day Theory being better though. 7 Day Theory is my fav album ever.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 05:43:16 PM
ice cube- No
nas- Yes
mc ren- No
crooked i- Yes
jay-z- No
big L- Dead
biggie- Dead
kurupt- Fuck no
rakim- no
krs-one- No
cormega- no
mobb deep- fuck no
any1 in bone thugs- no
any1 in wu tang cept capadonna- no
masta ace- no
scarface- no
andre 3000- not a rapper
dj quik- no
tragedy kadaf- noi
pharoe monch- yes
2PAC- dead
any1 in boot camp cliq- no
bad azz- no
mr cheeks of the lost boyz- lol
slick rick- no
kool g rap- no
big daddy kane- no
xzibit- no
blahzay blahzay- lol
tash- yes
redman- no
sly boogie- no
talib- no
big noyd- no
jadakiss- no
styles P- lol
kill cam'ron, not the new cam- new, old, horse or carriage = No
the doc- no voice

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 05:44:09 PM
All Eyez on Me is my fav cd ever.

3 skippables MAX

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 03, 2005, 06:23:24 PM


3 skippables MAX



true story there.

These kiddies today have no idea the impact that album had (and still has). Even when you listen to cats like 50 and Game.....you can tell they were very influenced from AEOM.

What made AEOM huge was the fact Pac made a double cd set (the first of its kind) who's sheer scope and versatility became an achievment in itself. He hit from all angles, as the album has really every type of track imaginable: club bangers (How Do U Want It, Thug Passion, All About U, Cali Love, etc), raw thugged out songs (Ambitionz, Cant C Me, No More Pain), songs for the ladies (Ratha be Ya Nigga, Heaven Aint Hard 2 Find), deeper and more intropsective songs (Life Goes On, I Aint Mad At Cha, Only God Can Judge Me), concept songs (Got My Mind Made Up, When We Ride, Tradin War Stories), and various classic collaberations (Got My Mind Made Up, 2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted, Cali Love, etc)......

AEOM isnt the BEST rap album ever, but its definatly top 10......and at the very least, it is the most COMPLETE rap album ever made. This is the album every mainstream rapper today wants to make. An album with songs that will get rotation in the clubs but still have hot grimey cuts for the street cats, yet at the same time an album that will be marketable to the masses while STILL maintaining hip hop respect......it was really the first album to accomplish all this. Yea, Snoop sold 5 million with Doggystyle before AEOM even came out, but it didnt have the scope or all around versatility that Pac's double cd did (though part of that has to do with that Snoop is very one-dimensional compared to Pac). I was there to see both albums get released, and honestly, AEOM blew up faster than Doggystyle did. And I aint saying to be biased towards Pac....Doggystyle is one of my top 5 fav albums ever, probably just ahead of Eyez overall. But Pac's album was unreal when it came out. Snoop sold his 5 mill over some time.....Pac did those numbers in less then 2 months!! Then everyone and their momma started making double cd's after he did it.

Now, whether the impact of this album is good or bad is up for the listener to decide. Some people think the album had a negative impact on hip hop, and maybe it did....but you cant really blame Pac for that. You can only blame him for setting a standard and then all these other rappers trying to copy him instead of doing there own thing. So, it aint really his fault. Its all these other rappers trying to run with his formula  instead of coming with their own flavor.

Pac knew he needed to make an album like this. He had just got out of prison, and all eyes were literally on him. He signed to the biggest label in the industry, and since his previous album had gone #1, it was like mixing brimstone with fire. He needed to drop a career defining album that would change the game up and set his name in stone as a legend, because he knew he only had so much time left. And this was the album that did it, even if it isnt his best album.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on February 03, 2005, 06:27:08 PM
Run the Streets, Thug Passion, Whats ya Phone Number, thats it.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Captain Save A HO on February 03, 2005, 07:23:41 PM
ice cube- No - Yes, unless tray drops a album touching cubes first 2 then try and say tray is better
nas- Yes
mc ren- No
crooked i- Yes
jay-z- No
big L- Dead - so what... freestyling this line off the dome "ask beavis i get nothing but head" >>> tray dee's life
biggie- Dead... so what, still twice the rapper tray dee is
kurupt- Fuck no - 92-96 kurupt one of the best to ever do it and tray is no where near that
rakim- no - changed the game... what has tray done to do that
krs-one- No...YES
cormega- no.... YES
mobb deep- fuck no... 2 classics one near classic vs tray's one near classic
any1 in bone thugs- no... 2classics, one great album, vs trays one near classic
any1 in wu tang cept capadonna- no... yes
masta ace- no... been putting it down since 88 arguement can be made hes the most consitant to ever do it.
scarface- no..... just the king of the south... dont hear anyone calling tray that
andre 3000- not a rapper.... so he changes up for album even tho he has 2 classics dont make him a rapper anymore
dj quik- no.... hmmm i'll give you this one, but tray doesnt havent material touching quiks stuff
tragedy kadaf- noi...
pharoe monch- yes
2PAC- dead.... the GOAT
any1 in boot camp cliq- no.... enta da stage and dah shinnin, the eastsidaz first album aint touching this one
bad azz- no
mr cheeks of the lost boyz- lol
slick rick- no.... man changed the game, greatest story teller of all time
kool g rap- no.... LMFAO noo what do you mean no
big daddy kane- no... same as kool g rap
xzibit- no
blahzay blahzay- lol
tash- yes
redman- no
sly boogie- no
talib- no.. .give you this one, talib is better but his damn voice annoys me
big noyd- no
jadakiss- no... i'll give you this one too b/c jada doesnt live up to his potential on solo albums
styles P- lol... give you this one its push cuz i liek em both about the same
kill cam'ron, not the new cam- new, old, horse or carriage = No
the doc- no voice

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on February 03, 2005, 07:33:23 PM
All of 2Pac albums are classic
Daz is a shitty rapper

Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Eddie G. on February 03, 2005, 07:42:44 PM
Am I the only one thinking "Whatz Ya Phone #" is the shit?
I guess that's my contribution to the thread.
Also, Knocturnal the titest (besides Crooked I) new rapper from the West, and "The Way I Am" is a great CD.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: music is like magic on February 03, 2005, 08:53:08 PM
Mase is one of the top 10 ever

DJ Quik's beats > Dr. Dre's

"All Eyez On Me" was a weak album overall

Ali Vegas = best NY rapper EVER

"Ready 2 Die" sucks


fuck that shit bad motherfucking taste in musicc Dre beats are like in different mode then quik do disrespect i like quik but he is dj'ing for game while dre is beat making though the beat for truth hurts was the siccest beat in a while.  ali who? try Nasir he is more intellectual then ali and ready to die did suck props for that but you should be slapped witha dick in the mouth for dissing Pac AEOM was the best it still iz to me the original "Documentry" the original Blueprint and so on and so forth.oh yeah and mase fuckin sucks MASE :monkey_piss:
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 03, 2005, 08:59:30 PM
All of 2Pac albums are classic
Daz is a shitty rapper



Im like one of the biggest Pac fans ever, but even I admit that not all his albums are classic. All the ones he put out ALIVE (2Pacalpyse Now to Makaveli) are classic, but his only arguable classic posthumous album was R U Still Down.....Still I Rise was good, but definatly not classic. UTEOT and Better Dayz COULD have been classics if they were released as originals. LTTG and Nu Mixx Klazzics were fucking wack.

2Pacalypse Now - 4.5/5
Strictly 4 My NIGGAZ - 4.5/5
Thug Life Vol.1 - 4/5
MATW - 5/5
AEOM - 5/5
7 Day Theory - 6/5 (g.o.a.t. album ever)
RUSD - 4.5/5
Still I Rise - 4/5
UTEOT - 2/5 (original album is a 4.5/5)
Better Dayz - 3/5
Resurrection OST - 4/5
Loyal To the Game - 1.5/5
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: M Dogg™ on February 03, 2005, 09:27:33 PM
My crazy ass opinions.

Eminem is one of the top 15 rappers of all time.

Bizzy Bone could have, and should have been the break out star of the late 90's.

Ice Cube is honestly a greater rapper than Common, and if there wasn't all the peace talks, Cube's next dissed would have been No Vaseline 2 to Common and killed all these people that say Common is better than Cube.

The death of the westcoast was not 2Pac's death, or Suge Knight being sent to jail, or even Snoop leaving to No Limit, but it was Mack 10, WC, Xzibit and Ras Kass putting out albums that flopped sales wise in 1998.

Xzibit will release Criminal Set and be mentioned by true westcoast heads as the uncrowned King of the West.

An Xzibit/Game battle, if guns are kept out, will bring back the west like no other battle could.

Sly Boogie is the next break out star in the mainstream from the west, excluding Black Wall Street and Strong Arm Steady. Reppin' Californ-I-E muthaphukka'z
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: ImmortalOne on February 03, 2005, 09:46:29 PM
Why does Game got beef with Xzibit or vice versa?
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Machiavelli on February 04, 2005, 04:56:02 AM
Alll Eyez on Me is classic. Everyone knows that.


There are 3 below average songs on their.

Whatz Ya Phone # 4/10

Check out time  5/10


Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: music is like magic on February 04, 2005, 11:31:37 AM
Alll Eyez on Me is classic. Everyone knows that.


There are 3 below average songs on their.

Whatz Ya Phone # 4/10

Check out time  5/10



u said three and only named two but any way what album that is classic dont have those fillers and still bump i like whatz your phone # and check out time ain't bad but compared to the album yeah fillers aeom is still goat.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on February 04, 2005, 03:24:37 PM

Here are some of mine.

Stillmatic is Nas's best album, followed by the Lost Tapes.
Ready to Die is overrated. Mobb Deep's The Infamous and Raykwon's Cuban Linx are better albums.
Reasonable Doubt is an average album, 3 mics, highly overrated.
Mos Def's Black on Both sides is 3 mics tops, also overrated.
I don't like MOP or Kool G Rap.
De La Soul's Bahloone Mind State may be one of the best hip hop albums ever recorded and is about 20 years ahead of its time.
Gangstarr's Hard to Earn is unlistenable.
I think Kelly is hotter than Beyonce.


Stillmatic is Nas's best album, followed by the Lost Tapes.

Um, Illmatic!

Ready to Die is overrated. Mobb Deep's The Infamous and Raykwon's Cuban Linx are better albums.

Has everyone who is saying Ready To Die is overrated actually listened to it? Apart from the annoying sex, and coughing skits the album is dope from start to finish. The Infamous and Cuban Linx are better albums in my opinion as well, but to call Ready To Die overrated would be wrong in my opinion.

Reasonable Doubt is an average album, 3 mics, highly overrated.

I don't think it's a classic, but its at least 4/5.

Mos Def's Black on Both sides is 3 mics tops, also overrated.

What u been puffing on today man, BOBS is for me a classic just cause Mos is one of my favourite artists, but even looking at it objectively its at least a 4/5 album.

I don't like MOP or Kool G Rap.

I can see why people say that, but MOP + Premier = classic hiphop tracks, and he does a lot of production for them, + Kool G Rap is a pioneer.

De La Soul's Bahloone Mind State may be one of the best hip hop albums ever recorded and is about 20 years ahead of its time.

3 Feet High & Rising is better, but I do agree that album is far ahead of its time.

Gangstarr's Hard to Earn is unlistenable.

Really? Are you just kidding on this one? For me Hard to Earn is Gangstarr's best album, Premier at his best, and Guru drops dopeness throughout the whole album.

I think Kelly is hotter than Beyonce.

I do agree on this one I think she is more beautiful than Beyonce.
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Mac 10 † on February 04, 2005, 03:47:18 PM
Call me crazy but imo

2Pac >>> Lil' Romeo

imo!!
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: Hatesrats™ on February 04, 2005, 03:50:33 PM
Am I the only one thinking "Whatz Ya Phone #" is the shit?

Nah homie...
That "777-9311" sample of the Time's classic is whoa!!!!
yo, I always appreciated how big of a fan Pac was of the entire Prince vibe.

So yo, I love that joint & I wonder the same thing u do bro.
Why do peep's hate on this track.....

shit everytime I set some pussy up on the phone I'm thinkin' bout this track
ex: when Pac is laughing at the end...lmao

"I'm gonna get some pussy ni**a....(insert one of a kind Pac laugh)"....lol

I love that shit...
Hatesrats 2oo0V
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: D1G1T4L on February 04, 2005, 05:36:15 PM
Am I the only one thinking "Whatz Ya Phone #" is the shit?
I guess that's my contribution to the thread.
Also, Knocturnal the titest (besides Crooked I) new rapper from the West, and "The Way I Am" is a great CD.

i agree with all ur points
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: music is like magic on February 04, 2005, 10:14:56 PM
hear iare my opinions on some artists Tech n9ne eminem project pat and ice cube are the best rappers ever no order and P.I.G was overrated gay -z overrated more then 60% percent of rap on the east coast is overratted and why the fuck no Brotha Lynch fans Doomsday they are real motherfuckers 8) sup with lil wyte most unde ratted artist this year and and with out 50 cent running his fucking mouth g-unit would be a real gang.  and fuck ja rule yayo served his ass on bump heads i think that is wha tdid it for ja he was like oh shit i can tbeat the whole unit but yayo killed me so ill go back to r&b. more shit just my hands hurt
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: music is like magic on February 04, 2005, 10:16:21 PM
opps that was only four bu tthe other is pac makaveli or tupac what ever he was the shit and still is
Title: Re: Crazy opinions that no one else is crazy enough to have except me?
Post by: D1G1T4L on February 05, 2005, 04:41:06 PM
music is like magic
how old are you?