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Title: Murs
Post by: white Boy on February 05, 2005, 09:08:39 AM
Yea, so i listened to murs' album "3:16 the 9th edition" before, but it was only yesterday that i LISTENED to it.. its such a dope album, production is just amazing, his lyrics are great too, i love how his topic matter is all around.. i can relate to a lot of stuff, but bothered me

btw i know there was a thread on this, but o well

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Now you could be down, but let's act growed up
Cause we ain't the same color when police show up
::) .. what a hipocritical statement.. he should be the 1 to grow up, i live in a 80% white area, cops dont give a fuck if u white or black, your getting arrested if you break the law,.. cops dont let white poeple go, black poeple, get over it, your not being opressed any more...

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What's the reason that my album doesn't sell like his?
And don't front like you don't why the hell that is
It's because he's white, you can relate to his face
Through the years you've been taught that Black is unsafe
Plus it's only natural for your own to be embraced
Conscious or subconscious you can't say that ain't the case
Only reason it took so long to take place
Was up until now your only choice was 3rd Bass
Or others like Ice, wasn't really that tight
Now you got some white dudes who can truly rock the mic
You relate to their stories cause you share that past
Question is, why would you listen to MURS' Black ass?

why does he make such a big deal abou the differences between whites and black, WE ARE NOT THAT DIFFERENT, its just a skin color... like i relate to most of his songs.. like some, exactly what he said is some shit im going through..

just my thoughts, btw, any other dope murs shit i should get?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Theodore on February 05, 2005, 10:03:07 AM


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Now you could be down, but let's act growed up
Cause we ain't the same color when police show up
::) .. what a hipocritical statement.. he should be the 1 to grow up, i live in a 80% white area, cops dont give a fuck if u white or black, your getting arrested if you break the law,.. cops dont let white poeple go, black poeple, get over it, your not being opressed any more...
c'mon, you know thats not true

other dope murs is his lp on def jux, his lp with slug, and good music, varsity blues is good too
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Twentytwofifty on February 05, 2005, 10:09:32 AM
Murs 3:16 The 9th Edition is great but I heard one of his other albums and it sure as hell wasn't. 
He's borderline nerd rap as far as I'm concerned and he comes off as a white guy trapped in a black guy's body.  That's why I thought that song is pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Theodore on February 05, 2005, 10:17:04 AM
he comes off as a white guy trapped in a black guy's body.  That's why I thought that song is pretty stupid.
why? cos he doesn't fit the gangsta rap image? ::)
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: 7even on February 05, 2005, 10:19:38 AM
he comes off as a white guy trapped in a black guy's body.  That's why I thought that song is pretty stupid.
why? cos he doesn't fit the gangsta rap image? ::)

no, because he's dissin' whites.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: white Boy on February 05, 2005, 10:41:03 AM
what is nerd rap, as far as im conerned its like rapping about atoms, and space and shit.. on this album, he just rapped about life. he was like kweli, just less ego and punchlines, and not as good a flow...what was "nerd" about the album.. no?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ecrazy on February 05, 2005, 01:17:48 PM
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Man I do the same music, they stop coming to shows
It's like they scared of the white boys in the front row
First I was like "so?" I'mma get my dough
But the numbers kept falling as my fan base would grow
And now I'm concerned so I gotta speak up
First the money was the only thing shutting me up
But now I don't care, don't support me, get mad
Why wouldn't you abort me, my own people have
I feel I should have the scans white rappers have
It's sad but that's the way it is
What's the reason that my album doesn't sell like his?
And don't front like you don't why the hell that is
It's because he's white, you can relate to his face
Through the years you've been taught that Black is unsafe
Plus it's only natural for your own to be embraced
Conscious or subconscious you can't say that ain't the case
Only reason it took so long to take place
Was up until now your only choice was 3rd Bass
Or others like Ice, wasn't really that tight
Now you got some white dudes who can truly rock the mic
You relate to their stories cause you share that past
Question is, why would you listen to MURS' Black ass?
I asked myself for a while but now I finally get it
Good music transcends all physical limits

It's more than something that you hear, it's something that you feel
When the author and experience and passion is real
Used to feel I should be silent, I was scared to do this song
But I want everyone aware of what is going on
Yes it is jazz and yes it is the blues
And yes it is the exact same way they did rock
But I refuse to watch the same thing happen to hip-hop
I refuse to watch that bullshit...



why does he make such a big deal abou the differences between whites and black, WE ARE NOT THAT DIFFERENT, its just a skin color...

IMO, the way i interpreted it, he does realize that with that line

End Of Beginning is a OK album IMO, but this cd outshines all of those, And his flows hes dropping on the new Living Legends  :o !!! seriously gonna be heat....hes coming out with a new cd with 9th wonder, called Mur's Revenge, Sometime this year.....But For The Latest Murs, You should wait for the new Living Legends CD "Classic"
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ABN on February 05, 2005, 01:21:26 PM
i aint never heard none of his albums and i aint never heard of him. so he´s white dissin white people or what? shit maybe i should try to go out and diss dominicans.................
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ecrazy on February 05, 2005, 01:22:41 PM
i aint never heard none of his albums and i aint never heard of him. so he´s white dissin white people or what? shit maybe i should try to go out and diss dominicans.................

WTF??? :wavey:
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ABN on February 05, 2005, 01:32:22 PM
oh i read wrong i thought someone said he was like a black guy trapped in a white guy´s body but it was the other way around my bad.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Suffice on February 05, 2005, 08:17:28 PM
murs is dope, although he may be opinionated... but isn't that a good thing? i like the "3:16" album and "Rules the World" album, haven't heard all of "The End of the Beginning"... can someone hook it up?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ecrazy on February 05, 2005, 09:24:19 PM
murs is dope, although he may be opinionated... but isn't that a good thing? i like the "3:16" album and "Rules the World" album, haven't heard all of "The End of the Beginning"... can someone hook it up?
I would if i could, but i only have it on Wax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ill try to hook it up, i think my friend has the CD
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Suffice on February 05, 2005, 10:53:42 PM
murs is dope, although he may be opinionated... but isn't that a good thing? i like the "3:16" album and "Rules the World" album, haven't heard all of "The End of the Beginning"... can someone hook it up?
I would if i could, but i only have it on Wax!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ill try to hook it up, i think my friend has the CD

thanks, i can hook up either of the two i said i got if u want
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: R-Tistic on February 06, 2005, 04:32:05 AM
LOL. Murs is my blood cousin so I gotta defend him.

For one, NO WAY he is dissin white people. He is speakin 100% truth, even if you don't agree with his opinion. I understand that white people definitely won't feel this way, and if I was white I might feel like he was "dissin" me but I know that he's definitely not racist at all, but he's just speaking how he feels about things. I'm black, and it's NO WAY IN HELL you could say blacks and whites are not that different. We are different in 100s of ways if you generalize us both or look at our history. There is no better or worst ethnicity, but I realize that we are definitely different, and it's nothin wrong with that.

As far as him bein a white guy trapped in a black guys body, that's ignorant as hell. Makes no sense to me...maybe because he can speak correct english? Maybe because he doesn't gangbang? Maybe because he doesn't portray the stereotypical image that most people seem to think black people are "supposed" to act or talk like because of how we are portrayed in rap music and through the media? I'm a 20 year old educated black man, and I'm pretty damm sure I'll kill anybody in an arguement about what "black" is supposed to be and what it really is.

Title: Re: Murs
Post by: young ozwald on February 06, 2005, 10:02:37 AM
That album is pure flames, Mus and 9th did thier thing.  Murs just kept it real on a real life level, everybody in Cali aint gang-bangin but it dont mean that they wont bring it to you, The Nigga spoke on some real life shit and situations.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: OpTiCaL on February 06, 2005, 10:59:22 AM
That album is pure flames, Mus and 9th did thier thing.  Murs just kept it real on a real life level, everybody in Cali aint gang-bangin but it dont mean that they wont bring it to you, The Nigga spoke on some real life shit and situations.


I ll second that... i also have these :
Murs - Good Music (2CD)
Murs - The End Of The Beginning
Murs – Murs rules the World
Murs - Murs Is My Best Friend

Title: Re: Murs
Post by: smartass on February 06, 2005, 11:03:46 AM
Murs 3:16 The 9th Edition is great but I heard one of his other albums and it sure as hell wasn't. 
He's borderline nerd rap as far as I'm concerned and he comes off as a white guy trapped in a black guy's body.  That's why I thought that song is pretty stupid.
word, this nerd rap shit has got to die already. theres been like 3 good albums to come outta that entire record label, tops. the cold vein being the best one.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: white Boy on February 06, 2005, 11:10:32 AM
^ can you tell me how "murs 3:16 the 9th edition" is nerd rap?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: smartass on February 07, 2005, 11:31:16 AM
^ can you tell me how "murs 3:16 the 9th edition" is nerd rap?
i was reffering to his older stuff, thats why i quoted c2knuckles, but if you really want to know, he will always have that stigma with him. even he knows that. he dissed 95% of his fans in a magazine. i remember talib kweli doing the same thing on rap city. they want to get away from the type of people who like their music, but they never will, cause people cant help what they like...that album is cool, 9th wonder is overrated to me...fake ass pete rock
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: ecrazy on February 07, 2005, 05:20:03 PM
^ can you tell me how "murs 3:16 the 9th edition" is nerd rap?
9th wonder is overrated to me...fake ass pete rock

Seriously, He Needs New Drums, but his sampling is awesome
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: white Boy on February 07, 2005, 07:45:25 PM
^ his production is sick.. hes not the best.. but def better than many producers
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Danté Williams on February 08, 2005, 02:39:05 AM
Murs is tight and I appreciate his music, but that Black thing is used up and (if you let me) stupid. Come on, there's been tons of multi-platinum black artists (rappers and not) before and after Eminem. We are different, that's no doubt. And that's how it should be. There's no race inferior, tho.

The problem is, Eminem makes music for the white people, so what? Black rappers have been doing music for black people for years (and years) and nobody would care. White people still bought it, rappers got rich off that, and still acted like there was no white audience. And now that somebody is getting that white audience, they speak up that black & white shit cause they're losing their sales.

If a white rapper came out speaking how 50cent is multiplatinum cause he's black and he's not selling shit cause he's white and gets no credibility because of it, imagine what would happen. He'd be called racist at the least. Racism is racisim both ways.

I am white and I give a fuck about Eminem, I don't like his music so I don't buy his records. I buy what I like  regardless or their and my race. And that's how it should be, black rappers should realize that hiphop is universal and meant for everyone everywhere. Stop that 'by blacks for blacks' shit, it's played out and not true.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Doggystylin on March 31, 2005, 03:25:45 PM
Murs is the shit,I love 316 9th edition, that album is crazy. The thing about Murs is that in his songs he seems to be such a down to earth guy that he makes you feel him.

and R-tistic, hes your cousin? so you must know a lot about this guy, I wanted to ask you a few things about Murs and his music, you think I can hit you up on AIM?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: white Boy on March 31, 2005, 03:35:36 PM
Mur The thing about Murs is that in his songs he seems to be such a down to earth guy that he makes you feel him.
exactly
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Juronimo on March 31, 2005, 03:37:29 PM
LOL. Murs is my blood cousin so I gotta defend him.

For one, NO WAY he is dissin white people. He is speakin 100% truth, even if you don't agree with his opinion. I understand that white people definitely won't feel this way, and if I was white I might feel like he was "dissin" me but I know that he's definitely not racist at all, but he's just speaking how he feels about things. I'm black, and it's NO WAY IN HELL you could say blacks and whites are not that different. We are different in 100s of ways if you generalize us both or look at our history. There is no better or worst ethnicity, but I realize that we are definitely different, and it's nothin wrong with that.

As far as him bein a white guy trapped in a black guys body, that's ignorant as hell. Makes no sense to me...maybe because he can speak correct english? Maybe because he doesn't gangbang? Maybe because he doesn't portray the stereotypical image that most people seem to think black people are "supposed" to act or talk like because of how we are portrayed in rap music and through the media? I'm a 20 year old educated black man, and I'm pretty damm sure I'll kill anybody in an arguement about what "black" is supposed to be and what it really is.



Word

Some fools are talking out the sides of they necks once again.

And to white boy, if you honestly think the police treat whites and blacks the same, you're really on some shit. Some people are really in denial when it comes to racism.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: SGV on March 31, 2005, 03:58:24 PM
Lyrically, pervious Murs albums are dope. Musically, this is the only dope one.

White Boy, where you're from and where Murs is from, are two different places. You'd understand if you lived out here, you don't, so you can't understand.

The most classic Murs moment for me was when he performed "And This Is For" and all the white boys stopped singing along! LOL!!! Hilarious. But, don't act like he's only getting at whites, he gets on Blacks too. Don't try to omit that to fit your agenda, Mr. O'Reily.
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: Doggystylin on March 31, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
When was that SGV? I wanna see him live and howcome he isn't touring with the legends? Wheres Murs at now and whats he doin?
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: white Boy on March 31, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
i live in a majorily white neighberhood, like 10 minutes from philadlephia, i have seen friewnds get pulled over and get tickets for some dumb shit, i have been arested several times, trust me, i am not in denial about racism, black people are just tryin to make something out of nothing, if a cop pulls me over and a black man over, 90%  of the time it would be the same ish, but w/e this is all talking out of asses, cause this cant be prooved ...
Title: Re: Murs
Post by: R-Tistic on March 31, 2005, 04:28:14 PM
Murs is the shit,I love 316 9th edition, that album is crazy. The thing about Murs is that in his songs he seems to be such a down to earth guy that he makes you feel him.

and R-tistic, hes your cousin? so you must know a lot about this guy, I wanted to ask you a few things about Murs and his music, you think I can hit you up on AIM?

Yea definitely, his brother actually goes to school with me out in Florida. If you want, I can even get at you next time he's over cause he basically knows everything plus some about him.