West Coast Connection Forum

DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 11:10:25 AM

Title: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 11:10:25 AM
that was when he was in his prime.  Puffin on blunts, ain't no fun, stranded on death row, doggy dogg world, have kurupts best verses EVER.  not to mention all his dope raps on dogg food.  do you think suge wouldn't let them put any material on it?

overall tho it is a pretty banging greatest hits.  I haven't listened to most of those albums in quite awhile and I forgot how dope some of those songs are. 

Treat me like a lady off of Dillinger and Gotti, has a really dope beat.  I don't think I ever really appreciated it as much as I do now.  Mike Dean and Daz really put together a lot of very solid beats on that album.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Don Seer on February 13, 2005, 11:11:33 AM
maybe because they weren't put out as solo's on DR.. since he was never signed there as a solo artist back in the day... or maybe because of legal shit.. ?
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: C-clamp on February 13, 2005, 11:24:30 AM
I think this album is being put out on antra or whatever his old label was, cause he still owes them an album, by releasing this, he meets that obligation and he can finally get his new death row stuff out
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: mauzip on February 13, 2005, 11:26:03 AM
^^i heard he still has to release 1 more album after this greatest hits cd before he can drop atg
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 11:27:28 AM
it is being released by like bungalo or some shit.  some label bought antra I believe.  either way, they could still get dr tracks with permission from suge.  suge owns all publishings to all of kurupts work when he was first on the row.  and suge wouldn't even give up a track or 2 for kurupt?  thats fucked up if you ask me.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Eddie G. on February 13, 2005, 11:31:13 AM
^^i heard he still has to release 1 more album after this greatest hits cd before he can drop atg
Good, then we'll get more Kurupt shit 8)
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: mauzip on February 13, 2005, 11:32:40 AM
or not...
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: MOB on February 13, 2005, 11:39:36 AM
like overseer said,i think it has to do with legal situations
maybe the executives at bungalo didn't want to put death row tracks cause they should have paid suge...?!
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 11:43:53 AM
they would only have to pay suge if he wanted to charge them.  he owns the publishing, which means he can do whatever the fuck he wants.  I understand he is a businessman and all, but c'mon, we are talking about kurupt here.  the guy who left his click to come back and be suge's vice president.  It would just be a nice gesture to give up a track or two for free for kurupts sake.  but then again, maybe kurupt ain't makin a dime off this thing.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Don Seer on February 13, 2005, 11:51:55 AM
can they bend the rules with publishing like that? :P
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 11:58:59 AM
suge owns the publishing.  they are his to do whatever he wants.  thats what made suge so different from people like puffy.  if someone wants gin and juice, suge can charge whatever he wants.  no one else makes money off it, no other label people.  so suge can give a song or even a whole album if he wants.  dumb thing to do through a business perspective, but nice thing to do through a friend perspective of kurupt.  I'm betting kurupt doesn't make any money at all off this album.  Antra already paid kurupt and then he owed them albums.  now he is just doing whatever he can to put together an album, just like he did with The originals.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: nibs on February 13, 2005, 12:56:16 PM
suge owns the publishing.  they are his to do whatever he wants.  thats what made suge so different from people <snip>
Antra already paid kurupt and then he owed them albums.  now he is just doing whatever he can to put together an album, just like he did with The originals.

so you are saying it wouldn't make sense for suge to give antra a song as kurupt won't get paid off of it?
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 13, 2005, 01:08:56 PM
suge owns the publishing.  they are his to do whatever he wants.  thats what made suge so different from people <snip>
Antra already paid kurupt and then he owed them albums.  now he is just doing whatever he can to put together an album, just like he did with The originals.

so you are saying it wouldn't make sense for suge to give antra a song as kurupt won't get paid off of it?


yes.  it would make sense for suge to sell them some songs if kurupt wasn't gonna get paid for this album, but it wouldn't make sense for him to give them songs.  which then makes sense why antra wouldn't put death row songs on the greatest hits, because they would have to pay for them.  why would they pay for them, when they have a shitload of songs already at their disposale for free.  it would only make sense for suge to give up songs for free if kurupt was going to make money off of the sales of the album, and it would only make sense as suge doing a favor to kurupt.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: doubletrouble™ on February 13, 2005, 05:41:28 PM
maybe because they weren't put out as solo's on DR.. since he was never signed there as a solo artist back in the day... or maybe because of legal shit.. ?

It's most likely legal shit..........
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: alaskanbrad on February 14, 2005, 01:43:59 PM
these songs were good, that dillinger & young gotti tape was weird, they were talking about smoking crack and doing heroin, cant say i relate to that. kurupt didnt really have any solo songs with death row that i can remember, just small parts on songs, but he was really good, that dogg food is probably one of the best rap albums ever
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Acgrundy on February 14, 2005, 11:13:06 PM
ya know I was just thinking today.  I gave my opinion on why no deathrow material was on there, but then I was thinking...what about the material from dillinger and young gotti....doesn't daz own that?
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Quadruple OG on February 15, 2005, 12:53:39 PM
think the reason for this is because of how Kurupt came back to Death Row.  He owed Antra another album before he could leave, however he just peaced out early from it.  By putting Death Row-era tracks on it, not only would they have to pay Death Row, but Death Row would recieve a portion of the profits
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: music is like magic on February 15, 2005, 03:49:47 PM
cuz suge is a B-I-otch :-*
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: picoplaya on February 15, 2005, 08:05:47 PM
because suge ran out of vaseline
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: picoplaya on February 15, 2005, 08:32:29 PM
plus kurupt is feeling used
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: picoplaya on February 15, 2005, 08:33:31 PM
plus kurupt is feeling used
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: thuglord on February 15, 2005, 08:53:49 PM
plus kurupt is feeling used

Pico I don't think this is the right way to reach the 100 posts!  ;)
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: nibs on February 15, 2005, 10:11:29 PM
kurupt didnt really have any solo songs with death row that i can remember, just small parts on songs
[/quote

new york, new york
loc'd out hood

Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Don Seer on February 16, 2005, 06:41:06 AM
think the reason for this is because of how Kurupt came back to Death Row.  He owed Antra another album before he could leave, however he just peaced out early from it.  By putting Death Row-era tracks on it, not only would they have to pay Death Row, but Death Row would recieve a portion of the profits

Kurupt didnt go back to Death Row as an Artist. He went back as VP.. without any intentions of putting out a project there.. however it seems a Kurupt album on the row is what people want..
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: alaskanbrad on February 17, 2005, 07:03:06 PM
kurupt didnt really have any solo songs with death row that i can remember, just small parts on songs
[/quote

new york, new york
loc'd out hood


now i KNOW "new york, new york" was not a kurupt solo, but i relly liked the song, wish i still had it
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: Trauma-san on February 18, 2005, 11:29:36 PM
I'm gonna be honest, these rappers are idiots for the contracts they sign.  What idiot would sign a contract that you know is going to keep you tied down for an indefinate period of time?  They sign for like 4 or 5 albums, and then it's the record co.'s decision on how often they'll release music.  So you could effectively be on there forever.  It's just straight up greed on both sides, greed to lock the guy down forever, and greed to get as much cash upfront out of the record company. 

Even Dre is locked down by Jimmy Iovine at Interscope...They've got a pretty good relationship, but if they'res ever a falling out, Jimmy would have Dre by the balls, just like Suge did. 

I know it's hard to do it any other way, but if more of these artists would stand up for their freedom from these crazy ass contracts, they'd see a better day.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: mauzip on February 19, 2005, 12:05:44 AM
^^

What if the artist flops? The artist will be glad he still has his contract, the record company would rather want to see him go.
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: music is like magic on February 19, 2005, 10:42:47 PM
think the reason for this is because of how Kurupt came back to Death Row.  He owed Antra another album before he could leave, however he just peaced out early from it.  By putting Death Row-era tracks on it, not only would they have to pay Death Row, but Death Row would recieve a portion of the profits

Kurupt didnt go back to Death Row as an Artist. He went back as VP.. without any intentions of putting out a project there.. however it seems a Kurupt album on the row is what people want..
shit i dont
Title: Re: why are there no death row tracks on kurupts Greatest hits?
Post by: ecrazy on February 19, 2005, 10:48:41 PM
^^

What if the artist flops? The artist will be glad he still has his contract, the record company would rather want to see him go.