West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite on March 06, 2005, 02:40:36 PM
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Don't forget, "The Chronic" was actually very political. Dre sets the tone for the album in "Let Me Ride", stating- "No Medallions, No Dreadlocks, No Blackfists/.... it's just that gansta shit!", which to me is saying that the streets were fed up with being conscious, and that it was time to start busting guns.
At the time of it's release, racial tension and violence were boiling over on the West Coast, the Rodney King trial, police brutality, and the LA riots were hot topics at that time, as evident in Dre's track "The Day The Niggaz Took Over", the theme to this song is the LA riots! In that song there is a line, "Break the white man off somethin lovely/ I don't love them so them can't love me". Lyrics like this were prevelent throughout the Chronic album, and could even be considered as lyrics with the potential of inciting a riot, this is no small thing, a riot is civil war.
You also have tracks like "Lil Ghetto Boy" that are all about problems facing the black community, blacks being imprisoned- "I spent 4 years in the county with nothin but convicts surround me", poverty "Make all them ends you can make/cause when you broke you brake", the track is about African nationalism and unity "If I have to die today, for this African to have a future/I'm a dead mutherfucker", and black empowerment, "We expose ways for the youth to survive/ Some think it's wrong but we tend to think it's right".
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who didnt know this?
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who didnt know this?
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who didnt know this?
Well, maybe you already know everything, and that's great, congratulations, but this thread was in response to another thread about Paris, in the thread it was said that "Sonic Jihad" was a better album than "The Chronic" because the chronic wasn't politically conscious.
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o ok
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(I'ma say this and I'ma end mine
If you ain't down, for the Africans here
in the United States, period point blank..
If you ain't down for the ones that suffered in South Africa
from apartheid and shit
Devil you need to step your punk ass to the side
and let us brothers, and us Africans, step in
and start puttin some FOOT, in that ass!!)
[Dr. Dre]
Sittin in my living room, calm and collected
Feelin that gotta-get-mine perspective
cause what I just heard, broke me in half
and half the niggaz I know, plus the niggaz on the Row is bailin
Laugh now but cry much later
Ya see when niggaz get together
they get mad cause they can't fade us
Like my niggaz from South Central, Los Angeles
They found that they couldn't handle us
Bloods, Crips on the same squad
with the Ese's help and nigga it's time to rob and mob
(And break the white man off somthin lovely, biddy-bye-bye
I don't love dem so dem can't love me)
Yo, straight puttin it down gettin my scoot on
It's jump in off in Compton so I gots to get my loot on
and come up on me some furniture or somethin
Got a VCR, in the back of my car
that I ganked from the Slausson Swap Meet
And motherfuckers better not try to stop me
Cause they will see that I can't be stopped
cause I'ma cock my Glock and pop til they all drop
smoke something up. 8)
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It would be a mistake to be talking about Westcoast Political Albums without mentioning Above The Law's - Uncle Sam's Curse.
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Its really not that political. You can make anything out of the simple lines and lyrics of The Chronic. You presented some lines that could mean anything and be directed towards anything and provided the story and meaning for yourself. If it was really that political the lyrics would speak for itself.
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yah infinite.. i know _exactly_ where this comes from in your mind.. (paris thread)
WHY do you insist your 'insights' deserve a new tyhread instead of making your point in the place that sparked the thought in your brain.. and ACTUALLY means you lose the original thread since your point isn't even there!
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Dres music been the least political out of the ex nwa crew.
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It would be a mistake to be talking about Westcoast Political Albums without mentioning Above The Law's - Uncle Sam's Curse.
true...that album was political also...ATL gets hella slepped on
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yah infinite.. i know _exactly_ where this comes from in your mind.. (paris thread)
WHY do you insist your 'insights' deserve a new tyhread instead of making your point in the place that sparked the thought in your brain.. and ACTUALLY means you lose the original thread since your point isn't even there!
I thought it would be a nice discussion, so I posted it up, because not alot of people on this forum are Paris fans, but almost everyone is a Dre fan, so people might not of read my thoughts on Dre if they were contained in a Paris thread.
If you don't like my threads then get out of it, but instead your almost always the first person after Englewood (Woodrow) to reply to any of my posts.
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Don't forget, "The Chronic" was actually very political. Dre sets the tone for the album in "Let Me Ride", stating- "No Medallions, No Dreadlocks, No Blackfists/.... it's just that gansta shit!", which to me is saying that the streets were fed up with being conscious, and that it was time to start busting guns.
At the time of it's release, racial tension and violence were boiling over on the West Coast, the Rodney King trial, police brutality, and the LA riots were hot topics at that time, as evident in Dre's track "The Day The Niggaz Took Over", the theme to this song is the LA riots! In that song there is a line, "Break the white man off somethin lovely/ I don't love them so them can't love me". Lyrics like this were prevelent throughout the Chronic album, and could even be considered as lyrics with the potential of inciting a riot, this is no small thing, a riot is civil war.
You also have tracks like "Lil Ghetto Boy" that are all about problems facing the black community, blacks being imprisoned- "I spent 4 years in the county with nothin but convicts surround me", poverty "Make all them ends you can make/cause when you broke you brake", the track is about African nationalism and unity "If I have to die today, for this African to have a future/I'm a dead mutherfucker", and black empowerment, "We expose ways for the youth to survive/ Some think it's wrong but we tend to think it's right".
Yeah, I'll bet you used to sit in your room and have daydreams about all the niccas killing your family, you sick fuck. What's it like to be part of a movement that doesn't concern or respect you? What a fucking fool. You ought to join a fuckin' feminism movement, then you'd fully hate *EVERYTHING you are... of course to do that, you'd have to have some respect for women, which we all know your feelings on that, pre-arranged marriage and women in Burkas.
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yah infinite.. i know _exactly_ where this comes from in your mind.. (paris thread)
WHY do you insist your 'insights' deserve a new tyhread instead of making your point in the place that sparked the thought in your brain.. and ACTUALLY means you lose the original thread since your point isn't even there!
I thought it would be a nice discussion, so I posted it up, because not alot of people on this forum are Paris fans, but almost everyone is a Dre fan, so people might not of read my thoughts on Dre if they were contained in a Paris thread.
If you don't like my threads then get out of it, but instead your almost always the first person after Englewood (Woodrow) to reply to any of my posts.
but engle hasent even replied yet...
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Don't forget, "The Chronic" was actually very political. Dre sets the tone for the album in "Let Me Ride", stating- "No Medallions, No Dreadlocks, No Blackfists/.... it's just that gansta shit!", which to me is saying that the streets were fed up with being conscious, and that it was time to start busting guns.
At the time of it's release, racial tension and violence were boiling over on the West Coast, the Rodney King trial, police brutality, and the LA riots were hot topics at that time, as evident in Dre's track "The Day The Niggaz Took Over", the theme to this song is the LA riots! In that song there is a line, "Break the white man off somethin lovely/ I don't love them so them can't love me". Lyrics like this were prevelent throughout the Chronic album, and could even be considered as lyrics with the potential of inciting a riot, this is no small thing, a riot is civil war.
You also have tracks like "Lil Ghetto Boy" that are all about problems facing the black community, blacks being imprisoned- "I spent 4 years in the county with nothin but convicts surround me", poverty "Make all them ends you can make/cause when you broke you brake", the track is about African nationalism and unity "If I have to die today, for this African to have a future/I'm a dead mutherfucker", and black empowerment, "We expose ways for the youth to survive/ Some think it's wrong but we tend to think it's right".
Yeah, I'll bet you used to sit in your room and have daydreams about all the niccas killing your family, you sick fuck. What's it like to be part of a movement that doesn't concern or respect you? What a fucking fool. You ought to join a fuckin' feminism movement, then you'd fully hate *EVERYTHING you are... of course to do that, you'd have to have some respect for women, which we all know your feelings on that, pre-arranged marriage and women in Burkas.
another pussy drought huh?....tough times...let it all out
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the were some political things on the album but thats it
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Don't forget, "The Chronic" was actually very political. Dre sets the tone for the album in "Let Me Ride", stating- "No Medallions, No Dreadlocks, No Blackfists/.... it's just that gansta shit!", which to me is saying that the streets were fed up with being conscious, and that it was time to start busting guns.
At the time of it's release, racial tension and violence were boiling over on the West Coast, the Rodney King trial, police brutality, and the LA riots were hot topics at that time, as evident in Dre's track "The Day The Niggaz Took Over", the theme to this song is the LA riots! In that song there is a line, "Break the white man off somethin lovely/ I don't love them so them can't love me". Lyrics like this were prevelent throughout the Chronic album, and could even be considered as lyrics with the potential of inciting a riot, this is no small thing, a riot is civil war.
You also have tracks like "Lil Ghetto Boy" that are all about problems facing the black community, blacks being imprisoned- "I spent 4 years in the county with nothin but convicts surround me", poverty "Make all them ends you can make/cause when you broke you brake", the track is about African nationalism and unity "If I have to die today, for this African to have a future/I'm a dead mutherfucker", and black empowerment, "We expose ways for the youth to survive/ Some think it's wrong but we tend to think it's right".
Yeah, I'll bet you used to sit in your room and have daydreams about all the niccas killing your family, you sick fuck. What's it like to be part of a movement that doesn't concern or respect you? What a fucking fool. You ought to join a fuckin' feminism movement, then you'd fully hate *EVERYTHING you are... of course to do that, you'd have to have some respect for women, which we all know your feelings on that, pre-arranged marriage and women in Burkas.
another pussy drought huh?....tough times...let it all out
What's wrong, man, you still pissed i won't talk to you online? Get off my (Well, and Brad Pitt's) nuts, please.
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"If I have to die today, for this African to have a future/I'm a dead mutherfucker"
i like that line..
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It wasnt nearly as political as Fear of A Black Planet, Death Certificate, or 2Pacalypse Now.
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You really pay way too much attention to me, you shouldn't invest so much of your time thinking about my life. This wasn't even the subject of the thread. The thread wasn't a discussion on my racial views, the thread was a discussion about whether or not "The Chronic" was a political album, and I simply wanted to make the case that I thought the album was political. Then you went crazy and displayed your fixation of me for the whole board to see.
Yeah, I'll bet you used to sit in your room and have daydreams about all the niccas killing your family, you sick fuck.
My family is half black. My wife is black, and all my in laws are black. I'm really close with my in laws, and I knew them even before I knew my wife, and we all love eachother. So when you talk about "niccas" killing my family.. half of my family is black.
What's it like to be part of a movement that doesn't concern or respect you? What a fucking fool.
If black people ran this country there probably wouldn't be any war against Muslim countries, but I'm not a part of any "black" movement. What you said makes no sense. I am a Muslim, I identify with Muslims, Muslims are from all races, from Africa, to Indonesia, to the Caucus mountains of Chechnya, Russia. And as soon as you enter into Islam, it erases all racial divisions, and you become brothers and sisters in faith.
You ought to join a fuckin' feminism movement, then you'd fully hate *EVERYTHING you are... of course to do that, you'd have to have some respect for women, which we all know your feelings on that, pre-arranged marriage and women in Burkas.
Do you even know what an "arranged" marriage consists of in Islam? You really have no idea about how Muslims traditionally get married. I went over and visited my wife and ate dinner with her family for several evenings, we discussed future plans, we talked for a long time to eachother, and I proposed marriage. She could agree or disagree, she agreed, and we went ahead and got married shortly after that. She could have married whoever she wanted to. We were never alone together until after we got married, so it was easy to stay far away from sin. Tell me what is bad or oppressive about this? And the way my wife and mother in law dress, is not forced on them. They are both American, grew up in America, converted to Islam, and chose to dress that way. Nobody ever forced them to do anything. You really have no idea what you are saying. You just make yourself look ignorant.
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^^ whoa hold up, u got married?
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Funny. Immortal Technique was telling me the same thing that Gangsta Rap back in the days was really Political.
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You really pay way too much attention to me, you shouldn't invest so much of your time thinking about my life. This wasn't even the subject of the thread. The thread wasn't a discussion on my racial views, the thread was a discussion about whether or not "The Chronic" was a political album, and I simply wanted to make the case that I thought the album was political. Then you went crazy and displayed your fixation of me for the whole board to see.
Yeah, I'll bet you used to sit in your room and have daydreams about all the niccas killing your family, you sick fuck.
My family is half black. My wife is black, and all my in laws are black. I'm really close with my in laws, and I knew them even before I knew my wife, and we all love eachother. So when you talk about "niccas" killing my family.. half of my family is black.
He's prolly talking about your blood family.
Also, the fact remains that you hate something you are and support movements that aim at fucking up people like you and your mother.
Makes me sick. See a psychiatrist.
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man i made fun of infinite saying that he only reads opinions of others and they become his opinions...i'd just like to say i'm wrong
he also comes up with the dumbest fucking opinions all by himself.... a few political verses on a cd does not a political album make
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i just wanna smoke blunts
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If black people ran this country there probably wouldn't be any war against Muslim countries, but I'm not a part of any "black" movement. What you said makes no sense. I am a Muslim, I identify with Muslims, Muslims are from all races, from Africa, to Indonesia, to the Caucus mountains of Chechnya, Russia. And as soon as you enter into Islam, it erases all racial divisions, and you become brothers and sisters in faith.
fuck that if black opeople ran the country they wouldnt know what to do. half the gang members are all fucking black and brown shit i know mexicans run the fucking system but from the inside that the "shite mane" put them there. lets not talk about the who would have or should have shit white man is controling the shit. cuz the motherfucking devil was white