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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Mac 10 † on March 19, 2005, 04:38:44 PM
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Craig Bellamy scored his 1st hat-trick for Dubcc's favourite non-dutch team: Celtic
AS the Champions go back where they belong...top of the league
Dundee Utd 2-3 Celtic
Craig Bellamy (left) was the match winner at Tannadice
A superb hat-trick from Craig Bellamy defeated Dundee United and lifted Celtic back to the top of the Scottish Premier League above Rangers.
The Wales striker fired powerfully into the far corner of the net from the edge of the box to give Celtic the lead.
Jim McIntyre equalised with a shot on the turn, but Bellamy struck from 22 yards to restore the lead.
Barry Robson equalised with a similarly spectacular strike, but Bellamy pounced again to drive in Celtic's third.
Robson had been recalled to the United line-up along with Mark Kerr for the first game under interim manager Gordon Chisholm, with Derek McInnes and James Grady dropping out of the midfield.
And the SPL's bottom side looked fired up to impress their new boss as they pushed forward early on.
But they quickly fell behind when Jackie McNamara powered through the centre of midfield and set up Bellamy, who was given time and room to thump his drive into the far roof of the net from the edge of the box.
Celtic's defence was back to a more familiar line-up, Stanislav Varga recovering from illness to replace Stephane Henchoz.
But United were creating openings, with Stevie Crawford and Stuart Duff squandering chances, while Bellamy found the side netting at the other end.
Bobo Balde sent a strong header straight at Tony Bullock before the United goalkeeper helped United draw level.
His punt flew all the way to the Celtic penalty area, where Varga allowed McIntyre enough room to fire a first-time shot on the turn past Douglas.
Celtic quickly restored the lead when Ulrik Laursen found Bellamy making a superb run to shake off Paul Ritchie and lofted his drive over Bullock and into the net off the far post.
A fine, one-handed save from Bullock prevented a Varga header extending the lead.
United came close to equalising again immediately after the break, Douglas saving well after a deflection off Neil Lennon and then from a header by McIntyre.
The home side eventually made the breakthrough when Robson fired home from 20 yards.
But Bellamy had the last word, running on to a flick from Chris Sutton, who had returned from injury to win a place on the bench, to drive the winner home from just inside the box.
Celtic survived the closing minutes with 10 men after Sutton had to be withdrawn injured, Douglas producing a superb save to deny Robson.
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Dundee Utd: Bullock, Wilson, Kenneth, Ritchie, Archibald, Duff (Scotland 86), Kerr (McInnes 58), Brebner, Robson, Crawford (Grady 76), McIntyre.
Subs Not Used: Colgan, Samuel, Dodds, Robertson.
Booked: Kenneth, Brebner.
Goals: McIntyre 24, Robson 71.
Celtic: Douglas, McNamara, Balde, Varga, Laursen (Wallace 78), McGeady (Henchoz 84), Petrov, Lennon, Thompson, Bellamy, Hartson (Sutton 61).
Subs Not Used: Marshall, Valgaeren, Fernandez, Maloney.
Booked: Douglas, McNamara.
Goals: Bellamy 5, 34, 80.
Att: 10,828
Ref: D McDonald
from --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/4359171.stm
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Great Now go and tell some people who give a shit
''Dubcc's favourite non-dutch team''
Get the fuck out of here
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who the fuck are you? ???
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Scoring a hat trick in the Scottish league is hardly big news man.
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i didn't mention the scottish league
the topic was about celtic and bellamy
the spl comment was irrelevant
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Hey fuck u. Don't slag the fuckin SPL. our country is the fuckin reason urs is so succesful. look at the History of most succesful managers in English footballs history. look at the players considered legends. Kenny Daglish Billy Bremner Dennis Law Andy Gray Hanson Strachan etc They all started in the Scotland so dont fuckin diss mutha fucka
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HAIL HAIL :-*
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SPL is a below par league. Look at Barry Ferguson, complete shit in the Premiership playing quality opponents week in week out but Rangers rate him highly for his performance against sides such as Dundee Utd and Kilmarnock ?
Bellamy is the same, the little shit cunt. Couldn't score for to save his life in the Premiership, now he's banging them in. Did he turn into a good player overnight? Nah he's playing against defenders who are on par with those from the Conference.
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lol im a kilmarnock fan! I never thot they would ever get a mention on DUBCC lol
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lol im a kilmarnock fan! I never thot they would ever get a mention on DUBCC lol
I was just thinking of crappy Scottish sides.
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The scottish league is a joke, how you get two Champions League places is beyond me, because it guarantees both Rangers & Celtic to qualify. The prime example is Chris Sutton, 2 goals in a season for Chelsea, moves to Scotland and scores like 25+. Was that because Martin O'Neill turned him into a great player, no, it was because he was playing against crap sides every week.
And to Wilz, how many of those players u mentioned didn't come from Rangers, Celtic or Aberdeen?
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nobody's arguing that the SPL is better than the Premiership no-one is that biased or stupid
2nd point: Barry Ferguson IS shite, he is a premiership failure/reject whatever u want to call him
but sutton did get transformed, all u have to do is look at who he has scored against in european leagues to see that
barcelona and juventus spring to mind
and he aint even a really centre forward or talisman he has been a utility player for us
anyone who says sutton isn't or hasn't been a revolution for us both domestically and on the european scene shouldn't be discussing football at all!!
also bearing in mind he was 1/2 of the greatest ever premiership pairing of all time
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The scottish league is a joke, how you get two Champions League places is beyond me, because it guarantees both Rangers & Celtic to qualify. The prime example is Chris Sutton, 2 goals in a season for Chelsea, moves to Scotland and scores like 25+. Was that because Martin O'Neill turned him into a great player, no, it was because he was playing against crap sides every week.
And to Wilz, how many of those players u mentioned didn't come from Rangers, Celtic or Aberdeen?
^ u are so stupid. What would it matter if they came from Rangers Celtic or Aberdeen? they all played in scotland. and what percentage of ur great players came from Man Utd Arsenal or Liverpool? u have 50 million to chose from, we have 5. so i don't understand why u would say Rangers, celtic or Aberdeen. And we deserve two places because not only have Celtic consistently beaten there English opposition they have been doing well on the european scene and it is because of there hard wrok that we were rewarded with another place. I really don't think u should be discussing this football issue Rastaman as u abviously don't have a wide enough knowledge of this particular topic.
And i that was a good point from mac 10.
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celtic have beaten blackburn, man utd (at least twice), tottenham, leeds, liverpool, norwich and drew with arsenal over the last 3/4 years, so u tell me who isn't a good team, who wouldn't compete in the premiership and who doesn't deserve a champions league place season after season
not forgetting the fact that no british club has come close to what we achieved in europe recently
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yea what now Rastaman?
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The scottish league is a joke, how you get two Champions League places is beyond me, because it guarantees both Rangers & Celtic to qualify. The prime example is Chris Sutton, 2 goals in a season for Chelsea, moves to Scotland and scores like 25+. Was that because Martin O'Neill turned him into a great player, no, it was because he was playing against crap sides every week.
And to Wilz, how many of those players u mentioned didn't come from Rangers, Celtic or Aberdeen?
^ u are so stupid. What would it matter if they came from Rangers Celtic or Aberdeen? they all played in scotland. and what percentage of ur great players came from Man Utd Arsenal or Liverpool? u have 50 million to chose from, we have 5. so i don't understand why u would say Rangers, celtic or Aberdeen. And we deserve two places because not only have Celtic consistently beaten there English opposition they have been doing well on the european scene and it is because of there hard wrok that we were rewarded with another place. I really don't think u should be discussing this football issue Rastaman as u abviously don't have a wide enough knowledge of this particular topic.
And i that was a good point from mac 10.
celtic have beaten blackburn, man utd (at least twice), tottenham, leeds, liverpool, norwich and drew with arsenal over the last 3/4 years, so u tell me who isn't a good team, who wouldn't compete in the premiership and who doesn't deserve a champions league place season after season
not forgetting the fact that no british club has come close to what we achieved in europe recently
Now aint that the truth 8)
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not forgetting the fact that no british club has come close to what we achieved in europe recently
Chelsea and Liverpool in the QF's is a bigger achievement then getting to the UEFA cup final.
Everyone knows Rangers & Celtic would be midtable in the Premiership. They wouldn't be able to handle the pressure because there is no walks in the parks everyweek.
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Great Now go and tell some people who give a shit
''Dubcc's favourite non-dutch team''
Get the fuck out of here
dude, have a bitch and cry ffs.
Hes just letting us know. Fuck you, going around looking for trouble.
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not forgetting the fact that no british club has come close to what we achieved in europe recently
Chelsea and Liverpool in the QF's is a bigger achievement then getting to the UEFA cup final.
Everyone knows Rangers & Celtic would be midtable in the Premiership. They wouldn't be able to handle the pressure because there is no walks in the parks everyweek.
Didn't yo u read the posts. Celtic have consistently beaten English teams, and i think Uefa Cup Final is better than Champions League quarter final. ask the majority of liverpool fans and they would tell u they would rather be in the Eufa cup final with a huge chance of winning it (i know they did) or in the Chamions Leauge quarter final. IMO
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Great Now go and tell some people who give a shit
''Dubcc's favourite non-dutch team''
Get the fuck out of here
dude, have a bitch and cry ffs.
Hes just letting us know. Fuck you, going around looking for trouble.
Looking 4 trouble on a message board ? WTF
Maybe the internet is your real life but no mine
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if chelsea make the semis i'd say that would be a better achievement than uefa cup final.
but its not like arsenal or man utd or liverpool or any english club have done that recently.
and the only team to do it are the ones who bought success.
christ, we got there with a worse budget that any premiership club - we practically had no budget at all
knocking out liverpool and blackburn along the way 8) oh sorry not forgetting barcelona 8)
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not forgetting the fact that no british club has come close to what we achieved in europe recently
Chelsea and Liverpool in the QF's is a bigger achievement then getting to the UEFA cup final.
Everyone knows Rangers & Celtic would be midtable in the Premiership. They wouldn't be able to handle the pressure because there is no walks in the parks everyweek.
Didn't yo u read the posts. Celtic have consistently beaten English teams, and i think Uefa Cup Final is better than Champions League quarter final. ask the majority of liverpool fans and they would tell u they would rather be in the Eufa cup final with a huge chance of winning it (i know they did) or in the Chamions Leauge quarter final. IMO
I don't give a flying fuck what you think son, if Celtic were in the Premiership they would be midtable. They wouldn't even come close to a Champions League spot. They would be fighting for a UEFA cup spot with Charlton, Boro etc.
The only reason Liverpool would exchange a QF game in the Champions League for the Final of the UEFA is because they've havent got a chance of beating Juventus, Chelsea/Bayern and then whoever they would get in the final. Ask Chelsea where they would rather be and they would say the QF because they actually have a chance of winning it. I hope they go all the way personally - and give some Krauts a good shoeing along the way.
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and the only team to do it are the ones who bought success.
It's called the transfer market. If they have the money they will spend it.
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pull ya head out your ass bitch
if you had an open mind and read the previous posts u would see that we can and we would compete
we've beaten ^^^^ those teams before, we'd do it again
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who cars bout the hat trick? wos the gilr in your sig!!!?
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pull ya head out your ass bitch
Come on now, you don't want to be getting in over your head eh?
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Are you really trying to tell me I have no authority to speak on football? The point of the Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen line was that outside those three clubs, which other Scottish teams have ever done anything? The fact that there is no competition in Scotland at all is why they don't deserve two CL places, it means Rangers & Celtic are always guaranteed entry into the competition, and therefore the revenue that goes with it. How are any of the other teams in Scotland supposed to compete with that?
Mac 10, half of those English teams you listed Celtic beat in pre-season friendlies (except Liverpool & Blackburn) and therefore the results cannot be taken seriously. If Celtic and Rangers were in the Premiership they would struggle to make the UEFA Cup, because the quality isn't there in their play. They have had success in Europe because European sides aren't used to playing against such aggressive styles of football. But, as this years CL showed, teams have now worked out how to combat this, hence them being eliminated in the first stage.
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Are you really trying to tell me I have no authority to speak on football? The point of the Celtic, Rangers and Aberdeen line was that outside those three clubs, which other Scottish teams have ever done anything? The fact that there is no competition in Scotland at all is why they don't deserve two CL places, it means Rangers & Celtic are always guaranteed entry into the competition, and therefore the revenue that goes with it. How are any of the other teams in Scotland supposed to compete with that?
Mac 10, half of those English teams you listed Celtic beat in pre-season friendlies (except Liverpool & Blackburn) and therefore the results cannot be taken seriously. If Celtic and Rangers were in the Premiership they would struggle to make the UEFA Cup, because the quality isn't there in their play. They have had success in Europe because European sides aren't used to playing against such aggressive styles of football. But, as this years CL showed, teams have now worked out how to combat this, hence them being eliminated in the first stage.
yeh i know, we had a piss easy group just barca and milan ::)
dundee united won the european cup in the 80's for ya information
and i SOOO did not see the whole "they were friendlies, they don't mean shit" coming into play
if u knew anything about those games apart from the fact they were friendlies, u would know that they had their best teams out
when we beat man utd at old trafford 4-3 they had a max strength team out including veron and van nistelrooy - who they had just signed
and there is no point even arguing over this because there is no way you would admit that we could seriously compete despite how wrong u may be
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and Rastaman i said u shouldnt be commenting on this particular football topic u non readin ass mutha fucka. I think moi and Mac 10 just clamped some SPL hatin mutha fuckas lol Dundee Utd done it, and if u look at Killie they managed to get to the semi final of the fairs cup (old Uefa cup) and to your theres no competition statement rastaman, who is goin to be the top three teams in the premiership for the forseeable future? OMG i didn't expect it to be Chelsea Man U and Arsenal. before Chelsea money it was a two league team. sounds familiar? CLAMPED
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everytime those european teams come to America to play football....Celtic always gets their butt kicked, i think they won like 1 or 2 games out of two seasons here in America...its funny becuase most of the teams dont use their full squad, just Celtic does. ;D
Im not dissing celtic...im just sayin how i see it ;D
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and Rastaman i said u shouldnt be commenting on this particular football topic u non readin ass mutha fucka. I think moi and Mac 10 just clamped some SPL hatin mutha fuckas lol Dundee Utd done it, and if u look at Killie they managed to get to the semi final of the fairs cup (old Uefa cup) and to your theres no competition statement rastaman, who is goin to be the top three teams in the premiership for the forseeable future? OMG i didn't expect it to be Chelsea Man U and Arsenal. before Chelsea money it was a two league team. sounds familiar? CLAMPED
About 5 teams challenge realistically for the extra Champions League spot and nearly all the clubs in the Premiership bar the newly promoted think they have a chance of getting in Europe. The competition in the Premiership is a lot higher then in the SPL.
And if we are going to talk about teams on an international stage, Man Utd won the Champions League 5 seasons ago. That outweighs anything Celtic and Rangers have EVER done.
How many Scottish players have got a Champions League medal, or a UEFA cup medal, or a Premiership medal?
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And if we are going to talk about teams on an international stage, Man Utd won the Champions League 5 seasons ago. That outweighs anything Celtic and Rangers have EVER done.
How many Scottish players have got a Champions League medal, or a UEFA cup medal, or a Premiership medal?
Celtic won it in 67, Rangers won the Cup winners cup. Aberdeen and Dundee Utd also done it
Uefa Cup medal, Lambert played for the Dortmund Chamions League winning side, About the whole Aberdeen, Celtic, Rangers, Dundee Utd teams were Scottish. Dennis Law, Kenny Daglsih, Alan Hanson, Souness, Billy Bremner.
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When Celtic won the european cup (1st ever british club to do so) in 1967, every player in their first team was born within 17 miles of Celtic Park.
everytime those european teams come to America to play football....Celtic always gets their butt kicked, i think they won like 1 or 2 games out of two seasons here in America...its funny becuase most of the teams dont use their full squad, just Celtic does. ;D
Im not dissing celtic...im just sayin how i see it ;D
the only thing i can say to this is...wrong
we beat man utd 2-1 at the start of the season with Craig Beattie scoring the winner
have u heard of him es el duque? ^^^^^
look at the rest of our line up too
and as i said previously
"if u knew anything about those games apart from the fact they were friendlies, u would know that they had their best teams out"
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The fact that had their best teams out doesn't mean anything, because its just a pre-season friendly, you cannot count results in club friendlies for anything, look at the players Celtic have, most of them are Premiership rejects, therefore at best them might fight for a UEFA Cup place if their were in the Premiership, but there is no way they were get anywhere near challenging for the top.
So this season the Premiership has been a three horse race yes, but at least there is an opportunity in the Premiership for a team to finish fourth get a Champions League place and then build on that with the extra revenue they receive. That same chance doesn't exist in the Scottish league at all. It is also not like there have only ever been two teams who have dominated in England. Bar a few teams competing with them every now and again, Rangers & Celtic between them have won the large majority of Scottish championships, look at the English league, and there are at least 5, 6 or 7 teams who have at one point or another been the top team in the country for a sustained period.
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The fact that had their best teams out doesn't mean anything, because its just a pre-season friendly, you cannot count results in club friendlies for anything, look at the players Celtic have, most of them are Premiership rejects, therefore at best them might fight for a UEFA Cup place if their were in the Premiership, but there is no way they were get anywhere near challenging for the top.
So this season the Premiership has been a three horse race yes, but at least there is an opportunity in the Premiership for a team to finish fourth get a Champions League place and then build on that with the extra revenue they receive. That same chance doesn't exist in the Scottish league at all. It is also not like there have only ever been two teams who have dominated in England. Bar a few teams competing with them every now and again, Rangers & Celtic between them have won the large majority of Scottish championships, look at the English league, and there are at least 5, 6 or 7 teams who have at one point or another been the top team in the country for a sustained period.
see you don't even have your facts right
you are also not even reading what other people are saying coz if u were u wouldve seen the posts about dundee utd and aberdeen
celtic and rangers are the biggest teams in scotland and have the best history
but take 10 years ago as an example - celtic were finishing 4th in the league and bs like that
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The fact that had their best teams out doesn't mean anything, because its just a pre-season friendly, you cannot count results in club friendlies for anything, look at the players Celtic have, most of them are Premiership rejects, therefore at best them might fight for a UEFA Cup place if their were in the Premiership, but there is no way they were get anywhere near challenging for the top.
So this season the Premiership has been a three horse race yes, but at least there is an opportunity in the Premiership for a team to finish fourth get a Champions League place and then build on that with the extra revenue they receive. That same chance doesn't exist in the Scottish league at all. It is also not like there have only ever been two teams who have dominated in England. Bar a few teams competing with them every now and again, Rangers & Celtic between them have won the large majority of Scottish championships, look at the English league, and there are at least 5, 6 or 7 teams who have at one point or another been the top team in the country for a sustained period.
Well then with ur intelligent first remark about its only pre season, that leaves Celtic 100% in competitive mathces in recent matches with premiership clubs
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Yes, they are 100% in their last two ties against English opposition, I'm not disputing that, it was the fact that friendly victories over Man Utd suddenly means they are going to be Premiership title challengers that I find laughable. Its obvious they would be a mid table Premiership side.
And Mac_10 I did read the remarks about Dundee & Aberdeen, and if you noticed what I said was "except for a few teams every now and again", I wasn't discounting them, I was just saying that Rangers & Celtic have dominated the Scottish league for the majority of the years in which it has been run.
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Yes, they are 100% in their last two ties against English opposition, I'm not disputing that, it was the fact that friendly victories over Man Utd suddenly means they are going to be Premiership title challengers that I find laughable. Its obvious they would be a mid table Premiership side.
And Mac_10 I did read the remarks about Dundee & Aberdeen, and if you noticed what I said was "except for a few teams every now and again", I wasn't discounting them, I was just saying that Rangers & Celtic have dominated the Scottish league for the majority of the years in which it has been run.
yeh nobody is disputing that Celtic and Rangers have dominated but at the end of the day we will never know how celtic would get on as they won't be moving anyway so concerning where they would end up in the league, i guess we will just have to agree to disagree