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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Perfection on March 21, 2005, 12:22:02 PM
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Marty Jannetty signed a contract with WWE after wrestling Kurt Angle on SmackDown!.
Looks like he'll be on Raw seeing that Janetty will be working with Shawn Michaels on house shows following WrestleMania. The two will once again team to form The Rockers
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LMAO, is this for real, they are really gonna reunite The Rockers, that will be hilarious watching them two now they are much older, can't see them quite being the high flying pair they previously were.
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bad move. jannetys been in the sport for a hundred years and he still looks incredibly green. after every offensive move he gets up and cheers and he cant talk. sure he had a good match with angle, but its angle. if they cant do anything with paul london, what are they gonna do with this relic?
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bad move. jannetys been in the sport for a hundred years and he still looks incredibly green. after every offensive move he gets up and cheers and he cant talk. sure he had a good match with angle, but its angle. if they cant do anything with paul london, what are they gonna do with this relic?
How is Jannetty still green? He was a high calibre performer in the 80s.
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im not saying he should be, im saying he is. i cant explain it, he still looks uncomfortable out there and he doesnt know how to put a match together
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He'll be gone in 3 months
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He'll be gone in 3 months
chuuch
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if they can put on a decent show, i will be happy
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im not saying he should be, im saying he is. i cant explain it, he still looks uncomfortable out there and he doesnt know how to put a match together
I thought that match with Angle was one of the best WWE TV matches I've seen a really long time. I know he was in there with Angle, but he still made his spots with Grenier look passable, and that is quite the feat.
If the Jannetty/Angle match wasn't well put together, I'd like to hear what you think is a well put together match.
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Did you not see Michaels & Janetty team last week? No ring rust, basically picked up where they left off 12 years ago.
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i saw it and i disagree and i guess after a few weeks of watching him wrestle, we will see who changes their opinion of him. personally, i think once the 'i-remember-that-guy' aspect wears thin, you will see an aging - yet still green - wrestler who can not talk and has the charisma of Test.
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if those old guys can still move around, i will check it out
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i saw it and i disagree and i guess after a few weeks of watching him wrestle, we will see who changes their opinion of him. personally, i think once the 'i-remember-that-guy' aspect wears thin, you will see an aging - yet still green - wrestler who can not talk and has the charisma of Test.
I never said I think he'll do amazing, but to make an opinion off of one match the calibre of Kurt/Jannetty is just foolish. Name me some recent good matches.If you say anything involving Kane, I will never speak wrestling with you again.
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the HBK vs Edge match with the angle run-in was the last good wwe match that comes to mind. kidman and london on SD last week was pretty good. i liked Hardy and Abyss but i'm a mark for thumbtacks.and i enjoy anything with aj styles. o yea, Snitsky rules!!!
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the HBK vs Edge match with the angle run-in was the last good wwe match that comes to mind. kidman and london on SD last week was pretty good. i liked Hardy and Abyss but i'm a mark for thumbtacks.and i enjoy anything with aj styles. o yea, Snitsky rules!!!
Hardy and Abyss both suck, and I sincerely hope the Snitzky thing was a joke. Personally I think the Angle/Marty match was better than the HBK/Edge match, but I wouldn't have a problem with someone saying otherwise. All I know is I have seen Marty wrestle many times between his WWF stints and he has always done at the very least passable matches. To say he is green is ridiculous. It'd be like saying Flair is green just because he hasn't performed at a high calibre level in a long while.
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Janetty in his two matches last week looked better than half the guys on the roster. Having him and HBK team again will hopefully make the tag team division crediable again becuase right now La Resistance is the only good tag team out there and they don't even have the belts.
By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
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No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Compared to the other big men currently wrestling TODAY, Kane is one of the best as far as mobility and speed.
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many people considered Kane good, say three years ago. maybe that was just in comparison to nash
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No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Compared to the other big men currently wrestling TODAY, Kane is one of the best as far as mobility and speed.
Yeah but today there are only like 3 big men. Taker, Show and Kane. The slightly smaller big men are Sintisky, Heidenreich, JBL, and I can't think of many more. Saying Kane id the best big man in the WWE today is like saying Trish is the best woman wrestler in the WWE. Sure, she's okay, but if you throw her into a Joshi promotion in Japan she'll be far from the best. Some of the women in Japan are better than 90% of the men in North America.
and Euthansia, compared to Nash, Master P was a good wrestler.
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i think you'll find master p to be quite adept at most things in life
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If you say so. ;D
I still can't believe they did that stupid angle. It may have been the second stupidest thing WCW ever did. The stupidest thing is hands down and by far, David Arquette winning the title. I just thank God that they disassociated with the NWA years before that happenned. Otherwise when people looked at the history of the most prestigious belt in wrestling history they'd see Thesz, Rogers, Race, Flair and Arquette. And that would be mortifying.
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Jay Leno and Karl Malone would kill Nash and Master P in a tag team match.
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Jay Leno and Karl Malone would kill Nash and Master P in a tag team match.
Throw in the ICP and we got ourselves a hell of a triple threat tag match.
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Jay Leno and Karl Malone would kill Nash and Master P in a tag team match.
Throw in the ICP and we got ourselves a hell of a triple threat tag match.
Add the debut of the Shockmaster to the card and everyone can enjoy a typical WcW show.. lol
http://www.gis.net/~jspower/shockmaster.avi
Poor Tugboat... Toot!! Toot!!
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The Shockmaster will forever go down as one of the dopest debuts in wrestling history lol.
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There were times when I genuinely belived the WCW bookers were smoking solder when they thought up some of the ideas they did. Remember when Sting and Luger were going to fight Sid and Vader and after Sid and Vader came to the ring they showed a video of them blowing up Sting and Luger in a boat? Then Sting and Luger showed up all wet, because they swam to safety just before the bomb went off and made it to the arena on time. Jim Herd was a complete moron. Did you know that he wanted to get Flair to shave his head bald, wear an ear ring, a shield, and a helmet, and and call him self the Gladiator? This was after Flair was an established mega star.
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"Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years"
Hansen was such a fucking badass .
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There were times when I genuinely belived the WCW bookers were smoking solder when they thought up some of the ideas they did. Remember when Sting and Luger were going to fight Sid and Vader and after Sid and Vader came to the ring they showed a video of them blowing up Sting and Luger in a boat? Then Sting and Luger showed up all wet, because they swam to safety just before the bomb went off and made it to the arena on time. Jim Herd was a complete moron.
i never saw that. i was a wwf mark, but that is hilarious
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The Shockmaster will forever go down as one of the dopest debuts in wrestling history lol.
word loll
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*wants whatever old WCW writers were smoking*
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LOL kinda shitty move. i'd rather see the WWE push new and up and coming stars rather than an old washed up wrestler. But he did impress me with his match against Kurt Angle.
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The Rockers were always ahead of their time. If you check out their matches from 1990-1991, they had some incredible ones. I was always a huge fan, so this reunion stuff is pretty awesome, in my opinion. Jannetty was always a solid worker, so hopefully he'll have a good run and help some of the young cats out. 8)
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that shockmaster video isn't working it's only the audio, peace.
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that shockmaster video isn't working it's only the audio, peace.
..works just fine for me... might be a issue with the codecs on your pc... but don´t ask me about it...
try looking for .avi codecs and install them but I don´t really have no clue about that besides that I know it might have something to do with codes.. lol
anyway... I try to break the action down for you...
...the video starts with an interview... Sting, Davey Boy, Sid and Harlem of Heat are standing there... WCW probably planned a six man tag team match with Sid and the Heat on the one side versus Sting Bulldog and their ultimate weapon the Shockmaster .. then you can hear Sting announcing the Shockmaster.. that´s the point where the action starts... the Shockmaster is the same person that used to portray Tugboat in WWF... and he´s wearing a painted Star Wars Storm Troopers mask (no joke) ... the camera films a wall where the Shockmaster breaks through ... but all of a sudden he falls down... in that process he loses his mask... it just slips off of his head... so he picks it up , stands up and acts like nothing happened... LOL
... as far as I know that debut was planned to be a huge thing and I don´t know what... weeks of buildup and so on... then that happens... I even read that the speech the Shockmaster held came from tape and that it just came over really poor.. lol
You just gotta love WCW for those actions...
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
All I know is that when Kane or Taker are in their with average or bad wrestlers, the matches suck. If Taker was so good then his championship match with JBL wouldn't have sucked so bad. The crowd was doing the wave during the match just keep themselves entertained. As for Kane, watch how avergae his match with Benoit was from last year. If Benoit is in a bad match then that means his opponent is really bad. Of course Bret is going to praise Taker since they're friends and Taker was ready to back him after the screw job in Montreal.
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that shockmaster video isn't working it's only the audio, peace.
the vid didnt work for me either when i selected open, but when i selected save, it did. try that plz
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
All I know is that when Kane or Taker are in their with average or bad wrestlers, the matches suck. If Taker was so good then his championship match with JBL wouldn't have sucked so bad. The crowd was doing the wave during the match just keep themselves entertained. As for Kane, watch how avergae his match with Benoit was from last year. If Benoit is in a bad match then that means his opponent is really bad. Of course Bret is going to praise Taker since they're friends and Taker was ready to back him after the screw job in Montreal.
Obvisously you didn't see any of his Hell in the Cell matches. And Taker must still be doing something right because he's the most popular guy in the WWE. Ric Flair even says Taker was one of the best big men ever.
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
All I know is that when Kane or Taker are in their with average or bad wrestlers, the matches suck. If Taker was so good then his championship match with JBL wouldn't have sucked so bad. The crowd was doing the wave during the match just keep themselves entertained. As for Kane, watch how avergae his match with Benoit was from last year. If Benoit is in a bad match then that means his opponent is really bad. Of course Bret is going to praise Taker since they're friends and Taker was ready to back him after the screw job in Montreal.
Obvisously you didn't see any of his Hell in the Cell matches. And Taker must still be doing something right because he's the most popular guy in the WWE. Ric Flair even says Taker was one of the best big men ever.
Hell in a cell was a gimmick match, and the first time he was in there with HBK would carried the whole match. The second time it was Foley who bumbed around so much there is no way the match would not be entertaining. Taker is not THE most popular guy right now, it's between Cena, or Flair. Taker just seems more over because of his rare appearances. Just because he is over doesn't mean he's good in the ring. Hogan was nevcer that great and neither was Warrior. McMahon sucks in the ring but he's over huge everytime he comes out. Ric Flair also says HHH is the greatest wrestler alive today, and in interviews calls him one of the best ever.
Are you telling me that when you watch his matches with Booker, JBL, Heidenreich, Dupree, etc, you think this guy can work in the ring. He lives off of gimmick spots. Eddy is a great wrestler. Benoit is a great wrestler. Angle is a great wrestler (not as great as he was before his neck injury). Taker is a big fat gimmick with little wrrestling skill.
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
All I know is that when Kane or Taker are in their with average or bad wrestlers, the matches suck. If Taker was so good then his championship match with JBL wouldn't have sucked so bad. The crowd was doing the wave during the match just keep themselves entertained. As for Kane, watch how avergae his match with Benoit was from last year. If Benoit is in a bad match then that means his opponent is really bad. Of course Bret is going to praise Taker since they're friends and Taker was ready to back him after the screw job in Montreal.
Obvisously you didn't see any of his Hell in the Cell matches. And Taker must still be doing something right because he's the most popular guy in the WWE. Ric Flair even says Taker was one of the best big men ever.
Hell in a cell was a gimmick match, and the first time he was in there with HBK would carried the whole match. The second time it was Foley who bumbed around so much there is no way the match would not be entertaining. Taker is not THE most popular guy right now, it's between Cena, or Flair. Taker just seems more over because of his rare appearances. Just because he is over doesn't mean he's good in the ring. Hogan was nevcer that great and neither was Warrior. McMahon sucks in the ring but he's over huge everytime he comes out. Ric Flair also says HHH is the greatest wrestler alive today, and in interviews calls him one of the best ever.
Are you telling me that when you watch his matches with Booker, JBL, Heidenreich, Dupree, etc, you think this guy can work in the ring. He lives off of gimmick spots. Eddy is a great wrestler. Benoit is a great wrestler. Angle is a great wrestler (not as great as he was before his neck injury). Taker is a big fat gimmick with little wrrestling skill.
Flair is not one of the most popular guys. The Undertaker is the most popular guy in he WWE followed by Cena & Batista. I never said that FLair said that Taker was the best ever. I said Flair siad Taker was one of the best big men ever. And if Taker is as bad as you say he is than how come ever person who in the wrestling business or even knows a damn thing about wrestling all think other wise.
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is it just me or does anyone else think batista sucks, and i think it'll be a shame if or when he wins the title at wrestlemania...also, did anyone see sensational sherri come out the other night with angle, what's with all the oldies coming back, i love it, peace.
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By the way Kane is considered to be one of the best wrestlers who are big.
No he isn't. Terry Gordy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Vader, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, Giant Baba, Ray Taylor in his early years, and maybe Blackjack Mulligan. Kane is in the same boat as Sid, Undertaker, Big Show, Snitzky, Ron Reese, and JBL. Big men who suck in the ring. I don't know anyone who considers Kane a good worker, outside of you.
Back at the Armmageddon PPV when it was Kane vs Goldberg vs HHH most people say Kane made that match because he looked & worked the best out of tose three.
The Undertaker is considered to be one of the greatest big men wrestlers of all time by legends of the business like Bret Hart. "Undertaker. Despite his Frankenstein gimmick, Mark Callaway is a solid, convincing, steady, reliable wrestler."
When Bret was taking about some of the greats of the 20th century none of the big men you mentioned are on his list. He put Undertaker with the likes of Pipper, Henning, Dynamite Kid, Dory Funk Jr, Nelson Royal, Buddy Rogers, Leo Burke, Archie The Stomper Gouldie, Harley Race, Cowboy Bob Orton, Perdro Morales, Antonio Inoki. And he says Kurt Angle is the best today.
All I know is that when Kane or Taker are in their with average or bad wrestlers, the matches suck. If Taker was so good then his championship match with JBL wouldn't have sucked so bad. The crowd was doing the wave during the match just keep themselves entertained. As for Kane, watch how avergae his match with Benoit was from last year. If Benoit is in a bad match then that means his opponent is really bad. Of course Bret is going to praise Taker since they're friends and Taker was ready to back him after the screw job in Montreal.
Obvisously you didn't see any of his Hell in the Cell matches. And Taker must still be doing something right because he's the most popular guy in the WWE. Ric Flair even says Taker was one of the best big men ever.
Hell in a cell was a gimmick match, and the first time he was in there with HBK would carried the whole match. The second time it was Foley who bumbed around so much there is no way the match would not be entertaining. Taker is not THE most popular guy right now, it's between Cena, or Flair. Taker just seems more over because of his rare appearances. Just because he is over doesn't mean he's good in the ring. Hogan was nevcer that great and neither was Warrior. McMahon sucks in the ring but he's over huge everytime he comes out. Ric Flair also says HHH is the greatest wrestler alive today, and in interviews calls him one of the best ever.
Are you telling me that when you watch his matches with Booker, JBL, Heidenreich, Dupree, etc, you think this guy can work in the ring. He lives off of gimmick spots. Eddy is a great wrestler. Benoit is a great wrestler. Angle is a great wrestler (not as great as he was before his neck injury). Taker is a big fat gimmick with little wrrestling skill.
Flair is not one of the most popular guys. The Undertaker is the most popular guy in he WWE followed by Cena & Batista. I never said that FLair said that Taker was the best ever. I said Flair siad Taker was one of the best big men ever. And if Taker is as bad as you say he is than how come ever person who in the wrestling business or even knows a damn thing about wrestling all think other wise.
You don't think Flair is one of the most popular? The guy is a heel and everyone time he even appears on the screen all I hear is "whoooooo", both on TV and when I'm there live.
As for Taker, I'm not sure what wrestling experts you're referring to but every wrestling forum I've been to doesn't think Taker's workrate is anything past average on his best night, and terrible on his worst. Every wrestling fan I know thinks the same. Dave Meltzer shares that same opinion, and Dave is far more of an authority than you or I.
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cant believe so many ppl like wrestling .. its not even wrestling anymore its a fuckin talk show
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cant believe so many ppl like wrestling .. its not even wrestling anymore its a fuckin talk show
I know, it's hard, but it's habit. I try and watch a lot of Japanese wrestling. That's where it's at for "wrestling" fans. At least for pro wrestling. I've recently heard about a promotion called RPW (Real Pro Wrestling) about to come out, and it's going to be real wrestling like it was back in the early 1900s, when it was George Hackenschmidt and Frank Gotch. It's not as fast and entertaining, but if you understand it it's amazing. I hope it really takes off.
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