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Title: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 03:59:36 PM
Alright...Lakers have been playing like garbage and I haven't been very happy. I've been down with the Lakers since I was born, so I have to get to the bottom of this...Provided the players they have, Lakers can easily be a force in the NBA, but right now there's no chemistry, no experienced coaching, no teamwork, no defensive efforts, no independance (other than Kobe, of course)....The Lakers need someone to bring them together, someone to place the players in their correct roles, someone to inspire, and most of all, someone to coach them back to the top...Rudy Tomjanavich wasn't bad, but he didn't get to finish what he started...Look at their record month by month, when Frank Hamblen stepped in the wrong position as head coach, everything started going downhill...


Pre-season: 6-2
November: 9-6
December: 6-6
January: 8-7

Total: 29-21


As you can see, the first few months when the Lakers were playing under Rudy-T, they weren't playing bad at all...Now Frank Hamblen  stepped in as head coach on February 2nd...In between Rudy's resignation and Kobe's injury, the Lakers seemed to have given up hope...Look at their record after Frank Hamblen became head coach...

February: 5-8
March: 5-11

Total: 10-19


Coincidence? I think not...Now what the Lakers need to do is pursue Phil Jackson...I'm not saying Phil will turn the same Lakers into championship contenders, but he can easily make them a force, and with a few slight modifications, they can easily become contenders...Now I have provided proof that the mid-season coach switch really affected the Lakers, so I hope the Lakers orginazation does something about it and I hope they do it quick...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 06:56:32 PM
i dont think its Hamblen's fault man. Isnt he running the same system that was in place to begin with? Its the players not responding. When Rudy T went out, im sure it was a blow to the team. A team like the Lakers, with the success over the last few years, and with all the talk of them not even making the playoffs this year, had a very fragile confidence. Rudy leaving, killed it. It was the players job to respond, Kobe's job to lead. None of that happened, and now the easy scapegoat is Hamblen.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 02, 2005, 07:00:28 PM
Hamblen can't reach the players, he's not a head coach, he's not meant for this job...Lakers play like they lost hope.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: hisairness on April 02, 2005, 07:03:49 PM
You have to look at the T-Wolves.  Who can say Flip Saunders wasn't a good coach?  The players were having problems of their own and weren't focusing on what he had to say.

The Lakers just had too many issues going around.  I don't think it would've mattered who came in after Rudy T, things wouldn't have gotten better.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 02, 2005, 07:06:37 PM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: KING VerbalAssaulta on April 03, 2005, 10:54:00 AM
its called an early soft schedule...i tried telling everyone they'd be a 500 team way before the season started...and i was wrong...they're worse  8)  good job kobe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 03, 2005, 01:08:15 PM
You have to look at the T-Wolves.  Who can say Flip Saunders wasn't a good coach?  The players were having problems of their own and weren't focusing on what he had to say.

The Lakers just had too many issues going around.  I don't think it would've mattered who came in after Rudy T, things wouldn't have gotten better.


T-Wolves are in a completely different situation than the Lakers...The T-Wolves stayed with basically the same roster, but have been playing shitty due to injuries (Cassel), lack of ambition (Sprewell), and subsiding chemistry...Lakers, on the other hand, are a brand new team who are yet to play together as a team...That's where the need for a fitting coach steps in...Lakers can easily be so much more than what they are...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 03, 2005, 01:15:42 PM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.


Hell yea Kobe did...Kobe's been guiding the players more than Frank Hamblen, don't you ever see him play? All of LA has been talking about how Kobe is doing Hamblen's job, encouraging the players, letting them know when they're playing out of position, etc....It's been known...But obviously, they still need a coach...The Bulls wouldn't have gone anywhere if Jordan was their only coach...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 03, 2005, 01:23:45 PM
its called an early soft schedule...i tried telling everyone they'd be a 500 team way before the season started...and i was wrong...they're worse  8)  good job kobe


It has nothing to do with the scheduale, Lakers have had a pretty evened out scheduale, it's just that they've been losing to good AND bad teams lately...Kobe's the only part of the organization that isn't the problem...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: hisairness on April 03, 2005, 06:06:30 PM
its called an early soft schedule...i tried telling everyone they'd be a 500 team way before the season started...and i was wrong...they're worse  8)  good job kobe


It has nothing to do with the scheduale, Lakers have had a pretty evened out scheduale, it's just that they've been losing to good AND bad teams lately...Kobe's the only part of the organization that isn't the problem...

How is Kobe the only part that isn't a problem?  He doesn't trust his teammates or give them a chance to play.  Why do you think that everybody is standing around watching Kobe?  It reminds me of that movie "Celtic Pride."  The Utah Jazz have a player who never passes the ball, so his teammates just watch.  At the end of the movie, he does pass the ball and it smacks his teammate in the side of the head because he didn't expect it.

Anyway, that just popped in my head.  I'm not trying to start an argument, I just want to know your view of how Kobe isn't a problem in the organization.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 04, 2005, 01:36:16 AM
its called an early soft schedule...i tried telling everyone they'd be a 500 team way before the season started...and i was wrong...they're worse  8)  good job kobe


It has nothing to do with the scheduale, Lakers have had a pretty evened out scheduale, it's just that they've been losing to good AND bad teams lately...Kobe's the only part of the organization that isn't the problem...

How is Kobe the only part that isn't a problem?  He doesn't trust his teammates or give them a chance to play.  Why do you think that everybody is standing around watching Kobe?  It reminds me of that movie "Celtic Pride."  The Utah Jazz have a player who never passes the ball, so his teammates just watch.  At the end of the movie, he does pass the ball and it smacks his teammate in the side of the head because he didn't expect it.

Anyway, that just popped in my head.  I'm not trying to start an argument, I just want to know your view of how Kobe isn't a problem in the organization.


LOL, Kobe isn't even considered a ballhog by haters anymore, you're living in the past, there's stats that prove against that, such as his team-high average 6 assists...It's already been known that Kobe is like a mentor to these players and is trying to get the players involved as much as possible...But unfortunately, the players rely on Kobe to take care of things... They just all stand around the 3-point line and fire up shots as soon as they get the ball...People like you make me laugh, because you probably haven't seen a Laker game all season, yet you're trying to tell me how the Lakers play and why they're playing that way... ::)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: acbaylove on April 04, 2005, 01:51:52 AM
The truth is in the middle. Kobe is a guy who gets other teammates involved in 3/4 of the match, usually. He's averaging 6 assists per game, an impressive stat for a SG (he's in the top15 of the whole NBA). But he's not an assist-man, anyway. The "problem" is that in the 4th quarter usually he takes 90% of the shots, even if doubled or tripled. And he forces a lot of shot, so that produces a lot of turnovers. It happened with Shaq in the team too, cause Phil didnt want Shaq to go to the charity line having a 0/2 performance. So, you know, to shoot 90% of the times in the 4th quarter was his job with Shaq, and it's his job in todays post-Shaq Lakers too. There's only a difference: Shaq. Those players gotta understand that they dont have Shaq in their team, so they cant let Kobe play alone. They should try to take some responsabilities more. Lakers coach said several times that Odom should be more selfish, cause he's like afraid to take a pass from Kobe. Odom is the one who's not taking his responsabilities, and he has admitted it. There's a game Lakers have lost, i think against Golden State, where Kobe had the ball for the last shot, he passed it to Walton, and Walton instead of shooting from 3pts (he was alone!), he gave the ball back to Kobe, and time expired. I think that's the best photography of the season!! Lakers teammates needs to be more involved!! That's the key! And, to back on topic, that's a work the coach should handle, not Kobe. So yes, the Lakers need a good coach.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 04, 2005, 02:19:27 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

Hell yea Kobe did...Kobe's been guiding the players more than Frank Hamblen, don't you ever see him play? All of LA has been talking about how Kobe is doing Hamblen's job, encouraging the players, letting them know when they're playing out of position, etc....It's been known...But obviously, they still need a coach...The Bulls wouldn't have gone anywhere if Jordan was their only coach...

Being a leader on the team isnt about telling everyone what to do. Hell, Vlade probably has more basketball knowledge then Kobe, based on league experience. Its about motivating your teammates. If Kobe wants to win as bad as u say he does, he has to get everyone else to want it just as bad. If not, theyll just keep losing. Thats where he's failing as a leader. Directing traffic on the court is the easy part.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 04, 2005, 08:33:13 PM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

Hell yea Kobe did...Kobe's been guiding the players more than Frank Hamblen, don't you ever see him play? All of LA has been talking about how Kobe is doing Hamblen's job, encouraging the players, letting them know when they're playing out of position, etc....It's been known...But obviously, they still need a coach...The Bulls wouldn't have gone anywhere if Jordan was their only coach...

Being a leader on the team isnt about telling everyone what to do. Hell, Vlade probably has more basketball knowledge then Kobe, based on league experience. Its about motivating your teammates. If Kobe wants to win as bad as u say he does, he has to get everyone else to want it just as bad. If not, theyll just keep losing. Thats where he's failing as a leader. Directing traffic on the court is the easy part.



He does wanna win, but given what he has he's done all he could...There's not much more he can do, he might as well be the team mascot too...He doesn't have much to work with, that's all I'm saying...Jordan obviously had much more than what Kobe has now...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: King Of L.A. on April 05, 2005, 02:11:18 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 05, 2005, 02:21:28 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: King Of L.A. on April 05, 2005, 02:40:56 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...

the fact that u point out my sig to validate your statement proves that you have a weak argument.  what u said is 100% bullshit. theres 12 other players on the roster. are u gonna blame kobe for tierre brown playing awful every night? the team sucks period. is that so hard to understand? You Lost period. fuck outta here white boy.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 05, 2005, 02:58:34 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...

the fact that u point out my sig to validate your statement proves that you have a weak argument.  what u said is 100% bullshit. theres 12 other players on the roster. are u gonna blame kobe for tierre brown playing awful every night? the team sucks period. is that so hard to understand? You Lost period. fuck outta here white boy.

white boy? lol. Now i know you fuckin stupid. Youre obviously just some bitch ass Kobe dickrider that thinks he cant do anything wrong. Take that shit to back to LA.  Like i said, the rest of the world see's what im talkin about except for u few blind laker fans...wait, not laker fans....kobe fans. If the so called "leader" isnt to blame when the team loses....then dont give him the credit when the team wins. A real leader places the blame on his own shoulders when his team loses. Looks at himeself and wonders what he coulda done better. If you think Kobe's that type of guy behind the camera...then i wanna do business with you homeboy, cus you a sucka. Id back him up a lil if his attitude was better. But he's a selfish little bitch....one day yall will open your eyes.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: King Of L.A. on April 05, 2005, 03:09:49 AM
you obvious some euro fag who doesn't watch basketball. i would say he was selfish when he first came into the league. the first 2 yrs he was a ball hog but kobe is far from selfish now. ask yourself how does someone who averages the most assist on the team selfish? that alone proves your argument is bullshit. you lost faggot. get the fuck outta here. you're not qualified to talk about basketball.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: 7even on April 05, 2005, 06:39:01 AM
LoL@not being qualified to talk about basketball when you are from Europe and/or white.
The most funny thing is: If a black person has a nice job, and wears a suit, (white thing) he's successful and shit, positive. If an American talks about soccer, he's open minded and shit, positive. If a white dude wears shiny hiphop gear he's a wigger, negative. If a European talks about basketball he automatically doesnt know shit and is a wannabe and also a hypocrite if he is against the Bush lol, negative.
I love double standards. Asshole.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Chad on April 05, 2005, 09:36:17 AM
anytime u have a selfish knucklehead like bryant on ur team, odds are not good....he could get away with it while shaq was there, butnow he's done
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: hisairness on April 05, 2005, 09:46:59 AM
LoL@not being qualified to talk about basketball when you are from Europe and/or white.
The most funny thing is: If a black person has a nice job, and wears a suit, (white thing) he's successful and shit, positive. If an American talks about soccer, he's open minded and shit, positive. If a white dude wears shiny hiphop gear he's a wigger, negative. If a European talks about basketball he automatically doesnt know shit and is a wannabe and also a hypocrite if he is against the Bush lol, negative.
I love double standards. Asshole.

LMAO!  Speak up man, speak up!

Like the guy said earlier, there is a medium.  Kobe plays unselfishly for a while, then he decides to take this over by himself and starts jacking up stupid shots.  One can argue that he is a team player...and one can argue that he's selfish.  Kobe does both.  A good player knows when to be selfish and when to be a team player.  Jordan earned his team's respect by taking over when he had to, but he could come right back down to earth and pass the ball to Kerr or Paxson to win the game.  Kobe goes up and starts taking over and never comes back down.  Kobe has killed his team in the fourth quarter by taking a lot of uneccesary shots.  That is why, when Walton passed up and gave the ball back to Kobe, the team lost.  Imagine what was going through Walton's head..."Okay, Kobe's got it, time's winding down...come on Kobe, shoot it, you know you want to...WHAT THE FUCK!  He's passing it!  Give it back moron, he doesn't want you to have the ball!"
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2005, 09:52:31 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2005, 09:56:59 AM
LoL@not being qualified to talk about basketball when you are from Europe and/or white.
The most funny thing is: If a black person has a nice job, and wears a suit, (white thing) he's successful and shit, positive. If an American talks about soccer, he's open minded and shit, positive. If a white dude wears shiny hiphop gear he's a wigger, negative. If a European talks about basketball he automatically doesnt know shit and is a wannabe and also a hypocrite if he is against the Bush lol, negative.
I love double standards. Asshole.

LMAO!  Speak up man, speak up!

Like the guy said earlier, there is a medium.  Kobe plays unselfishly for a while, then he decides to take this over by himself and starts jacking up stupid shots.  One can argue that he is a team player...and one can argue that he's selfish.  Kobe does both.  A good player knows when to be selfish and when to be a team player.  Jordan earned his team's respect by taking over when he had to, but he could come right back down to earth and pass the ball to Kerr or Paxson to win the game.  Kobe goes up and starts taking over and never comes back down.  Kobe has killed his team in the fourth quarter by taking a lot of uneccesary shots.  That is why, when Walton passed up and gave the ball back to Kobe, the team lost.  Imagine what was going through Walton's head..."Okay, Kobe's got it, time's winding down...come on Kobe, shoot it, you know you want to...WHAT THE FUCK!  He's passing it!  Give it back moron, he doesn't want you to have the ball!"


Naww, you see, the thing is Walton isn't a Kerr or Paxson...Lakers don't have those players, Kerr and Paxson were smart players who knew what to do when it came down to it... Who drew up the plays and told them what to do? That's right...Phil Jackson, the COACH...You idiots just keep proving my point furthermore without realiztion...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 05, 2005, 09:58:56 AM
you obvious some euro fag who doesn't watch basketball. i would say he was selfish when he first came into the league. the first 2 yrs he was a ball hog but kobe is far from selfish now. ask yourself how does someone who averages the most assist on the team selfish? that alone proves your argument is bullshit. you lost faggot. get the fuck outta here. you're not qualified to talk about basketball.

Check this out, im from San Diego dummy. And before u argue back, u should actually read...and TRY to understand what you are reading fool. Selfish doesnt just mean ON the court, its overall. He's a spoiled little brat, fact. If tha attention aint on him...he's gonna cry, bitch, and moan until it is. And this time, he bitched and moaned enough to make the Lakers a losing organization this year. He basically killed his reputation this year. The funny thing is, he wanted the spotlight. Now he got it, and he isnt even considered one of the top 3, 4 players in the league. When Shaq was there, Kobe was considered one of the top 3, 4 in the league....and by some even number 1 or 2 in the league. As for tha Europeans on here...tha only reason u dissed them is cus they didnt agree with your retarded opinion. We have far better players here in the US, but maybe Kobe should go to Europe for a while and learn how to play team ball lol
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 05, 2005, 10:00:26 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2005, 10:03:39 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.


You're implying that the Lakers don't really need a coach, that they should be able to win with just Kobe's motivation in place of a real head coach...Do you realize how stupid that really sounds?
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 05, 2005, 10:05:27 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.


You're implying that the Lakers don't really need a coach, that they should be able to win with just Kobe's motivation in place of a real head coach...Do you realize how stupid that really sounds?

do u realize how stupid it sounds for u to argue, when you dont even understand what the other person is saying? lol Go on...keep going back n forth with yourself. It only makes u look dumber.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2005, 10:09:44 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.


You're implying that the Lakers don't really need a coach, that they should be able to win with just Kobe's motivation in place of a real head coach...Do you realize how stupid that really sounds?

do u realize how stupid it sounds for u to argue, when you dont even understand what the other person is saying? lol Go on...keep going back n forth with yourself. It only makes u look dumber.


I do realize what you were saying, you don't realize yourself, cuz you're an idiot...You're blaming Kobe for not motivating the Lakers and for the Lakers being shitty when they don't even have a real coach...Kobe's a proven champion, so by doing that you're only making yourself look even dumber than you are...Kobe's not to blame, you can't expect one player to turn a shitty team around and make them awesome...You need more pieces to fill in the puzzle...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: hisairness on April 05, 2005, 03:04:36 PM
You seriously need to look away from the Kobe-Light...that fucker's got you wrapped around his little finger and he doesn't even know you. 
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 05, 2005, 08:56:01 PM
Suck a dick muthafucka, just because I believe Kobe is a great player doesn't make me a dickrider. People like you are simply haters....
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 06, 2005, 08:32:26 AM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.


You're implying that the Lakers don't really need a coach, that they should be able to win with just Kobe's motivation in place of a real head coach...Do you realize how stupid that really sounds?

do u realize how stupid it sounds for u to argue, when you dont even understand what the other person is saying? lol Go on...keep going back n forth with yourself. It only makes u look dumber.


I do realize what you were saying, you don't realize yourself, cuz you're an idiot...You're blaming Kobe for not motivating the Lakers and for the Lakers being shitty when they don't even have a real coach...Kobe's a proven champion, so by doing that you're only making yourself look even dumber than you are...Kobe's not to blame, you can't expect one player to turn a shitty team around and make them awesome...You need more pieces to fill in the puzzle...PeACe

correction, u cant expect Kobe to turn a shitty team around. Like i said, its fine...dont blame Kobe when the team doesnt step up...but also dont give him the credit when they win. As for pieces to the puzzle....Phil has won championships without Kobe or Shaq. Shaq has gone to the finals, and has a good opportunity to win a championship this year, without Kobe or Phil.  Kobe...well, surprise surprise. He's now the "leader" of the second best team in LA. lol
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 06, 2005, 03:05:42 PM
Lakers play like they lost hope.

thats what im sayin tho, they lost hope when Rudy T retired. It was Kobe's job to get the team going, he's supposed to be the leader. The coach is the coach, but every team needs a leader on the floor, in the locker room, etc. Kobe didnt step up to that challenge.

you're a stupid moron. what do u mean he hasn't stepped up to the challenge? i bet u havn't watched one laker game all season. you're just going by their record. kobe is always talking to his teamates on the floor, trying to lead them. Frank Hamblin is a horrible coach bottom line.. hes might be a good assistant but thats as far as he'll go in NBA. Lakers had a winning record when Rudy T was their. once he leaves, everything went down the drain.

look at the Denver Nuggets. Earlier this season they were on there way to be the worst team in the NBA  Now look at them Once George Karl took over they're a totally diffrent team and playing the best basketball in the NBA right now. That just shows you how important a coach could be.

Lakers need to get a Larry Brown. Hes a winner. LA also needs to make alot of trades this offseason. This team was horribly put together by Mitch Kupchak. He should be fired.  As long as LA has point guards like chucky atkins & tierre brown they will never be a playoff team.

you arent allowed to comment, u have a picture of Kobe in your sig lol. How is this "leadership" thing so difficult to understand for some of you retards? Directing players ON the court, isnt necessarily "leading". Its about motivating them. Obviously Kobe doesnt motivate them. Just because he "talks" to them on the court, doesnt mean SHIT. If one approach to motivating doesnt work...a "leader" will find another that does. Every one of u Kobe fans finds a new person or persons to blame for everything. Never once saying that the so called "leader" is to blame for the team bein shitty. If the team was winning, youd be the first to say how he should be the MVP. But when they lose...its everyone elses fault. Get off his dick...


You're 100% right! Teams don't need coaches anymore, they only need star players for motivation!...You're really dumber than I thought, man...

read it again and figure out where i said teams dont need coached...then respond.


You're implying that the Lakers don't really need a coach, that they should be able to win with just Kobe's motivation in place of a real head coach...Do you realize how stupid that really sounds?

do u realize how stupid it sounds for u to argue, when you dont even understand what the other person is saying? lol Go on...keep going back n forth with yourself. It only makes u look dumber.


I do realize what you were saying, you don't realize yourself, cuz you're an idiot...You're blaming Kobe for not motivating the Lakers and for the Lakers being shitty when they don't even have a real coach...Kobe's a proven champion, so by doing that you're only making yourself look even dumber than you are...Kobe's not to blame, you can't expect one player to turn a shitty team around and make them awesome...You need more pieces to fill in the puzzle...PeACe

correction, u cant expect Kobe to turn a shitty team around. Like i said, its fine...dont blame Kobe when the team doesnt step up...but also dont give him the credit when they win. As for pieces to the puzzle....Phil has won championships without Kobe or Shaq. Shaq has gone to the finals, and has a good opportunity to win a championship this year, without Kobe or Phil.  Kobe...well, surprise surprise. He's now the "leader" of the second best team in LA. lol


Kobe will never get the full credit for any winning team he's on, you're just stating a given...You think Jordan got all of the credit when the Bulls 3peated twice? If you do, you thought wrong...I dunno, I'm high right now and your posts don't seem to make much sense because they're pointless...Phil doesn't have a championship without at least 2 superstars on his team...Shaq has never won a championship without another superstar on his team...Jordan never won a championship without another superstar on his team...You see where I'm coming from yet, or do I need to elaborate a little more? The Heat blew out the Bulls, a hot team which was on a 9 game winning streak, without Shaq last night...What does that say about Shaq? He's not even the most valuable player on his own team...I know you have to understand what I'm saying...Just be a little more open-minded...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: 7even on April 06, 2005, 03:16:25 PM
Well, Im tired of all that. Let us focus on the playoffs, not on that .400 team anymore. Im not gonna comment on the Lakers until they got their shit together. It's playoff-time soon, fellas.

Here some words to yall Laker fans, straight from 7even's heart:

It's said something good won't last forever
I know too much of anything is bad, whatever
long as we have good and bad times together,
bad times make the good times that much better

-Rakim
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 06, 2005, 04:02:13 PM
Well, Im tired of all that. Let us focus on the playoffs, not on that .400 team anymore. Im not gonna comment on the Lakers until they got their shit together. It's playoff-time soon, fellas.

Here some words to yall Laker fans, straight from 7even's heart:

It's said something good won't last forever
I know too much of anything is bad, whatever
long as we have good and bad times together,
bad times make the good times that much better

-Rakim



We'll see about that next year...Hopefully Lakers have a coach by then.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on April 06, 2005, 04:08:07 PM
offseason goals:

Get a head coach
Point Guard (Chucky Atkins is too small, can't defend)
Center (Chris Mihm is more of a power forward)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 06, 2005, 10:43:59 PM
offseason goals:

Get a head coach
Point Guard (Chucky Atkins is too small, can't defend)
Center (Chris Mihm is more of a power forward)


See, they don't even really have to get rid of players like Chris Mihm and Chucky Atkins...Chris Mihm actually has some potential to be a dangerous center, but he's just not playing on that level now, I know Phil Jackson can get him there...Chucky Atkins would actually be a really good role playe or a 6th man...What the Lakers really need though is another player who can take some weight off of Kobe's shoulders, a player who can work under Kobe, yet has perfected his game and plays on an All-Star level...Lamar Odom has great potential to be that player, but his confidence and his skill are in two different universes...So if Lamar Odom doesn't wake up and bust his ass until he's perfected his game this summer, the Lakers will need to acquire another player who's willing to play that role...Now that I think about it, Carlos Boozer woulda' been an excellent addition...Too bad that trade (Butler and George for Boozer) never happened...Oh well, this summer should be interesting for the Lakers...Lets see what they do...PeACe
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 07, 2005, 08:29:03 AM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 07, 2005, 08:37:45 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.



 ::)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 08, 2005, 01:21:55 AM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.



 ::)

glad u agree.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: acbaylove on April 08, 2005, 12:41:56 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 08, 2005, 07:17:40 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.



 ::)

glad u agree.


I don't, you moron...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 08, 2005, 07:18:51 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.



Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: ecrazy on April 08, 2005, 08:03:49 PM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: acbaylove on April 09, 2005, 06:11:32 AM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.

Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen

Exactly.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: acbaylove on April 09, 2005, 06:12:45 AM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)

He's always there, it's not a surprise. He goes to pratice too. And yes, he's still the boyfriend of Jerry's daughter.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: doubletrouble™ on April 09, 2005, 12:09:47 PM
Lol @ tha coach being tha excuse for tha Lakers failure.........if they had tha same team as last season and they were losin' like this what will tha excuse be....... ???
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Javier on April 09, 2005, 05:57:42 PM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)

He's always there, it's not a surprise. He goes to pratice too. And yes, he's still the boyfriend of Jerry's daughter.

lol hes not always there. 
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 06:12:30 PM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)

i dont think he will go back.......i think he will be in new york next season
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Juronimo on April 09, 2005, 06:14:36 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

I agree. I was hoping they were going to trade him last season but that's wishful thinking.

This is what they should do but it won't happen. Trade Kobe for a big man, move Lamar Odom from a PF to his natural SF position, put Caron Butler in the backcourt, he's been lighting it up lately. When Kobe was hurt, both Lamar Odom and Caron Butler were playing well, and we got a taste of what Lamar Odom is capable of.

A coaching change is obviously needed, I don't know how anyone can argue that.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: ecrazy on April 09, 2005, 06:15:56 PM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)

He's always there, it's not a surprise. He goes to pratice too. And yes, he's still the boyfriend of Jerry's daughter.

lol hes not always there.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 10, 2005, 03:10:35 AM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.



Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen

and if the team did better under Hamblen then Tomjanavich....it would be all because of Kobe, right? lol You guys are idiots. You dont realize how blind u are. if Kobe was to demand a trade, and Shaq stayed...you would all be sayin Kobe was selfish as hell. lol Gotta love fans who cant face the truth about their little heroes...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: acbaylove on April 10, 2005, 09:01:03 AM
Phil Jackson Was at the last laker home game sitting with jerry buss up in the box seats.....elaborate....might he return?? (I doubt it, but he is dating Jerry Buss's daughter aint he?)

He's always there, it's not a surprise. He goes to pratice too. And yes, he's still the boyfriend of Jerry's daughter.

lol hes not always there. 

lol, but you know, his girlfriend is, so he's often there.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2005, 09:49:28 AM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.



Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen

and if the team did better under Hamblen then Tomjanavich....it would be all because of Kobe, right? lol You guys are idiots. You dont realize how blind u are. if Kobe was to demand a trade, and Shaq stayed...you would all be sayin Kobe was selfish as hell. lol Gotta love fans who cant face the truth about their little heroes...

Yea, but Kobe WOULDN'T demand a trade...That's the whole point. If the team did better under Hamblen it'd be because Hamblen was a better coach than Rudy-T...That's only common sense, like knowing you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 10, 2005, 01:15:48 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.



Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen

and if the team did better under Hamblen then Tomjanavich....it would be all because of Kobe, right? lol You guys are idiots. You dont realize how blind u are. if Kobe was to demand a trade, and Shaq stayed...you would all be sayin Kobe was selfish as hell. lol Gotta love fans who cant face the truth about their little heroes...

Yea, but Kobe WOULDN'T demand a trade...That's the whole point. If the team did better under Hamblen it'd be because Hamblen was a better coach than Rudy-T...That's only common sense, like knowing you're an idiot.


not ONE of you would actually say that. You would just give Kobe all the credit. But when the team is losing, its everyone elses fault lol. Jesus...u guys sound like HIM. This is the point when a fan actually loves (obesessed with) a player so much, that they dont pay attention to how blind they are.
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2005, 06:31:50 PM
What they really need to do is trade Kobe. But the Laker organization would never swallow their pride and do that. It would be an admission that they made the wrong move. They could still get 2 good players for him. I dont see them winning a championship for quite a long time anyways. And Kobe's reputation around the league isnt all that great as far as being an appealing player to play with. They could start trying to build a championship callaber team, without trying to rely on one guy. Especially if the one guy isnt up to it. Build a Pistons kinda squad. One that plays together. Not one that can never get in rhythm cus only one guy takes all the shot.

Man, it's Brown who made Iverson a team player, not viceversa.
It's Brown who made those Pistons a "team".
It's Brown the Lakers needs to became a "team".
And, on a side note, Brown is probably the fav coach by Kobe atm.



Phil Jackson > Larry Brown > Rudy Tomjanavich > > > > > > > Frank Hamblen

and if the team did better under Hamblen then Tomjanavich....it would be all because of Kobe, right? lol You guys are idiots. You dont realize how blind u are. if Kobe was to demand a trade, and Shaq stayed...you would all be sayin Kobe was selfish as hell. lol Gotta love fans who cant face the truth about their little heroes...

Yea, but Kobe WOULDN'T demand a trade...That's the whole point. If the team did better under Hamblen it'd be because Hamblen was a better coach than Rudy-T...That's only common sense, like knowing you're an idiot.


not ONE of you would actually say that. You would just give Kobe all the credit. But when the team is losing, its everyone elses fault lol. Jesus...u guys sound like HIM. This is the point when a fan actually loves (obesessed with) a player so much, that they dont pay attention to how blind they are.



How do you know what I'd say? You don't know me muthafucka...I wouldn't give Kobe all the credit, I'd credit the Lakers as a team, just like I've done every year that I've been a Laker fan...Keep hating man, it's alright... 8)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: doubletrouble™ on April 10, 2005, 10:05:04 PM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2005, 11:31:55 PM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D

Date Registered:     March 01, 2004, 06:37:27 AM



Who the fuck are you? Leave this board before I ban you...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 11, 2005, 12:28:55 AM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D

Date Registered:     March 01, 2004, 06:37:27 AM



Who the fuck are you? Leave this board before I ban you...

lol just cus u have more negative karma then most people have posts. Mr Popular..
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: doubletrouble™ on April 11, 2005, 10:31:10 AM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D

Date Registered:     March 01, 2004, 06:37:27 AM



Who the fuck are you? Leave this board before I ban you...

*Yawns*...............
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 11, 2005, 10:19:29 PM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D

Date Registered:     March 01, 2004, 06:37:27 AM



Who the fuck are you? Leave this board before I ban you...

lol just cus u have more negative karma then most people have posts. Mr Popular..


And what does that say? That I'm not popular on the internet? LOL...It's funny to see you've stooped to that level, because your original argument was failing... 8)
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: 411 on April 12, 2005, 12:09:46 AM
suns sweep lakers 4-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!i actually feel sorry 4 them
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: OneHittaSpitta on April 12, 2005, 12:47:47 AM
all 4 years you been saying this............ ;D

Date Registered:     March 01, 2004, 06:37:27 AM



Who the fuck are you? Leave this board before I ban you...

lol just cus u have more negative karma then most people have posts. Mr Popular..


And what does that say? That I'm not popular on the internet? LOL...It's funny to see you've stooped to that level, because your original argument was failing... 8)

its funny that u didnt see that i was joking, u think i give a shit about your karma? lol. Plus, how was my argument failing? Its like arguing religion with Trauma. I attack with reason, you come back with blind faith. Keep hope alive man! Kobe is the next Jordan! lol Please...
Title: Re: Tell me the Lakers don't need a REAL head coach...
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 12, 2005, 03:54:05 PM
Keep Hatin'... 8)