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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Lincoln on April 03, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
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Do you feel that Mos Def should continue in his current direction (not just Hip-Hop but combining different elements of Rock, R&B, and Blues) or go back to his old style of just strictly rapping?
Personally I feel he should continue his growth as an artist. I feel that Mos could definetly be up there with music greats if he continues to release albums venturing into new territories. If he were to release 4-5 more albums over a number of years displaying the growth of The New Danger album I would be happy. However if he goes to back to rapping he'll be another rapper that eventually goes into relative obscurity.
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on one hand i'd be interested to see what happened if he continued in the direction he seemed to take with his last album but at the same time im dying to hear another pure hip hop album like black on both sides from mos...
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tbh i don´t think Mos Has the talent as a musician to be ´up there with the greats´, but still, i´d like him to explore new territories, or to keep doing so, cause it might influence hiphop and inspire other rap artists to contribute to the genre not getting stuck in repetitiousness and a general lack of innovation. A problem in hiphop today is IMO that a lot is based on the same old patterns and formulas that have become redundant, so i appreciate anybody who might pave the way for the growth and evolution of the music
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Lincoln and Kill said exactly what I was thinking fro some points. I feel if Mos goes back to just rapping his career will defintely wane andhe may becam solely an actor at that point. I want him to expand as an artist as much as possible, The New Danger wa shis first crack at that and he's done it well soo with time growth is imminent and his style will be perfected whereas in the rap game I think he's reached his pinnacle and its time for him to expand.
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Considering The New Danger was a terrible album I'm pretty such he should stick to rapping and making hip-hop tracks.
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I looked at the New danger as that CD he said he was going to put out with his group Black Jack Johnson, He Just titled it under his name....Dope CD IMO, i hope he does do more experimental things like that, i hope most artists change up their styles too, makes music more suprising and unexpected like....like "Whoa, i didnt know this dude could flow like this" kinda stuff
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i would love to hear a strictly hip hop joint like black on both sides, but i know at the same time expecting that would be extremely limiting mos defs potential as an all around musician. black on both sides is some raw ass hip hop. like in its purest form, probably my favorite cd that has come out since 2000 hands down. its in my top 15 cds too fasho. i didnt like new danger that much, but i understand where he was trying to go, and that is basically just his beginning stages of his development, and in time he will be able to solidify his skills in other forms of music to the point that he has accomplished with hip hop.
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Do you feel that Mos Def should continue in his current direction (not just Hip-Hop but combining different elements of Rock, R&B, and Blues) or go back to his old style of just strictly rapping?
Personally I feel he should continue his growth as an artist. I feel that Mos could definetly be up there with music greats if he continues to release albums venturing into new territories. If he were to release 4-5 more albums over a number of years displaying the growth of The New Danger album I would be happy. However if he goes to back to rapping he'll be another rapper that eventually goes into relative obscurity.
No way! That shows how racist society is whenever a black artist starts doing rock music they call it growth. I don't consider it growth, it's borderline selling out. He came up with a plan at his record label to attract alternative fans to his music.
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Do you feel that Mos Def should continue in his current direction (not just Hip-Hop but combining different elements of Rock, R&B, and Blues) or go back to his old style of just strictly rapping?
Personally I feel he should continue his growth as an artist. I feel that Mos could definetly be up there with music greats if he continues to release albums venturing into new territories. If he were to release 4-5 more albums over a number of years displaying the growth of The New Danger album I would be happy. However if he goes to back to rapping he'll be another rapper that eventually goes into relative obscurity.
No way! That shows how racist society is whenever a black artist starts doing rock music they call it growth. I don't consider it growth, it's borderline selling out. He came up with a plan at his record label to attract alternative fans to his music.
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Rock is Black music. Besides, he didn't just do Rock, it was more Blues/Soul than anything.
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i like that hes venturing, and i love is singing, but i agree with knuckles, i dont think its a great record, but we do need someone is the game to do inovative shit
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By the way Infinite, your post implied I was a racist. A while ago you PMed me explaining you didn't feel I should have personally attacked you, only your post. You are being a hypocrite.
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Rock is Black music. Besides, he didn't just do Rock, it was more Blues/Soul than anything.
Whatever you call it, it was 1/10th of his earlier work. Back then he was innovative. You can be innovative just staying hip-hop. When Dre and Warren G started producing the G-Funk sound that was innovative. They didn't have to cross over to be innovative. When Outkast did Bombs Over Baghdad with that techno beat, that was innovative. The way DJ Premier mixes and scratches old records to make something new and fresh is innovative. And it doesn't have to be with an instrument. The things Mos Def was rapping about made him innovative.
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By the way Infinite, your post implied I was a racist. A while ago you PMed me explaining you didn't feel I should have personally attacked you, only your post. You are being a hypocrite.
I can't account for what you think my post might have 'implied'. I have some 2pac lyrics about the Pope posted in the West Coast Forum and everyone starting taking my words and questioning whether or not 2pac predicted the Popes death! I can't help that. People take the things I say many different ways. I don't think that you are a racist, but I do think that society in general, in the West, is racist. And that's exactly what I said, that society was racist. I didn't say that you were a racist. If you have anything more to say about this issue, I will only talk to you about it through Personal Messages, because I like you, and I wouldn't say anything bad about you in public.
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hip hop hasnt really been inovative for some time... maybe an album here and there, but...
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hip hop hasnt really been inovative for some time... maybe an album here and there, but...
You mean that commercial hip-hop hasn't been innovative. Commercial hip-hop is dead, but there's always some cat on the underground somewhere that is trying something new.
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Rock is Black music. Besides, he didn't just do Rock, it was more Blues/Soul than anything.
When Dre and Warren G started producing the G-Funk sound that was innovative.
Go pick up some some old 70s funk records and then tell me Dre was innovative.
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Do you feel that Mos Def should continue in his current direction (not just Hip-Hop but combining different elements of Rock, R&B, and Blues) or go back to his old style of just strictly rapping?
Personally I feel he should continue his growth as an artist. I feel that Mos could definetly be up there with music greats if he continues to release albums venturing into new territories. If he were to release 4-5 more albums over a number of years displaying the growth of The New Danger album I would be happy. However if he goes to back to rapping he'll be another rapper that eventually goes into relative obscurity.
No way! That shows how racist society is whenever a black artist starts doing rock music they call it growth. I don't consider it growth, it's borderline selling out. He came up with a plan at his record label to attract alternative fans to his music.
give me a fuckin break. Its dumbasses like you that keep stereotypes going. Stop tryin to label shit and just listen to the music.
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hip hop hasnt really been inovative for some time... maybe an album here and there, but...
hip hop hasnt really been inovative for some time... maybe an album here and there, but...
You mean that commercial hip-hop hasn't been innovative. Commercial hip-hop is dead, but there's always some cat on the underground somewhere that is trying something new.
ok, so gimi some examples over the past 2-3 years...
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hip hop hasnt really been inovative for some time... maybe an album here and there, but...
You mean that commercial hip-hop hasn't been innovative. Commercial hip-hop is dead, but there's always some cat on the underground somewhere that is trying something new.
if there is always some cat undergground trying something new and u give him props how come it cant be the same for a commercial artist to try soemthing new? HYPOCRIT! You say Mos borderline sold out by making the New Danger to what you would call "white music" and because it isnt the same shit hes stuck to he's sold out for expanding his fan base. If you want to talk about race music ROck is not white it's black, it comes froom roots of Jazz and african rythm. Infinte you are a fuckin uneducated hypocrit if u believe Mos sold out witht he New Danger please remove his quote from your sig.
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to say that mos sold out with this record is some dumb shit
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if there is always some cat undergground trying something new and u give him props how come it cant be the same for a commercial artist to try soemthing new? HYPOCRIT! You say Mos borderline sold out by making the New Danger to what you would call "white music" and because it isnt the same shit hes stuck to he's sold out for expanding his fan base. If you want to talk about race music ROck is not white it's black, it comes froom roots of Jazz and african rythm. Infinte you are a fuckin uneducated hypocrit if u believe Mos sold out witht he New Danger please remove his quote from your sig.
^^^^ This coming from someone who is bumpin Camron... ("Hey Mama Cita, Horse and Carriage")
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if there is always some cat undergground trying something new and u give him props how come it cant be the same for a commercial artist to try soemthing new? HYPOCRIT! You say Mos borderline sold out by making the New Danger to what you would call "white music" and because it isnt the same shit hes stuck to he's sold out for expanding his fan base. If you want to talk about race music ROck is not white it's black, it comes froom roots of Jazz and african rythm. Infinte you are a fuckin uneducated hypocrit if u believe Mos sold out witht he New Danger please remove his quote from your sig.
^^^^ This coming from someone who is bumpin Camron... ("Hey Mama Cita, Horse and Carriage")
^^^^^This coming from someone who reads the works of Ibn Battuta :grumpy:....
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Please try and refrain from beefing in my thread. This is an interesting topic, I'm reading lots of different views.
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i am going to a mos def show this saturday at my college. he is coming to my campus in boston, northeastern university. i dont know much about him i just know a little bit of black on both sides, and i like his voice. is there anything i should check out before the show and would you guys recommend a live show with him since im not familiar? The rest of the show is less than jake and moby, not too happy with the selection.
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I like that Mos dont limit himself. Black On Both Sides had a few cuts where he was experimenting with some rock and r&b/jazz type singing and those were some of the best songs on the album. I like his non rap material, but I really hope he continues to put out rap albums as well.
I dont get how anybody can say he sold out just because he's doin somethin besides rap wether its another form of black music (yes rock was derived from jazz & blues and also invented by black artists) or even if it was a fuckin classical album. Artists do what the fuck they want. I think it would be sellin out to not do what you wanted to do as an artist. Real talk.
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I liked what Mos was doing with The New Danger, the album wasn't executed quite as well as it could have been, but overall I really enjoyed the album. I would like to see him continue to experiment, just because I don't feel he would be happy just doing straight hiphop tracks, and therefore they wouldn't be up to the standard of his old material anyway. He's obviously grown as an artist (and probably as a person) between BOBS and the New Danger and this is reflected in him bringing elements of other genres into his music.