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Title: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: eS El Duque on April 08, 2005, 08:23:40 PM: I believe Shaq is NBA's MVP, either him..or James if the cavs make it into the playoffs.

Nash is NO WAY, the MVP...I use to believe so, but then a friend of mine showed me the light...Jason Kidd, or any other "good" PG would be having a great season if they were on a team like Nash has. Plus, Nash sucks at defence. Pheonix losing those games without Nash, only becuase their back up PG is SHIT!

Why is Shaq MVP? Simple, do the math...

Quote from: Bill Simmons
A. The Lakers won 57 games last year ... they're headed for 35 wins this year.

B. The Heat won 42 games last year ... they're headed for 62 wins this year
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Javier on April 08, 2005, 09:07:25 PM: http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/jh_ALL_PER.htm

Cool website showing in detailed stats. That PER stat is for the most efficien player offensive wise. Garnett tops the list
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 01:32:27 AM: Quote from: eS El Duque on April 08, 2005, 08:23:40 PM
I believe Shaq is NBA's MVP, either him..or James if the cavs make it into the playoffs.

Nash is NO WAY, the MVP...I use to believe so, but then a friend of mine showed me the light...Jason Kidd, or any other "good" PG would be having a great season if they were on a team like Nash has. Plus, Nash sucks at defence. Pheonix losing those games without Nash, only becuase their back up PG is SHIT!

Why is Shaq MVP? Simple, do the math...

Quote from: Bill Simmons
A. The Lakers won 57 games last year ... they're headed for 35 wins this year.

B. The Heat won 42 games last year ... they're headed for 62 wins this year

Fuck nash? James for MVP ahead of Nash? Phoenix Back up PG = SHIT ?
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Here now you do the math.....

Phoenix without Nash last season = 29-53
Phoenix with Nash so far this season (playing or not) = Best record in league (57-18)

Nash and Phoenix dont need to play much defense for their team look at their record, then imagine if they did play just a little bit more defense.....

But well see who shoula been MVP after the Finals (thats if Miami makes it to the Finals)
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: acbaylove on April 09, 2005, 01:53:52 AM: Shaq is the most dominant player in the last 10 years. But this season i put Nash, Lebron and shit, even Wade over him. I think Shaq will be the MVP of the Finals, like usual.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: eS El Duque on April 09, 2005, 10:06:22 AM: Quote from: Javier on April 08, 2005, 09:07:25 PM
http://www.knickerblogger.net/stats/jh_ALL_PER.htm

Cool website showing in detailed stats. That PER stat is for the most efficien player offensive wise. Garnett tops the list

Dude, that's my boy! Im a huge Garnett fan..but i have to be realistic..he wont be MVP...but I do believe Garnett is THE best player in the NBA right now(waits for the kobe comments).

I don't really care what you fuckers say...Shaq WILL get MVP...who wants to bet 10 karma points ;D?

Quote from: 411 on April 09, 2005, 01:32:27 AM
Quote from: eS El Duque on April 08, 2005, 08:23:40 PM
I believe Shaq is NBA's MVP, either him..or James if the cavs make it into the playoffs.

Nash is NO WAY, the MVP...I use to believe so, but then a friend of mine showed me the light...Jason Kidd, or any other "good" PG would be having a great season if they were on a team like Nash has. Plus, Nash sucks at defence. Pheonix losing those games without Nash, only becuase their back up PG is SHIT!

Why is Shaq MVP? Simple, do the math...

Quote from: Bill Simmons
A. The Lakers won 57 games last year ... they're headed for 35 wins this year.

B. The Heat won 42 games last year ... they're headed for 62 wins this year

Fuck nash? James for MVP ahead of Nash? Phoenix Back up PG = SHIT ?
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Here now you do the math.....

Phoenix without Nash last season = 29-53
Phoenix with Nash so far this season (playing or not) = Best record in league (57-18)

Nash and Phoenix dont need to play much defense for their team look at their record, then imagine if they did play just a little bit more defense.....

But well see who shoula been MVP after the Finals (thats if Miami makes it to the Finals)

Imagine Jason Kid with Pheonix? Same story.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: eS El Duque on April 09, 2005, 10:07:14 AM: Quote from: Antonio on April 09, 2005, 01:53:52 AM
Shaq is the most dominant player in the last 10 years. But this season i put Nash, Lebron and shit, even Wade over him. I think Shaq will be the MVP of the Finals, like usual.

I put wade and lebron over Nash...even mr germany himself is ahead of Nash!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 09, 2005, 11:07:34 AM: nash is good, but over-rated : FACT
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 05:22:36 PM: Quote from: eS El Duque on April 09, 2005, 10:06:22 AM
Dude, that's my boy! Im a huge Garnett fan..but i have to be realistic..he wont be MVP...but I do believe Garnett is THE best player in the NBA right now.

I don't really care what you fuckers say...Shaq WILL get MVP...who wants to bet 10 karma points ;D?

Quote from: 411 on April 09, 2005, 01:32:27 AM
Quote from: eS El Duque on April 08, 2005, 08:23:40 PM
I believe Shaq is NBA's MVP, either him..or James if the cavs make it into the playoffs.

Nash is NO WAY, the MVP...I use to believe so, but then a friend of mine showed me the light...Jason Kidd, or any other "good" PG would be having a great season if they were on a team like Nash has. Plus, Nash sucks at defence. Pheonix losing those games without Nash, only becuase their back up PG is SHIT!

Why is Shaq MVP? Simple, do the math...

Quote from: Bill Simmons
A. The Lakers won 57 games last year ... they're headed for 35 wins this year.

B. The Heat won 42 games last year ... they're headed for 62 wins this year

Fuck nash? James for MVP ahead of Nash? Phoenix Back up PG = SHIT ?
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Here now you do the math.....

Phoenix without Nash last season = 29-53
Phoenix with Nash so far this season (playing or not) = Best record in league (57-18)

Nash and Phoenix dont need to play much defense for their team look at their record, then imagine if they did play just a little bit more defense.....

But well see who shoula been MVP after the Finals (thats if Miami makes it to the Finals)

Imagine Jason Kid with Pheonix? Same story.

Jason Kidd use to be with Phoenix......Maybe similar story different record........

Ill take that little bet of yours but if the MVP dont take his team to the finals and wins then he shouldnt of been MVP in the first place.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Javier on April 09, 2005, 05:40:11 PM: Kidd didnt have Marion, Richardson or AMare
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 05:53:47 PM: Kidd didnt but Starbury had the same starters except Q, whats ur point?
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Javier on April 09, 2005, 05:55:46 PM: Quote from: 411 on April 09, 2005, 05:53:47 PM
Kidd didnt but Starbury had the same starters except Q, whats ur point?

the suns best player is BARELY getting into his prime. Its not the same situation.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 06:08:34 PM: Quote from: Javier on April 09, 2005, 05:55:46 PM
Quote from: 411 on April 09, 2005, 05:53:47 PM
Kidd didnt but Starbury had the same starters except Q, whats ur point?
the suns best player is BARELY getting into his prime. Its not the same situation.

Quote from: 411 on April 09, 2005, 05:22:36 PM
Jason Kidd use to be with Phoenix......Maybe similar story (situation)

Plus SUNS best player (and i think you mean AMARE) was not in his prime back then (when starbury was in phoenix) nor is he know.....
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on April 09, 2005, 06:37:43 PM: im curious,does anybody think the Suns would be as good without Nash?
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 09, 2005, 06:42:20 PM: look at the games they lost without him this season.......youll find your answer there......... 8)
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 09, 2005, 10:22:57 PM: Yeah i think Shaq has the slight advantage
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Don Jacob on April 10, 2005, 02:13:58 AM: SHAQ!
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on April 10, 2005, 02:18:36 AM: Quote from: Cant C Me on April 09, 2005, 10:22:57 PM
Yeah i think Shaq has the slight advantage

I agree with you there, but i dont think he deserves it or maybe he does but not this year. It is almost gauranteed that he will win MVP. Heres why, Whens the last time a PG won MVP? How many PG's have won MVP?
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2005, 09:38:36 AM: LMAO@Shaq. He's not even the MVP of his team, let alone the league...Take Shaq off the Heat, and they'd still be a playoff team...Lakers rebuilt their whole team, they didn't JUST get rid of Shaq, like some morons are making it seem... ::)
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: white Boy on April 10, 2005, 09:56:09 AM: shaq is a monster, mvp without a doubt
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: eS El Duque on April 10, 2005, 05:02:03 PM: Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 10, 2005, 09:38:36 AM
LMAO@Shaq. He's not even the MVP of his team, let alone the league...Take Shaq off the Heat, and they'd still be a playoff team...Lakers rebuilt their whole team, they didn't JUST get rid of Shaq, like some morons are making it seem... ::)

Yea, heat will still be a playoff team without shaq...thats a lil obvious considering its the east ::)

But shaq made them #1..to WIN IT ALL! and they will. If shaq doesn't get MVP...wade or lebron will...its simple.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 10, 2005, 06:22:30 PM: Quote from: eS El Duque on April 10, 2005, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: Now_Im_Blowed on April 10, 2005, 09:38:36 AM
LMAO@Shaq. He's not even the MVP of his team, let alone the league...Take Shaq off the Heat, and they'd still be a playoff team...Lakers rebuilt their whole team, they didn't JUST get rid of Shaq, like some morons are making it seem... ::)

Yea, heat will still be a playoff team without shaq...thats a lil obvious considering its the east ::)

But shaq made them #1..to WIN IT ALL! and they will. If shaq doesn't get MVP...wade or lebron will...its simple.

No kidding, Shaq is a superstar...You have a superstar on a team and you add one more superstar to that same team, what will that team become? Twice as good...Lakers had 4 superstars last year and only one this year...Go make some sense outta that...PeACe
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: Rampant on April 10, 2005, 06:28:51 PM: i agree. I like shaq and i think he deserves it.
Title: Re: Fuck Nash, It's Shaq!
Post by: 411 on May 08, 2005, 12:46:43 PM: NASH IS FINALLY MVP