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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Fuck You, Pay Me on April 16, 2005, 04:25:30 PM
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Drop your thoughts and opinions on the issue. I'm not asking for your idea as far as a solution to the conflict goes, but rather just give your thoughts on the issue and the circumstances there. Discuss whether or not Zionists had a right to the land of Palestine, what you think about the occupation and if it's just or not, your thoughts on the settlements, etc.
Also, if you could answer one question in your post, after your thoughts and opinions, and that is: "Do you consider Israel a true democracy"?
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Long Live a free and democratic Palestine.
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i see your way of speakin has improved.....
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Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...
"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of land inhabited by dark skinned Muslims."
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Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...
"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of the Arab world. So you have all these white Jews being placed (by force) amongst all these dark skinned Muslims."
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Are you implying that the Jews didn't want to be placed in Israel, but were forced to? Because if you are then you really should be reading a lot more than just what Malcolm X has written. Malcolm X speaking on Jews in Palestine is about as relevant to me as Justin Timberlake discussind the issues between Muslims and Hindus in Kasmir.
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Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...
"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of the Arab world. So you have all these white Jews being placed (by force) amongst all these dark skinned Muslims."
This is rather an interesting concept u have to admit, since many Jews who nowadays live in Israel see it not only as their Homeland but also as some sort of a shelter from anti-semitism, The state of Israel was created as a result of the Haulacaust, to serve as some sort of a National Refuge for the Jewish people and to prevent further Bursts of Anti-semitism of the same scale. So the idea of the Jewish people being forced to live in this Land seems acceptable when u think about it.
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Malcolm X put the whole situation into plain English when he spoke on the desicion made at the UN in 1948 to create a Jewish state in Palestine (Isreal), paraphrased...
"Basically, the white powers of America and Europe, got together and decided to create a Jewish homeland in the heart of the Arab world. So you have all these white Jews being placed (by force) amongst all these dark skinned Muslims."
This is rather an interesting concept u have to admit, since many Jews who nowadays live in Israel see it not only as their Homeland but also as some sort of a shelter from anti-semitism, The state of Israel was created as a result of the Haulacaust, to serve as some sort of a National Refuge for the Jewish people and to prevent further Bursts of Anti-semitism of the same scale. So the idea of the Jewish people being forced to live in this Land seems acceptable when u think about it.
I got the impression that it was just another White people trying to keep others down type quote from Malcolm X, and the point was that it was something bad for both Palestineans and Jews. (correct me if I'm wrong Infinte). The way I see it being forced to move to Israel as a Jew post WW2 is like being forced to cash a winning lottery ticket. Every Jew on the face of the Earth already thought of Israel as the home land. Current Istanbul was once a prominant Greek city called Constantinople, before the Muslims invaded. If the UN were to step in and declare Istanbul be Constantinople once more and "force" Greeks to move there. There will not be one hesitant soul.
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You guys read that quote wrong, so I erased the paranthesis where I paraphrased. The "by force" part meant that Jews were being placed into Palestine by force, meaning that the Palestinians were resisting, yet the Jews with the help of the European powers were forcing the Muslims to accept a desicion in which they had no voice in their own affairs.
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Current Istanbul was once a prominant Greek city called Constantinople, before the Muslims invaded. If the UN were to step in and declare Istanbul be Constantinople once more and "force" Greeks to move there. There will not be one hesitant soul.
You act like we are talking about ancient history or something... There are Palestinian homes being demolished as we speak! They've demolished tens of thousands of Palestinian homes just in the last couple years! They have not stopped advancing deeper and deeper into Palestinian land (it was all Palestinian land to begin with, they changed the name from Palestine to Isreal in 1948), they are not going to stop advancing, this is the real genocide that is happening in the world.
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You guys read that quote wrong, so I erased the paranthesis where I paraphrased. The "by force" part meant that Jews were being placed into Palestine by force, meaning that the Palestinians were resisting, yet the Jews with the help of the European powers were forcing the Muslims to accept a desicion in which they had no voice in their own affairs.
Oh, in that case, I completely agree.
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Current Istanbul was once a prominant Greek city called Constantinople, before the Muslims invaded. If the UN were to step in and declare Istanbul be Constantinople once more and "force" Greeks to move there. There will not be one hesitant soul.
You act like we are talking about ancient history or something... There are Palestinian homes being demolished as we speak! They've demolished tens of thousands of Palestinian homes just in the last couple years! They have not stopped advancing deeper and deeper into Palestinian land (it was all Palestinian land to begin with, they changed the name from Palestine to Isreal in 1948), they are not going to stop advancing, this is the real genocide that is happening in the world.
Ancient? Greece and Turkey have fought up until the 70s, and war is teased every couple years. There is nothing ancient about what happens between Greece and Turkey. Turkey keeps trying to invade land that Greece won back, and they probably always will.
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ok look at it this way... the jewish people were gonna be wiped off the earth, they were saved and offered their own country (unjustly for the land that was taken from the people that live there, i'll admit) but this was done to prevent any further anti jewish acts
then the palestinians turn around and say that they will not deal with the jews and they will not rest until they are all wiped from the land.
you muslims on this board would be having a fit if america almost wipes out all muslims....they don't succeed, the muslims get some land next to england...then england says they are going to wipe them all out again
i admit, taking land from one group of people and giving it to another is fucked up...bottom line. but when peace talks were completely thrown out the window, what did you think was going to happen? "ok jews, we fucked up, they don't want you here....we'll pack you all up again and move you somewhere else". not gonna happen.
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Wasn't Israel actually Jewish land first if you go back far enough in history. Anfd let's be realistic, the Jewish people were not going to be wiped off completely, with or with out the land being given to them.
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if germany or palestine had their way, seeing a Jewish people would be more rare than seeing 100 native americans at the same time
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ok look at it this way... the jewish people were gonna be wiped off the earth, they were saved and offered their own country (unjustly for the land that was taken from the people that live there, i'll admit) but this was done to prevent any further anti jewish acts
then the palestinians turn around and say that they will not deal with the jews and they will not rest until they are all wiped from the land.
you muslims on this board would be having a fit if america almost wipes out all muslims....they don't succeed, the muslims get some land next to england...then england says they are going to wipe them all out again
i admit, taking land from one group of people and giving it to another is fucked up...bottom line. but when peace talks were completely thrown out the window, what did you think was going to happen? "ok jews, we fucked up, they don't want you here....we'll pack you all up again and move you somewhere else". not gonna happen.
You still haven't explained why they are still driving deeper and deeper into Palestinian territory and demolishing more homes as we speak, and why in the last two years they have demolished yet another 10,000 Palestinian homes to make room for more and more zionist Jews. Explain that.
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ok look at it this way... the jewish people were gonna be wiped off the earth, they were saved and offered their own country (unjustly for the land that was taken from the people that live there, i'll admit) but this was done to prevent any further anti jewish acts
then the palestinians turn around and say that they will not deal with the jews and they will not rest until they are all wiped from the land.
you muslims on this board would be having a fit if america almost wipes out all muslims....they don't succeed, the muslims get some land next to england...then england says they are going to wipe them all out again
i admit, taking land from one group of people and giving it to another is fucked up...bottom line. but when peace talks were completely thrown out the window, what did you think was going to happen? "ok jews, we fucked up, they don't want you here....we'll pack you all up again and move you somewhere else". not gonna happen.
You still haven't explained why they are still driving deeper and deeper into Palestinian territory and demolishing more homes as we speak, and why in the last two years they have demolished yet another 10,000 Palestinian homes to make room for more and more zionist Jews. Explain that.
ok, when you fight crime what do you do... do you sit in your homes and wait for the enemy to come to you?
when you fight a war...do you wait for the enemy to invade or do you fight them on their turf...
there's your answer, simple as day er plain as day.... it's late
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yall wanna talk about who owned the land in the history ? fuck tht shit, does it really matter at wht time ur daddy slid the dick in ur moms vagina before u were born.....nigga plzzzzzzzzzz......history is gone...pfff...............the current piece of jewish owned land belongs to Palestine, its their home, they deserve it, the jews need to get their martian asses outa tht place to some otha area.
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yall wanna talk about who owned the land in the history ? fuck tht shit, does it really matter at wht time ur daddy slid the dick in ur moms vagina before u were born.....nigga plzzzzzzzzzz......history is gone...pfff...............the current piece of jewish owned land belongs to Palestine, its their home, they deserve it, the jews need to get their martian asses outa tht place to some otha area.
So, by your way of thinking if Israel keeps expanding and in 100 years has all of what was Palestine but no Palestinean is alive to remember then it should be the Jews land.
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by my way of thinking Israel wudnt last 100 yrs
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by my way of thinking Israel wudnt last 100 yrs
The your way of thinking doesn't take in to account reality.
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lissen buttercup......is english too hard for u to understand ? do i need to break up all the shit, and connect it so u can understand it...theres a diff. between the struggle of palestinians and the struggle of people in some other eras, its endless and more tough..and THIS IS the curent stats. not the history....do i further need to break down the bone into smaller pieces so u can chew it easily ?
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lissen buttercup......is english too hard for u to understand ? do i need to break up all the shit, and connect it so u can understand it...theres a diff. between the struggle of palestinians and the struggle of people in some other eras, its endless and more tough..and THIS IS the curent stats. not the history....do i further need to break down the bone into smaller pieces so u can chew it easily ?
What the fuck are you talking about? You said Israel wouldn't last 100 years, and that's clearly wishful thinking. Israel is only getting bigger and stronger. THere is no evidence to show they'll be gone with in a 100 years.
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wht goes up, must come down, the british emprie came down, the ottoman empire came down, the american empire is slowly goin down, look @ the american economy, American economy going down = israeli economy going down because everything u drink, eat, the toilets u shit in, to the paper u wipe ur faget ass from is Israeli owned, and when the economy goes down the whole countries structure goes and in a few years ur left with broken states of the same land. shit, ur like a handicap askin to be served over and over again
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wht goes up, must come down, the british emprie came down, the ottoman empire came down, the american empire is slowly goin down, look @ the american economy, American economy going down = israeli economy going down because everything u drink, eat, the toilets u shit in, to the paper u wipe ur faget ass from is Israeli owned, and when the economy goes down the whole countries structure goes and in a few years ur left with broken states of the same land. shit, ur like a handicap askin to be served over and over again
but the Israeli empire hasn't even started yet.
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so than itll decline before it even started ;)
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yall wanna talk about who owned the land in the history ? fuck tht shit, does it really matter at wht time ur daddy slid the dick in ur moms vagina before u were born.....nigga plzzzzzzzzzz......history is gone...pfff...............the current piece of jewish owned land belongs to Palestine, its their home, they deserve it, the jews need to get their martian asses outa tht place to some otha area.
so using your logic, since the land is currently in the hands of the jewish... and WAS in the hands of the palestines... WAS equaling the past tense of the verb...meaning it's history
then in turn the land does indeed belong to the Jewish
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using logic ur dumbass cant really calculate wht im tryina say
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using logic ur dumbass cant really calculate wht im tryina say
you're not saying shit because i just proved how stupid you actually are...i've reduced your fake thug ramblings into nothing more than the bullshit engorged words they actually are
have fun calculating that you dunce
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Im A Muslim,and in my eyes all them Jews should die,I mean they came and stole Our Muslim land,and now they are killin Us Muslims,and what we got nothing but stones,and all that "terror" groups how you would call it,would somewhere else be called a revolutionery organsition cause they fighting to get there homes back,but since we are Muslims and we use weapons we are terrorists,fuck Jews,Hitler was a mad man,but he should have killed them all,and we wouldnt have all this terror.Allahu Egbar!!!!!!
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Im A Muslim,and in my eyes all them Jews should die,I mean they came and stole Our Muslim land,and now they are killin Us Muslims,and what we got nothing but stones,and all that "terror" groups how you would call it,would somewhere else be called a revolutionery organsition cause they fighting to get there homes back,but since we are Muslims and we use weapons we are terrorists,fuck Jews,Hitler was a mad man,but he should have killed them all,and we wouldnt have all this terror.Allahu Egbar!!!!!!
For the record, if Hitler won then there would be no muslim in the world either, because he would have kept going until the whole world was aryan.
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Im A Muslim,and in my eyes all them Jews should die,I mean they came and stole Our Muslim land,and now they are killin Us Muslims,and what we got nothing but stones,and all that "terror" groups how you would call it,would somewhere else be called a revolutionery organsition cause they fighting to get there homes back,but since we are Muslims and we use weapons we are terrorists,fuck Jews,Hitler was a mad man,but he should have killed them all,and we wouldnt have all this terror.Allahu Egbar!!!!!!
if the muslims were only armed with stones, your leaders shouldn't have said they were going to wipe every jewiesh person off the land
talk about writing checks your ass can't catch
but just think... with every house the jews bulldoze... the palistinian army gets more powerful... their rock caches increase tenfold ;D
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needless brain, where has ur dick brain proven me wrong? ANSWER : NOWHERE.
u cant really hit wht ya eyes cant C
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needless brain, where has ur dick brain proven me wrong? ANSWER : NOWHERE.
u cant really hit wht ya eyes cant C
here, i'll spell it out for you junior mint HKA bitch made 4 eva
you say that just because the jews owned the land in the past, they can't lay claim to it...
well the palestiinians don't own the land now, they owned it in the past...that means they can't lay claim to it either
you really shouldn't come into a section in the message board that has nothing to do with g unit... because you've obviously come unprepared and unequipped to handle any topic that requires even a monkey's level of understanding
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These zionists resort to all measures to force the Muslims out of "their" country and America is supporting it...
"Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Ariel Sharon
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001
"I’ve never seen a president — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don’t have any idea what goes on."
Admiral Thomas Moorer
Member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Reagan Administration
"Many rabbis and professionals have told me recently that they fear for their jobs should they even begin to articulate their doubts about Israeli policy — much less give explicit support to calls for an end to the occupation."
Rabbi Michael Lerner
April 28, 2002
Los Angeles Times
"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."
John Sheehan, S.J.
(http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/palestine/plstngraphics/IsraeliBulliesLittleGirls.jpg)
Talib Kweli:
"Israelis got tanks and Palestinians got rocks"
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needless brain, where has ur dick brain proven me wrong? ANSWER : NOWHERE.
u cant really hit wht ya eyes cant C
here, i'll spell it out for you junior mint HKA bitch made 4 eva
you say that just because the jews owned the land in the past, they can't lay claim to it...
well the palestiinians don't own the land now, they owned it in the past...that means they can't lay claim to it either
you really shouldn't come into a section in the message board that has nothing to do with g unit... because you've obviously come unprepared and unequipped to handle any topic that requires even a monkey's level of understanding
shit, u aint a dog, u a bitch....u tht uggly female mutt wit the pink bow on its tail tht jus doesnt gets the fuck whts happenin around.........u cud get fucked in the ass by godzilla and wud pretend nothin ever happend....another retard like needless can never be found
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needless brain, where has ur dick brain proven me wrong? ANSWER : NOWHERE.
u cant really hit wht ya eyes cant C
here, i'll spell it out for you junior mint HKA bitch made 4 eva
you say that just because the jews owned the land in the past, they can't lay claim to it...
well the palestiinians don't own the land now, they owned it in the past...that means they can't lay claim to it either
you really shouldn't come into a section in the message board that has nothing to do with g unit... because you've obviously come unprepared and unequipped to handle any topic that requires even a monkey's level of understanding
shit, u aint a dog, u a bitch....u tht uggly female mutt wit the pink bow on its tail tht jus doesnt gets the fuck whts happenin around.........u cud get fucked in the ass by godzilla and wud pretend nothin ever happend....another retard like needless can never be found
yep i guess you really backed up your point on that one... i'm glad i've reduced you to middle school name calling, now if you could manage to get yourself off my testicles, take my dick out of your mouth and take your short bus intellect back outbound to talk about how cute you think usher is...maybe this thread could get back on topic and not be marred with anymore stupid contridictory statements like the one you've made....
RIP Junior Mint, your stay in ToT was far too long
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These zionists resort to all measures to force the Muslims out of "their" country and America is supporting it...
"Every time we do something, you [Shimon Peres] tell me America will do this and will do that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
Ariel Sharon
Knesset, Tel Aviv, October 3, 2001
"I’ve never seen a president — I don’t care who he is — stand up to them [the Israelis]. It just boggles your mind. They always get what they want... If the American people understood what grip those people have on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens don’t have any idea what goes on."
Admiral Thomas Moorer
Member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Reagan Administration
"Many rabbis and professionals have told me recently that they fear for their jobs should they even begin to articulate their doubts about Israeli policy — much less give explicit support to calls for an end to the occupation."
Rabbi Michael Lerner
April 28, 2002
Los Angeles Times
"Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East."
John Sheehan, S.J.
(http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/palestine/plstngraphics/IsraeliBulliesLittleGirls.jpg)
Talib Kweli:
"Israelis got tanks and Palestinians got rocks"
^^^^This post put it all in perspective with just 5 quotes and a picture.
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needless brain, where has ur dick brain proven me wrong? ANSWER : NOWHERE.
u cant really hit wht ya eyes cant C
here, i'll spell it out for you junior mint HKA bitch made 4 eva
you say that just because the jews owned the land in the past, they can't lay claim to it...
well the palestiinians don't own the land now, they owned it in the past...that means they can't lay claim to it either
you really shouldn't come into a section in the message board that has nothing to do with g unit... because you've obviously come unprepared and unequipped to handle any topic that requires even a monkey's level of understanding
shit, u aint a dog, u a bitch....u tht uggly female mutt wit the pink bow on its tail tht jus doesnt gets the fuck whts happenin around.........u cud get fucked in the ass by godzilla and wud pretend nothin ever happend....another retard like needless can never be found
yep i guess you really backed up your point on that one... i'm glad i've reduced you to middle school name calling, now if you could manage to get yourself off my testicles, take my dick out of your mouth and take your short bus intellect back outbound to talk about how cute you think usher is...maybe this thread could get back on topic and not be marred with anymore stupid contridictory statements like the one you've made....
RIP Junior Mint, your stay in ToT was far too long
this mutt doesnt really listens now does he.................listen needless brain, 1.....u aint shit........2....where the fuck did usher come in this ? please keep ur gay fantasiies outs of ToT.......3rd.......ive been shittin on u since the first reply u did to my post......4.....in order tor realize these points, u need to pull ur head outa ur ass........im done givin ur bitch ass attention, u can post a whole fuckin paragraph and i wudnt give a shit
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see you were dead and you didn't even know it... RIP
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Israel is a democracy, but like all democracies it isn't a perfect one. I believe it represents it's citizen's views and intentions. Creating Israel as a soverign state was a terrible mistake by the UN. Before Israel was created, Jews and Muslims basically lived in peace. Setting up a government basically Zionists to consolidate control over a area of land previously peaceful. Israel will always be attacked and hated because it never attempted to treat it's neighbours with respect. As long as the Zionists deem necessary, there will be a circle of terrorism in order to justify expansion of Israel. The UN should be the ones to step in and enforce a ceasefire. Basically, USA Inc. thinks resources need to be consolidated and dangerous ideologies need to be erradicated with an injection of democracy. Whoever says Israel has a historical claim to it's current borders is full of shit, because the Bible is not a legally binding document.