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Title: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 17, 2005, 03:47:39 PM
Dr. Dre - 2001 (1999)
(http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drd700/d754/d754764989k.jpg)

    One of the most anticipated albums ever, a full seven years after he blessed us with his certified classic The Chronic he released this bomb on us.  As expected the production is top notch but Dr. Dre actually comes through better than expected on the mic.  On one of the few solo tracks on this LP, "The Watcher" he provides one of the best performances as he sounds better than ever.  In fact pretty much all the MCs on this album come off nice.  Devin The Dude provides a stellar verse and chorus on "Fuck You", Eminem does the same on "Forgot About Dre", Xzibit rips his two verses on "Whut's The Difference" and "Some L.A. Niggaz" but it's Hittman who gets most of the spotlight on this album:

I know yo' type, so much bitch in you, if it was slightly darker
lights was little dimmer my dick be stuck up in yo' windpipe!
Hmm, you'd rather blow me than fight, I'm from the old school
like Romey Rome homey yo, you owe me the right
to slap you, like the bitch that you are, that wanted to cap you
every since you was mad doggin me with that bitch in yo' car
Fool {singing} "Who do you think you are?  Mr. Big Stuff"
Man, you shit on Hit, get yo' shit bust; plus
pistol-whipped, cover it up - use yo' bitch's blush
Mr. Powder Puff yo', bark ain't loud enough, huh
I know chihuahuas that's mo' rah-rah, HA HA
I have to laugh Dre, I bet he take bubble baths
You don't want no trouble with the Aftermath staff, trust me
Doggy Dogg, Diggy Doctor plus me
No youse a busta slash hussy, soft as a Hush Puppy
Must we break you down to estrogen most hated specimen's
a bitch nigga!


    Every song on this album is great with bangin' beats, catchy hooks and good MCin' are provided from front to back.  Each of the songs has a different feel; some are old-school and make your adrenaline pump, others are more laid-back and a few are a combination.  It's not the most groundbreaking album contentwise but dope nevertheless.  The only knock on this album is that it's a little too long and the skits drag it down a bit.  But now looking back I guess he had to fill up that CD with 22 tracks since this album has to keep us satisfied for seven years until his next one.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: mauzip on April 17, 2005, 03:49:23 PM
E. 1999 Eternal > 2001
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Machiavelli on April 17, 2005, 03:51:05 PM
E. 1999 Eternal > 2001

I agree E.1999 Eternal is in my top 10 of all time...


but btw, where the rest of the lis?
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 17, 2005, 03:54:20 PM
E. 1999 Eternal > 2001

The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever




but btw, where the rest of the lis?

It's coming slowly but surely.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Jip on April 18, 2005, 06:58:44 AM
chronic 2001 is #50, is that the top of the list, or the bottom?
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Lord Funk on April 18, 2005, 07:51:34 AM
Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with that review. Falls off a bit towards the end but for the first two-thirds or so it's an absolutely amazing album.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Elevz on April 18, 2005, 07:55:29 AM
Falls off a bit towards the end 

No.

Ummm... If this is #50, then what the hell are the 49 better hiphop albums?
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: notorious^q8I on April 18, 2005, 08:14:37 AM
i cant think of 49 albums with better production and mc'ing than dre 2001
shit i cant even think of 10
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: 'EclipZe on April 18, 2005, 09:34:49 AM
i cant think of 49 albums with better production and mc'ing than dre 2001
shit i cant even think of 10
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: -Euthanasia- on April 18, 2005, 09:35:35 AM
expand your scope past the bay
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Lord Funk on April 18, 2005, 10:51:33 AM
Falls off a bit towards the end 

No.


Yep. 'Ackrite', 'Murder Ink' and 'Housewife', not to mention all those bullshit skits crammed into the second half, are nowhere near the quality of 'The Watcher' through to 'Bitch Niggaz', either in terms of beats, production, lyrics or MC'ing.   
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: TheDeli on April 18, 2005, 10:59:34 AM
i cant think of 49 albums with better production and mc'ing than dre 2001
shit i cant even think of 10

Very true, its in my all time top 10
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Kill on April 18, 2005, 11:43:22 AM
i cant think of 49 albums with better production and mc'ing than dre 2001
shit i cant even think of 10

production, aight, 10 albums with better MC´ing is not such a challenge to come up with ::)
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Elevz on April 18, 2005, 12:10:37 PM
Falls off a bit towards the end 

No.


Yep. 'Ackrite', 'Murder Ink' and 'Housewife', not to mention all those bullshit skits crammed into the second half, are nowhere near the quality of 'The Watcher' through to 'Bitch Niggaz', either in terms of beats, production, lyrics or MC'ing.   

Some LA niggaz... Lovely track
Housewife... Man, I love the performance of Hitt and Kurupt together on this one, along with a great beat
Ackrite, might be one of the best Hittman tracks I've ever heard?
Bang Bang... I used to love this one, it got somewhat played out after all these years tho.
The message - sensitive but great, it's just that I think Mary J kinda spoiled the fun once again (near the end of the track).

Man... The album is straight fire, all the way through... Ain't no falling off near the end!
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Lord Funk on April 18, 2005, 12:20:44 PM
^^^ We'll have to agree to disagree on this one ;) Honestly, I rarely bump this CD the whole way through anymore. I know I'm in the minority cuz everyone else holds it as a 5/5 classic. It just doesn't do it for me beyond 'Bitch Niggas'.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Elevz on April 18, 2005, 12:47:25 PM
^^^ We'll have to agree to disagree on this one ;) Honestly, I rarely bump this CD the whole way through anymore. I know I'm in the minority cuz everyone else holds it as a 5/5 classic. It just doesn't do it for me beyond 'Bitch Niggas'.

I'll agree with you on Murder Ink, it's not more than a 3.5/5 imo. That's one "average" track, even though it isn't even that bad, on a classic album. However, I still find 2001 one of the weakest classics out there. I could sum up a whole bunch of albums that are better than this.
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Post by: SlickPants on April 18, 2005, 01:45:52 PM
the fuck it should be way higher than #50, seeing as everybody afterward tried to copy its entire style.

sorry, but that's definately east coast bias
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Twentytwofifty on April 18, 2005, 02:11:05 PM
One thing I gotta say is that all the top 50 are perfect or near perfect qualitywise so influence and impact play a very large roll in the order.  I could probably very easily switch this with number 34 or something like that.

sorry, but that's definately east coast bias

 ::)
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Mac 10 † on April 18, 2005, 03:42:04 PM
what's #49?

7 day theory or illmatic?
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on April 18, 2005, 03:57:43 PM
i think the album falls off near the end in the sense that everything from 1-12 or 13 were kinda like all time classic joints......if they wernt their and the ones at the end were at the top of the album, itd still be sick but when compared to how sick the first 60-65% of the album, it does fall off a slight bit......the first half of this album is perfect, from beats, flow, lyrics, nobody comes off weak in a single verse to me

best drop from aftermath

peace
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: makaveli11 on April 18, 2005, 04:55:56 PM
i think the album falls off near the end in the sense that everything from 1-12 or 13 were kinda like all time classic joints......if they wernt their and the ones at the end were at the top of the album, itd still be sick but when compared to how sick the first 60-65% of the album, it does fall off a slight bit......the first half of this album is perfect, from beats, flow, lyrics, nobody comes off weak in a single verse to me

best drop from aftermath

peace
^true... I also agree with someone else in this thread that while 2001 is classic, it is one of the weakest classics out there. I remember during the first week I got it I bumped it everyday. Now it is rarely in rotation let alone the fact that I can only listen to the album from 1-13. As far 2001 being #50 ... I am not too sure about that I believed it should be higher.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: white Boy on April 18, 2005, 07:54:58 PM
some la niggaz is the shit, so is bang bang, and the message is amazing..
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Ðøšïå on April 18, 2005, 08:59:08 PM
some la niggaz is the shit, so is bang bang, and the message is amazing..

i agree. this whole album is good. my only complaint is too many skits. i mean they were cool for a few listens but now they jsut instant skips.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Low Key on April 18, 2005, 09:17:38 PM
what's #49?

7 day theory or illmatic?

Little T & One Track Mike - Fome Is Dape

(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/420/427972.jpg)

Shaniqua don't live here no mo'.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: davida.b. on April 18, 2005, 09:41:54 PM
what's #49?

7 day theory or illmatic?

Little T & One Track Mike - Fome Is Dape

(http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/420/427972.jpg)

Shaniqua don't live here no mo'.

LOL, I thought everyone forgot about them by now.
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Okka on May 16, 2005, 06:53:41 AM
E. 1999 Eternal > 2001

That's some real bullshit right there...
Title: Re: The 50 Greatest Hip-hop Albums Ever - #50...
Post by: Okka on July 28, 2005, 03:10:09 AM
E. 1999 Eternal > 2001

Bullshit...