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Title: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: acbaylove on April 19, 2005, 04:31:38 AM
I don't know if you all knew it, but the Makaveli album was supposed to be called "The 3 Day Theory". Death Row later changed it to "7", adding them fingerprints in the booklet, adding the Exit 2Pac/Enter Makaveli thing, adding some tracks in the supposed-to-be-EP, mixing it and adding some clips in the album like the infamous "Suge shot him" at the beginning (which is not Pac anyway). They "made" that album a little more "mysterious" than what it was, cause people was already talking about Pac faking his own death. The proof? There are two.

1- In the song "Krazy" feat. Bad Azz, Pac says at the end "..3 day theory, Killuminati into your body.."

2- This rare TOSS IT UP Promo released before the album.

(http://img223.echo.cx/img223/7505/toss28zl.jpg)

Check this detail of the back cover.
(http://img223.echo.cx/img223/8420/3daytheory8dx.jpg)

Another interesting thing is that in this version of Toss It Up Pac doesnt diss Dre at the end. For more info's there was a whole XXL article about that album, with the Lawz and the OG producers talking about the album. I'mma find it and post it asap. Peace.
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Don Seer on April 19, 2005, 04:51:41 AM
knew about the 3day thing.. but never knew there was another toss it up without the dre diss


is this just a "proper" radio version?   coz on the radio version i remember he says "without ___ ___ dre" .. like they blanked the album version out..

does he say cali love pt2 ?
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: xover on April 19, 2005, 05:11:38 AM
it dont say suge shot me...
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: TobyTizzle on April 19, 2005, 05:21:12 AM
No offence T, but isnt this old news?

The og version of Toss It Up has been around for years, without the Dre diss...

cool to actually see that '3 Day Theory' bit though, props on that...
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on April 19, 2005, 05:25:26 AM
suge shot him is wat it says and 'seer aint that live and die in la u is talkin bout
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Shahizzle on April 19, 2005, 05:50:52 AM
how come on that unreleased promo, it doesnt state Dr Dre as the producer, becoz he produced the original toss it up.

i never knew bout those things tho, props man  ;)
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Don Seer on April 19, 2005, 05:51:37 AM
suge shot him is wat it says and 'seer aint that live and die in la u is talkin bout

ahh maybe... whats the dre diss on toss it up? something about alize near the start?
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Wild_Elmo on April 19, 2005, 06:38:33 AM
doesnt he just say "no longer dre day" ??
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Darksider on April 19, 2005, 06:56:38 AM
there are allways different versions of songs
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on April 19, 2005, 07:41:57 AM
The Second verse i think he does say somethin bout alaze and he says somethin like no longer dre day apraderce
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: tempo2 on April 19, 2005, 07:44:50 AM
he basically says "no longer dre day" and then he goes onto say "quick to jump ship, what a dumb move! cross death row, now who you gunna run too"
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: 411 on April 19, 2005, 07:48:03 AM
thanks for the info didnt know that..... 8)
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: QCDutch on April 19, 2005, 08:09:06 AM
apraderce

prolly 'arrivederci' 8)
and I thought it was 'no more dre day', but I could be mistaking
anyway, cool to see that '3 day' thing, thanx
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on April 19, 2005, 08:15:33 AM
woz waitin for someone to correct me thanx :)

I knew wat i woz typin and u figured it out it means Cya doesnt it?
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Makaveli R.I.P. on April 19, 2005, 10:24:17 AM
knew about the 3day thing.. but never knew there was another toss it up without the dre diss
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 19, 2005, 12:46:55 PM
knew about the 3day thing.. but never knew there was another toss it up without the dre diss


is this just a "proper" radio version?   coz on the radio version i remember he says "without ___ ___ dre" .. like they blanked the album version out..

does he say cali love pt2 ?

pac says that in "to live and die in LA"  "cali love part 2 without gay ass dre"
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Mr.Dirty on April 19, 2005, 01:36:03 PM
Aren't those images just the scanning of the Dante collection on eBay? anyway, old news, and i really dont think that Death Row maked that record stranger like "Suge shot him" it's impossible to undestand what that voice said..
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: acbaylove on April 19, 2005, 02:28:54 PM
[Tupac]
Do you want me what's your phone number, I get around
Cali Love to my true Thugs, picture me now
Still down for that Death Row sound, searchin for paydays
No longer Dre Day, arrivederci
Blown and forgotten, rotten for plottin Child's Play
Check your sexuality, as fruity as this Alize
Quick to jump ship, punk trick, what a dumb move
Cross Death Row, now who you gon' run to?
Lookin for suckers cause you similar
Pretendin to be hard, oh my God, check your temperature
Screamin Compton, but you can't return, you ain't heard
Brothers pissed cause you switched and escaped to the burbs
Mob on to this new era, cause we Untouchable
Still can't believe that you got 'Pac rushin you
Up in you, bless the real, all the rest get killed
Who can you trust, only time reveals -- toss it up!

That's the released version. It disses Dre.

it means Cya doesnt it?

Litterally it's "see you next time". It's Italian.

Aren't those images just the scanning of the Dante collection on eBay?

Yes.

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anyway, old news, and i really dont think that Death Row maked that record stranger like "Suge shot him" it's impossible to undestand what that voice said..

It's a fact, man. I mean the Outlawz and the OG producers confirmed that Death Row gave the last touches to the album, adding some things, and modifying others. They never directly said it, but Death Row added that clip in the beginning. And it's a "Suge shot him" or a "Should have shot him", 101% sure. Like it's sure that thing wasnt there in the OG track.
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on April 19, 2005, 03:00:33 PM
my girl is learnin french and spanish i want her to learn italian tho, it woz kinda embarrassin spellin it wrong tho
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: acbaylove on April 20, 2005, 01:18:33 AM
my girl is learnin french and spanish i want her to learn italian tho, it woz kinda embarrassin spellin it wrong tho

Haha well i'm 100% italian, obviously i know the meaning.
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: ImmortalOne on April 20, 2005, 04:23:17 AM
Im pretty sure that this is NOT fully accurate. The Outlawz confirmed in XXL mag that Makaveli was 100% og and the album was released as Pac intended it to be.....with the only acception being the Nas disses removed from Against All Odds (Pac was gona take them out be was killed before he could do so). But yea, there was never any intention for this album to be an EP.......it was a 12 track cd to begin with and thats how it was released. The only song that wasnt recorded for the sessions was Toss It Up, which was made a little before the sessions for the album took place in late August of 96'.

You are right about the album originally being titled "3 Day Theory" though.....
Title: Re: Interesting 2PAC/MAKAVELI thing..
Post by: Don Seer on April 20, 2005, 04:27:44 AM

antonio.. what are they lyrics on this radio version then? is it just a proper radio remake which would explain why the disses arent there.

death row to their credit used to do this a lot instead of just blanking words out. they had to do this with later singles (2 live and die in la) i assume since pac wasnt around to make a clean version.

ya get me?