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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on April 26, 2005, 12:18:49 AM
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Phil Jackson, who coached the Los Angeles Lakers from 1999-2004 and earned three championship rings in the process, is scheduled to meet with Kobe Bryant in Los Angeles later this week.
The meeting could be seen as a step to Jackson possibly returning to coach the Lakers.
After all, in 2004, Jackson wrote a tell-all book called "The Last Season" about the 2003-04 season in which he characterized Bryant as being difficult to coach. In the book, Jackson wrote that he asked Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak to trade Bryant.
Jackson has already spoken to team owner Jerry Buss and plans to speak with him again soon.
If Buss were to re-hire Jackson, Buss would likely do so only after a new NBA collective bargaining agreement with the players' association is reached. The current CBA expires in July.
The thinking is that if there is some sort of work stoppage this summer that could potentially last for months, the Lakers would not wish to be on the hook to have to pay Jackson during the time he is not actually coaching. Jackson is believed to be seeking an annual contract of around $10 million per season -- well in excess of his previous deal with the Lakers which was for $30 million over five seasons.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2046257
Looks like the Laker orginization is already taking steps towards improvement...PeACe
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Thank God!
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
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Be interesting to see how he does, the lakers certainly don't have the talent they used to
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
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This is just my thinking, but i think Phil Jackson's Lady gots Phil So Damn Pussy Whipped that he is actually thinking of going back to LA, just Cuz that is his Ladie's Dads Team.....Thats some powerful pussy if u ask me...I would not go back to a team that basically fired me
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This is just my thinking, but i think Phil Jackson's Lady gots Phil So Damn Pussy Whipped that he is actually thinking of going back to LA, just Cuz that is his Ladie's Dads Team.....Thats some powerful pussy if u ask me...I would not go back to a team that basically fired me
LMAO, who knows ;D
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This is just my thinking, but i think Phil Jackson's Lady gots Phil So Damn Pussy Whipped that he is actually thinking of going back to LA, just Cuz that is his Ladie's Dads Team.....Thats some powerful pussy if u ask me...I would not go back to a team that basically fired me
Nobody fired him, they just didn't give him the extension he wanted...He left on good terms and wanted some time off anyways...It's not like he had anything against the Lakers like the immature Shaq did... Phil actually praised the Lakers and predicted that they could be a 50+ win team...Unfortunately, Lakers never got their shit together and subsided quickly when Rudy-T left...Lakers will be at least 6th in the West next year if they get their shit together...PeACe
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
lol I gotta know....whos the best player ever?
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i don't know why Phil would want to return to coach a selfish player like Kobe Bryant once again.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy, what made him the greatest was when he was with the Bulls not the Wizards. It's like with Pac do you think his legacy is ruined because of Loyal To the Game???? No, his legacy was built on records before that.
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Thank God!
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
lol I gotta know....whos the best player ever?
Magic.
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
lol I gotta know....whos the best player ever?
Magic.
Magic??? you got a better chance of winning an argument by saying Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell. Jordan is the Greatest closely followed by Wilt then Bill. Magic is top 10 material but not top 5 nor the greatest.
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
lol I gotta know....whos the best player ever?
Magic.
Magic??? you got a better chance of winning an argument by saying Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell. Jordan is the Greatest closely followed by Wilt then Bill. Magic is top 10 material but not top 5 nor the greatest.
LMAO...Get out of this thread..."Magic is not top 5 material"...Come on now, you sound ridiculous...
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Magic Johnson is a legend and without a doubt one of the best players ever and one of my personal favorites...but better than Jordan ??? Everyone has thier opinion though....
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hey can someone post up a vid of Jordans last shot at Jazz, I never seen it before.cheerz
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man.
U gotta be kidding me... ?
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hey can someone post up a vid of Jordans last shot at Jazz, I never seen it before.cheerz
really you havent seen that shot? i still remember watching that game...classic
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FINALLY!! someone who agrees with me that MAGIC is the best ever, even though hes not on my good side lately. talking to charles barkley's hatin ass. I hate magic now because all he does is rip the lakers. i k now some criticism is in order but magic does it too much. by the way that last shot on bryon russell is arguably an offensive foul. not taking nothin away from jordan he is arguably with magic the greatest. its a toss up between the two. by the way that guy that said magic is not top 5 material is not a true basketball fan or doesnt know basketball. by the way, if you are a real lakerfan theres this great site to catch up on the news with the lakers. i guess you can call it the dubcc of the lakerworld. its lakersground.net. tight site, you should check it out. great people there.
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It's his drug, so what can you do.. Hope he doesnt ruin his legacy like Jordan did. One less excuse for Lakers next year, sounds good to me. Get your shit together guys.
Jordan didn't ruin his legacy man. Anyway, good move from the Lakers.
Not exactly ruined but instead of people remembering him for that last shot vs the Jazz...people are remembering him for his solid attempt at a comeback with the Wizards. I would have preferred to finish with that last shot vs the JAzz
Me too. But he remains the 2nd best player ever. :)
lol I gotta know....whos the best player ever?
Magic.
Magic??? you got a better chance of winning an argument by saying Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell. Jordan is the Greatest closely followed by Wilt then Bill. Magic is top 10 material but not top 5 nor the greatest.
I dont give a fuck about winning an argument with you. Magic is MY n.1 player ever.
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
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i think phil has a chance to bring the lakers back to medicority...maybe they can sneak in the playoffs next year as an 8 seed....face it...they need to retool they're lineup, because they have no chance to go deep in the playoffs with this team
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First off THANK GOD in the MOST HIGH if phil comes back......
second , Magic is Theeeeeeeeeee man but better than jordan....no.........Magic's second on my list of all time great players though
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
Yeah, he's using his girlfriend's and his father in law's trusting to fuck them both in the ass signing to Knicks.. ::)
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
Yeah, he's using his girlfriend's and his father in law's trusting to fuck them both in the ass signing to Knicks.. ::)
LOL...Seriously, that was one dumbass theory he came up with...
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Some people are saying that Phil Jackson will be named the Lakers Coach within two weeks and they would be shocked if he hasnt
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Some people are saying that Phil Jackson will be named the Lakers Coach within two weeks and they would be shocked if he hasnt
About 10 millions per year, man! I'd be shocked too if he'll not sign that damn contract, lol.
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Some people are saying that Phil Jackson will be named the Lakers Coach within two weeks and they would be shocked if he hasnt
About 10 millions per year, man! I'd be shocked too if he'll not sign that damn contract, lol.
do you think Phil would want to take over all aspects of the team as well? Player signings, trades etc?
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Some people are saying that Phil Jackson will be named the Lakers Coach within two weeks and they would be shocked if he hasnt
About 10 millions per year, man! I'd be shocked too if he'll not sign that damn contract, lol.
do you think Phil would want to take over all aspects of the team as well? Player signings, trades etc?
I dunno, hopefully yes. But i'd love to change that moron Mitch Kupchak with the OG Mr. NBA Jerry West all day all night. Phil, Tex, Jerry.. i miss them.
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
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oh yah, as for this post...we'll have to wait and see if it even happens. No jumping to conclusions. This would obviously be good for LA. But if Kobe doesnt get his shit together, it wont matter. Phil is a great coach for sure. But if Jordan wasnt able to get 110% out of the other plays on the team too, they wouldnt have been winning like they were. If Kobe doesnt change his attitude...they wont go anywhere still.
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lol you all act like if Phil never coached Kobe.
Kobe has won 3 rings and 1/2 with Phil!
Phil has coached him for 5 years..
They dont even need to talk each others.
Kobe said it's ok for him if the Lakers signs Phil.
Phil knows Lakers will not trade Kobe.
Phil is discussing with Buss about a contract.
Where's the problem?
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lol you all act like if Phil never coached Kobe.
Kobe has won 3 rings and 1/2 with Phil!
Phil has coached him for 5 years..
They dont even need to talk each others.
Kobe said it's ok for him if the Lakers signs Phil.
Phil knows Lakers will not trade Kobe.
Phil is discussing with Buss about a contract.
Where's the problem?
uhh...duhhh...i think they might be still missing their teams MVP during those championship runs. Phil wouldnt have won a title in Chicago, if Jordan left and Pippen was leading they team.
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lol you all act like if Phil never coached Kobe.
Kobe has won 3 rings and 1/2 with Phil!
Phil has coached him for 5 years..
They dont even need to talk each others.
Kobe said it's ok for him if the Lakers signs Phil.
Phil knows Lakers will not trade Kobe.
Phil is discussing with Buss about a contract.
Where's the problem?
uhh...duhhh...i think they might be still missing their teams MVP during those championship runs. Phil wouldnt have won a title in Chicago, if Jordan left and Pippen was leading they team.
Ok, but where's the problem?
Kobe said it's ok for him if the Lakers signs Phil.
Phil knows Lakers will not trade Kobe.
Phil is discussing with Buss about a contract.
Please stop with this Phil vs Kobe thing, it's old!
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
Yeah, he's using his girlfriend's and his father in law's trusting to fuck them both in the ass signing to Knicks.. ::)
LOL...Seriously, that was one dumbass theory he came up with...
If it's such a dumbass theory than how come most NBA experts and guys in sports agree with it? Phil wants to go to New York because of the history he has there. You stupid Laker fans seem not to listen to anything but your sorry ass fantasies. I mean when people said Kobe & Shaq hated each other, there was some Laker fans here who said that Kobe & Shaq were best friends, even though all the evidence was agianst that theory. And of course it turned out that Kobe & Shaq really did hate each other.
Phil will only go to the Lakers if they reverse one of the worst trades ever iand get Shaq back. The Lakers aren't going to be good for at least a couple of years because they are in salary cup hell. So why would Phil be apart of a rebuilding program? That's not what he like to do.
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The Lakers aren't going to be good for at least a couple of years because they are in salary cup hell. So why would Phil be apart of a rebuilding program? That's not what he like to do.
and the Knicks are fine and dandy in the salary cap?
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Phil would be better off not even coaching at all, both teams in my opinion are a far way from a championship run and both are, like you guys said, in salary cap hell.
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
Insane? Why am I insane? For placing Magic on the same level as Jordan? LOL, you've got a lot to learn...No one saw and no one will ever see the court the way Magic did...Jordan was more skilled overall, yes, but Magic easily puts up a fight when it comes to who had the more incredible game...To say Magic is not top 5 material (to me and many other people at least) is ridiculous...End of story...PeACe
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
Insane? Why am I insane? For placing Magic on the same level as Jordan? LOL, you've got a lot to learn...No one saw and no one will ever see the court the way Magic did...Jordan was more skilled overall, yes, but Magic easily puts up a fight when it comes to who had the more incredible game...To say Magic is not top 5 material (to me and many other people at least) is ridiculous...End of story...PeACe
like i said, not even the best point guard ever...
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
Insane? Why am I insane? For placing Magic on the same level as Jordan? LOL, you've got a lot to learn...No one saw and no one will ever see the court the way Magic did...Jordan was more skilled overall, yes, but Magic easily puts up a fight when it comes to who had the more incredible game...To say Magic is not top 5 material (to me and many other people at least) is ridiculous...End of story...PeACe
like i said, not even the best point guard ever...
Good for you! Come see me to pick up your prize...
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
as i said in my earlier post, jordan played in an era with a lot of marketing, r u telling me that jordan didnt benefit from that. i would say he got ten times more exposure than anyone in the 80's. everyone goes based on popularity, dont get me wrong i think jordan and magic are arguably number one, its a tossup, and i actually think jordan has a slighter edge just because he was such a good defensive player, but magic is not first then hes a very close second. russel was good too but he played in a different era. there werent that many teams around and also the players werent as good. basketball had only been around for like 20 years. there were no kids saying i wanna play basketball when i grow up because it wasnt around for that long. nowadays u go kids practicing their whole lives. well anyway thats my opinion. and like i said check out www.lakersground.net ull see the hardcore laker fans give u way more info. they got insiders too.
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He's gotta, they'll be much better with him, but fuck..... they are so shitty man, i cant wait til a lot of these losers are gone
- WestCoasta
Los Angeles, CA
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i hope phil goes to the cavs :D
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Or blazers
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i hope phil goes to the cavs :D
He said he aint interested to the Cavs. :P
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i hope phil goes to the cavs :D
LOL...Too bad he ruled out Cleveland...Theyl can still get the consolation prize though, which is Cleveland's very own hometown hero, Flip Saunders... 8)
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Or blazers
He has more chances of killing himself...
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
as i said in my earlier post, jordan played in an era with a lot of marketing, r u telling me that jordan didnt benefit from that. i would say he got ten times more exposure than anyone in the 80's. everyone goes based on popularity, dont get me wrong i think jordan and magic are arguably number one, its a tossup, and i actually think jordan has a slighter edge just because he was such a good defensive player, but magic is not first then hes a very close second. russel was good too but he played in a different era. there werent that many teams around and also the players werent as good. basketball had only been around for like 20 years. there were no kids saying i wanna play basketball when i grow up because it wasnt around for that long. nowadays u go kids practicing their whole lives. well anyway thats my opinion. and like i said check out www.lakersground.net ull see the hardcore laker fans give u way more info. they got insiders too.
like i said, i dont even see magic as the best point guard ever. And to be real, during his prime i dont even think he was best player in the league. I still think Larry had him beat. Both saw the floor well, both could pass, both had unbelievable bball IQ. But Larry was the better scorer, and actually better defensive player.
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i hope phil goes to the cavs :D
He said he aint interested to the Cavs. :P
:'(
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Once you get to the top 10 it's hard to say, and certainly the top 5 is up in the air. You could probably strongly argue anyone of the top 5 as the best, and have a decent argument for anyone in the top 10. Russel, Wilt, Jordan, Magic, Bird can be argued one over the other no problem. There is no point in trying to pick a number one out of those 5.
Yea, but this guy was saying that Magic isn't even top 5 material, which is completely different... :-X
list your top 5?
I mean...IMO, theres Jordan....then a bunch of other guys really. Distinguishing between whos #2 o#3...and whos #7 or #8 is kinda hard u know? I dont see Magic as better then Bird. To me, they are equal. And honestly, i kinda felt Birds game a little more. To be honest, i dont even think Magic is the best point guard ever.
LOL...Well, if someone told you that Jordan wasn't top 5 material you'd think they're crazy, am I right? Well, I think Magic was on the same level as Jordan, if not better, so to me when someone says that Magic isn't top 5 material, it sounds nuts, just like if someone said Jordan isn't top 5 material to you...Get the point? 8)
lol i get the point....youre insane.
Magic was good, great actually. And your opinion is your opinion. Sometimes tho, an opinion CAN be wrong lol. Your opinion could be that 2 is greater then 3...and youd be wrong. BTW, i dont think Magic isnt top 5 material. I just think the distinction between the number 2 player of all time...and the number 8 is really hard to figure. 99% of all fans/analysts/etc would probably put Jordan as number 1. But the next 9 players to make the top 10 are all pretty close IMO.
as i said in my earlier post, jordan played in an era with a lot of marketing, r u telling me that jordan didnt benefit from that. i would say he got ten times more exposure than anyone in the 80's. everyone goes based on popularity, dont get me wrong i think jordan and magic are arguably number one, its a tossup, and i actually think jordan has a slighter edge just because he was such a good defensive player, but magic is not first then hes a very close second. russel was good too but he played in a different era. there werent that many teams around and also the players werent as good. basketball had only been around for like 20 years. there were no kids saying i wanna play basketball when i grow up because it wasnt around for that long. nowadays u go kids practicing their whole lives. well anyway thats my opinion. and like i said check out www.lakersground.net ull see the hardcore laker fans give u way more info. they got insiders too.
like i said, i dont even see magic as the best point guard ever. And to be real, during his prime i dont even think he was best player in the league. I still think Larry had him beat. Both saw the floor well, both could pass, both had unbelievable bball IQ. But Larry was the better scorer, and actually better defensive player.
That's your opinion, and it's a very rare one...
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
Yeah, he's using his girlfriend's and his father in law's trusting to fuck them both in the ass signing to Knicks.. ::)
LOL...Seriously, that was one dumbass theory he came up with...
If it's such a dumbass theory than how come most NBA experts and guys in sports agree with it? Phil wants to go to New York because of the history he has there. You stupid Laker fans seem not to listen to anything but your sorry ass fantasies. I mean when people said Kobe & Shaq hated each other, there was some Laker fans here who said that Kobe & Shaq were best friends, even though all the evidence was agianst that theory. And of course it turned out that Kobe & Shaq really did hate each other.
Phil will only go to the Lakers if they reverse one of the worst trades ever iand get Shaq back. The Lakers aren't going to be good for at least a couple of years because they are in salary cup hell. So why would Phil be apart of a rebuilding program? That's not what he like to do.
Bet you feel stupid now... 8)
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He's not going back to LA. Phil's not a rebuilder, he has said in hi book that Kobe was uncoachable and that he tried to get him traded.
Phil is just using this as leverage against the Knicks
Yeah, he's using his girlfriend's and his father in law's trusting to fuck them both in the ass signing to Knicks.. ::)
LOL...Seriously, that was one dumbass theory he came up with...
If it's such a dumbass theory than how come most NBA experts and guys in sports agree with it? Phil wants to go to New York because of the history he has there. You stupid Laker fans seem not to listen to anything but your sorry ass fantasies. I mean when people said Kobe & Shaq hated each other, there was some Laker fans here who said that Kobe & Shaq were best friends, even though all the evidence was agianst that theory. And of course it turned out that Kobe & Shaq really did hate each other.
Phil will only go to the Lakers if they reverse one of the worst trades ever iand get Shaq back. The Lakers aren't going to be good for at least a couple of years because they are in salary cup hell. So why would Phil be apart of a rebuilding program? That's not what he like to do.
Bet you feel stupid now... 8)
LMAO ;D 8)
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like i said, i dont even see magic as the best point guard ever. And to be real, during his prime i dont even think he was best player in the league. I still think Larry had him beat. Both saw the floor well, both could pass, both had unbelievable bball IQ. But Larry was the better scorer, and actually better defensive player.
Magic won the championship as a rookie,kareem was injured in game 6 of the finals & magic playd center that game & scored 42 points,he also won more championships then l.bird,magic won 5 championships & went to the finals 9 times,Magic is the best PG in nba history,enough said
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like i said, i dont even see magic as the best point guard ever. And to be real, during his prime i dont even think he was best player in the league. I still think Larry had him beat. Both saw the floor well, both could pass, both had unbelievable bball IQ. But Larry was the better scorer, and actually better defensive player.
Magic won the championship as a rookie,kareem was injured in game 6 of the finals & magic playd center that game & scored 42 points,he also won more championships then l.bird,magic won 5 championships & went to the finals 9 times,Magic is the best PG in nba history,enough said
Big O ;)