West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: acbaylove on May 20, 2005, 02:08:11 PM
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Sup? I just wanted to say that lately i'm reading too many negativity in this forum. What the fuck is up with some of you all? We cant talk about Game without dissing him or without saying he has resurrected the West! It's a God or Moron situation, everytimes. Plus there are topics about Kurupt being wack, quoting a 1999 track; topics about who's the GOAT of the West Coast and everybody is dissing everybody just to say they prefeer a rapper instead of another (shit i've seen people saying Cube is wack simply cause they was supporting 2Pac in the poll, and viceversa! Shit!! ICE CUBE!! 2PAC!!! Two fucking legends!!). Now there's a topic saying 2Pac was overrated. A topic saying Tone Boots called 2Pac a hater (and so did a lot of you all) and another one dissing Daz. Plus there are all those pretty childish
A track/album >>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody's career
things i cant stand, expecially when we're talking about 2Pac's career, or Ice Cube's career, or C-BO's careers, etc..
I'm not dissing this forum at all (i'm really enjoying it, lately), but i just had to spend 2 minutes to say that. Let's be more positive!! It's about the West Coast!! Let's be more positive, let's quit those childish >>>> things and let's stop with all this hate against those West Coast rappers!
Thanx.
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*cough*Quik is the name*cough*
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I'm feelin' you 100%, Antonio.
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Westcoast hip hop is a joke now so what do you expect? There's not much positive to talk about.
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co-sign
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I agree
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I agree with you Antonio.
If this board is representative of the west coast hip hop fan base, no wonder we ain't shining the way we're supposed to be. I saw the Ice Cube/2pac thread and that thread is bullshit.
I'm with you on this.
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real talk Antonio
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Its not that we're negative, it's that some of us are real. Some of us don't think like you. Some people don't think Pac was all that great and that maybe he just was a hater. Some people think "Dreams" > Spice-1's Career. Some people actually think Cube is better than Pac, at the same talking, some people might think he's wack.
Understand that people think differently.
If we all thought the same, this place would be very boring. All we would see is: Dre is the GOAT Producer, Game is better lyrically than Kool G Rap, Eminem is the GOAT Emcee. 50 Cent is the illest! Snoop Dogg is God. The occasional appreciation for MC Eiht, Spice-1, S.C.C. and other old school West Coast acts.
That would be VERY wack. All it would be is co-signing. There would be no real convo, just "Yea, Dre killed that beat." "Game ripped that track up." etc. These forums need diversity to keep things interesting...
But, since certain people are still crying that I speak my mind, you know who you are, I won't bother anymore. I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
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Its not that we're negative, it's that some of us are real. Some of us don't think like you. Some people don't think Pac was all that great and that maybe he just was a hater. Some people think "Dreams" > Spice-1's Career. Some people actually think Cube is better than Pac, at the same talking, some people might think he's wack.
Understand that people think differently.
If we all thought the same, this place would be very boring. All we would see is: Dre is the GOAT Producer, Game is better lyrically than Kool G Rap, Eminem is the GOAT Emcee. 50 Cent is the illest! Snoop Dogg is God. The occasional appreciation for MC Eiht, Spice-1, S.C.C. and other old school West Coast acts.
That would be VERY wack. All it would be is co-signing. There would be no real convo, just "Yea, Dre killed that beat." "Game ripped that track up." etc. These forums need diversity to keep things interesting...
But, since certain people are still crying that I speak my mind, you know who you are, I won't bother anymore. I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
No man, i'm not saying i want a boring forum. I'm not saying you gotta love Pac and Cube. I'm not saying you gotta prefeer Spice 1 to "Dreams". I'm talking about how some of you are expressing your opinions. The way. Not the fact you have different opinions. If there's a "Cube vs 2Pac" topic, you can prefeer Cube to Pac, but there's no need to diss 2Pac calling him a bitch, a fake, a hater, an overrated rapper. There's no need to say you enjoyed watching the pic of 2Pac's autopsy just because you dont like him as a rapper. You know what i mean? And, viceversa, there's no need to say that Cube is a fake, and that he cant rap if you prefeer 2Pac. That's what i'm saying. People are hating on albums before they got released/leaked! Watch the DPG Mixtape topic! People are disrespecting a lot of rappers just having a Stan mentality, you know. Fuck Chino XL cause Pac dissed him! That's wrong!! I know you personally have your opinions, and i agree with some of them, but you can express your opinions in a positive way, not hating, but simply posting good things for a discussion. There's no discussion if you say "x is a bitch. 50 Cent's In Tha Club >>>>>>>>> his life and career". You know what i mean?
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Sup? I just wanted to say that lately i'm reading too many negativity in this forum. What the fuck is up with some of you all? We cant talk about Game without dissing him or without saying he has resurrected the West! It's a God or Moron situation, everytimes. Plus there are topics about Kurupt being wack, quoting a 1999 track; topics about who's the GOAT of the West Coast and everybody is dissing everybody just to say they prefeer a rapper instead of another (shit i've seen people saying Cube is wack simply cause they was supporting 2Pac in the poll, and viceversa! Shit!! ICE CUBE!! 2PAC!!! Two fucking legends!!). Now there's a topic saying 2Pac was overrated. A topic saying Tone Boots called 2Pac a hater (and so did a lot of you all) and another one dissing Daz. Plus there are all those pretty childish
A track/album >>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody's career
things i cant stand, expecially when we're talking about 2Pac's career, or Ice Cube's career, or C-BO's careers, etc..
I'm not dissing this forum at all (i'm really enjoying it, lately), but i just had to spend 2 minutes to say that. Let's be more positive!! It's about the West Coast!! Let's be more positive, let's quit those childish >>>> things and let's stop with all this hate against those West Coast rappers!
Thanx.
totally agree
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real talk Antonio
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I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
Apology accepted. :'(
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Westcoast hip hop is a joke now so what do you expect? There's not much positive to talk about.
yep I really have nothing good to say about rap for the last few years. the westcoast has been full of childish drama. internet beefing between rappers, so many rappers on the west beefing with eachother, westcoast sites focusing on beefs and airing out rappers personal business, albums continuously being delayed, bullshit interviews, and dissapointing album. that about sums up my feelings of rap in the last 2-3 years.
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I agree with you Antonio.
If this board is representative of the west coast hip hop fan base, no wonder we ain't shining the way we're supposed to be. I saw the Ice Cube/2pac thread and that thread is bullshit.
I'm with you on this.
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I agree with you Antonio.
If this board is representative of the west coast hip hop fan base, no wonder we ain't shining the way we're supposed to be. I saw the Ice Cube/2pac thread and that thread is bullshit.
I'm with you on this.
SGV also made his point, but this forum can still shine and do with the immature ass reponses and opinions
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Its not that we're negative, it's that some of us are real. Some of us don't think like you. Some people don't think Pac was all that great and that maybe he just was a hater. Some people think "Dreams" > Spice-1's Career. Some people actually think Cube is better than Pac, at the same talking, some people might think he's wack.
Understand that people think differently.
If we all thought the same, this place would be very boring. All we would see is: Dre is the GOAT Producer, Game is better lyrically than Kool G Rap, Eminem is the GOAT Emcee. 50 Cent is the illest! Snoop Dogg is God. The occasional appreciation for MC Eiht, Spice-1, S.C.C. and other old school West Coast acts.
That would be VERY wack. All it would be is co-signing. There would be no real convo, just "Yea, Dre killed that beat." "Game ripped that track up." etc. These forums need diversity to keep things interesting...
But, since certain people are still crying that I speak my mind, you know who you are, I won't bother anymore. I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
lol look at his karma, hahaha, sorry i just had to said that.
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agreed.
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i agree with most of wat u say, but if u think that tupac wasnt a hater then thats where we disagree
im not saying he wasnt a good mc...he was charismatic, talented lyrically and no doubt one of the goat....but stop kidding urself
just listen to hitemup and tell me he wasnt hating
peace
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^ I didnt even reply to that topic man, because, even if i'm an OG fan since 1993, i agree with some of the things i've read against him. I dont consider him God. I dont even consider him "untouchable", the "GOAT", or whatever. I'm open minded about him. But, once again, i was talking about the way some of you expressed his own opinion, not about the fact somebody has a different opinion than mine.
"After he got shot, Pac went paranoid, he thought the whole world was against him, so he started to have nightmares, people who surrounded him started to blame Biggie for the shooting, saying it was his block, and that he knew the people who shot him, and he didnt do nothing against them, and that it was a set-up. So he started to call it a set-up, and yes, maybe it was a mistake by him, cause he trusted those people without listening to Biggie first. But he felt like he was betrayed by the same guy he litterally grew up from a block of New York where he was a nobody to go on stage with him, recording tracks with him, getting some money with him. He went mad. Probably too much. And he started to have his "..and if you down with Bad Boy then fuck you too" attitude and to beef with almost everybody in the East. Add to the mix the fact that Suge saved him from jail and that he was/is the biggest hater in rap history......"
That's the same thing said in a better way, imo.
"Pac was Suges Bitch, he was a fake, a hater" is not the best one to say those things, you know what i mean? It's disrespectful!
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co-sign
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But, since certain people are still crying that I speak my mind, you know who you are, I won't bother anymore. I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
When a child gets bullied at School, as he gets older he then becomes the bully. In a lot of cases he uses the internet as a form of "Get back", to release the anger of his childhood. He bully's people on-line. SGV is the man . . .
What's up Antonio, all forums suck nowadays. People have forgotten about the music, they care more about "interviews", "news" and "websites", they sit talking and anticipating an album then when its finally released they start feinding for the next. I suggest playing some old Kurupt "Streets Iz a Muthafucka" or old Warren G and remenicse when the internet was a fun thing! I certainly remember speaking to you all the time, back in 2000, I will never forget those days. Antonio, Lil Jay, DPGC2k . . . bless everyone. Bless Kylie too . . .
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co-sign
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so if someone thought Pac was overrated they shouldn´t say it? i personally think he´s criminally overrated as a lyricist and that´s what i said in the thread about Cube vs Pac and that´s not hating. that´s just stating my opinion now i can´t understand the random "fuck this and that person for no reason" posts but just coz you say that somebody is wack,overrated,a bitch,fake etc doesn´t mean your hating coz that could be your honest opinion and if peeps would bite their tongues round here i wouldn´t even be checking this shit out. and like SGV said if it all would be a happy board without the random and stupid fuck this and that person this board would be meaningless. coz in the end i can guarantee you that 90% of the peeps on here wouldn´t check this board out if everybody was just co-signing eachother like a gang of little smurfs.
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Sup? I just wanted to say that lately i'm reading too many negativity in this forum. What the fuck is up with some of you all? We cant talk about Game without dissing him or without saying he has resurrected the West! It's a God or Moron situation, everytimes. Plus there are topics about Kurupt being wack, quoting a 1999 track; topics about who's the GOAT of the West Coast and everybody is dissing everybody just to say they prefeer a rapper instead of another (shit i've seen people saying Cube is wack simply cause they was supporting 2Pac in the poll, and viceversa! Shit!! ICE CUBE!! 2PAC!!! Two fucking legends!!). Now there's a topic saying 2Pac was overrated. A topic saying Tone Boots called 2Pac a hater (and so did a lot of you all) and another one dissing Daz. Plus there are all those pretty childish
A track/album >>>>>>>>>>>>> somebody's career
things i cant stand, expecially when we're talking about 2Pac's career, or Ice Cube's career, or C-BO's careers, etc..
I'm not dissing this forum at all (i'm really enjoying it, lately), but i just had to spend 2 minutes to say that. Let's be more positive!! It's about the West Coast!! Let's be more positive, let's quit those childish >>>> things and let's stop with all this hate against those West Coast rappers!
Thanx.
ok, imma get my butterfly tatoo right now!
j/k ;D
but youre right
a lotta challenging topics have been started lately...
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i agree with most of wat u say, but if u think that tupac wasnt a hater then thats where we disagree
im not saying he wasnt a good mc...he was charismatic, talented lyrically and no doubt one of the goat....but stop kidding urself
just listen to hitemup and tell me he wasnt hating
peace
^^tupac is not the point of the topic at all!! I agree with Antonio!!
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When a child gets bullied at School, as he gets older he then becomes the bully. In a lot of cases he uses the internet as a form of "Get back", to release the anger of his childhood. He bully's people on-line. SGV is the man . . .
Sort of like when people actually live on the internet right? You know... They strive to be legends on forums and various websites. Or they even create characters to live out fantasy's of being a real gang banger from L.A. when they're the complete opposite!
I got you!
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Why is everyone always trying to find out who really is the goat? I think that's one of the points where all the hating starts, along with random fools making stupid comments trying to be special. On the other hand, that does give the forum some colour.
I enjoyed the Ice Cube / 2Pac thread. There's been a lot of shit talking, but hey, this isn't a forum full of philosophers or geniusses. Most of us are just random barbershop type gossip talkers. The only real problem we have here is that some people just refuse to listen to other people's opinions and their reasons for it. How can you discuss something when you've got a closed mind?
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When a child gets bullied at School, as he gets older he then becomes the bully. In a lot of cases he uses the internet as a form of "Get back", to release the anger of his childhood. He bully's people on-line. SGV is the man . . .
Sort of like when people actually live on the internet right? You know... They strive to be legends on forums and various websites. Or they even create characters to live out fantasy's of being a real gang banger from L.A. when they're the complete opposite!
I got you!
I live on the internet? You are the loser with Posts: 3229 on every rap forum going! I used to post here because I know Seer, Rud and them. I don't strive to be anything. But I mean lets face it, I am somebody and you are nobody. When I go to forums, I get interviewed (http://www.thavaults.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=bosses;action=display;num=1116441855).
Boss Up.
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I live on the internet? You are the loser with Posts: 3229 on every rap forum going! I used to post here because I know Seer, Rud and them. I don't strive to be anything. But I mean lets face it, I am somebody and you are nobody. When I go to forums, I get interviewed (http://www.thavaults.com/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.cgi?board=bosses;action=display;num=1116441855).
Boss Up.
LOL @ Being happy that you get interviewd on Forums... Yea... Your life is on the net. You're a somebody on the net!! Way to go bloke! Your mum must be proud.
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But, since certain people are still crying that I speak my mind, you know who you are, I won't bother anymore. I hurt your feelings enough, I apologize for bullying you.
When a child gets bullied at School, as he gets older he then becomes the bully. In a lot of cases he uses the internet as a form of "Get back", to release the anger of his childhood. He bully's people on-line. SGV is the man . . .
What's up Antonio, all forums suck nowadays. People have forgotten about the music, they care more about "interviews", "news" and "websites", they sit talking and anticipating an album then when its finally released they start feinding for the next. I suggest playing some old Kurupt "Streets Iz a Muthafucka" or old Warren G and remenicse when the internet was a fun thing! I certainly remember speaking to you all the time, back in 2000, I will never forget those days. Antonio, Lil Jay, DPGC2k . . . bless everyone. Bless Kylie too . .
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lol@ bloke & mum
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i agree with u antonio man
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lol@ bloke & mum
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People have forgotten about the music, they care more about "interviews", "news" and "websites", they sit talking and anticipating an album then when its finally released they start feinding for the next.
yeah, there's some truth in it
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Fuck the entire world!
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People have forgotten about the music, they care more about "interviews", "news" and "websites", they sit talking and anticipating an album then when its finally released they start feinding for the next.
yeah, there's some truth in it
word...
plus u have certain people so blinded by 1 artist be it Eazy, Quik, Tupac or whoever in totally unrelated posts they keep saying "fuck this dude xxxxx is better".. that kinda shit really winds me up..
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I I used to be like that too, once. Being a 2Pac fan i was one of them people who used to say "Fuck Chino XL cause ‘Pac said so". I used to think Biggie was wack, that Mobb Deep were overrated, etc.. And I didn’t even knew their albums. I was blinded, I used to disrespect other rappers just cause my fav ones were beefing with them. Shit I hated Snoop too, cause Pac had beef with him before he died. I used to be loyal to Death Row cause Death Row was still repping 2Pac. You know. Then one day I had to format my Hard Disk because it was damaged. I had no chance to backup it. So I lost almost everything, a lot of rare things, videos, cameos from Pac, unreleased tracks, shit I even used to collect pictures and shit. After the shock I tried to re-collect all this shit again, but I realized how moron I was to be (my homie Dieter LBC213 used to call me) a Pacaholic. I started to listen to Mobb Deep, and damn, I cant deny tracks like “Survival of the fittest”, “Quiet Storm”, “Shock Ones Pt.2” etc are classic. Shit, even “Drop a gem on em” where they diss Pac is a great diss track, probably on the same level of Hit Em Up. I started to listen to Biggie and damn, Biggie is not in my top10 artists ever (I simply don’t like his style), but shit he was hot as fuck, and his first album is a classic album, no doubt. Chino XL? Shit I love him now. His freestyle battle with Crooked I is one of the best ever, Chino is a fucking genious! You know what I mean? I grew up, lol. I’m 24 now, almost 25. I realized I was wrong. I think a lot of people in this board are still in the process where they’re like I was 4-5 years ago. It’s a matter of time, I think. You cant be a hater all your life. I’m just trying to say those people that hip-hop is not only 1 artist being better than everybody, but it’s all those artists dropping classic albums who makes hip-hop enjoyable. You should really make that step and start listening to other rappers, expecially the ones Seer, Nima, and Jermaine are supporting in their websites. But not only them. For example try the Bay Area, like I did (I felt in love with the Bay sound). Try OG legends like Spice 1, Mac Dre (RIP), Mac Mall, JT Tha Bigga Figga, San Quinn, Yukmouth, Too $hort, Richie Rich, E-40, or Sacramento’s C-BO, Brotha Lynch, X-Raided and all those people.. and then start listening to people who’re featured in their albums. Like Young Dru (he’s very hot imo), Gonzoe, Spade, 151, etc.. Try it and you’ll love it, I’m sure about it. Don’t be a hater without listening to their albums. Try them. And you can do the same with L.A. rappers, with LBC rappers, Dirty South rappers (Scarface, Geto Boyz, 5th Ward Boyz, Z-Ro, etc..), East Coast rappers (Lost Boyz, Screwball, Mobb Deep, AZ, Masta Ace, etc..), etc.. Just try. And stop being a paranoid hater.
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I'm feelin' you 100%, Antonio.
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Pac never hated snoop what are you talking about
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Antonio, I used to be the same way.
I hated EVERY artist that Pac beefed with, but I grew up. And now, I actually own more east coast albums then I do west coast. Pac is still my all time fav, easily, but I like Mobb Deep's music, Nas's music, SOME of Jay's music (not much but it has more to do with I dont really like his style then it does because Pac hated him), Fugees.....all artists who Pac beefed with. Still dont really like Biggie, though I own two of his albums. His music gets old real fast to me, and honestly, I cant stand most of his fans. Never did and never will like Puffy.
But yea, all in all, I like most of the artists that Pac beefed with.
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ya i hate when people do that kinda stuff hating on good artists
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Pac never hated snoop what are you talking about
Wow! You really went deep into my topic. Now that's impressive!!
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Pac never hated snoop what are you talking about
Wow! You really went deep into my topic. Now that's impressive!!
I grind my feet on yo couch nigga
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Whatever ::)