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Title: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 24, 2005, 11:51:23 AM
The only exception I can think of is Ice Cube, and frankly, Cube's diss towards Dre on No Vaseline wasn't nearly as hard as his disses to Ren and Eazy. Did Snoop every officially diss Dre?

He's never worked on unreleased 2Pac or Eazy-E tracks (might be cuz of contractual issues with Death Row or Ruthless, but Eminem just did that 2Pac album). He's never done shit with Daz again. Nothing with J-Flexx. Needless to say, none of the minor figures either, like CJ Mac, The Realest, etc. Nothing with Dresta or BG KO.

Thoughts?   
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Suga Foot on May 24, 2005, 11:53:01 AM
why would he waste his time?
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 24, 2005, 11:56:15 AM
Yeah, a lot of it might be because they've never amounted to shit on their own anyway. But I wonder if it might be the other way around. Maybe dissing Dre will really just fuck up your music career for good. Not many guys have fared too well after (not counting E or Pac...but then again, they're both dead now too). 
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Traumatized on May 24, 2005, 11:57:32 AM
I think he never worked on posthumous 'Pac and probably also Eazy works, because he is against this idea of releasing albums of dead people.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 24, 2005, 12:07:42 PM
he didnt even work with snoop ever again after the JD thing... i dunno why
snoop did talk some bullshit and was mad at dre
remember how close they were in early 2001 after the wash sdtk dropped (which was a joint release between both their labels)
and after this shit went down i never saw them together ever... no beats from dre.. no vocals
snoop isnt even featured on any of aftermath releases (not even game's)
pimp remix happend thru sha money xl not dre or em
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on May 24, 2005, 12:14:22 PM
djquik dre and quik worked together after quik diss main point dont diss dre now if this is true dre wont work with 50
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on May 24, 2005, 12:17:39 PM
Im getting tired of Dre's bitching
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 24, 2005, 12:24:21 PM
djquik dre and quik worked together after quik diss main point dont diss dre now if this is true dre wont work with 50

Yeah, but Quik retracted that shit like he was Newsweek.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Jip on May 24, 2005, 12:26:33 PM
Im getting tired of Dre's bitching

when ur as talanted as dre, you can afford to bitch
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: IzUwitIt on May 24, 2005, 01:12:23 PM
he worked with Kokane again
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: ToOoOoN!!! on May 24, 2005, 01:31:02 PM
he did shit for jayo
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: westkoastanostra on May 24, 2005, 01:39:03 PM
the D.O.C  and RBX dissed dre and they worked with him again
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 24, 2005, 01:58:30 PM
the D.O.C  and RBX dissed dre and they worked with him again

Ah, I forgot about them. Cool.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 24, 2005, 02:04:45 PM
So a new question. If you were an up and coming rapper under Ja Rule, Suge, or JD...Would you diss Dre because your boss told you to? Keeping in mind that you might lose your contract or get shelved if you didn't.
 
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 24, 2005, 02:35:15 PM
DOC is like dre's closest homie
he gives him free beats not only work with him
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Knoshen on May 24, 2005, 02:57:46 PM
what did Daz say to Dre to diss him?
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 24, 2005, 03:18:24 PM
^^ lol whole lotta shit
he claims he produced doggystyle and like half of the chronic
called him gay, when suge was trying to convince ppl that he is really gay
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 24, 2005, 03:40:23 PM
Im getting tired of Dre's bitching

im getting tired of stupid comments like this. dre is rich as fuck. why should he surround himself with negative people who dissed him for attention? he's a legend and he dont need none of these cats.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 24, 2005, 03:44:42 PM
^^ truest shit u ever said
dre can drop his whole roster and start all over again and still sell like crazy.. well atleast it happend once and i suppose it  could happen again
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Post by: Don Seer on May 24, 2005, 03:46:41 PM
^ only once?

remember what he went to death row with.. nothin..

and IMO he brought ruthless up too...


father of 3 dynastys..
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 24, 2005, 03:49:24 PM
^^ well he sorta knew whose going with him to deathrow.. he still started from nuthin.. he launched the label by the chronic
but when he dropped all those cats on the 1997 aftermath and dropped the firm then signed em and hittman
but yea i agree w/you
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Larrabee on May 24, 2005, 07:43:18 PM
Dre HAS worked with Snoop after their apparent "fall out" in 2002. Snoop recorded vocals for Dre that same year ( Xzibit's "Losin' Your Mind ) and Snoop did hit the studio with Dre last summer ( for the "Westside Story" remix and the line he dropped on "Higher" ), whether or not they did any tracks together is anyone's guess...most likely, any new Dre\Snoop shit is hush-hush and kept on the low, for obvious reasons. They wanna do it big by catching people off guard.

As far as cats dissing him, it is what it is. One thing about Dre is that he ALWAYS tries to move forward. Working with the same artists he produced for back in the day isn't really his thing. Nate Dogg is the only artist I can think of that still works with Dre on a semi-regular basis, probably because they're cool with each other and cuz Nate has enough talent for Dre to tap into and produce hit records with.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Dean on May 24, 2005, 08:08:25 PM
i thinks its just a quinsidence
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on May 24, 2005, 08:42:26 PM
^ only once?

remember what he went to death row with.. nothin..

and IMO he brought ruthless up too...


father of 3 dynastys..

Ruthless was all Eazy's people

he went to Death Row with D.O.C., Michel'le, Ruben Cruz


Dre HAS worked with Snoop after their apparent "fall out" in 2002. Snoop recorded vocals for Dre that same year ( Xzibit's "Losin' Your Mind ) and Snoop did hit the studio with Dre last summer ( for the "Westside Story" remix and the line he dropped on "Higher" ), whether or not they did any tracks together is anyone's guess...most likely, any new Dre\Snoop shit is hush-hush and kept on the low, for obvious reasons. They wanna do it big by catching people off guard.

that Xzibit track was recorded before that. and how you know snoop was in the studio with dre? game might have brought him in and just had dre mix the tracks later. and you see the version with snoop didnt even get released...
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: 411 on May 25, 2005, 01:38:37 AM
has he ever worked with people who dissed him but had never worked with him in the past?

hopin he works with Dresta
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 01:43:55 AM
^ if Dresta wants ;)

u gotta remember that it takes two to tango..

Whats the last time Dresta dissed Dr Dre?  that "Fuck NWA" song? which is supposedly a leftover from "too gangsta for radio"
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: 411 on May 25, 2005, 01:49:55 AM
im almost sure Dresta wants 2 since he gave em a shout out on that one song "My Time"

What the fuck is Dr. Dre waitin on/
I know you here it nigga, call me lets clear it nigga/
Dont think its bout the money i got the spirit nigga/
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: toebee on May 25, 2005, 03:01:05 AM
Dre was on stage wit snoop n game in ireland and he joined them after their european-tour somewhere in the US
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: notorious^q8I on May 25, 2005, 03:29:07 AM
^^ u sure????
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: No Compute on May 25, 2005, 05:15:25 AM
That was just a rumour, Dre didn't turn up.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Lil Jay on May 25, 2005, 05:27:48 AM
Dre was on stage wit snoop n game in ireland and he joined them after their european-tour somewhere in the US

naw that rumor was BS
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: ::Mr. Hahn:: on May 25, 2005, 05:32:53 AM
hahhhaaha oh man, after reading all the above...

Are we looking into this stuff too much..

Maybe im just not in the mood to care too much about DRE...with assignments and exams looming..

What would happen if i said....

Fuck DRE.

(oh man i am gunna get burned alive for this).

Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Kaligula on May 25, 2005, 08:10:06 AM
Im getting tired of Dre's bitching

I've never heard Dre bitch about much of anything. Niggas diss Dre all the time and he barely says anything at all, he just keeps making money.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Don Seer on May 25, 2005, 08:14:54 AM
^ its true.. outside JD, and Ja Rule  Dr Dre aint ever bitched about or dissed anyone for 10 years
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Ruthless on May 25, 2005, 08:24:15 AM
I never heard Dre bitch about anyone who talked shit about him. And those people he chose not to work with again, it might be because they're trying to steal credit and act like Dre stole theirs.

It's pretty well known that The Chronic was a group effort, but that Dre was the master behind it all. Now I've heard from various people that Dre did most of Doggystyle alone.

His work pretty much speaks for itself. If that isn't enough, listen to the people that has worked and works with him.
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Jip on May 25, 2005, 09:32:48 AM
asif dre is gonna phone up 'dresta' and go

"YEAH MATE LETS WORK TOGETHER"

if he wants a dre beat, u gotta pay the $250000 like everyone else

and u have to contact him

hes quite blatently a busy guy
Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: Larrabee on May 25, 2005, 09:34:12 AM
Dre HAS worked with Snoop after their apparent "fall out" in 2002. Snoop recorded vocals for Dre that same year ( Xzibit's "Losin' Your Mind ) and Snoop did hit the studio with Dre last summer ( for the "Westside Story" remix and the line he dropped on "Higher" ), whether or not they did any tracks together is anyone's guess...most likely, any new Dre\Snoop shit is hush-hush and kept on the low, for obvious reasons. They wanna do it big by catching people off guard.

that Xzibit track was recorded before that. and how you know snoop was in the studio with dre? game might have brought him in and just had dre mix the tracks later. and you see the version with snoop didnt even get released...
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I doubt that Game brought Snoop in himself, then again who knows. But the 'dropping of one line' thing on a track is an element that Dre's used for years. Examples include Eminem on "Bang Bang", Busta Rhymes on "The Documentary", even Snoop on "Let's Play House" back in the day, when Dre mixed it. Snoop's part on Higher was more than likely, Dre's idea, imo.

Title: Re: Dre almost never works again with people who dissed him...
Post by: AfterMathematics on May 25, 2005, 11:06:46 AM
One way to look at it is to put yourself in Dre's shoes. You are a hugely successful, groundbreaking producer that is considered by many to be one of the best in the music world. He has a talent pool that guarantees many more millions to his already considerable wealth. He built himself up from scratch once (Ruthless), and came back from the dead twice to build empires. I would imagine someone like that would have good reason to be pretty arrogant. I'm wondering if his pride is what keeps him from reaching out to people who dissed him long after the fact. Perhaps it's that same pride that keeps him going even today, after all that success.

The truth is, Dre is probably the most dissed person in the rap world. I find it hard to name one other rapper or producer who has been dissed so many times by so many people. This is probably due to his longevity too, but after the millions, the fame, and the house up in the hills overlooking the sea, what do you have left to work for? I think all that he has now to motivate him is to send a big "fuck you" out to those who dogged on him in the past. I guess people never get over being dissed, no matter how big they are.

The exceptions to that rule are probably the guys he came up with...DOC, Cube, Eazy.