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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Lucien on May 24, 2005, 05:37:14 PM
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I heard he's dead... he was shot in Vegas or something a couple of days ago
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wheres your source?
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siccness forum & Bay2LA channel...
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IT'S TRUE.
EVER SINCE MAC DRE DIED, THERE'S BEEN HEAVY RUMORS IN THE BAY THAT FAT TONE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT AND JUDGING FROM TONE'S ALBUMS, HE HAD A REAL BIG MOUTH. BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE HOMICIDE WAS OVER, REST IN PEACE.
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damn thats crazy. rip.
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Never heard of him. was he from the bay?
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sactown, c-bo put him on.
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yea i just heard that shit today that it might have been retaliation for mac dre's death....R.I.P
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Never heard of him.
me either....anyways R.I.P.
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Mac DRE was sick....but RIP to the dead.
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RIP
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He doesnt deserve my RIP. Fuck him! He got what he deserved for talking too much shit and maybe for having a role in Mac Dre's death. Oh, and he was from KC, Kansas City, not Sacramento. C-Bo is from Sac.
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Fat Tone was terrible on the mic worst rapper eva glad im neva gon hear that fo again Rip
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damn RIP
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He doesnt deserve my RIP. Fuck him! He got what he deserved for talking too much shit and maybe for having a role in Mac Dre's death. Oh, and he was from KC, Kansas City, not Sacramento. C-Bo is from Sac.
Ok Mr. There's Too Much Negativity In This Forum.
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He doesnt deserve my RIP. Fuck him! He got what he deserved for talking too much shit and maybe for having a role in Mac Dre's death. Oh, and he was from KC, Kansas City, not Sacramento. C-Bo is from Sac.
Ok Mr. There's Too Much Negativity In This Forum.
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lmao
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R.I.P.
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He doesnt deserve my RIP. Fuck him! He got what he deserved for talking too much shit and maybe for having a role in Mac Dre's death. Oh, and he was from KC, Kansas City, not Sacramento. C-Bo is from Sac.
Ok Mr. There's Too Much Negativity In This Forum.
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Ok, you did a good gag. But on the real, Fat Tone said in a song from one of his mixtapes that he killed Mac Dre. I'm just saying he got what he deserved for talking too much shit. I'm not a hater, actually i got all his albums (Killa Tay presents, and C-BO presents) and retail albums (and shit, even his mixtapes), and i'm not judging him as a rapper. But damn, how could i judge a moron who said he killed Mac Dre? I'm not crying for him and he doesnt deserve my RIP, like i wrote. I'm not blinded. I'm judging facts with an open heart, having all his albums and tracks, being a C-BO fan etc..
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Which is what most of us do. We judge with open hearts, but you call it hating. Hypocritical? Yes.
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yeah its sad tone basically dug his own grave "I got tired of the Thizzle Dance/So I got rid of the THizzle Man" he also said something along the lines of making niggas trucks crash and flip and described a homicide that basically fit what happened to Dre...whether he did it or not he shot himself in the foot..........tone also was convited of killing a pregnant teenager in front of his house a few years ago but witnesses backed out of testifying....whats even more strange is that tone recorded a few songs with MD and was killed in almost the same matter......i dont hold tone responsible but he knew something about dre
R.I.P. TO THE MUTHAFUCKIN VALLEJO MAC!!!!!!!!
R.I.P. FAT TONE A/K/A OG STACC A DOLLAR
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damn I never knew fat tone said/had anything to do with mac dre's death. I don't know anything, but if he did, he got dealt what was deserved. an eye for an eye.
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Which is what most of us do. We judge with open hearts, but you call it hating. Hypocritical? Yes.
Man what the fuck are you talking about? I was talking about people hating other RAPPERS without listening to their MUSIC. I aint even talking about the RAPPER Fat Tone. We could open a new topic talking about his music, and i can add my comment, since i got all the shit he released plus his mixtapes and shit. But we aint talking about music. We're talking about Mac Dre! We're talking about the death of a rapper, and about the death of the man who said he killed him. Not about music. This shit has nothing to do with my other topic. Like i said, your was a nice gag. But please stop it cause you can't be serious.
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man, thats so fucked up if he really said that about mac dre. me and my friends were really starting to listen to him more in the months before he died. fuck him if its true, he deserves to die for saying that, let alone having anything to do with it, which he probably did. who would say that otherwise. its sad really.
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R.I.P.
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damn so apparently Andre "Mac Minister" Dow is now being implicated as the top murder suspect in tones slaying......same dude who got KOed by B-Legit at the Source awards.....crazy shit
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who did B-La knock out in the source awards?
Yeah ya know I have to say RIP because Tone lost his life and thats tragic. I never liked him as a rapper and after hearing him on that mixtape one could easily make the assessment that he played a part in the legend Mac Dre's death.
my opinion if he had nothing to do with is. RIP
if he had anythnig to do with it then fuck him.
none of us know so we should probaly stop speculating
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Ain't nobody here got any links to this shit. I found a few posts from muthafuckas sayin' someone named "40 Cow" smoked Mac Dre for this Fat Tone dude.... I'd like to hear the track where he said this shit about MD. Payback is a bitch. Real talk.....
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fuck if fat tone killed mac dre....why would he do it....this had to be on some serious shit....not music wise ???
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sactown, c-bo put him on.
lol, are you fuckin kidding me
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sactown, c-bo put him on.
lol, are you fuckin kidding me
well I was wrong, so what. I ain't a fan of fat tone, I just assumed he was from sac, cuz c-bo put him on.
anyways, I got this info from the wcrydaz forum:
Police: Slayings may be tied to gangster warfare
By Jen Lawson
LAS VEGAS SUN
Anthony "Fat Tone" Watkins was known in Kansas City, Mo., for his rap sheet just as well as for his rap music.
Friends said they weren't surprised to learn that Watkins, 24, and his friend Jermaine "Cowboy" Akins, 22, also of Kansas City, were found shot to death in a construction area near Southern Highlands in southwest Las Vegas early Monday.
Police are investigating whether the killings were the latest round in an reported battle between Midwest and West Coast gangster rappers -- reminiscent of the East Coast-West Coast rapper rivalry in the late 1990s that was blamed in the slayings of hip hop stars Tupac Shakur, whose 1996 Las Vegas murder remains unsolved, and Christopher "Biggie Smalls" Wallace.
As for the Watkins and Akins slayings, "whether rapper stuff was involved or if there was another motive -- we have a lot of information coming in, and we're just trying to sort it all out," Metro Sgt. Mike Thompson said.
Police had not reported any arrests in the case as of this morning, but they said they are looking for three people believed to have information on the crimes: Andre "Mac Minister" Dow, 34, a rap artist and promoter, Tanisha Aaron, 27 and Jason Mathis, 24.
Thompson said Dow lives in Las Vegas, while Aaron and Mathis come to Las Vegas frequently and are believed to be from the San Francisco area.
Dow made headlines five years ago when he and another rapper brawled, along with their entourages, at the Source Awards, a nationally-televised hip hop awards show in California. The fights forced Pasadena authorities to shut down the show.
Watkins lived the gangster life he described in his lyrics, according to Alonzo Washington, a comic book artist and prominent activist in Kansas City's black community.
Officer Darin Snapp, spokesman for Kansas City Police, said Watkins was a known gang affiliate, meaning he "was in a gang, or close to it."
Three years ago police charged him and another man with two counts of murder in connection with a drive-by shooting of a pregnant 17-year-old girl, Shamika Posey, and her fetus, but the charges were dropped.
"Witnesses became uncooperative," John Liebnitz, spokesman for the Jackson County prosecutor's office, said. "No witnesses, no case, and we were forced to dismiss. Witnesses were afraid to come forward, afraid for their lives."
His most recent arrest was May 8, Mother's Day, when he was charged with domestic violence for allegedly beating the mother of his infant, Snapp said.
In November authorities had investigated Watkins as a "person of interest" in the drive-by shooting death of Vallejo, Calif., rapper Andre "Mac Dre" Hicks, 31, in Kansas City.
Hicks was gunned down after he refused to perform at a rap show that Watkins had a hand in organizing, Washington said, fueling rumors that Watkins had some involvement in the crime.
Following Hicks' death Watkins wrote a song in which he apparently bragged about the killing.
But authorities couldn't gather enough evidence against him and no charges were filed. Hicks' murder remains unsolved.
"Watkins and some of his followers were people police wanted to talk to after the murder, but he was never officially classified as a suspect," Liebnitz said. "He was a person of interest at the time of his murder."
Washington said he and others in Kansas City believe Watkins was killed in retaliation for Hicks' murder.
"It's not necessarily written in stone that his murder was directly related to the Mac Dre situation, but what it illustrates is that the lifestyle they were promoting led to violence," Washington said. "Now he (Watkins) is slain the same way as Mac Dre."
Washington persuaded a hip hop radio station to run public service announcements asking for the violence to stop, and he handed out fliers on the street.
Watkins and another rapper appeared earlier this year on the Larry Elder show, a national conservative public affairs television program. They spoke about violence and gangster rap, and Washington appeared to counter their statements and make a plea for peace.
On the show, Watkins said, "All there was for black youth in Kansas City was crime," Washington said.
However, others say it wasn't a rap rivalry but rather enemies Watkins made in the Kansas City community that led to his death.
"I'm pretty sure people were cheering when they heard about it," Mac Brown, a Kansas City resident who knew Watkins, said. "Too many people are laying in their graves because of the havoc he caused here."
But Watkins' former girlfriend, Charlene Henderson, said he was a sweet person who gave in to peer pressure, which led him down the wrong path.
"He loved to be on stage. He loved to hear and see people rapping his songs," she said. "If his life would have been a little bit different, I think he would have been a prosperous lyricist, I really do."
Watkins was shot in the abdomen about two years ago after leaving a radio station appearance, police said. After that, Henderson said, he released an album titled "The Untouchable."
After Hicks was slain Watkins penned a rap about killing the "Fizzleman," Hicks' nickname.
Although many people suspected Watkins in Hicks death, Henderson didn't.
"I asked him about it, and he said he wasn't involved," she said.
When people in Kansas City found out about Watkins' murder Tuesday, "a lot of people are saying, 'You know the reason why he's gone. Those Cali(fornia) people got him,'¢thº" Henderson said.
She said Watkins always had a big entourage, and when she was with him, he always tried to make sure he was safe.
"He was young and lived a wild life and had a fast life," she said, adding that she had a feeling that one day something bad would happen to him as a result. "That's why I started venturing off from him."
Watkins liked to gamble and was known to throw dice at the riverboat casinos to earn extra money, Henderson said.
Brown said he believes Watkins might have been lured to California with the promise of a record deal, brought to Las Vegas under the guise of gambling and then taken to an area near Southern Highlands and shot.
"A number of people wanted his head here," he said. "He had so much blood on his hands, it was just a matter of time."
Akins, the man found slain with Watkins, had two warrants out of Kansas City, Kansas for aggravated assault and assault on a police officer, authorities said.
Hicks wasn't the first California rapper to die in Kansas City. A year ago San Diego rapper Ramone C. Davis was found shot in a house. No arrests have been made in that case.
Washington said he is disappointed that his activism didn't prevent another death, but he hopes the violence won't continue.
"When you live by the sword, you die by it," he said. "It's always sad when the violence they (rappers) promote results in violence in real life.
"I don't know what the call to arms will be. The next time a West Coast rapper comes to Kansas City there could be some more violence. But I want to make sure it stops here."
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Three Suspects Sought in Slaying of Rapper And Friend
May 25, 2005, 06:46 PM Email to a Friend Printer Friendly Version
Andre "Mac Minister" Dow, Tanisha Aaron and Jason Mathis
Contact Reporter Cindy Cesare.
A war between West Coast and Midwest rappers is blamed for two murders in Las Vegas. The men's bodies were found in a neighborhood under construction in Southern Highlands on Monday. Now police are searching for three suspects.
Metro police raided a home Tuesday night, but the suspects already fled. The home is just blocks away from the murder scene.
Brandon Marx, a neighbor says, "I heard a lot of people saying, come out with your hands up." Marx was at his girlfriend's Southern Highlands home Tuesday night when he heard Metro's SWAT team knock down the neighbor's door.
Marx says, "I just went out to see and there were three SWAT guys behind the truck and they were telling us to go back in the house, go back in the house. So, we just went back in."
Police were looking for the renter, 24-year-old Jason Mathis, murder suspect, 34-year-old Andre Dow and 27-year-old Tanisha Aaron, the owner of the car where the two murdered men were found on Monday morning.
Dow, known as "Mac Minister," made headlines five years ago when he and another rapper brawled at the nationally televises Source Awards in Pasadena, California.
The bodies of the victims have been identified as 22-year-old Jermaine "Cowboy" Atkins and his best friend, 23-year-old Anthony Watkins, known as rapper, Fat Tone.
In his music, the Kansas City rapper documents the gang war between him and people associated with rapper Mac Dre from the San Francisco Bay area. Mac Dre was killed in a drive-by on a Kansas City highway last November. Rumor has been that Fat Tone was the shooter, but he was never arrested for the crime.
The victims' family says the two men were in town for a Snoop Dogg concert at the Palms Tuesday night. The family says that Mac Minister lured the two men to their death on Sunday night at the MGM Grand hotel by promising to hook them up with Snoop Dogg's record label. Instead they ended up dead in a Southern Highlands neighborhood. Police have found the suspect's vehicle dumped in Vallejo, California.
Police found little furniture inside the home and believe that the three suspects are on the run in the Bay area now.
Sources at Metro say that the Snoop Dogg concert was almost canceled in fear of retaliation at the event. But a spokesperson at the Palms hotel says that wasn't true, and the concert went on as scheduled without any added extra security.
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Rest In Peace
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RIP
Never knew of him dont care to find out.
but I say he deserved to die no matter what, He Rapped about Killing Mac Dre now If he had actually something to do with Mac Dre then I have no remorse, If he didnt have anything at all to do with it then I still have no remorse for him because he lied about it, took credit for it, and made a mockery of his death and he deserved the repercussion. Fuck You Fat Tone, either way you got what you deserve >:(
this is all said if he really did rap about killing Dre, if not then I'm sorry for him.
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r.i.p.
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none of us know so we should probaly stop speculating
I'm not blaming him for the murder. It's Fat Tone himself who said he killed Mac Dre in one of his songs. He dissed Dre after he died, saying he didnt like him so he killed him. Shit, he ever described the murder.. that's some crazy shit. I posted about this track a pair of months ago, but nobody really gave a fuck about it. Now that Fat Tone is dead, you care.
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RIP
Never knew of him dont care to find out.
but I say he deserved to die no matter what, He Rapped about Killing Mac Dre now If he had actually something to do with Mac Dre then I have no remorse, If he didnt have anything at all to do with it then I still have no remorse for him because he lied about it, took credit for it, and made a mockery of his death and he deserved the repercussion. Fuck You Fat Tone, either way you got what you deserve >:(
this is all said if he really did rap about killing Dre, if not then I'm sorry for him.
R.I.P. MAC DRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Go back to your orginal thread man and about fat tone bragging about killing mac dre. and i promise you i had a couple of replies in that thread. dont say im just caring about this now because thats false
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Go back to your orginal thread man and about fat tone bragging about killing mac dre. and i promise you i had a couple of replies in that thread. dont say im just caring about this now because thats false
I remember that. I was talking in general, not about you. ;)
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^^^ahh ok, all good
yeah this is crazy though, i wasnt too familar with mac minister but hes in yuk's uga2 dvd so i know a little about him. are you guys sure mac minister bralwed with b-legit at the source awards??
they were both in yuk's dvd together like they were cool
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^^^ahh ok, all good
yeah this is crazy though, i wasnt too familar with mac minister but hes in yuk's uga2 dvd so i know a little about him. are you guys sure mac minister bralwed with b-legit at the source awards??
they were both in yuk's dvd together like they were cool
Mac Minister also appeared on a Snoop's The Last meal too. I don't think it was B Legit he was fighting with, it was E-40.
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yeah he fought with 40 but B-La is the one who jumped in & put him to sleep......im pretty sure the beefs have been squashed by now....but mac minister loooves to run his mouth so you never know
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thats true from the video clips ive seen with mac minister that guy seems like he aint fuckin around and he does love to run his mouth
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with a name like that i figured he died of a heart attack
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Yea, I was surprised to see that people were saying he was from the bay...One of his more popular songs was "Kansas City Niggaz Keep It Real" with Tech N9ne...
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Tone made a name for himself rap-wise for coming up under Killa Tay and he was down with West Coast Mafia so thats the main reason niggas think he from the Yay