West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: DPG4Life on June 08, 2005, 05:06:59 AM
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that pac's california love is an original song???
it's not a beat using samples, but today i discovered it's not original
the basic idea of the california love beat has been stolen from: Joe Cocker - Woman To Woman
califorina love is a great song anyway... but i was really suprised when i found that out and was wondering how many of you knew..
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yeah i found out a few years ago, it is kind of shocking when you find out one of your favorite beats was HEAVILY taken from another song.
i mean the most shocking one is the Nuthin' But A G Thang one but i figure everybody knows about that
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Older heads probably already knew that track - EPMD and K-Solo used it on 'Knick Knack Paddy Wack' in the late 80s.
Plus, I was sure that 'Woman to Woman' sample was credited in AEOM? It definately is on the promo 12" I got.
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yeah i found out a few years ago, it is kind of shocking when you find out one of your favorite beats was HEAVILY taken from another song.
i mean the most shocking one is the Nuthin' But A G Thang one but i figure everybody knows about that
i think i came across the nuthin but a g thang OG
but i was bussy or something and didnt care that much... i dont know why
but now where you say it i think i recognize - who did the original, what is it called?
but im really shocked about california love.... i would've never thought its not original
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I knew it sampled that.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/articles/diggin/
Check out Overseers Diggin' Articles from back in the day and read about a listen to some of the samples used on the Chronic, Doggystlye and ATLs BML
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I knew it sampled that.
yea sure, but it doesnt sample it!... i already wrote that - its not sampled - its "only" the idea.. they keys and the rhythm... its just very easy to reproduce - so no need for sampling
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that thing overseer wrote up, the same song is sampled 3 times, twice on dogglystyle and once on the chronic, i find that a little hard to belive since that "sample FAQ" thing is down
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It's credited as a sample on Pac's Greatest Hits but not AEOM.
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no shit
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that thing overseer wrote up, the same song is sampled 3 times, twice on dogglystyle and once on the chronic, i find that a little hard to belive since that "sample FAQ" thing is down
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that thing overseer wrote up, the same song is sampled 3 times, twice on dogglystyle and once on the chronic, i find that a little hard to belive since that "sample FAQ" thing is down
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2 times on one album :|
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go check up and dont run down my shit until you have FACTS..
my source was the sample faq for a lot of that.. i even creditted the sources on there!
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Tha hook part is a straight Jack from Ronnie Hudson`s "westcoast poplock" track..that is produced by Zapp btw...
Peace
LazyL
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go check up and dont run down my shit until you have FACTS..
my source was the sample faq for a lot of that.. i even creditted the sources on there!
im not running down, im saying its just hard to believe, im sure u did ur research
but twice on one album :o
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here is a piece of
Joe Cocker - Woman to Woman
h t t p://s49.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2UAFLEQHMWSK73NRB585J59I5V
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its not hard to believe - just keep in mind that you have to use drum samples in a drum machine... and thats what dre uses.. probably not a MPC back in the day... (not sure though) - but definately some kind of drum machine...
i dont know what songs and samples youre talking about, i was looking for those 2 samples on doggystyle and couldnt find it immediately... but i think it might have been a drum sample
and the drums on doggystyle sound pretty much the same anyway... they all sound like typical parliament funk drums... not all, but a lot do
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its "not just" ( knee deep).. classic p-funk drum beat..
in both cases liste don the doggystyle page i credt the sample FAQ as the source .. same with the chronic
so a 100% hit there..
go peep the credits for "black mafia life" too ATL also sampled it on "never missin a beat" AND "call it what you want"
this is a song snoop was supposed be on.. the day he was meant to be on it he went to meet dre instead and made deep cover shortly after...
thats why "never missing a beat" has a long section where the beat runs.. coz thats where snoop was meant to spit!
for "call it what you want" i even added the following comment
Not Just (Knee Deep) is credited as being used on 'Never Missin' A Beat', and Freak Of The Week seems to be a track based on the last segment of Not Just (Knee Deep) so it could be that the Sample FAQ is wrong on this one.
all three albums sampled a the same p-funk tracks which is partly why i did those 3..
and this from the page...
" always intended that the next 3 album's in the list would be Del Tha Funkee Homosapiens I Wish My Brother George Was Here, Warren G's Regulate.. G-Funk Era and Above The Law's Livin Like Hustlers "
I Wish My Brother George Was Here and G-Funk Era ALSO sample a lot of tracks on the original 3 albums
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Kool Keith also did a track called "Funky" with the California Love beat as a part of Ultra with Time Dog, it is not the Dre beat but a SAME sounding one
I'm not sure but I think that track came out before the Dre and 2Pac one
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http://www.dubcnn.com/articles/diggin/
Check out Overseers Diggin' Articles from back in the day and read about a listen to some of the samples used on the Chronic, Doggystlye and ATLs BML
I remember you had that ever since igangsta.com
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that pac's california love is an original song???
it's not a beat using samples, but today i discovered it's not original
the basic idea of the california love beat has been stolen from: Joe Cocker - Woman To Woman
califorina love is a great song anyway... but i was really suprised when i found that out and was wondering how many of you knew..
the chorus too. its from Zapp & Roger - West Coast Pop Lockin