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Title: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: kingwell on June 10, 2005, 02:19:25 PM
What do you think, or know?  I know when it leaked he was saying that wasn't all the songs, but when it came out in stores it was the same shit.  I think he was just trying to downplay the short record talk until it came out in stores so it wouldn't hurt his first week sales as much.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: NobodyButMe on June 10, 2005, 02:21:28 PM
well, it was short in comparison to todays standards, but back in the day, most albums only had like 8 tracks on them..
at least they're all pretty much quality tracks. which, is more than i can say for more than 80% of the albums out there with more than 11 tracks
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Lord Funk on June 10, 2005, 02:27:06 PM
I think he was just trying to downplay the short record talk until it came out in stores so it wouldn't hurt his first week sales as much.

Yup - my thoughts exactly.

The irony is that the record is so dope because it's so short. 45 minutes of top quality music... the whole thing would have been watered down if they added another seven tracks just to pad it out.

Today was actually the first time I listened to the album all the way through (twice) since buying it... got to say it's excellent. The 'classic' talk is just silly but you can't deny it's 4 or 4.5 out of 5. Amazing stuff.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on June 10, 2005, 02:40:04 PM
It was quality over quantity like ever dope album is
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: white Boy on June 10, 2005, 02:55:03 PM
you say it was short, i say it was perfect
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Kill on June 10, 2005, 03:00:04 PM
whatīs the album that most people consider the best hiphop record ever? How long is it?
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: white Boy on June 10, 2005, 03:01:34 PM
whatīs the album that most people consider the best hiphop record ever? How long is it?
exactly
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: kingwell on June 10, 2005, 03:29:19 PM
I agree totally. I was just wondering why he said it would be longer.   If you start putting filler in an album, some people will sleep on it.  All killer is what Common did here, and it was a good choice.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: eKardz on June 10, 2005, 03:38:02 PM
the common album was dope.  the shortness though does leave you wanting for more, which is what any mc should do.  come to think of it the songs are what make me want more.  i love this cd because its not just the same shit that is out and any cd no matter how long or short it is that doesnt reflect how good it will be.  im just going on and on about nothing right now cause im high as fuck but like white boy said, you say its short i say its perfect.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: kingwell on June 10, 2005, 03:53:55 PM
I mean short as in what most people think an album should be, length wise. Most of my favorite albums are short. Creeping on ah come up, Westcoasanostra, technically 'Be' could be considered an EP too because it is under 40 minutes. Anyways seeing as we all agree on this point, back to the original purpose of my thread.  Why do you think he said there would be more tracks in interviews?
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: eKardz on June 10, 2005, 04:09:37 PM
i think mad people would sleep cause a majority of people dont wanna pay for a full priced cd for 11 tracks.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: kingwell on June 10, 2005, 05:14:07 PM
Yeah they dont think it's worth it or whatever, thats why I try before I buy.  If i like the album I'll buy it regardless of the price.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Bigjames on June 10, 2005, 06:11:21 PM
I thought there was gonna be a remix of The Corner or something else on it. What happened to that?
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: kingwell on June 10, 2005, 08:21:38 PM
Putting the live version of the food on the album was nice. the studio version didn't have enough energy to it as the one he did on chappelles show did.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: MANBEARPIG. on June 10, 2005, 10:40:05 PM
^I'd want both, which is why I got both^

and I say 11 quality track album >>>>>>22 track album with 18 tracks of filler and bullshit(50 cent)
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Young Dan Iza on June 11, 2005, 12:42:21 AM
ALL KILLER, NO FILLER!
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Woozie on June 11, 2005, 05:28:04 AM
I was just wondering why he said it would be longer. If you start putting filler in an album, some people will sleep on it.  All killer is what Common did here, and it was a good choice.

I concur  :)
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: ABN on June 11, 2005, 05:40:14 AM
well of course it can be good to release a shorter album and havin all bangin joints on there but i have much more respect for some one can put out a long classic album(The Chronic 2001 for example). i havenīt heard this Common album coz iīm gonna buy it but i just havenīt gotten around to do so yet :P
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Elevz on June 11, 2005, 07:21:25 AM
well of course it can be good to release a shorter album and havin all bangin joints on there but i have much more respect for some one can put out a long classic album(The Chronic 2001 for example). i havenīt heard this Common album coz iīm gonna buy it but i just havenīt gotten around to do so yet :P

Not everyone thinks all 22 tracks on 2001 are classic. That's the point; it's kinda impossible releasing an album with 22 tracks that everyone will find amazing.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: ABN on June 11, 2005, 07:28:42 AM
^well i do think that every single joint on there is bangin and most of the people i know thinks the same.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: white Boy on June 11, 2005, 07:38:06 AM
^ you have somewhat of a point, but did u forget about the pointless skits... but track wise i do find every music track, which is like what 16/17 amazing or at least good...
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: gzs on June 12, 2005, 07:09:43 PM
I think the album is dope but overrated. Hiphopsite.com for example gives it 5 @'s. But there is nothing really new on that album. There is way too much religious talk on there. John Legend's voice annoys me and should have been left out. 

However the overall feeling of the album is nice. You can play it without skipping. There are no fillers on there. Some productions are even extremely good: intro, go and chi city for example.

Although in my opinion a classic should bring something completely refreshing: lyrically, conceptwise or productionwise.

While the beats are standard Kanye, the concept is Illmatic and the lyrics are standard Common, this album can't be considered classic.

   
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: Doggystylin on October 25, 2005, 08:45:15 AM
^I'd want both, which is why I got both^

and I say 11 quality track album >>>>>>22 track album with 18 tracks of filler and bullshit(50 cent)

where did you get the studio version from? is it cdq? hook it up man
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on October 25, 2005, 09:48:23 AM
^Check this thread out:http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=93235.0
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: C-Swift on October 26, 2005, 12:11:33 PM
It was quality over quantity like ever dope album is

Exactly
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: late night on October 26, 2005, 02:52:51 PM
hell yeah all the ppl in this thread know what good music is... i thought when i got it was gonna be one of those albums that "i like alot but nobody feels the same"..... and even though its hasent been that long since its been released imo its a classic...
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: coola on October 27, 2005, 09:14:20 AM
damn i just peeped the album for the first time... and its pretty damn hot... only gone through 1 and a half spins, already feelin it... top production by kanye, and common's on point as always.
Title: Re: Why was Common's Be Final release so short?
Post by: tonyscarbones on October 27, 2005, 09:28:18 AM
the chappelle version of the food sounds like shitty shit

the 12" studio version is way better vibe wise

try cruisin and listenin to it

makes me happy

I had to burn a new version of the album with studio version

he shoulda had chappelle version as a bonus cut

fuck that faggot common