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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: eS El Duque on June 12, 2005, 12:47:48 PM
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The top 5's in your opinion (all era's)
1. Led Zeppelin 8)
2. The Beatles
3. The Doors (I don't give a shit what people say, they were dope 8))
4. Rolling Stones
5. The Who
then The Jimi Hendrix Experience with U2 close behind.
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1 - The beatles
2 - Led zeppelin
3 - Pink Floyd
4 - The doors
5 - The rolling stones
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1. the Beatles
2. the Doors
3. Pink Floyd
4. Led Zeppelin
5. the Rolling Stones
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1. The Beatles
2. The Doors
3. Led Zeppelin
4. Cream
5. Sly and The Family Stone
The Guess Who would be the only other band I'd put with those 5.
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^ Sly´s a bit of a difficult case IMO. I mean, I´m not denying you could refer to it as rock, but it really isn´t what i´d associate with a "rock band", or with that term respectively
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come on
this is another impossible task, but here´s my attempt at completing it (personal taste):
1. Pink Floyd
2. The Beatles
3. Led Zeppelin
4. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
5. Red Hot Chili Peppers
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^ is that your fav list, or u really consider red hot chilli peppers as the 5th best rock band?
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^ is that your fav list, or u really consider red hot chilli peppers as the 5th best rock band?
(personal taste):
but I do have to say, people do tend to be much less critical towards older bands and place them in a higher category cause they´re legends. It depends on how you define "greatest". The legacy of a band just influences people when they decide who´s "best", if subliminally. Even if it´s supposedly about the music itself, that always plays a role...that´s why so many people consider a above-average-but-far-from-incredible MC named 2pac "the best rapper ever".
That said, i gotta say the Chilis are indeed a great band. Their music is creative, versatile, some of their funk rock is incredibly precise and hard to play (believe me, i got friends in funk rock bands saying that), they put out some of the best music of the 90´s, they can play anything from funk to Under-The-Bridge-type stuff to even Ska, they have come up with creative and great blends of different genres, they are known for some of the best live performances.....and yeah, i just love them
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^ hey man i agree with you, but in my book, their legendary status will never be unbeaten... i know its sucks , but thats just the way it is... but i love the chili peppers def 1 of the best in the 90s
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^^^making a top 5 for the 90's would be really hard lol
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for me
1- oasis
2- chilli peppers
3- u2
4 - nirvana
5 - um... cant think
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^ Sly´s a bit of a difficult case IMO. I mean, I´m not denying you could refer to it as rock, but it really isn´t what i´d associate with a "rock band", or with that term respectively
I do agree with you in ways. I don't tend to seperate music into genres very effectively. For example, I noticed you but Jimi on your list, but he could easily be considered a Blues artist, as could Zeppelin be seen as a Blues or Metal band as opposed to Rock. The Doors as well had many Blues elements. Music is music to me.
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for me
1- oasis
2- chilli peppers
3- u2
4 - nirvana
5 - um... cant think
Pearl Jam was better than Nirvana do they could be in the top 5. Pumpkins were great too.
Lincoln; did you mean The Who when you said Guess Who? Guess Who were good and all but I can't see them being near the top 5. I think their second incarnation "BTO" was better as a whole. These Eyes, and American Woman are great but the rest of the stuff just lacks in my opinion.
As for my top 5. I could never pick a top 5 but I'll try and name 5 from each decade (no solo performers)
50s was really more of a solo era with great back up bands so I'll start in the 60s.
THE SIXTIES;
The Beatles
The Who
The Rolling Stones
The Doors
The Band
honourable mention to CSNY, The Buffalo Springfeild, the Hollies, the Turtles, the Byrds, well there's just too damned many to name
THE SEVENTIES;
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
The Clash
Black Sabbath
Aerosmith
honourable mention to the Ramones, Deep Purple, Lynard Skynard, Deep Purple, Fleetwood Mac, Genesis, and the Eagles
THE EIGHTIES
Metallica
GnR
Van Halen
U2
The Police
honourable mention to Bon Jovi, The Cure, AC/DC, the Smiths, Iron Maiden
THE NINETIES
Pearl Jam
The Smashing Pumpkins
Nirvana
RHCP
NIN
honourable mention to Offspring, Oasis, U2, Soundgarden, Green Day, and N'Synch(just kidding)
All my honourable mentions could easily join the top 5.
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^lol you spelled some of the bands names wrong, and c'mon man the police better than AC/DC? and the band a top 5 band of all time in the 60's? but it's all good man, if you really listen to that stuff you got some good taste.
the 60's
1. The Beatles - c'mon it's the biggest band that ever was
2. The Beach Boys-for a while they were either right there up there with the beatles or ahead of them
3. The Jimi Hendrix Experience-Propbably the single greatest musical artists
4. The Doors-They created 'mood' music
5. The Rolling Stones- they have many classic singles
the 70's
1. Pink Floyd- Music experimentation at its finest
2. Led Zeppelin-one of the best pure raw bands
3. Black Sabbath- the most influencial band from 1970 on
4. Ac/Dc- they were the nirvana of the late 70's
5. Aerosmith- One of the greatest male singers of all time with one of the greatest riff guitarists
the 80's
1. Metallica- If Bach or Ludvig had an electric guitar and overdrive this is what they'd sound like
2. Guns N Roses- the greatest debut album of all time period
3. Van Halen- c'mon eddie and diamond dave
4. u2-they made the joshua tree, nuff said
5. Iron Maiden- like Metallica but to a lesser extent.
the 90's
1. Red Hot Chili Peppers- easily the most influencial band of the 90's
2. Nirvana-They get credit for something that they DID NOT DO, but don't get credit for what they DID do, spoke to a generation
3. Nine Inch Nails- took rock production to another level
4. Korn- like em or hate em they're the band that every heavy metal band has tried to be since 96 on
5. Rage Against the machine-helped set the tone of the decade more and more with every album
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3. The Doors (I don't give a shit what people say, they were dope 8))
who says they're not dope?
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1. The Beatles
2. The Beach Boys
3. The Who
4. Oasis
5. The Kinks
Or at least something like that I guess. 5 years time Arctic Monkeys will be in the list. Honourable mention to Stone Roses, Queen, Rolling Stones, The Doors, Beautiful South, Byrds, Fleetwood Mac, Crowded House (are they classed as Rock?) R.E.M etc.
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It's too hard to make a top 5. Here are some bands i really like from 60's and on
Pink Floyd
The Doors
Jimi Hendrix Experience
Beatles
Cream
David Bowie
Led Zeppelin
Queen
Radiohead
Portishead
Nirvana
Metallica
Carlos Santana's Band
Deep Purple
Mike Patton's Bands (Mr. Bungle, Tomahawk, Fantomas)
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queen
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queen
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^lol you spelled some of the bands names wrong, and c'mon man the police better than AC/DC? and the band a top 5 band of all time in the 60's? but it's all good man, if you really listen to that stuff you got some good taste.
What names did I misspell?
I never liked AC/DC as much in the 80s as the Police. Back in Black was great, but a lot of their 80s stuff was so similar. Their home run albums are in the 70s with Scott. Police, while not many, had some very grerat albums in the 80s. Keep in mind this was the shit decade.
I never listed a top 5 all time. My 60s bands were just that; my top 5 of the 60s, not all time. I don't think there's anything wrong with my 5. I never really saw Jimi's band as a group, and just see it as Jimi. He had some great players behind him but it was marketed using him and him alone. Otherwise I would have added Dylan and the Band, and Springsteen and the E Street Band. Maybe even Neil Young with Crazy Horse. But I see all the albums by those artists as solo efforts.
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^ Sly´s a bit of a difficult case IMO. I mean, I´m not denying you could refer to it as rock, but it really isn´t what i´d associate with a "rock band", or with that term respectively
I do agree with you in ways. I don't tend to seperate music into genres very effectively. For example, I noticed you but Jimi on your list, but he could easily be considered a Blues artist, as could Zeppelin be seen as a Blues or Metal band as opposed to Rock. The Doors as well had many Blues elements. Music is music to me.
I agree 100% on that last sentence of yours. But in a way, hiphop is rock´n´roll, too. Since this topic as such is impossible to contribute to without classifying and seperating into genres, you´re forced to draw a line somewhere. For that reason, I wouldn´t have thought as ´far´ as Sly or Parliament, etc, but I´m not trying to say you´re ´wrong´
for me
1- oasis
2- chilli peppers
3- u2
4 - nirvana
5 - um... cant think
Pearl Jam was better than Nirvana do they could be in the top 5. Pumpkins were great too.
Pearl Jam was the better band, technically, but I enjoy listening to Nirvana´s stuff more, I´m just feeling it more. The catchiness and the atmosphere of some of Nirvana´s material is unparalleled in grunge IMO, even with competition like "Ten". You are responsible for that quote i had in my sig for a while, keep that in mind :)
And as for Nirvana, Jake, what are they credited for that they didn´t do? Elaborate music? Well, they did not make that. Good music? IMO their music was genius, everybody who ever touched a guitar is capable of playing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or "Come As You Are", yet that stuff is atmospheric, catchy and just plain dope. That´s magnificent IMO...and yes, they did speak to a generation, but I think they do get credit for that as well, Kurt at least
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^ Sly´s a bit of a difficult case IMO. I mean, I´m not denying you could refer to it as rock, but it really isn´t what i´d associate with a "rock band", or with that term respectively
I do agree with you in ways. I don't tend to seperate music into genres very effectively. For example, I noticed you but Jimi on your list, but he could easily be considered a Blues artist, as could Zeppelin be seen as a Blues or Metal band as opposed to Rock. The Doors as well had many Blues elements. Music is music to me.
I agree 100% on that last sentence of yours. But in a way, hiphop is rock´n´roll, too. Since this topic as such is impossible to contribute to without classifying and seperating into genres, you´re forced to draw a line somewhere. For that reason, I wouldn´t have thought as ´far´ as Sly or Parliament, etc, but I´m not trying to say you´re ´wrong´
for me
1- oasis
2- chilli peppers
3- u2
4 - nirvana
5 - um... cant think
Pearl Jam was better than Nirvana do they could be in the top 5. Pumpkins were great too.
Pearl Jam was the better band, technically, but I enjoy listening to Nirvana´s stuff more, I´m just feeling it more. The catchiness and the atmosphere of some of Nirvana´s material is unparalleled in grunge IMO, even with competition like "Ten". You are responsible for that quote i had in my sig for a while, keep that in mind :)
And as for Nirvana, Jake, what are they credited for that they didn´t do? Elaborate music? Well, they did not make that. Good music? IMO their music was genius, everybody who ever touched a guitar is capable of playing "Smells Like Teen Spirit" or "Come As You Are", yet that stuff is atmospheric, catchy and just plain dope. That´s magnificent IMO...and yes, they did speak to a generation, but I think they do get credit for that as well, Kurt at least
I never meant to downplay Nirvana. I just think Pearl Jam is better. Not just technically, but musically. Ten was one of their worst albums IMO, and it was amazing. What bothers me about Nirvana is all the extra attention they get since the suicide. I mean Pearl Jam, and Peppers sold morer records, maybe even the pumpkins too, but Nirvana is mentioned in such a higher regard like they were te only band of the time. It's all propaganda. Not that they weren't good, but they were not bigger than the other bands at that time. History just chooses to remember them that way.
I have no problem with someone liking Nirvana's music better.
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What about Kiss ?
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What about Kiss ?
they were known for their concerts
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Shallow, I´m too young to judge what it was like back in ´90-´93...but i do still think "Nevermind" deserves the exaltation, although I agree absolutely that suicide/death turning stars into legends and fans into worshippers is a phenomenon I don´t like either and I´m well aware of it
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Shallow, I´m too young to judge what it was like back in ´90-´93...but i do still think "Nevermind" deserves the exaltation, although I agree absolutely that suicide/death turning stars into legends and fans into worshippers is a phenomenon I don´t like either and I´m well aware of it
Well just take a look at the sales. I was around and while Curt was huge, so was Eddy, and Kiedes, as well as Corgan.
Ten went 11 platinum
Vs went 7 platinum with no singles or videos
Vitalogy went 5 well after they stopped promting there work
Pre Death Nirvana
Nevermind was 5 platinum, later hit 10
In Utero was 2 platinum, later hit 5
and Unplugged went 5 platinum after Death
all the other releases never went multi platinum
If they were the bigger band then why did they sell less. Nirvana off their best 3 went 20 platinum post death, 7 platinukm pre death, while PJ went 23 platinum with no reason outside the music to buy. Now I'm not saying Pearl Jam was way bigger because given time Nirvana still could have sold a lot anyway, but history barely even mentions Jam while Nirvana gets all the credit for a Seatle sound that was around well before Nevermind.
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^^ has to be mentioned, Nirvana already had their sound, if a bit different on "Bleach" in ´89. There are more bands like the Wipers, Mission of Burma or even the great Sonic Youth that get too little credit for what they contributed to the formation of this music style. I think looking at it from that angle it´s more like Nirvana get too much credit than like Pearl Jam get too little. but i believe your stats, i know "Ten" sold a lot
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^^ has to be mentioned, Nirvana already had their sound, if a bit different on "Bleach" in ´89. There are more bands like the Wipers, Mission of Burma or even the great Sonic Youth that get too little credit for what they contributed to the formation of this music style. I think looking at it from that angle it´s more like Nirvana get too much credit than like Pearl Jam get too little. but i believe your stats, i know "Ten" sold a lot
I agree with you. I'm not trying to argue that Pearl Jam should get all the credit. If they did I'd be complaining the same way. The Seatle sound was there before both bands ever formed. What I was arguing when it came to Nirvana vs Pearl Jam was the fame each had, and Pearl Jam was a slighlty bigger band main stream than Nirvana was. Not much bigger, but a little. While Curt was getting into public arguments with Axl Rose and marrying Courtney Love, Eddy was this sex symbol type figure for teenage girls, which escalated with reports of Shannon Doherty urging to meet him but getting turned away. What Eddy had that Curt didn't was the desire to make the music more important than the image. Curt complained about fame but he was full of shit. Eddy easily turned his mega star image into a distant memory by staying off TV, and not making music videos. After 2 albums of that the Pearl Jam fans that remained were only the most devout and all the fad fans disappeared. He kept his mouth shut for a few years and Pearl Jam faded away while still making some of their best music. Eddy Vedder can easily walk down the street and not be noticed or even remembered by the common person. Kurt Cobain could have done the exact same thing. Instead he played into the spotlight with his pretentious interviews, public feuds, wacky relationship, and high profile suicide attempts. Then he kills himself and leaves this holier than thou suicide note. He was a glutton for attention, and that's why it was so hard for him. He wanted to have his cake and eat it too, while Eddy gladly took the cake back and snacked on a cookie instead.
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btw i completely forget radiohead, def 1 of bet of 90s
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i like the white stripes. and def leppard had some bangers
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1. Motorhead
2. Iron Maiden
3. Bathory
4. Napalm Death
5. The Clash
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In no particular order:
Queen
The Beatles
Cream
Police
The Jam
Radiohead, Coldplay, REM, U2 (Early), Oasis (Early), Stone Roses, Rolling Stones, Black Sabbath, Led Zepplin, Aerosmith could all change with the bands named