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Title: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on July 04, 2005, 05:05:58 PM
I've thought since the late 90's that it was going to be Detroits time to grab the spotlight.  With Eminem blowing up, I thought he was going to take Detroit there with him.  They've had the most intense underground scene for the last 10 years or so, but Eminem has now fallen past his prime, and still there has been no other platinum rap artist to come out of Detroit.  Detroits style is dark, grimy, and suicidal, maybe that's why they stay underground.

-Royce was all set to blow up.  Workin with Dr. Dre and Eminem, he probably could have gotten a deal with Aftermath back in the day.  But he made two major mistakes, he signed with Tommy Boy for the money, and then his manager revealed to Vibe that Eminem was taking Dre through songs word for word for the new Chronic album.  So Dre stopped working with Royce.  (that was the rumor)

-Eminem brought out D-12 and the group album went platinum but still no one from the crew has had any success going solo.  Proof's been talking about a solo record for 3 years now, and Bizzare's record must not have been dope enough to earn him a contract with Shady/Interscope, which means the album will most likely flop.

-The Obie Trice project came out at the hieght of Shady Records, Dre hooked him up with a banger "Shit Hits The Fan", the first single "Got Some Teethe" got it's fair share of radio and video play, the album was marketed and hyped by the marketing machine of Interscope Records, yet the album struggled to even sell gold, maybe one day it will crawl to platinum, but that doesn't count.  I still think Obie's best work was back in the day with "Dope, Jobs, Homeless".

-Eminem's producers the Bass Brothers have made a couple of attempts to showcase other Detroit talent.  That one cat, I can't remember his name, had that single called "That's The Way We Roll", I think he was even signed to Web/Interscope, but the album was never released.   Then they have this new cat King Gordy, he has a few decent cuts, on "Nightmares" he spits like Biggie on "Notorious Thugs", still the album has fell way below the radar.

..............Detroit may stay permanently underground.  Which isn't necassarily a bad thing.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: rafsta on July 04, 2005, 07:08:15 PM
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Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Trauma-san on July 04, 2005, 07:25:54 PM
Hmm.... lesse here.

D-12 made tons of money and went platinum.

Kid Rock is an international superstar, and has went multi-platinum multiple times.

Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise is from Detroit, what yall know about Robert Bradley?

The White Stripes are also from Detroit, and are international superstars, considered one of the best bands in the world, and pretty much run rock right now. 
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on July 04, 2005, 07:28:14 PM
Hmm.... lesse here.

D-12 made tons of money and went platinum.

Kid Rock is an international superstar, and has went multi-platinum multiple times.

Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise is from Detroit, what yall know about Robert Bradley?

The White Stripes are also from Detroit, and are international superstars, considered one of the best bands in the world, and pretty much run rock right now. 

Clearly my thread was talking about hip-hop albums.   
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 04, 2005, 08:27:03 PM
I think their sound is not for the mainstream...Look at Slum Village...they do have a fan base but was popular only becuz Kanye Was on their single
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Trauma-san on July 04, 2005, 09:29:20 PM
Hmm.... lesse here.

D-12 made tons of money and went platinum.

Kid Rock is an international superstar, and has went multi-platinum multiple times.

Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise is from Detroit, what yall know about Robert Bradley?

The White Stripes are also from Detroit, and are international superstars, considered one of the best bands in the world, and pretty much run rock right now. 

Clearly my thread was talking about hip-hop albums.   

Yeah, I hijacked it.  There's a word you're familiar with. 
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on July 04, 2005, 09:41:01 PM
I think their sound is not for the mainstream...Look at Slum Village...they do have a fan base but was popular only becuz Kanye Was on their single

Still, Slum Village never went platinum.  Another example of a Detroit group that never quite blew up.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on July 05, 2005, 05:28:59 AM
-Eminem's producers the Bass Brothers have made a couple of attempts to showcase other Detroit talent.  That one cat, I can't remember his name, had that single called "That's The Way We Roll", I think he was even signed to Web/Interscope, but the album was never released.
Ally life
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: realz on July 05, 2005, 09:24:27 AM
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wtf????
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: ABN on July 05, 2005, 09:32:32 AM
Cheers struggled to go gold ??? according to www.riaa.com itīs certified platinum.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Minkaveli on July 05, 2005, 09:52:22 AM
J Dilla is from Detroit
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: wcsoldier on July 05, 2005, 10:33:58 AM
Cheers struggled to go gold ??? according to www.riaa.com itīs certified platinum.
Yep  Cheers went platinum around March 04
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Jome on July 05, 2005, 10:44:44 AM
If there was any justice in the Detroit world of record sales, Royce da 5'9'' would have gone platinum, and D12 would struggle to see gold..
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: ABN on July 05, 2005, 10:47:36 AM
If there was any justice in the Detroit world of record sales, Royce da 5'9'' would have gone platinum, and D12 would struggle to see gold..

there is no such thing as justice in the music industry when a guy like 50 Cent sells millions of records and KRS-ONE struggles to sell over 50k.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on July 05, 2005, 02:02:53 PM
Cheers struggled to go gold ??? according to www.riaa.com itīs certified platinum.

Alot of times that only means that the album has only shipped platinum, not actually sold platinum.  That album was slow out the box, it only did maybe 100,000 or so the first week and left the charts altogether a few weeks later.   It's possible that it went platinum, but I doubt it. 
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: BigBDrugStores on July 05, 2005, 02:32:21 PM
^nah, it certified platnium
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Diabolical on July 05, 2005, 02:45:06 PM
You could ask this question about anywhere that isnt big.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Low Key on July 05, 2005, 02:59:58 PM
The entire midwest struggles. They only seem to sell when they travel to the east or west. Twista's first album was the only album I have seen sell that didn't need any major artist featured on it or use a particular coast's style.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Diabolical on July 05, 2005, 03:10:27 PM
What about Nelly i was never sure if he was South or Mid West?
Im sure he sometimes says Mid West in songs.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Low Key on July 05, 2005, 03:38:58 PM
What about Nelly i was never sure if he was South or Mid West?
Im sure he sometimes says Mid West in songs.

Yeah, he has a song called Midwest Swing, but he is more influenced by the south. But Tech N9ne is from Missouri too and I consider him midwest. It's more about the music they make. Bone is from Cleveland which is like 5 hours from New York, and they sound west coast.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on July 05, 2005, 04:47:02 PM
If there was any justice in the Detroit world of record sales, Royce da 5'9'' would have gone platinum, and D12 would struggle to see gold..


back in the day alot of your posts i could vibe with, these days alot of your posts are weak in opinion, but i 1000% agree with ya on this! 8)

peace homie!
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Jome on July 05, 2005, 08:14:14 PM
back in the day alot of your posts i could vibe with, these days alot of your posts are weak in opinion, but i 1000% agree with ya on this! 8)

Or it could be that I don't post as much now, and when I do, I randomly happen to discredit Snoop's newer music..  8)
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on July 05, 2005, 11:56:29 PM
back in the day alot of your posts i could vibe with, these days alot of your posts are weak in opinion, but i 1000% agree with ya on this! 8)

Or it could be that I don't post as much now, and when I do, I randomly happen to discredit Snoop's newer music.. 8)


yeah thats a good thing tho snoop's new music is wank

Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: wcsoldier on July 06, 2005, 02:14:16 AM
Cheers struggled to go gold ??? according to www.riaa.com itīs certified platinum.

Alot of times that only means that the album has only shipped platinum, not actually sold platinum.  That album was slow out the box, it only did maybe 100,000 or so the first week and left the charts altogether a few weeks later.   It's possible that it went platinum, but I doubt it. 
Cheers did 250 000 first week, not bad coz remember there were big releases the same day
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Don Jacob on July 06, 2005, 03:13:07 AM
Hmm.... lesse here.

D-12 made tons of money and went platinum.

Kid Rock is an international superstar, and has went multi-platinum multiple times.

Robert Bradley's Blackwater Surprise is from Detroit, what yall know about Robert Bradley?

The White Stripes are also from Detroit, and are international superstars, considered one of the best bands in the world, and pretty much run rock right now. 

Clearly my thread was talking about hip-hop albums.   



they don't call it "Detroit ROCK City" for no reason
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Dargine on July 06, 2005, 05:40:40 AM
There are a lot of rappers from Detroit who have released really good albums, IMO King Gordy's album is close to being a classic, or maybe it's even a classic, and his group the Fat Killahz have released a album that was the shit, then you got 2 Bizarre albums that are great, and one Promatic album, they're working on the second album now, Dogmatic had a few great albums, and Obie's album is platinum, Paradime's last album was great, and that Raw Collection album was great as well, and there are at least 10 albums coming out in 2005/2006 that might be great, from the likes of Marv Won, Shim-E Bango, Eminem, Obie Trice, Swift, Big Dame, Kuniva, Kon Artis, Da Brigade, Proof, Dogmatic, Promatic, Trick Trick, King Gordy, T Baby, P.H.E.A.R, Young Who?, Mu, Purple Gang, Raw Collection and probally the Runyon Ave. Soldiers.
Title: Re: Detroit Thread- Why Nobody From Detroit Has Blown Up Besides Eminem?
Post by: Trauma-san on July 06, 2005, 06:52:57 AM
Oh, BTW, I forgot about the greatest label of all time, the whole of Motown rose out of Detroit.