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Title: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Acgrundy on July 06, 2005, 11:27:57 PM
Crooked I signing to deathrow.  dude is one of the most talented rappers ever, unfortunately over half his career has been wasted and he doesn't even have a single solo album out.  very bad move on his part imo.  on the other hand, he could have had one helluva learning experience, which is priceless imo.

Daz starting a website and forum and having that dipshit kronic write stuff for him.  If I have to explain then you are possibly dumber than daz.

kurupt going back to deathrow.  we all saw what that got him.

hittman not taking advantage of his situation after 2001 dropped.  maybe the biggest mistake in the history of westcoast music.  this guy was on half of 2001 the biggest rap album in years.  he definately should have made more out of it, easily could have gone multi platinum.

eminem introducing 50 cent to dre.  yep, the biggest mistake ever.  thanks for ruining rap. em, you got talent and skills. dre you got talent and skills.  I know you guys wanna be rich, but damn, couldn't you do it with someone else?
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: eKardz on July 06, 2005, 11:34:56 PM
whats the story behind hittman never being released???? he was so dope on 2001 \and that murder weapon demo is dope too
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Rud on July 06, 2005, 11:37:53 PM
Theres never been a 100% concrete answer but word was that Jimmy Iovine didnt beleive he was marketable, plus it appeared he did little to further his own career, even though mixtapes weren't as prevelent as they are now on the west, he appeared to do very little work outside of internal aftermath work on his album...which judging by what leaked wasnt a whole lot...dope talent though, still gutted he never dropped and since has just dissapeered...:/
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Acgrundy on July 06, 2005, 11:41:01 PM
hey he coulda changed his style to be more 50 cent like to make jimmy happy.  props to him for not going the sellout route, but damn, what a mistake.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: eKardz on July 06, 2005, 11:41:37 PM
so hittman is off the face of the earth....

any word on joe beast?
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Acgrundy on July 06, 2005, 11:47:39 PM
who gives a fuck about joe beast.  hopefully he is off the face of the earth.  same with that other fool from the south that was supposed to be on aftermath.  come to think of it, I don't like anyone on aftermath except dre.  so fuck jimmy, he is the biggest mistake in music.


*can't wait for the replies from the "music experts"
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: eKardz on July 06, 2005, 11:50:20 PM
who gives a fuck about joe beast.  hopefully he is off the face of the earth.  same with that other fool from the south that was supposed to be on aftermath.  come to think of it, I don't like anyone on aftermath except dre.  so fuck jimmy, he is the biggest mistake in music.


*can't wait for the replies from the "music experts"

lol who gives a shit who you like or what you think.  i asked if anyone knows where he is.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Acgrundy on July 07, 2005, 12:09:21 AM
who gives a fuck what you asked.  I stated my opinion, and thats what counts.  stop with your fuckin dumbass questions already you are ruining the thread.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Low Key on July 07, 2005, 12:38:18 AM
I think Crooked I signing to Death Row actually got him more exposure than most people think. Of course the albums didn't sell, but the label is notorious. And it did put a stint in his career, but he can say he was signed to arguably one of the best rap labels ever. Now that he has left, throughout the court case he had with Suge, and even now, people are anticipating his next move. But with all that said, he should have waited 6 months and signed with Dre. He probably would have been on 2001.

As for Kurupt, he did what he had to do to support his family. No one else would sign him for $4 million just to do nothing and pretend to be VP. He was contractually unable to release an album, so there wasn't much he could do. As easy as it would be to say Suge made the move just to piss off Snoop, Daz, and everyone else who he used to work with, he gave Kurupt another chance.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on July 07, 2005, 12:52:34 AM
-Dre signing to Interscope
-Dre signing Eminem
fuck jimmy, he is the biggest mistake in music.
So true
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: The Watcher on July 07, 2005, 01:07:20 AM
dre signing eminem is the biggest mistake? gimme a break.. Dre was releasing that aftermath compilation before he signed em.. if anything Em actually brought Dre back, just as much as Dre helped Em's career

joe beast was garbage, hittman should've had game's spot

rakim signing to aftermath was a big mistake
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on July 07, 2005, 01:09:59 AM
^I dont like Em's music,plain & simple.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: wcsoldier on July 07, 2005, 01:16:32 AM
I think Crooked I signing to Death Row actually got him more exposure than most people think. Of course the albums didn't sell, but the label is notorious. And it did put a stint in his career, but he can say he was signed to arguably one of the best rap labels ever. Now that he has left, throughout the court case he had with Suge, and even now, people are anticipating his next move. But with all that said, he should have waited 6 months and signed with Dre. He probably would have been on 2001.

As for Kurupt, he did what he had to do to support his family. No one else would sign him for $4 million just to do nothing and pretend to be VP. He was contractually unable to release an album, so there wasn't much he could do. As easy as it would be to say Suge made the move just to piss off Snoop, Daz, and everyone else who he used to work with, he gave Kurupt another chance.
Totally agree with the 1st part. Dre told Crooked I he 'll work with him but Crook should wait one year. Result: Crook has waited for 5 years
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on July 07, 2005, 01:22:27 AM
Shyne hookin up with Bad Boy...
Andre gettin with that Eryka Badu chick, he was just gay after that...
Mack 10 signing with Cash Money...
Bubba Sparxx...
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: wcsoldier on July 07, 2005, 01:26:25 AM
Let Lil John released a LP . How can people calls this piece of shit rap  ???
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: WestCoasta on July 07, 2005, 02:48:31 AM
2Pac getting killed

if he were alive shit would be different
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: ComptonCycoGeah on July 07, 2005, 03:28:15 AM
Eazy E Gettin killed straight up

and some one not shootin the dude who made fuck compton
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: ComptonCycoGeah on July 07, 2005, 03:42:41 AM
u can bet he will be, i hate him so much dre is a prick jsut for backin him to his last track dre loves him fuckin disgracefull
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Capo Di Tutti I Capi on July 07, 2005, 03:59:08 AM
All the shit that made Death Row to what it is today..
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Gangstauu on July 07, 2005, 04:10:12 AM
TQ signing to cash money
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: CanadActive on July 07, 2005, 05:53:00 AM
There's alot of mistakes in the rap game espacilly on the West Coast.

Mack 10 to Cash Money is sure one of the stupidiest move ever.
Daz with So So Def could have been as stupid, but everything look fine (4 the moment).
All the latest Snoop feats, he better come back with that gangsta shit soon.
All the latest Dre moves except maybe for The Game who turn out to be not that bad.
213 who decide to not let produce Warren G on The Hard Way.
Snoop starting that Dogghouse record but didn't pay nobody, so now he's in beef with nearly everybody (Eastsidaz, Kokane, Bad Azz, etc..)
Soopafly for not having more albums.
Psycho Realm for not having more albums.

Then if Kokane goes with G-Unot it will be as stupid as allthose above.

Giving birth to Lil Jon
Only shoots 9 times on 50 cent (next time make sure he's dead please coz you have created a monster)
Plugged Will Smith's mic
The Ecko deal with G-Unit who turn out to be the worst clothing line ever made (including Parasuco for men)
Listening to Nelly's album


Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Mr. Humonculous on July 07, 2005, 06:03:31 AM
dre signing stat quo
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: 0000000 on July 07, 2005, 07:11:51 AM
Interscope not putting out Games Westside Story & Higher
Puttin 50 on Westside Story
213 album not being as dope as it could ve
Hittman dropping of the face of the earth
Stat Quo being signed
50 for releasing commerical hip pop
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Paul on July 07, 2005, 11:03:11 AM
snoop not gettin warren g 2 produce on 213 abum
kurupt leavin the dogg pound
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Okka on July 07, 2005, 11:49:40 AM
kurupt leavin the dogg pound

Kurupt didn't leave Dogg Pound, Snoop, Daz, Bad Azz etc..."X his bitch ass from the pound" (just like they said)

One of the biggest mistakes is:

Jimmy Iovine droppin Hittman from Aftermath...
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: BL7 on July 07, 2005, 11:57:52 AM
DJ Quik DJing for The Game. Very bad move.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Okka on July 07, 2005, 12:24:46 PM
DJ Quik DJing for The Game. Very bad move.

Why is it ? He's getting recognized more now...
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: BL7 on July 07, 2005, 12:34:24 PM
DJ Quik DJing for The Game. Very bad move.

Why is it ? He's getting recognized more now...

Recognized as Game's DJ. Not DJ Quik the rapper, or Quik the producer.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on July 07, 2005, 01:06:09 PM
the ball being dropped re: Knocturnal
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: WestCoasta on July 07, 2005, 02:25:12 PM
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Snoop starting that Dogghouse record but didn't pay nobody, so now he's in beef with nearly everybody (Eastsidaz, Kokane, Bad Azz, etc..)
man, he's not beefin it with Bad Azz  ::)
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: phil123 on July 07, 2005, 05:29:27 PM
damn theres a lot of mistakes i think ... these are just my opinion as i know some of you will argue some of these were good moves for the rappers financially..
-suge kicking that guy in las vegas and going to jail for it
-snoop leaving deathrow for no limit
-eminem ruining the legacy of tupac with that album
-i like what bl7 said about dj quik
-shyne on bad boy (he got what he de$erved, you wanted puffy, you got him)
-the  west coast putting all these damn southern rappers on there albums that sound the same and leave out there old school cali friends.
-outlawz being on lttg
theres a lot more and i agree with a lot of you guys about some of yours like the mack 10 cash money move
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Hittman2001 on July 07, 2005, 05:39:11 PM
oh and how about d12 turning down In Da Club beat.stupid
I'd rather hear 50 Cent rappin over that beat than some shitty gay boy band.

yeah same here. i meant theyre stupid for turning down such a hot beat

Also, Rakim supposedly passed on it.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Wicked977 on July 07, 2005, 06:09:56 PM
DJ Quik DJing for The Game. Very bad move.

Why is it ? He's getting recognized more now...

Recognized as Game's DJ. Not DJ Quik the rapper, or Quik the producer.

he said something bout that in a interview
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on July 08, 2005, 07:01:04 AM
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No one else would sign him for $4 million
did tha row/suge pay 4.000.000 ta sign (back) kurupt?????? :o
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Tha Psycho Hustla on July 08, 2005, 07:27:07 AM
-storm (female outlaw) leavin´tha game
-not releasing the full thug life album with 16 tracks on it.
-not releasin all tha 2pac tracks in OG form.
-not releasin´all tha death row albums like top dogg,sneed,j-flexx...
-not releasin´more material by sam sneed and paradise (and many more)
-2pac not makin songs wit all tha inmates on "all eyez on me"
-snoop for makin´shitty pop-south-club-albums.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Mr. RuthlessG on July 17, 2005, 04:15:34 PM
Tomica Wright for fucking up Ruthless and signing artists like Dru Down, Homicide, Baby S, Blunts LLA and King Tee and then dropping them.
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: J Bananas on July 17, 2005, 04:17:55 PM
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who gives a fuck what you asked.  I stated my opinion, and thats what counts.

haha aren't you 35 or some shit?
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 17, 2005, 04:21:46 PM
Why are stat quo and joe beast signed?
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: eKardz on July 17, 2005, 04:25:11 PM
Why are stat quo and joe beast signed?

where is joe beast signed sik
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 17, 2005, 04:26:58 PM
Why are stat quo and joe beast signed?

where is joe beast signed sik

So he's not? OK good  :)
Title: Re: Biggest mistakes made by rappers/labels/etc
Post by: Diggfinger on July 18, 2005, 06:09:21 AM
- Dre not officially endorsing the New Westcoast movement, he could've supported that.

- Kokane leaving Doggystyle

- Kurupt going Row

- Daz lying like a 5 year old