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Title: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: That_Cracka_J on June 22, 2002, 01:12:24 PM
I had to start this thread because of the other topic.  People gave props to 2Pac and that's cool, but I can't believe all those people didn't like, love  ;), his music.  I thought he was a very talented rapper and in my opinion, the greatest of all time.
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Post by: smartass on June 22, 2002, 01:17:44 PM
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the greatest of all time.
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Post by: Doggystylin on June 22, 2002, 01:23:23 PM
i agree, and it pisses me off cause just a few years back those same people were on 2pacs nuts like crazy and now they jumped off , cause nowdays its cool not to like 2pac, its like a trend, lol
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: smartass on June 22, 2002, 01:40:01 PM
they're on snoop's dick now. what a suprise.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: LAZY on June 22, 2002, 01:56:25 PM
2pacs also the greatest rapper 2 me 2 i use ta listen 2 him every day but now i dont as much 4 some reason i dont know why though but lately iv been listen 2 him more and more again
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: HBKid_Jr on June 22, 2002, 04:41:02 PM
pac is tha GOAT
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: G2ThaV on June 22, 2002, 04:55:40 PM

I have to say i got a lil pissed when I read some peeps opinions, but then I realised maybe pac's music is too serious for some peeps.

Some peeps dont like the real.

Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Sub-Z on June 22, 2002, 06:30:45 PM
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pac is tha GOAT

Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: M Dogg™ on June 22, 2002, 10:40:38 PM
The damn greatest rapper that ever graced the mic. He was very lyrical, listen to Makaveli, listen close and catch all the lyrical word play he did. He was spritual, listen to almost everything. He was emotional, listen to Me Against The World. Political, listen to 2Pacaylpse Now, and Strickly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z. and above all, he could battle rap and do a song about his Mom. People hating on 'Pac are basically I think youngens who didn't get to experence 'Pac when he was alive. The man alive was so much more powerful than dead, and that's saying much considering after he died his rep grew. Now a days, I think the 'Pac hating is because people ain't got time to listen to lyrics. Real hip-hop is dying, people on this board are the same. Oh well, an artist is not beats, but lyrics. 'Pac was the greatest at that. God Rest His Soul, and no reincarnation.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: bLaDe on June 22, 2002, 10:52:06 PM
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The damn greatest rapper that ever graced the mic. He was very lyrical, listen to Makaveli, listen close and catch all the lyrical word play he did. He was spritual, listen to almost everything. He was emotional, listen to Me Against The World. Political, listen to 2Pacaylpse Now, and Strickly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z. and above all, he could battle rap and do a song about his Mom. People hating on 'Pac are basically I think youngens who didn't get to experence 'Pac when he was alive. The man alive was so much more powerful than dead, and that's saying much considering after he died his rep grew. Now a days, I think the 'Pac hating is because people ain't got time to listen to lyrics. Real hip-hop is dying, people on this board are the same. Oh well, an artist is not beats, but lyrics. 'Pac was the greatest at that. God Rest His Soul, and no reincarnation.


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pac is tha GOAT


 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Lord Funk on June 22, 2002, 11:03:26 PM
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...just a few years back those same people were on 2pacs nuts like crazy and now they jumped off , cause nowdays its cool not to like 2pac, its like a trend, lol


Come on man, it's not as simple as that. You can't just categorise a group of people as dick-riders because their opinions have changed over the years.

Pac's is a unique situation simply because of the fact that he's passed on. I have to reiterate what I said on that other thread - if Pac were still alive today I have absolutley no doubt whatsoever that he would have shook Death Row and be making music as beautiful and relevant as Me Against The World or Makaveli. If this were so it wouldn't be a case of people being "on his nuts," - he would be respected because of his artistry.

BUT, what happened happened. And as I said, to some extent the releases since his death - with the exception of Makaveli, which was already ready to go - have collected songs that Pac had decided NOT to give to his fans and attempted to remix them in a way that puts them totally out of context with the man's original vision. All that can do is weaken the legacy left by the albums released while he was here.

Imagine if no posthumous music had been released. I think if we were just left with 2Pacalypse Now through to Makaveli, you wouldn't have so many people saying they had 'grown out' of Pac. But when bullshit like Until The End of Time is hashed together and put out, can you really blame people for forgetting some of the man's legacy?

Sorry for going on, but it's just my opinion at the end of the day. Pac made a lot of timeless music, and MATW will forever be not just a classic, but a masterpiece. So may his soul rest in peace, but if they never release the next double disc, it really won't bother me. I'll just put on MATW or Strictly... and remember the man the way I think he'd probably want. Peace.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: ImmortalOne on June 22, 2002, 11:20:58 PM
Personally, if you completely hate Pac's music, you must be one shallow motherfucker. Go to the doctor and make sure your heart is still pumping blood through your body.

RIP Pac, the G.O.A.T.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: caTASHtrophe on June 22, 2002, 11:41:37 PM
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Personally, if you completely hate Pac's music, you must be one shallow motherfucker. Go to the doctor and make sure your heart is still pumping blood through your body.

RIP Pac, the G.O.A.T.


HAHAH

Anyway yeh, im not a 2pac fan and never had been...

BUT Makaveli is a STUNNING album.( and MATW) BUT AEOM suxx..

:)
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Post by: ImmortalOne on June 22, 2002, 11:49:58 PM
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HAHAH

Anyway yeh, im not a 2pac fan and never had been...

BUT Makaveli is a STUNNING album.( and MATW) BUT AEOM suxx..

:)


Im really, really tired of cats fronting on AEOM. AEOM is a classic, and is probably the most complete rap album ever made. Its safe to say, this album is the blueprint for the entire rap industry, and is the album EVERYONE wants to make. Nobody found a perfect balance between commerical and underground hip hop like Pac did on this album. He made an album that appealed to ALL types of hip hop fans, and he did so without losing hip hop respect. And its by far the best double cd ever, no other double cd is even close to this one. Seriously, im gonna make a thread reviewing this album, and breaking down every reason why its one of the greatest rap albums ever.

I love MATW and Makaveli [both are classic], but AEOM will always be hailed as Pac's masterpiece [even though I consider ALL 3 albums to be masterpieces, and the greatest consecutive trio of albums ever released].
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Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on June 23, 2002, 01:14:35 AM
Always have been and always will be a 2Pac fan. Like I said in the other thread his music has something for EVERY occasion, I love other artists too but why stray if you have everything in one place, his music was so much more than just music, it's like a soundtrack to life. I'm the type of listener that looks for meaning in music and 'Pac's was full of meaning, he spoke the truth, within one song he could make a party track and still include an important message, "How Do You Want It" for example, your average rapper cannot do that. 'Pac is the G.O.A.T to me, and i'm not being a dickrider I just believe in him and his music.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 23, 2002, 01:59:45 AM
he was too egotistical, plus peeps seam to take what he said, as if he was a fuckin uni schollar...half of ya'll are probz more educated then he was....wtf?
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on June 23, 2002, 04:11:18 AM
One of the main reasons I consider Pac to be the GOAT is because he was always real, and showed his true feelings on issues and life in general in his songs. He addressed issues which other rappers wouldn't ever touch, and what other hardcore rapper could do a song about their mum and get away with it? Because of this I consider MATW and Makaveli to be his best albums, and although I still like AEOM I don't think it has the same effect as the other two because it isn't as deep and therefore I don't really consider it as a classic. I am actually starting to think that I prefer Thug Life to AEOM at the moment, although if you are having a party you can always stick on AEOM, cause you to never go wrong with Pac in party mode.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on June 23, 2002, 06:24:43 AM
I'M A PAC DICKRIDER! Well I used to be but now I'm just a HUGE FAN!
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: ImmortalOne on June 23, 2002, 10:53:04 AM
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he was too egotistical, plus peeps seam to take what he said, as if he was a fuckin uni schollar...half of ya'll are probz more educated then he was....wtf?


This guy has some of the most absurd posts ive ever read.

Egotistical?? How was Pac egotistical, elaborate for me.....

And if Pac wasnt educated at all, then how come he went to the Baltimore school of Arts and was one of the best students at the school? He was probably twice as aware about the social and political situations going on around him than most people up in Congress. Pac knew there needs to be classes on racism, police brutality, Apartheid, or world hunger. etc etc, but yet there arent. Pac read alot of books, and not only incorporated what he read, but he ATTACKED it and broke it down, which is probably a big reason why his music was so brilliant to begin with.
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Post by: HBKid_Jr on June 23, 2002, 10:56:42 AM
pac was an extremely intelligent man like hellrazor said.  His mom used 2 punish him an make him read tha paper front to back.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 23, 2002, 11:40:20 AM
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He was probably twice as aware about the social and political situations going on around him than most people up in Congress. Pac knew there needs to be classes on racism, police brutality, Apartheid, or world hunger. etc etc



STFU if u gonna make those comments....pac was jus another rapper....he made no difference dead or alive...only to his fans....he was no saviour...and deffinatly wasn't the most important artist in rap...
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: ImmortalOne on June 23, 2002, 11:44:37 AM
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STFU if u gonna make those comments....pac was jus another rapper....he made no difference dead or alive...only to his fans....he was no saviour...and deffinatly wasn't the most important artist in rap...


No, im not gonna shut up, cuz Im gonna continue to take your ass to school with all those rediculous comments you make. So far, ive been able to back up what I say with hard factual evidence. You keep rambling on and on about how Pac aint all that, but you cant back it up with logical objectives or facts. All you can do is say "Pac sucks", "Pac made no difference", yada yada yada. You're the one who needs to shut the fuck up and give it a rest, cuz ill take you to school on this matter until you can actually post something halfway intelligent. Herb.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on June 23, 2002, 11:54:16 AM
It's fucked up to call anybody not being a Pac fan a hater plus it ain't no fuckin "trend".
There're still uncountable fans and dickriders(I ain't sayin all fans are).
I din't jump off cause I never was a fan.
I like some of his music but it ain't the best in my opinion.
Let everybody have his own opinion.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 23, 2002, 11:56:54 AM
shut up talkin bout takin me to school....i ain't gonna listen to you for shit! so there's no point trying....

 quit makin urself feel good by sayin how good pac was....it's all opinionated.......try and preach pac to any die hard biggy fans and they wont have any of it...jus like me (part from the fact i ain't a biggy fan)

    Give me my Ja rule shit any day of the week


(n' yes that was a joke, for u dumb peeps that don't know sarcasm)
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: ImmortalOne on June 23, 2002, 12:03:43 PM
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It's fucked up to call anybody not being a Pac fan a hater plus it ain't no fuckin "trend".
There're still uncountable fans and dickriders(I ain't sayin all fans are).
I din't jump off cause I never was a fan.
I like some of his music but it ain't the best in my opinion.
Let everybody have his own opinion.


I can live with that, even if I dont agree.
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 23, 2002, 12:04:47 PM
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I can live with that, even if I dont agree.


live with it then!!!!
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: AxleF on June 23, 2002, 04:35:02 PM
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he was too egotistical, plus peeps seam to take what he said, as if he was a fuckin uni schollar...half of ya'll are probz more educated then he was....wtf?


You have GOTZ TO BE KIDDING!!!!!  He was the one rapper that not only talked about his life.. but he lived it.  No matter if he was Tupac Shakur the son of a Black Panter, or 2Pac the rapper.  He lived it.. The educated 2Pac.. he lived it.. He read more books then most read in a lifetyme.. and your questioning his intellegence... That's real.. I mean.. real shallow.  He earned his life.. and he earned the right to R.I.P without all the hate..

2Pac was by far, the GREATEST RAPPER to ever touch the MIC.  Not because he was simply a great rapper.. but because the words that he rapped.. happened to be exactly the life that he was currently living.  He lived through his words.. They say that Pac never had a court case until he picked up the MIC.  That tells you that he lived through his lyrics.. and that he rep'd what ever he rep'd at any perticular time (in his life) TO THE FUCKIN FULLEST!!!!!!  THATS WHY HES GREAT!!!!  HE HAD THE HEART TO, NOT ONLY TALK ABOUT IT.. BUT TO BE ABOUT IT!

Pac was the realest MC ever because, not only did his music captivate the audiance.. but his LIFE did in a way that no other rapper had done at the time.  Still aint been done..!!!!  He STUNNED the media.  His audiance.. stunned.. critics.. STUNNED.. MTV / Radio.. fuckin STUNNED!!!!!

He's the only rapper that I know that's done just that.. to that degree TO THIS DAY!

Axle
Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: That_Cracka_J on June 24, 2002, 03:46:50 PM
Well said Axle
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Post by: Sikotic™ on June 24, 2002, 06:32:12 PM
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You have GOTZ TO BE KIDDING!!!!!  He was the one rapper that not only talked about his life.. but he lived it.  No matter if he was Tupac Shakur the son of a Black Panter, or 2Pac the rapper.  He lived it.. The educated 2Pac.. he lived it.. He read more books then most read in a lifetyme.. and your questioning his intellegence... That's real.. I mean.. real shallow.  He earned his life.. and he earned the right to R.I.P without all the hate..

2Pac was by far, the GREATEST RAPPER to ever touch the MIC.  Not because he was simply a great rapper.. but because the words that he rapped.. happened to be exactly the life that he was currently living.  He lived through his words.. They say that Pac never had a court case until he picked up the MIC.  That tells you that he lived through his lyrics.. and that he rep'd what ever he rep'd at any perticular time (in his life) TO THE FUCKIN FULLEST!!!!!!  THATS WHY HES GREAT!!!!  HE HAD THE HEART TO, NOT ONLY TALK ABOUT IT.. BUT TO BE ABOUT IT!

Pac was the realest MC ever because, not only did his music captivate the audiance.. but his LIFE did in a way that no other rapper had done at the time.  Still aint been done..!!!!  He STUNNED the media.  His audiance.. stunned.. critics.. STUNNED.. MTV / Radio.. fuckin STUNNED!!!!!

He's the only rapper that I know that's done just that.. to that degree TO THIS DAY!

Axle

Title: Re: ANYONE  IN  HERE  A  2PAC  FAN???
Post by: HBKid_Jr on June 24, 2002, 06:34:52 PM
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Well said Axle