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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Diggfinger on July 21, 2005, 11:27:01 AM
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I was thinking about how Daz is often being creditet for being a super producer and everything, but when you think about it he might not be quite the super producer you probally thought (I know I did for many years). OK:
Dogg Food: great production, no doubt about it. But did you notice how it was entirely mixed by Dr. Dre?
Nate Dogg: One More Day (my favourtie Nate track outside his albums) produced by Daz, *mixed by Dr. Dre*
Snoop Dogg: Tha Doggfather, coo beat *mixed by DJ Pooh*
Kurupt & Daz - On the Grind, co-produced by E3
Ok this is not taking anything away from Daz, Retaliation Revenge & Get Back plus Raw had some nice production on it, but you still have to admit its not quite on the level the abovementioned. This Is The Life I Lead had the coolest Daz track on it I heard on awhile, Keep It Gangsta, which was co-produced by Mike Dean...
So what im saying is maybe Daz should stop babling about how Dre "stole" his beats, when he really made them tight as fuck! The beats Daz did on The Chronic was probally just skeletons, and Dre put the meat on em so to speak....
so what do you think.....
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Daz has been called a Super Producer?
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Daz is a good producer, but super producer is pushing it. His best beats were always mixed by the real super producers.
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I think back when he did the beats on Above The Rim and Murder Was The Case, he was headed in that direction. Dogg Food was a step down from that imo.
He just keeps getting progressively worse.
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Retaliation, Revenge and Get Back was the last time i actually can say i was checking for a Daz beat. He's fallen off considerably, though i think he has a nice chemistry with Mike Dean who i've always felt was underrated.
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didnt we have a conversation bout this already?
Daz is a cool producer...not Super
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Still think he's an above average producer.
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Daz has been called a Super Producer?
That's what I'm saying. Daz is the exact opposite of Dr. Dre. Dre takes his time making beats. Daz pumps out wack shit like there's no tomorrow. But having said that Dr. Dre is still overrated as hell.
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Ambitionz As A Ridah
2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
I Ain't Mad At Cha
Tha Streetz Is A Mutha
Gangsta Walk (Dead Man Walking)
Those are track that were made by a "Super Producer", and that producer is That Nigga Daz.
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To call Daz a 'super producer' is ludicrous.
To give him his credit he's made some tight tracks. The issue is that I don't believe he is 100% responsible for any of them.
In the Death Row days he was supported by Dre first, then Soopafly and allegedly Quik on AEOM. Then Mike Dean helped him right across Dillinger & Young Gotti...
Until I see video footage of Daz creating a Dogg Food-quality beat from scratch, on his own, I laugh in the face of anyone who calls the guy a 'super producer'.
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super producer is a gay word to use, you guys are losers
Ambitionz As A Ridah
2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
I Ain't Mad At Cha
Tha Streetz Is A Mutha
Gangsta Walk (Dead Man Walking)
Those are track that were made by Dat Nigga Daz
and what proof do you have that says he got help from Quik?
you losers are so quick to throw some bullshit out there
and isn't it funny that Daz was one of 2Pac's favorite producers to work with
most people on this forum are so stupid
this fool has never sold out, never had publicity, was taught by Dr. Dre himself to produce
has limited promotion, one the most selling independent artists, has helped Kurupt shine on so many tracks
maybe he hasn't made top-notch shit lately, but his track-record speaks for itself
so many producers have help on tracks, you wouldn't want Dr. Dre to mix your track and make it better?
gee, I wonder if he's the first to have help on a track
nobody but some fuckin lames called him a "Super Producer"
pretty much, he's a West Coast legendary producer who made beats for icons like Snoop Dogg and 2Pac
let's stop hating and agree he's a talented producer
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if they made a greatest producers ever list in rap, he'd be on the list somewhere
stop hatinggggggggggggggg 8)
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Daz is one of the most over rated producers in rap history! I saw on MTV/BET or read an interview where he said that he really produced all of Chronic and Doggystyle. What a freakin joke. Dre has continued to put out hits where ever he goes and Daz only produced that mediocre hit for Cameron, Baby, or whatever the name of that song was. Dre did mix the Doggfood Cd. Look how all songs that mixed by Dre sound - look at the mixing for other artists he did on 50 cent and games albums. They all have that Dre touch added in. Kanye West said in that Billboard articled that he wanted Dre to mix his entire next album! Anyone who says Dre is over rated is smoking that rock! Dre has made classic hits at Ruthless, Death Row and Aftermath. Many call hip raps greatest producer and he is! U betta recognize!
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His work from '94-'96 was worthy of super-producer status. I don't know how much Dre, Soopafly, etc. helped him cause I wasn't there but those beats are timeless and in the credits it says produced by Dat Nigga Daz.
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no but hes a damn good one
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I saw on MTV/BET or read an interview where he said that he really produced all of Chronic and Doggystyle
first of all you didn't see him do any interview on MTV or BET
and in an interview I saw on the internet, he said he helped do some of those tracks
icebergslimIII, get your shit together before you write it, you faggot
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His work from '94-'96 was worthy of super-producer status. I don't know how much Dre, Soopafly, etc. helped him cause I wasn't there but those beats are timeless and in the credits it says produced by Dat Nigga Daz.
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I saw on MTV/BET or read an interview where he said that he really produced all of Chronic and Doggystyle
first of all you didn't see him do any interview on MTV or BET
and in an interview I saw on the internet, he said he helped do some of those tracks
icebergslimIII, get your shit together before you write it, you faggot
Nigga, you don't live with me and you don't know what show I saw or where I read that. He said that he produced all of that shit. If u look up Daz on urbandictionary.com, there is a definition that says he is a crackhead and some allude to that on this site. So, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he indeed say that at one point in time. Nigga, get off Daz's dick! The way you on his dick must really hurt your knees!
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When your last REAL hit was about 9 years ago, you're NOT a Super Producer.
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His work from '94-'96 was worthy of super-producer status. I don't know how much Dre, Soopafly, etc. helped him cause I wasn't there but those beats are timeless and in the credits it says produced by Dat Nigga Daz.
Good point.
His beats during that area could rival any other producer that was on top during that area, such as Organized Noise, No Joe, The RZA, DJ Premier, Pete Rock, Ant Banks, DJ Pooh, and of course Dr. Dre and DJ Quik.
Daz did have a lot of help, since many of his tracks were mixed by Dre, Quik, even DJ Premier (check the album credits on Lady of Rage's album).
Daz had 2 good years, since then he's been hit or miss. Compare that to Dr. Dre, DJ Quik, DJ Premier, the RZA, Timbaland, Battlecat, there's no way you can put Daz in that category.
Daz was a great producer 9 years ago. Calling him a superproducer now is silly.
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"dre dosent make beats by himself
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Daz still shits on ya favorite producer
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Dre dosent make beats by himself
Daz still shits on ya favorite producer
people are so dumb it's a joke
quick to criticize one who gets co-production yet their favorite does the same thing
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^wtf? A good Daz beat owns a Dre beat. IMO
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I saw on MTV/BET or read an interview where he said that he really produced all of Chronic and Doggystyle
first of all you didn't see him do any interview on MTV or BET
and in an interview I saw on the internet, he said he helped do some of those tracks
icebergslimIII, get your shit together before you write it, you faggot
Nigga, you don't live with me and you don't know what show I saw or where I read that. He said that he produced all of that shit. If u look up Daz on urbandictionary.com, there is a definition that says he is a crackhead and some allude to that on this site. So, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he indeed say that at one point in time. Nigga, get off Daz's dick! The way you on his dick must really hurt your knees!
you're an idiot man, why would he say he did the ENTIRE Chronic and Doggystyle
he'd be crucified if he said he did EVERYTHING like you said he did
I actually do live with you, don't forget, just get my dick out your mouth
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a super producer is someone like 'prince' he plays like 8 million instuments ffs...
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hahaha true, if you were to ask some oroducers they'd say that fool is the shit
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daz is a good producer ..but his best shit was mixed or co-produced by soopafly, quik, dre, mike dean etc.
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^wtf? A good Daz beat owns a Dre beat. IMO
The fuck are you talking bout...Daz couldnt do nuthin near Dre (and Dre aint even in my top 5 of fav producers)
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daz produces dope ass beats. and he dont need years for it.
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I'm going to go by what I know... but I remember reading an interview with Bad Azz about the whole Chronic situation... Bad Azz seemed pretty knowledgeable of what was going on. He said that Daz and Warren G both produced multiple tracks on the Chronic, but were never given any sort of production credits on it because Dre was trying to build up even more hype behind his name since he recently went solo.
As far as Daz... it's a mixed bag...
If you look at a record such as Dogg Food, that's a hell of a record... classic... no doubt. You could argue that the shit was mixed by Dre but the key production credits go to Daz... forget the mixing shit.
To add to that, look at the production credits in All Eyez On Me where Daz did some of his best shit... and coming from Pac himself... he always thought Daz was one of the best beat makers out there.
Don't forget to check out This Life I Lead which is probably Daz's best solo where the production is just... on point all the way through with some of the best beats Daz has ever made, this time with Mike Dean (not Dr. Dre).
Also, the handful of tracks Daz produced on Kurupt's "Streetz Iz A Mutha" which was fire.
Daz basically started producing his own shit in 1994 when the Above the Rim soundtrack dropped, then continued on from there.
1994-2002 Daz was one of the best producers in rap in my eyes (except RAW, which I thought Daz slipped up on)
2003-Current Daz = mediocre trash though
The guy has been belting out mixtape songs every two seconds, all with mediocre beats... had an entire record come out and didn't bother producing one track but is gonna brag about all the beats he did in the past on that same record (DPGC You Know What I'm Throwin' Up prod. almost entirely by Soopafly) and then when he did produce his own record (Dogg Pound Gangsta LP) it was filled up with mediocre sounding street joints and an over abundance of R&B tracks and hip-hop ballad type shit. The "Gangsta Crunk" album has a couple good beats on it... although it don't sound south at all... sounds more like tracks that weren't good enough to be put on "This Life I Lead" so he decided to re-name it and pass it off as a new album.
No doubt Daz has potential... but the last 2 plus years, he hasn't really done anything noteworthy. And so you know, if it's about hit records... you can't compare Dre with his own empire featuring Eminem and 50 Cent to Daz who manufactures and ships his own copies and really doesn't throw any money into promotion. Daz is independent and it's not even a case of being independent on a Koch Records or TVT Records... independent to the point that he has no contract really with anyone else, so every little detail is left up to his camp. Sure, you're never going to put out a hit that way, but that don't mean your beats are wack.
Some of the best shit in rap is never a hit... so to say Dre is puttin out hits and Daz isn't (while true) is no reflection of the actual music
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no, Daz is not a super producer. he used to make some dope shit 10 years ago but i havenīt heard a Daz' beat in years that have made me say "damn this shit is tight". and i never get that same vibe from a Daz beat that i get from a Dre,Timbo,Premier or even a Kanye beat.
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super producer is a gay word to use, you guys are losers
Ambitionz As A Ridah
2 Of Amerikaz Most Wanted
I Ain't Mad At Cha
Tha Streetz Is A Mutha
Gangsta Walk (Dead Man Walking)
Those are track that were made by Dat Nigga Daz
and what proof do you have that says he got help from Quik?
you losers are so quick to throw some bullshit out there
and isn't it funny that Daz was one of 2Pac's favorite producers to work with
most people on this forum are so stupid
this fool has never sold out, never had publicity, was taught by Dr. Dre himself to produce
has limited promotion, one the most selling independent artists, has helped Kurupt shine on so many tracks
maybe he hasn't made top-notch shit lately, but his track-record speaks for itself
so many producers have help on tracks, you wouldn't want Dr. Dre to mix your track and make it better?
gee, I wonder if he's the first to have help on a track
nobody but some fuckin lames called him a "Super Producer"
pretty much, he's a West Coast legendary producer who made beats for icons like Snoop Dogg and 2Pac
let's stop hating and agree he's a talented producer
skandalous - my fav. AEOM track is also produced by daz, BUT believe me, i studied quik, and quik definately was SERIOUSLY invloved in this track! or mixed it
im absolutely sure about it
anyone else?
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I'v always liked what Daz does and yes maybe on some level I can think of him as a super producer, but I think it's safer to say hes good
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Skandalous - my fav. AEOM track is also produced by Daz
BUT believe me, i studied Quik, and Quik definately was SERIOUSLY invloved in this track! or mixed it
im absolutely sure about it
still man, you don't know, that's just how it is
if his name aint on the credits, then as far as I'm concerned he didn't have nothin to do with it
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yea, right
but im sure daz is no super producer..
he didnt put out one banging beat in the last few years, and thats what counts when talking about super producers
i could rather call myself a super producer instead of daz... without even releasing my shit, but its doper then his shit - and thats for sure
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so to say Dre is puttin out hits and Daz isn't (while true) is no reflection of the actual music
Nobody ever said that man, am just saying Daz has dissapointet me alot for years now...
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1994-2002 Daz was one of the best producers in rap in my eyes (except RAW, which I thought Daz slipped up on)
fuck off raw is 1 of the wests best produced albums imo
daz may never have been a super producer but no1 is in rap
people sayin they would like 2 c daz produce a dogg food song from scratch dre used so many samples producin the chronic no1 said shit. also that daz is overrated? when has he been rated every1 hates on him 4 wot. he is underrated
daz>>>>dre, quik, mike dean, dj premier
he doesnt need any of them
he produced and mixed the dpglp and it turned out really nice
no offence 2 dre quik etc they still legends in the game
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Daz was big with his 2Pac productions and his so-claimed Chronic/Doggystyle productions.
His last productions were quite listenable, but he didn't open a new revolution into hip-hop or sumthin', just tight beats but nuthin' special.
So, super producer? No mothafucking way, he's quite good in what he's doing but he isn't a renovator or some shit.
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ok..
none of you seem to have the concept of what a producer is.
a producer is not the beat maker. He's the guy that put the music together with the vocals. The mixer and the engineer are the ones that make it sound smooth and have a quality feel for it.
So.. I think Daz is an excellent beat maker maybe an super beat maker, but i don't think he is a super producer. I have not been disappointed with any of his beats. Someone said that Daz had claimed to do most of the beats for Doggystyle and The Chronic. That could be possible considering Tha Doc did the lyrics for it. Snoop even admitted Daz did most of the beats for Doggystyle in his verse about daz in 'tha vapors'
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For all saying fell of listen to Dpg lp. All produce by him except a couple tracks
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ok..
none of you seem to have the concept of what a producer is.
a producer is not the beat maker. He's the guy that put the music together with the vocals. The mixer and the engineer are the ones that make it sound smooth and have a quality feel for it.
^^^ exactly, people are just haters
they are acting like whoever mixed it made the fuckin thing
just cuz Daz made a beat and Dre mixed it, they think Dre is the only reason the song is good
Daz made the fuckin beats!!!! the mixer just tweaks it, you people are morons
just cuz Dre, just cuz Dre..... ::) they seem to be gettin it the other way around
they talkin like Dre made the beat, Daz mixed it, and Daz sayin he named it his own
other way around u fuckers
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yes,,,, daz produce 10song on 2pac All Eyez On Me