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Title: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: VLADA on June 14, 2002, 10:06:13 PM
Yo for some reason, i have never really liked rappers who use big ass metaphors and scientific words. You know the ones that drop some shit like

nation, of the speculation lyrical execution, mass distribution of my technique blahblahblah

I have always prefered just dudes who grab the mic drop a funky ass beat and start screaming BIIIIIIIIIITCH. I hate when i see some punk talking about REAL HIP HOP culture, and what a REAL MC is. I'm just like, fool i don't give a fuck. I've been a b-boy for  years now and i'm respect lyricist, but i hate when some of my friends start tryin to define hip hop and critisize simple vocabulary spitters.

What ya think, doesn't that piss you off?

Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 15, 2002, 12:57:26 AM
Perhaps it's because u don't understand what their saying, either stay/go back to school. or keep listenin to pop rap that raps about nothing but hoe's and money....it must be a good listen for peeps like urself....hey at least they use words an 8 year old can understand what?
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Hittman on June 15, 2002, 01:13:49 AM
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or keep listenin to pop rap that raps about nothing but hoe's and money


Its Not Only Pop Rap That Has Content Like Money & Hoes In Them. Alot Of Talented Artists Rap About That Sorta Shit, For Example Too $hort. Anyway, I Do Prefer A Lyricist Over A Fuck A Bitch Rapper, But If They Tight I Will Listen To Them. The Content Just Makes It More Appealing.  
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: P Nelson on June 15, 2002, 10:59:20 AM
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Yo for some reason, i have never really liked rappers who use big ass metaphors and scientific words. You know the ones that drop some shit like

nation, of the speculation lyrical execution, mass distribution of my technique blahblahblah

I have always prefered just dudes who grab the mic drop a funky ass beat and start screaming BIIIIIIIIIITCH. I hate when i see some punk talking about REAL HIP HOP culture, and what a REAL MC is. I'm just like, fool i don't give a fuck. I've been a b-boy for  years now and i'm respect lyricist, but i hate when some of my friends start tryin to define hip hop and critisize simple vocabulary spitters.

What ya think, doesn't that piss you off?



lol for real, the only spitters I feel are Ludacriss and Young Assasins
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Don Seer on June 15, 2002, 11:07:14 AM
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Perhaps it's because u don't understand what their saying, either stay/go back to school. or keep listenin to pop rap that raps about nothing but hoe's and money....it must be a good listen for peeps like urself....hey at least they use words an 8 year old can understand what?


EGO ALERT


i prefer a balance... a decent beat, and a decent flow.... complex lyrics dont mean shit.. i prefer a dope story or something over some lyrical gymnastics.

(obviously complex lyrics mean something themselves.. but if its purely showing off then i dont care for them)
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: ExZit on June 15, 2002, 11:22:30 AM
the "fuck a bitch" rap is tight when its be done with humour..

but its can also be funny when u try to be serious with "fuck-a-bicth" rap.. like in (fuck fuck fuck bitch make me rich by DAz  :D)

Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Sikotic™ on June 15, 2002, 11:29:23 AM
I hate bitch/hoe/pussy rappers cause they are so cliche and their shit gets played out way too quick.

Lyracist, like Ras Kass, etc., give me a reason to go back and listen to what they are saying over and over. Sometimes it will take me months just to figure out the full message of their lyrics so each time I pop in their CD it's somethin new for me.

Plus, they are much more deep than your average "I wanna bust a nut in her mouth" emcee. And that's what I want in my music, emotion.

I love all types of rappers but I prefer the type that got an actual message behind their words, not what they wanna do to some big booty girl.
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Don Seer on June 15, 2002, 11:32:23 AM
but who is better?

the rapper that uses big complicated words to get his message across? or one does the same thing but using words the proverbial 'man on the street' can understand and remember?

who is the better teacher?

Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: T-Dogg on June 15, 2002, 11:34:17 AM
In my opinion, it don't matter what the lyrics alone say (or don't say), it's the whole package. The beat, lyrics, flow, everything. Like Nuthin' But a G Thang is my favorite track ever, and the lyrics aren't basically sayin' shit. It's only Dre & Snoop boasting, smokin' weed, u know, a party track.  Another cut I like is Poison by Nas. Totally different from G Thang, The lyrics deal with real issues and the beat isn't nearly as hot, but still I got mad love for that track.
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: S.G.V. on June 15, 2002, 02:32:48 PM
i like a lyricist and i like a fuck a bitch rapper....now when i say lyricist i dont mean the moon and stars motherfuckers...or the people who are trying to teach us shit...i like people with good word play, metaphors and shit...a fuck a bitch rapper is always fun to listen to also....it depends on my mood...one minute i could be listening to c-bo the next im bumping aceyalone....though the content is basically the same about street shit....acey puts effort into his lyrics....c-bo doesnt really.....but fuck it as long as the music is good....thats all that matters
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: PLANT on June 15, 2002, 03:24:39 PM
whats up Vlada, homie hows it going?

I understand what you mean completely man, i mean, theres alot of rappers that seem like they try to hard to rap...i like those mc's that it all comes natural and they can just flow and tell a story, and make you, the listener, understand what they are saying...listen to a canibus cd, the words he uses are real good, but he dont tell you anything or create a picture in your head as to what he's talking about..
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: VLADA on June 15, 2002, 04:43:31 PM
Exactly man^

I think some of ya might have misunderstood me though. I was talking about rappers who you can;t listen to without picking up a dictionary. Like man i got all Big L's albums, and he got an awesome style.

But i much much much more prefer when a rapper paints a story through simple words. Something like Slick Rick or Too $hort.

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Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: bLaDe on June 15, 2002, 04:56:21 PM
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I hate bitch/hoe/pussy rappers cause they are so cliche and their shit gets played out way too quick.

Lyracist, like Ras Kass, etc., give me a reason to go back and listen to what they are saying over and over. Sometimes it will take me months just to figure out the full message of their lyrics so each time I pop in their CD it's somethin new for me.

Plus, they are much more deep than your average "I wanna bust a nut in her mouth" emcee. And that's what I want in my music, emotion.

I love all types of rappers but I prefer the type that got an actual message behind their words, not what they wanna do to some big booty girl.



 -{bLaDe}
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on June 15, 2002, 05:24:40 PM
I would rather listen to lyricist rappers like Ras Kass, Chino XL, Planet Asia etc. Their hip hop is way better. It actually got a good meaning and lyrics, rather than i fuck a hoe and smoke a blunt. They have a lot better message in their rap like what Dogg Jones said.
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: HBKid_Jr on June 15, 2002, 07:28:45 PM
i choose a lyracist any day.  That fuck a bitch stuff is alright when done occasionally or done real unique ( like girls, girls, girls).  But when how albums r based around tha same content of bitches,  money an cars.  Thats sad
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: The Watcher on June 15, 2002, 09:38:49 PM
lyricists are probably the better rappers IMO, but when you're at a party, you dont really wanna have to think about what some dude just said on a track, you just wanna enjoy it, that's where the 'fuck-a-bitch' rapper comes into the equation.
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Cliche on June 16, 2002, 02:25:02 AM
lyricists by far.  i miss the early 90s when you could toss on a jam by Slick Rick or Rakim and the party crowd would dig it...
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on June 16, 2002, 01:17:54 PM
I like a bit of both really, it depends what mood i'm in at that particular time to be honest. When i'm in a happy state of mind i'll prolly go more for the 'bitch' content type raps, basically party shit, but when i'm in a more serious mood where I want to hear something that is thought provoking i'll go for the richer lyricists, something with a darker edge or whatever. I think thats why I like 'Pac's material so much, he's in the middle, sometimes he would come with more complex rhymes like "Hail Mary" and sometimes he would just come with simplistic but great rhymes that get the message across clearly. I think rappers that are inbetween are the best, they're diverse and they suit all your listening needs.
Title: Re: LYRICIST vs AVERGE BITCH/HOE Rapper
Post by: Liquid-Dogg on June 16, 2002, 01:55:05 PM
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