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Title: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: TraceOneInfinite on August 05, 2005, 11:45:09 AM
I am purely talking about the Western concept of relationships, dating, etc.   Since becoming a Muslim, I've became accustomed to the Qu'ranic concept that "good men and women are for eachother and bad men and women are for eachother".

But I still reflect back on my old days coming up in jr. high and highschool.  I'm sure everyone is aware of the phenomenon of so-called "good girls" with so-called "bad boys", and often the question is asked, "Why do good girls like bad boys".   

So I'm going to put that question up to the forum, "Why do good girls like bad boys?"  (And ofcourse the same could be applied vice versa with good boys loving bad girls)  Let me give my answer here, and then ya'll can post your own opinions.

- My Reasoning:   Let's say you are trying to make a relationship work with a person, and going into it you have high expectations and you think that this person is a very good person.  What happens is that all people have shortcomings, and nobody knows the shortcomings of a person better than their boyfriend, girlfriend, wife or husband.   So when you see these shortcomings, you begin to idealize other people instead of your partner.----  Yet on the other hand, if the "good girl" goes after a boy she thinks is "bad" from the outset, then she is already expecting shortcomings and is putting the responsibility on herself to change that person, so when thinks go wrong with him she blames herself, and often ends up loving her partner 'unconditionally'.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Thirteen on August 05, 2005, 11:50:16 AM
I am purely talking about the Western concept of relationships, dating, etc.   Since becoming a Muslim, I've became accustomed to the Qu'ranic concept that "good men and women are for eachother and bad men and women are for eachother".

But I still reflect back on my old days coming up in jr. high and highschool.  I'm sure everyone is aware of the phenomenon of so-called "good girls" with so-called "bad boys", and often the question is asked, "Why do good girls like bad boys".   

So I'm going to put that question up to the forum, "Why do good girls like bad boys?"  And let me give my answer here, and then ya'll can post your own opinions.

- My Reasoning:   Let's say you are trying to make a relationship work with a person, and going into it you have high expectations and you think that this person is a very good person.  What happens is that all people have shortcomings, and nobody knows the shortcomings of a person better than their boyfriend, girlfriend, wife or husband.   So when you see these shortcomings, you begin to idealize other people instead of your partner.----  Yet on the other hand, if the "good girl" goes after a boy she thinks is "bad" from the outset, then she is already expecting shortcomings and is putting the responsibility on herself to change that person, so when thinks go wrong with him she blames herself.

it's probably just a woman's motherly instinct to try and help a lost cause...
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Don Rizzle on August 05, 2005, 11:50:36 AM
opposites attract
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Fuck You, Pay Me on August 05, 2005, 12:52:54 PM
opposites attract

You're just telling yourself that because if that were true you'd end up with one of the hottest girls in the world.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Compton Casanova on August 05, 2005, 01:21:43 PM
opposites attract
yeah. thats the basic fundamental of the laws of nature. ;D
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: J Bananas on August 05, 2005, 02:12:42 PM
Because good guys are pussies
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Suffice on August 05, 2005, 02:16:59 PM
lmfaooo, this thread has potential to be classic. Keep goin, y'all, keep going. Personally, "opposites attract" is bullshit, at least with me. I like girls with whom i have lots in common cuz then i have better chemistry with em. I don't like good girls who like "Bad Boys," i think it means they're weak and dont' have identity
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: [sepehr] on August 05, 2005, 03:42:38 PM
Co-sign with suffice, lol those girls who like bad-boys or whatever are like the type most of the time who have like no real personality and are just living like " Yah im a girl, looking fer a bad boyy lets partaY!" or some shit like that
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Don Jacob on August 05, 2005, 08:07:35 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: hope glimmers on August 06, 2005, 04:58:17 AM
as a good girl, i say my reason is because they are so much more fun..... they always have something going on, while with a good guy, they do they same things, and repition sucks.  bad boys always have that element of being scared and spontanaity about them.  they dont care what other people think, they're strong, and good guys are just too sensitive, and clingy, and when guys are clingy its pathetic and a HUGE turnoff.  but bad boys, they are just... fun, and  exciting.   at least i think so.   id otn want to go and do stuff my parents actually approve of.   ::)
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: [sepehr] on August 06, 2005, 03:23:04 PM
^ No offense...but you don't seem over 18
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: WestCoasta on August 06, 2005, 04:57:13 PM
it's cuz bitches like to get smacked around by bad guys during sex

girls are always actin like they don't suck dick but when ya do em they always want their hair pulled and get strangled by a bad boy  8)
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Diabolical on August 07, 2005, 03:09:08 PM
^haha

I agree with Suffice
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: white Boy on August 07, 2005, 03:28:43 PM
oposites do atract, take a good girl, who knows nothing of any kind of mischief or wrong doings, so so bad kid whos all about that, would be atractive to her, cuase its so different, and that is appealing.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: J Bananas on August 07, 2005, 03:35:46 PM
girls like me because I drive a motorcycle and call their mom by their first name.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 07, 2005, 04:26:43 PM
girls like me because I drive a motorcycle and call their mom by their first name.

lol WTF

Suffice is on point though, most girls I've tried to get with and blew me off because I was "too nice" were usually the most boring girls. They don't participate in a conversation, they just wait for you to carry the entire conversation and got short attention spans like kids. They're pretty slow in the head and insecure for the most part too.

That's why I shoot for girls with personality and character. Because they're not insecure and they're usually more intellegent. It saves you from a lot of drama.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Shallow on August 07, 2005, 07:02:28 PM
I've never been to the eastern world and have never talked to the girls that are allowed to talk, so who's to say those girls don't like bad boys too? Anyone here a girl from the eastern world?
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Low Key on August 07, 2005, 08:17:25 PM
I've never ben to the eastern world and have never talked to the girls that are allowed to talk, so who's to say those girls dfon't like bad boys too? Anyone here a girl from the eastern world?

I have never been to the eastern world, but it's pretty common that a girl looking to get married would get traded for livestock or food. I'm not sure if it still goes on today, but it wouldn't have been too long ago that they quit doing it.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: herpes on August 07, 2005, 09:04:17 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Mr. O on August 07, 2005, 09:30:06 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

No wonder I can't communicate with some girls, they just kids. haha..jk
But for real, they are insecure...
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: herpes on August 07, 2005, 09:42:21 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

No wonder I can't communicate with some girls, they just kids. haha..jk
But for real, they are insecure...
there insecure to the day they die
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 07, 2005, 10:32:48 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Suffice on August 08, 2005, 02:16:36 AM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.

we should start a movement like the "minists" or some shit, to debunk some of the myths of feminism.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Suffice on August 08, 2005, 02:18:38 AM
I think there's a lot of sense it what "Fear and loathing" said, but I can't agree just yet. I haven't been in a serious relationship, so i don't really know if that's true. I guess i'll have to learn the hard way. Meanwhile, i'll have to pray that there is a girl out there who will love me for who i am
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Mr. O on August 08, 2005, 12:37:17 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.

that's some sexist stuff women would be thinking about...money.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Don Jacob on August 08, 2005, 03:12:51 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.

 i know its cliche to  quote dave chappelle but what he said was true......guys drive nice cars and get big houses cuz bitches bitches like that stuff ::in girl voice:: ooooo nice porche!   GOT YA BITCH!

lol ^


Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Don Seer on August 08, 2005, 03:38:50 PM

lol... theres this one chick i know thats changed her tune since she's seen me about in my car..

and her friend who i've known for years was all like "you still got that nice car?" the other day in the club...


Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: rafsta on August 08, 2005, 05:14:24 PM
as a good girl, i say my reason is because they are so much more fun..... they always have something going on, while with a good guy, they do they same things, and repition sucks.  bad boys always have that element of being scared and spontanaity about them.  they dont care what other people think, they're strong, and good guys are just too sensitive, and clingy, and when guys are clingy its pathetic and a HUGE turnoff.  but bad boys, they are just... fun, and  exciting.   at least i think so.   id otn want to go and do stuff my parents actually approve of.   ::)

i'd say thats about it...
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: rafsta on August 08, 2005, 05:17:09 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.

we should start a movement like the "minists" or some shit, to debunk some of the myths of feminism.

it's called being gay  :P ;D
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Suffice on August 08, 2005, 05:25:56 PM
key words here

"girls" and "boys"


i've been hanging around a lot of older people here recently and shit changes good women go after stable men
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.

It's the truth. They are driven by materialistic things and controlling their man so that they can get shit out of him.

And society labels men as the scum.

we should start a movement like the "minists" or some shit, to debunk some of the myths of feminism.

it's called being gay  :P ;D
it's call eat my left nut!! Yawrrr aye aye captain!
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: rafsta on August 08, 2005, 05:28:45 PM
the truth is, the majority of girls dont like a suck up guy, you goto balance the gentlemeness out with being a man, goto be firm not pussy, thats what women are for, women symbolise softness (in a good way), men symbolise strength, so naturally women will go for the alpha male, and men will go for the girl that will balance out her softness with a dudes hardness, you rebound off eachother...

maybe i got lucky, but my last girl wasnt about any of that scandalous gold digging bullshit (even though there is no gold to dig)... we just enjoyed eachothers company, we had complete honesty, and even at 40,000 km apart were still in-touch...

but there are scandalous girls out there, you just goto learn not to go for them, if you go for every girl that comes around the corner, then youre bound to get alot of ho's and get into a habit of pickin up ho's... but if you chill out, get to know people before you start fuckin like jack rabbits, then you have a greater chance of findin a girl youre cool with...

Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: rafsta on August 08, 2005, 05:33:27 PM
and its not a western concept... i bet it would happen in islam too if women could choose who they marry.
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: Suffice on August 08, 2005, 05:35:35 PM
and its not a western concept... i bet it would happen in islam too if women could choose who they marry.
ii agree
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: herpes on August 08, 2005, 06:33:38 PM
as a good girl, i say my reason is because they are so much more fun..... they always have something going on, while with a good guy, they do they same things, and repition sucks.  bad boys always have that element of being scared and spontanaity about them.  they dont care what other people think, they're strong, and good guys are just too sensitive, and clingy, and when guys are clingy its pathetic and a HUGE turnoff.  but bad boys, they are just... fun, and  exciting.   at least i think so.   id otn want to go and do stuff my parents actually approve of.   ::)

you do realize tho most of those so called bad boys are pussy's.  they talk a good game and you girls are too blind to see through it.  and its sad b/c no matter how old woman, not all but most get, they still fall for a assholes bull shit story
Title: Re: In the Western concept of love, "Why Do Good Girls Like Bad Boys?"
Post by: ZILLA THA GOODFELLA on August 09, 2005, 09:24:40 AM
they go after stable men b/c they have money.  It all comes down to stability an money, u think that  broad actually likes the guy,  No it comes down to money.  B/C that broad will leave that same guy as soon as someone with a little bit more money/stability comes along.  woman never grow up, there all little kids.


I hate to agree with something so shallow like this, but in many ways it is true. A female who starts out by dating nothing but "bad boys" is a scandalous individual. After growing up and realizing that most "bad boys" can not provide for their needs, they will move on to someone who can. And that someone is usually a good guy who can make a legit living for himself. Does that mean they are now attracted to "good guys"? NO, it's a need v.s want situation at this point. I've seen it happen with 3 different females in this life-time. I could get into every story but it will take for ever.

You have to look at a female's father as well, usually if there is a soft father or no father around, then the female will look for an aggressive manly energy that has been missing in their life. They find that in "bad boys". Plus there's the excitement value that many females crave for. What infinite said makes a lot of sense too though.