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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: UAK on August 09, 2005, 08:16:22 AM
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(http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/americas/08/09/chavez.invasion.ap/vert.chavez.ap.jpg)
PIMP OF THE WEEK
Chavez: U.S. will 'bite the dust' if it invades
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez told thousands of visiting students that if U.S. forces were to invade the South American country, they would be soundly defeated.
The U.S. government has strongly denied Chavez's claims that it is considering military action against Cuba's closest ally in the Americas.
But Chavez said late Monday that the U.S. government, which "won't stop caressing the idea of invading Cuba or invading Venezuela," should be warned of the consequences.
"If someday they get the crazy idea of coming to invade us, we'll make them bite the dust defending the freedom of our land," Chavez said to applause.
He spoke during the opening ceremony of a world youth festival bringing together student delegations from across the world and convened under the slogan "Against Imperialism and War."
Chavez called the United States the "most savage, cruel and murderous empire that has existed in the history of the world."
The Venezuelan leader said "socialism is the only path," and told the students the collective goal is to "save a world threatened by the voracity of U.S. imperialism."
Earlier, the students waved flags, danced in traditional dress, and held signs praising socialism, Cuban leader Fidel Castro and Ernesto "Che" Guevara.
More than 300 students from the United States shouted out their disapproval of U.S. President George W. Bush, chanting "Get out Bush!" Other students chanted: "Bush, fascist -- you're a terrorist!"
lmao I need to see this^ ;D
Some 15,000 youths from 144 countries traveled to Venezuela for the weeklong festival and conference, organizers said.
Chavez wore a red shirt like many of the students, and embraced delegation leaders as their groups marched past.
The ceremony was held in Venezuela's military headquarters in Caracas. Troops looked on while students passed carrying colored flags and shouting: "We will overcome!"
This year's World Festival of Students and Youth is the 16th. The first, in 1947, was held in Czechoslovakia, and during the Cold War most host countries were aligned with the Soviet bloc.
Apart from the former Soviet Union, other host countries have included Romania, Poland, Finland, Cuba, the former East Germany and North Korea.
The weeklong gathering will include musical performances, panel discussions and an "Anti-imperialist Court," which in past years has condemned the U.S. government's actions.
While tensions have grown between Chavez and Washington, the Venezuelan leader has built close ties with countries from Iran to China.
Chavez expressed his support Monday for Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, saying he expects to continue strengthening relations. Chavez said like Venezuela, Iran is a country that has been "attacked" for many years by "the hand of imperialism."
Chavez, whose country remains a major supplier of oil to the United States, also is sharply critical of the U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/08/09/chavez.invasion.ap/index.html
The team is growing...China/Middle East/South America.
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Good :D
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they aint gonna do shit, we're the us, we run the world, u just live in it.
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Top Ten By Combat Power
United States
China
Israel
India
Russia
Korea, South
Korea, North
United Kingdom
Turkey
Pakistan
The most unusual entry here is Israel. But this is because Israel is one of the few nations to have a reserve army that can be mobilized for action more quickly than most countries can get their active duties into shape for combat. The mobilized Israeli armed forces number over half a million troops. In addition, the Israelis have world class equipment and weapons, as well as exceptional intangibles. The downsize of this is that mobilizing its armed forces also cripples the Israeli economy. Under these conditions, Israel must conduct a war that ends within a few months. After that, supplying the armed forces becomes difficult and actual combat power begins to decline.
The other nations in the top ten have large armed forces that are well equipped and trained, at least compared to most nations farther down on the list. Britain抯 armed forces, like Israel抯, are better equipped, trained and more experienced than most. Turkey benefits from having a strong military tradition and excellent leadership at the small unit level, as well as good combat training.
Overall, the U.S. combat power is about three times that of second place China, and ten times that of tenth place Pakistan. But another modifying factor is how you plan to use that combat power. Wars are not fought in a vacuum, but in places that often inconvenient places for one side. Most armed forces are optimized for fighting on their own borders; for defending the homeland. Only the United States is capable of quickly moving lots of combat power to anywhere on the planet. Moreover, given a few months, the United States can put enough combat power just about anywhere, and become the major military force in that neighborhood. Countries like Britain and France can move some forces to just about anywhere on the planet. But no one can put forces anywhere quite like the United States.
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where is vanezuela on that list?
man thats like saying Cam'ron is better than any top 10 rappers when he's never made it on 1 best list
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where is vanezuela on that list?
man thats like saying Cam'ron is better than any top 10 rappers when he's never made it on 1 best list
lmao smerlus you know nothing about music ;D and Cam has been on #1 best list.
Where is Iraq and Vietnam on that list :o :nahnah:
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where is vanezuela on that list?
man thats like saying Cam'ron is better than any top 10 rappers when he's never made it on 1 best list
lmao smerlus you nothing about music ;D and Cam has been on #1 best list.
Where is Iraq and Vietnam on that list :o :nahnah:
1. cam'ron hasn't been on 1 respectable #1 list
2. iraq's army was already wiped off the map so we won there, and seeing as how we're fighting armed civilians from about 4-5 different countries now 1,800 to 15,000+ is a victory too
3. vietnam was a conflict that was supported 1/2 assed and it also took place aabout 30 years before this list was created... notice russia in the 5th or 6th place? yeah..... time does that to things
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Armed Iraqi civilians own U.S. ground troops, same thing will happen in Venezuela.
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15,000+ dead with estimates in the 100,000's of thousands vs 1800
i don't have to know 1st grade math to tell you who's owning who
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15,000+ dead with estimates in the 100,000's of thousands vs 1800
i don't have to know 1st grade math to tell you who's owning who
I didn't know ground troops flew jets and shot missiles from the ocean ;D
What were Vietnam numbers 70,000 Americans and 1,000,000 Vietnamese dead...I guess it's whatever it takes.
War of Attrition ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Attrition
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15,000+ dead with estimates in the 100,000's of thousands vs 1800
i don't have to know 1st grade math to tell you who's owning who
I didn't know ground troops flew jets and shot missiles from the ocean ;D
What were Vietnam numbers 70,000 Americans and 1,000,000 Vietnamese dead...I guess it's whatever it takes.
War of Attrition ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Attrition
awwww iwaq doesn't have wittle ships....the US should pway faiw and only use wittle men on da gwound
Iraqs lucky we hold back
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
to have a WAR you have to declare WAR the US government never declared WAR on vietnam, they simply sent troops by request of the vietnam government
this is a fact....and so i win this argument
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
to have a WAR you have to declare WAR the US government never declared WAR on vietnam, they simply sent troops by request of the vietnam government
this is a fact....and so i win this argument
Dictionary definitions build the ground to brainwash people. Who made the definition? A wise, unbiased man, or someone who intends to manipulate you? Or do the people who read the definitions afterwards try to manipulate you? Who knows?
Within instinct, feeling and philosophy the truth lies. Spoken, has the Master.
(yes I just watched Star Wars)
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
to have a WAR you have to declare WAR the US government never declared WAR on vietnam, they simply sent troops by request of the vietnam government
this is a fact....and so i win this argument
Dictionary definitions build the ground to brainwash people. Who made the definition? A wise, unbiased man, or someone who intends to manipulate you? Or do the people who read the definitions afterwards try to manipulate you? Who knows?
Within instinct, feeling and philosophy the truth lies. Spoken, has the Master.
(yes I just watched Star Wars)
well then, america never lost because who made the definition of the word lose? was this person biased? in fact let's not go by any definition...
you make no sense, your argument is erroneous and absurd. once again, you can't argue against facts
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Top Ten By Combat Power
United States
China
Israel
India
Russia
Korea, South
Korea, North
United Kingdom
Turkey
Pakistan
The most unusual entry here is Israel. But this is because Israel is one of the few nations to have a reserve army that can be mobilized for action more quickly than most countries can get their active duties into shape for combat. The mobilized Israeli armed forces number over half a million troops. In addition, the Israelis have world class equipment and weapons, as well as exceptional intangibles. The downsize of this is that mobilizing its armed forces also cripples the Israeli economy. Under these conditions, Israel must conduct a war that ends within a few months. After that, supplying the armed forces becomes difficult and actual combat power begins to decline.
The other nations in the top ten have large armed forces that are well equipped and trained, at least compared to most nations farther down on the list. Britain抯 armed forces, like Israel抯, are better equipped, trained and more experienced than most. Turkey benefits from having a strong military tradition and excellent leadership at the small unit level, as well as good combat training.
Overall, the U.S. combat power is about three times that of second place China, and ten times that of tenth place Pakistan. But another modifying factor is how you plan to use that combat power. Wars are not fought in a vacuum, but in places that often inconvenient places for one side. Most armed forces are optimized for fighting on their own borders; for defending the homeland. Only the United States is capable of quickly moving lots of combat power to anywhere on the planet. Moreover, given a few months, the United States can put enough combat power just about anywhere, and become the major military force in that neighborhood. Countries like Britain and France can move some forces to just about anywhere on the planet. But no one can put forces anywhere quite like the United States.
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good investment by america all those billions of dollars given in military aid makes israel no 3, shame america can't control them
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
to have a WAR you have to declare WAR the US government never declared WAR on vietnam, they simply sent troops by request of the vietnam government
this is a fact....and so i win this argument
Dictionary definitions build the ground to brainwash people. Who made the definition? A wise, unbiased man, or someone who intends to manipulate you? Or do the people who read the definitions afterwards try to manipulate you? Who knows?
Within instinct, feeling and philosophy the truth lies. Spoken, has the Master.
(yes I just watched Star Wars)
well then, america never lost because who made the definition of the word lose? was this person biased? in fact let's not go by any definition...
you make no sense, your argument is erroneous and absurd. once again, you can't argue against facts
I wanted to do it my way but well I can also quote some fact BS, which really isnt my style but so be it:
the Congress gave President Johnson extraordinarily wide powers to increase US involvement in the war. It was declared following an alleged attack on the US battleship Maddox by North Vietnamese gunboats in the gulf of the same name. Some historians have seen this as a de facto declaration of war against North Vietnam.
Vietnam Conflict: largely an American term, it regards the war as unofficial, minor or merely a police action (<-- LOOL) and also acknowledges that the U.S. never declared war on any other party in it.
Vietnam War: the most commonly-used term in English, it implies that the location was chiefly within the borders of the nation (which is disputed, as many regard the scope as including at least Cambodia); it sidesteps the issue of the lack of an American declaration of war.
A declaration of war is really just a formal thing to do. Not necessary to be in war at all, cause if a country wants to backstab the enemy it won't always declare war to warn the opponent will it? Personally, to me it was rather a war than a police action, don't know about you though.
Also funny is the fact that "Vietnam Conflict" is an American term, only used by guys like you. You can bet your last damn dolla that you wouldnt call it like that if you actually won the "police action".
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lol stupid souther americans
if there was really a war, venezuela would be the 54th state right behind puerto rico, israel, and iraq
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lol@calling Vietnam a "conflict" just in order not to admit that you lost a war. :D
One of many patriotic brain washing methods. Just take care that you won't enter a "conflict" with half of the eastern world.
to have a WAR you have to declare WAR the US government never declared WAR on vietnam, they simply sent troops by request of the vietnam government
this is a fact....and so i win this argument
Dictionary definitions build the ground to brainwash people. Who made the definition? A wise, unbiased man, or someone who intends to manipulate you? Or do the people who read the definitions afterwards try to manipulate you? Who knows?
Within instinct, feeling and philosophy the truth lies. Spoken, has the Master.
(yes I just watched Star Wars)
well then, america never lost because who made the definition of the word lose? was this person biased? in fact let's not go by any definition...
you make no sense, your argument is erroneous and absurd. once again, you can't argue against facts
I wanted to do it my way but well I can also quote some fact BS, which really isnt my style but so be it:
the Congress gave President Johnson extraordinarily wide powers to increase US involvement in the war. It was declared following an alleged attack on the US battleship Maddox by North Vietnamese gunboats in the gulf of the same name. Some historians have seen this as a de facto declaration of war against North Vietnam.
Vietnam Conflict: largely an American term, it regards the war as unofficial, minor or merely a police action (<-- LOOL) and also acknowledges that the U.S. never declared war on any other party in it.
Vietnam War: the most commonly-used term in English, it implies that the location was chiefly within the borders of the nation (which is disputed, as many regard the scope as including at least Cambodia); it sidesteps the issue of the lack of an American declaration of war.
A declaration of war is really just a formal thing to do. Not necessary to be in war at all, cause if a country wants to backstab the enemy it won't always declare war to warn the opponent will it? Personally, to me it was rather a war than a police action, don't know about you though.
Also funny is the fact that "Vietnam Conflict" is an American term, only used by guys like you. You can bet your last damn dolla that you wouldnt call it like that if you actually won the "police action".
1. war was never declared...
2. you know why everyone calls it the vietnam war besides us? because it was an actual war between countries
3. you know why Americans call it the Vietnam Conflict? because countries were at war, and we supported one of them but never declared war on that country....it's very easy to understand
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lets say the americans lost the american revolution.... the british won...
it wouldn't go down as a loss for the french because they never declared war on the british and they only helped support us
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last fact...
do you know why america salutes like this:
(http://www.okmilmuseum.ca/images/17%20SEP%20FINAL%20SALUTE.jpg)
notice palm facing down?
and other countries salute like this?:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1680000/images/_1682777_medal2.jpg)
notice palm facing out?
some historians give this to the account of america never losing a war
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funny thing is, if America went down, the world would probably be fucked over u idiots
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Shut up slut^
Oh look it's the Vietnam Conflict Memorial :)
(http://www.rootsweb.com/~txfalls/picMilitary_VietnamWarMemorial2_09082001_12062004.jpg)
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^^ okay, let's live in America and hope America goes down..... ::)
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^^ okay, let's live in America and hope America goes down..... ::)
Never said that or wished for it...but they can go down in Iraq, Iran, Somalia Afghanistan, Vietnam, Venezuela, North Korea etc...
And the only reason why I'm here is because of your rotten government.
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^ so, no one said that it was "right" that they go to these other countries
and it's YOUR government too
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^^ okay, let's live in America and hope America goes down..... ::)
Never said that or wished for it...but they can go down in Iraq, Iran, Somalia Afghanistan, Vietnam, Venezuela, North Korea etc...
And the only reason why I'm here is because of your rotten government.
well move your chongo ass back to the jungle in Congo then bitch
::)
i hate it when people say this shit
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ppl need to respect americas gangsta, we got mad guns
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yup 30 thousand peeps get shot and die each year in america.....
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^^ okay, let's live in America and hope America goes down..... ::)
Never said that or wished for it...but they can go down in Iraq, Iran, Somalia Afghanistan, Vietnam, Venezuela, North Korea etc...
And the only reason why I'm here is because of your rotten government.
well move your chongo ass back to the jungle in Congo then bitch
::)
i hate it when people say this shit
At least I know which race I'm and have pride where I come from :D Go look into my history, bitch.
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jake = 48 hour ban
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^ maaann....let the dogs kill each other maynee
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Shut up slut^
Oh look it's the Vietnam Conflict Memorial :)
(http://www.rootsweb.com/~txfalls/picMilitary_VietnamWarMemorial2_09082001_12062004.jpg)
it's called the vietnam war memorial because it was a war.....just not for us
seems like you're conflicted about the whole issue, but you can't argue against facts...
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Kain,Please GTFO of my country. Honestly,no one is forcing you to stay. It sickens me to read all your bullshit post's denouncing America or wishing some sort of catastrophic event on us. You talk mad shit on the U.S. yet you will never contribute to resloving any of the "injustices" you point out daily. You are a complete waste of skin. Since the inception of this country people have fought and died defending the right for you to run your mouth and bitch and complain. You repay them by bashing the very ideals they thought were worth fighting for. America is by no means perfect and without fault. However,since its formation America has been the land of opprotunity and freedom for millions of people. It's obvious you will never leave for the same reason Don Rizzle posts all his worthless dribble,as much as you "hate" America you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Unfortunately
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Kain,Please GTFO of my country. Honestly,no one is forcing you to stay. It sickens me to read all your bullshit post's denouncing America or wishing some sort of catastrophic event on us. You talk mad shit on the U.S. yet you will never contribute to resloving any of the "injustices" you point out daily. You are a complete waste of skin. Since the inception of this country people have fought and died defending the right for you to run your mouth and bitch and complain. You repay them by bashing the very ideals they thought were worth fighting for. America is by no means perfect and without fault. However,since its formation America has been the land of opprotunity and freedom for millions of people. It's obvious you will never leave for the same reason Don Rizzle posts all his worthless dribble,as much as you "hate" America you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Unfortunately
England is the motherland, you should respect my authoratai!
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Kain,Please GTFO of my country. Honestly,no one is forcing you to stay. It sickens me to read all your bullshit post's denouncing America or wishing some sort of catastrophic event on us. You talk mad shit on the U.S. yet you will never contribute to resloving any of the "injustices" you point out daily. You are a complete waste of skin. Since the inception of this country people have fought and died defending the right for you to run your mouth and bitch and complain. You repay them by bashing the very ideals they thought were worth fighting for. America is by no means perfect and without fault. However,since its formation America has been the land of opprotunity and freedom for millions of people. It's obvious you will never leave for the same reason Don Rizzle posts all his worthless dribble,as much as you "hate" America you wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Unfortunately
America does a good job of fucking up where everyone else lives ;) anyways I'm cool with the Native Americans (American Indians) so it's all good, get off my nutsack.
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last fact...
do you know why america salutes like this:
(http://www.okmilmuseum.ca/images/17%20SEP%20FINAL%20SALUTE.jpg)
notice palm facing down?
and other countries salute like this?:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1680000/images/_1682777_medal2.jpg)
notice palm facing out?
some historians give this to the account of america never losing a war
Naww, most countries do the same as U.S., but not necessarily because they didn't lose a war, but because they're saluting the gold emblem on the beret, which usually is the symbol of the national leader, often kings/queens, or the army logo, squadron logo, initials, etc. whatever the national tradition is..
Displaying your palm to officers is considered rude many places, thereof the palm facing down. :D
Don't they teach this stuff in the army ?? :P
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last fact...
do you know why america salutes like this:
(http://www.okmilmuseum.ca/images/17%20SEP%20FINAL%20SALUTE.jpg)
notice palm facing down?
and other countries salute like this?:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1680000/images/_1682777_medal2.jpg)
notice palm facing out?
some historians give this to the account of america never losing a war
Naww, most countries do the same as U.S., but not necessarily because they didn't lose a war, but because they're saluting the gold emblem on the beret, which usually is the symbol of the national leader, often kings/queens, or the army logo, squadron logo, initials, etc. whatever the national tradition is..
Displaying your palm to officers is considered rude many places, thereof the palm facing down. :D
Don't they teach this stuff in the army ?? :P
that's why i said some historians, the true reason is that the early military's hands used to be dirty for shit so they thought it was disrespectful to turn a dirty hand to some one... so they started facing it down
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last fact...
do you know why america salutes like this:
(http://www.okmilmuseum.ca/images/17%20SEP%20FINAL%20SALUTE.jpg)
notice palm facing down?
and other countries salute like this?:
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1680000/images/_1682777_medal2.jpg)
notice palm facing out?
some historians give this to the account of america never losing a war
Naww, most countries do the same as U.S., but not necessarily because they didn't lose a war, but because they're saluting the gold emblem on the beret, which usually is the symbol of the national leader, often kings/queens, or the army logo, squadron logo, initials, etc. whatever the national tradition is..
Displaying your palm to officers is considered rude many places, thereof the palm facing down. :D
Don't they teach this stuff in the army ?? :P
this is America, we dont waste our time learning about any other cultures....didnt u know? lol
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jake = 48 hour ban
it was worth it 8)
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^^ okay, let's live in America and hope America goes down..... ::)
Never said that or wished for it...but they can go down in Iraq, Iran, Somalia Afghanistan, Vietnam, Venezuela, North Korea etc...
And the only reason why I'm here is because of your rotten government.
well move your chongo ass back to the jungle in Congo then bitch
::)
i hate it when people say this shit
At least I know which race I'm and have pride where I come from :D Go look into my history, bitch.
what aer you trying to say here , i'm not proud or my race?
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ppl need to respect americas gangsta, we got mad guns
u pussy ass nigga, its never good to be a bully, and a rule of thumb, if ur the bully, u will always have to prove urself, and one day, a nigga thats bigger, stronger, and faster will come thru and leave u on the ground leakin. and please, dont talk about guns unless ur a gun toting soldier, whether thats in iraq, or in the hood...
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^^^ man shut the fuck up before I nuclear bomb you