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Title: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 12, 2005, 12:03:01 PM
N o          D o u b t

TRAGIC KINGDOM
(1995)

(http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cobalt14/images/musique/nodoubt.jpg) (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=24R0R8JM)


No Doubt popped up at a weird time. In 1995, grunge was on the verge of dying, gangsta rap was huge and bubblegum pop bands were becoming as abundant as fish in the sea, taking over the airwaves. Somewhere in between of all this, a Californian ska group climbed up the billboard charts rapidly with a tune that has remained part of every radio DJīs standard repertoire up to this day.

"Donīt Speak" was the one hit single that brought the band national and, quite soon, worldwide attention almost overnight. "Tragic Kingdom" was the album that gave the new American ska scene a tremendous boost and popularized a whole genre. Hailed by critics and fans equally, the LP that is in hindsight arguably one of the most important records of the 90īs scored an impressive number of hits - the aforementioned no. 1 single "Donīt Speak", its single release follow-up "Just A Girl", "Spiderwebs", "Sunday Morning" and "Different People" - and sold 21 million copies in its first two years.

"Tragic Kingdom" is the best one-hour introduction to 3rd wave ska you could possibly get; The opening tune "Spiderwebs" is a comparatively slow reggae song that puts up the pace as its catchy chorus kicks in, "Excuse Me Mister" and "Just A Girl", under the undeniable influence of punk rock, take it up another level, the you-shouldnīt-have-dumped-me anthem "Happy Now?" merges ska with a beautiful Blondie riff and after you have heard Gwen Stefani extolling the virtues of diversity on "Different People" youīre probably sold. The album continues on an equally high level; the growing-pains lyrics of "Sixteen" being as convincing as the sing-along chorus on "World Go Round" or the disdainful words of rebuke of "Sunday Morning".

The title track finally puts a cease to all this by hyping up the listener with ferocious riffs, dissonant trumpets and almost apolyptical background vocals at a punkrock high-speed level right before its end. It looked like No Doubt were quite hungry for more. Yet, after their huge success, they took a certain amount of time to come back with albums number 4 and 5, "Return Of Saturn" and "Rock Steady". While both records were successful, the group could never live up to their third, ground-breaking album anymore. It was just too much. Or, like Gwen Stefani said shortly after "Tragic Kingdom" came out: "I never thought this could happen to this loser band."
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Kill on August 12, 2005, 12:03:22 PM
...now. I know what I just did. You can easily call my No-Doubt-fan ass prejudiced and belittle my intelligence for ranking something you consider comparatively trifling like this album right here among the greats. Since I know itīs probably hard to stomach for certain people that No Doubt pop up in a list they consider to be reserved to the Dylans, Pink Floyds and Princes, hereīs some shit Iīll say prophylactically :

- this album made an entire genre popular
- this album sold 21 million copies in its first two years
- this album has songs being played on air regularly 10 years after its release
- this album was praised by all critics...unlike, eg, "Never Mind The Bollocks" which received a lot of bad criticism coming from punk circles
- this album is the holy bible of an entire generation of ska fans
- this album is the most important release of its genre, which is a quite popular one overall

...but you may express your feelings of course, thatīs just my point...peace

FOR THE HOOK-UP CLICK ON THE ALBUM COVER OR THE HOOK-UP LINK IN MY OVERVIEW THREAD
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: white Boy on August 12, 2005, 12:07:54 PM
hey i love this album, and for anyone to hate would be stupid, cause uve said time and time again , how your gonna mix it up, so great album, great spot, im wondering, is the list all done already, or u making it up as you go?
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Kill on August 12, 2005, 12:14:50 PM
hey i love this album, and for anyone to hate would be stupid, cause uve said time and time again , how your gonna mix it up, so great album, great spot, im wondering, is the list all done already, or u making it up as you go?

thank you. Itīs not all done, but Iīve got a word document in which I have the top 10, top 20, top 30 and top 40, ten albums each in no order yet and about 15 albums that can still get the eight remaining spots in the top 50...cause from about 44-50 to 50 it doesnīt matter that much how the exact constellation is. There were just like 5-6 albums that popped into my head after I put up Mezzanine. But basically, I got the albums ready and know more or less what theyīre gonna be ranked like, but Iīll do the exact ranking continuously
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: WeSTSidE_Don on August 12, 2005, 12:44:32 PM
great cd thanks for the hook up too
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: eS El Duque on August 12, 2005, 04:39:36 PM
the songs aint working on my comp ???
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Javier on August 12, 2005, 04:41:07 PM
the songs aint working on my comp ???


lol yeah tahts what happent o me too, but i thought it was on my PC
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: eS El Duque on August 12, 2005, 07:02:13 PM
^^so is it working for you now?
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Javier on August 12, 2005, 07:05:12 PM
Nope.  I downloaded #50 as well and nada
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: eS El Duque on August 12, 2005, 08:27:20 PM
DAMN YOU KILL
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Kill on August 13, 2005, 05:23:41 AM
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

the converted files donīt even work for me GODFUCKINDAMMIT. Iīll try to fix it in a few hours, right now i gotta go
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: TheDeli on August 13, 2005, 10:02:21 AM
Solid album, forgot how good it was, agree that its got a big impact on it's own genre & music in general, no 49 suprises though personally wouldn't have it that high, good list though

Cheers
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49
Post by: Kill on August 14, 2005, 04:45:27 PM
Oughkaigh

You better show me some love (if this shit works lol)...I d/līd the whole shit so I had MP3īs ready and didnīt have to convert nothing with my somehow-not-working-ass Audiocatalyst program. I tried it, and for me it DOES work this time
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: W-Side on August 14, 2005, 04:52:46 PM
^^but you don't wanna download the other 49 albums do you ? plus it's annoying when they in different quality n shit since you gettin them of programs like kazaa.. I already got this one but I bet there's many I don't have, including #50. It would be alot better to get that shit working or use a different program.
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: DAYUM on August 14, 2005, 05:02:00 PM
wtf? no doubt?

i can already tell ur list is gonna be bullshit
but its all good its your opinion i like to see who makes the list tho
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 14, 2005, 05:13:10 PM
Nyasin: Quality is alright. Donīt complain now >:( ...some albums I WILL have to d/l anyways, cause I only got them on vynil. But I just donīt know what it is with Audiocatalyst, I checked all the setting options (which I hadnīt changed anything about) and when I convert files they just end up having no sound. If you have a) an idea what that is/I should do about it or b) another program, get at me...thanks, i appreciate your help btw

i can already tell ur list is gonna be bullshit
thatīs astounding. who should be on in your opinion?
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: DAYUM on August 14, 2005, 05:17:33 PM
Nyasin: Quality is alright. Donīt complain now >:( ...some albums I WILL have to d/l anyways, cause I only got them on vynil. But I just donīt know what it is with Audiocatalyst, I checked all the setting options (which I hadnīt changed anything about) and when I convert files they just end up having no sound. If you have a) an idea what that is/I should do about it or b) another program, get at me...thanks, i appreciate your help btw

i can already tell ur list is gonna be bullshit
thatīs astounding. who should be on in your opinion?

just look at my top ten albums
you might think my list is bullshit too its all good tho we all got different tastes
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 14, 2005, 05:20:03 PM
just look at my top ten albums

where?
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: DAYUM on August 14, 2005, 05:21:40 PM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84303.0
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 14, 2005, 05:26:47 PM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84303.0

ok, I havenīt heard the Bizzy, all the others are dope albums. Only, is there anything non-hiphop you listen to? Cause I think you do see that in an all-genre list you canīt have a top 10 like that?
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: DAYUM on August 14, 2005, 05:31:30 PM
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=84303.0

ok, I havenīt heard the Bizzy, all the others are dope albums. Only, is there anything non-hiphop you listen to? Cause I think you do see that in an all-genre list you canīt have a top 10 like that?
no i dont like alot of music outside of rap

but to name a few i do like
any red hot chillii peppers album
system of a down - toxicity
prince- greatest hits
iron maiden- piece of mind
Santanas greatest hits

and thats all i can think of from the top of my head right now
 
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 14, 2005, 05:41:46 PM
^^ that ainīt bad music, but still makes me wonder how I could satisfy somebody like you with a 50-album, all-genres list. but if No Doubt sucks IYO, thatīs ok, to each his own (but this right here does NOT sound like "Hey Baby", let alone "Holla Back Girl" in case you thought so)
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: W-Side on August 14, 2005, 06:01:35 PM
Nyasin: Quality is alright. Donīt complain now >:( ...some albums I WILL have to d/l anyways, cause I only got them on vynil. But I just donīt know what it is with Audiocatalyst, I checked all the setting options (which I hadnīt changed anything about) and when I convert files they just end up having no sound. If you have a) an idea what that is/I should do about it or b) another program, get at me...thanks, i appreciate your help btw

lol I'm not complaining, and like I said I got the album I'm not saying it cause the quality of the mp3s you upped is shit, which I wouldn't know, but to let you know what might be another reason to try and rip albums, other than not havin to spend the time lookin for the tracks. Since you been using them kazaa like file sharing programs I prolly don't have to tell you how annoying it is to download the last missing track of an album for the 12th time and it's still the tagged / shitty sounding version. I'll be happy with whatever you up of course, just sayin..

I'ma look for another grabber and send you a link
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: W-Side on August 14, 2005, 06:26:46 PM
hope this one works

http://s43.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0MNG6MSC7AH7P0PHYGYMXBWDGH
Title: Re: Killīs 50 greatest albums ever - #49 (with a hook-up that SHOULD work)
Post by: Kill on August 15, 2005, 05:12:10 AM
^^ thank you

and I use Soulseek, you usually get the whole album there, so itīs not nearly as annoying as Kazaa and somehow, I never get fucked up versions from Soulseek. Still of course, ripping would be a lot more comfortable, so Iīll try this one