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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Thirteen on August 17, 2005, 08:16:25 AM
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Xbox 360 pricing revealed: $299, $399 models due at launch
The 360 gets two spins: the $299 "Core System," and the $399 fully-loaded package with 20GB hard drive, wireless controller and headset, HD cables, and remote control.
As the Big Three (Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo) planned their business tactics for the next-generation console wars, none have been willing to divulge their strategies, lest competitors get the scoop. All that was left was for industry media, fans, and analysts to speculate on what would be of the new consoles.
In its quest to get the console out in time for the holiday season, Microsoft hasn't exactly kept the shutters drawn on its secrets of its next-gen contribution, the Xbox 360. Pictures of the console surfaced before its debut on MTV, its name was exposed before the company could spin it itself, and the prospect of standard wireless controllers came with no strings attached.
Today, Microsoft laid down new facts about its upcoming console at the Games Convention in Leipzig, and they sounded awfully familiar to analyst predictions and forum posters' speculations.
Microsoft announced that the Xbox 360 will be released in two SKUs, the "Xbox 360 Core System" and the "Xbox 360." The two products will be sold at $299 and $399, respectively. The two systems break down as follows:
Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•Wired controller
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
•Standard AV cables
Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•20GB detachable hard drive
•Wireless controller
•Wireless Xbox Live headset
•High-definition AV cables
•Ethernet cable
•Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
Peter Moore, Xbox corporate vice president of Worldwide Marketing and Publishing, who spoke with GameSpot, reiterated that the Xbox 360 is still on schedule to launch simultaneously in North America, Europe, and Japan this holiday season. Details on the specifics of the Japanese release will be disclosed at this year's Tokyo Game Show, which begins September 16.
He explained that the idea behind the two choices came from "lessons learned from the first generation [of Xbox], but perhaps more importantly to provide the gamer with choices in pricing as applicable to their gaming habits." In addition, gamers will be able to select from a range of peripherals, available at launch:
• Faceplate ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Hard Drive (20 GB) ($99.99, 99.99 Euros, 69.99 GBP)
• Memory Unit (64 MB) ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 22.99 GBP)
• Wireless Networking Adapter ($99.99, 79.99 Euros, 59.99 GBP)
• Wireless Controller ($49.99, 44.99 Euros, 32.99 GBP)
• Play and Charge Kit ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Rechargeable Battery Pack ($11.99, 14.99 Euros, 9.99 GBP)
• Controller ($39.99, 34.99 Euros, 24.99 GBP)
• Headset ($19.99, 19.99 Euros, 14.99 GBP)
• Universal Media Remote ($29.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• Component HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
• S-Video AV Cable (US) ($29.99)
• SCART AV Cable (Europe) (24.99 Euros, 17.99 GBP)
• VGA HD AV Cable ($39.99, 29.99 Euros, 19.99 GBP)
It's too early to get a reaction from gamers on Microsoft's pricing plan, but a few analysts privy to the information were able to chime in with their thoughts.
One analyst who spoke with GameSpot said, "I think tiered pricing makes sense, particularly as Microsoft wants to offer hard core gamers more advanced services. $299 is clearly a price leader and headline grabber, but I imagine they initially expect to ship (and sell) a majority of units at the higher price point. Also, with a $299 SKU, they avoid disappointing consumers, who are likely to compare launch pricing with the PS2 in 2000 and original Xbox in 2001."
The analyst adds, "As far as the publishers are concerned, Microsoft needs to make sure that publishers are making games that can be played with or without a hard-drive, and I think they are communicating this message."
Michael Pachter, of Wedbush Morgan Securities, wasn't as cheerful. He sees the $299 model as a "publicity stunt." "They're doing it to say they are launching at $299. The hardcore guys will absolutely not buy the $299 model...Only a complete idiot would buy the $299 model."
Pachter references Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi's statement saying the PlayStation 3 would "be expensive" as an attempt to "psych Microsoft into charging $399." But, he sees the $399 price point as providing Microsoft with breathing room to lower the price once the PS3 is released, which is projected to be in 2006, or even 2007.
Regarding the release date, Moore said there have been no announcements made primarily for competitive reasons, but also because Microsoft was still monitoring the production flow of the console's components and localization of launch titles. "One thing we won't do is underserve the market and leave retailers high and dry. That never works, that just leaves more people who are P.O.'d at us than happy with us."
There are also still no games that are definitely launch titles. But Moore does outline the strategy Microsoft is approaching. "So much is going to happen in the next couple of months...My view is simple, you need to make sure that you have the key genres covered at launch. Take care of sports, racing, action-adventure, fantasy, first-person shooters. I think there are check marks that need to go in boxes to make sure that gamers have games they are looking for in a particular genre. We're still tracking 24 to 40 Xbox 360 games for release before the end of the calendar year. I think you'll see that all the titles we got excited about at E3 are still firmly in that launch window [90 days from the release of the Xbox 360]."
But what about gamers who aren't ready to jump into the next generation? Moore seems pleased with the current success of the original Xbox, and doesn't see any price drop with the console. "We’re selling all we can get [made]. Our biggest challenge is to meet demand and what is typically a very quiet time of year. So no, I don't see any plans to change any pricing as we currently stand on the Xbox."
By Tim Surette -- GameSpot
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crazy im planning to get one for xmas
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
so what do u reccomend ps3 or x 360 coz i m thinkin bout x 360?
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
so what do u reccomend ps3 or x 360 coz i m thinkin bout x 360?
ill be honest we just have to wait and see cuz ull never know wat system ull llike next man from wat ive heard and see soo far i rather get the PS3 but i really want both system
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the hard drive is for final fantasy 11,i play that shit all the time and u can put your backup for your memory cards
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not a bad price range IMO
thanks for postin it up man
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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A bit steep in my opinion - especially the cheaper model. For an extra hundred you get all that extra stuff that bought separately costs a lot more? Why even bother with the "core" model?
Oh and the hard drive - it's for saving your game, custom music (I heard you're supposed to be able to have custom playlists for all games this time around) and possibly extra content. (The first Splinter Cell had extra content you could download from X-Box Live to your X-Box). I think the hard drive is a key element that separates the X-Box from the rest. To make an X-Box without one is just dumb, I think.
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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I was ::) becuase you said Xbox has some gay ass games...obviousily you're not a true gamer
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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I was ::) becuase you said Xbox has some gay ass games...obviousily you're not a true gamer
wat do u concider a good game and dont say halo cuz i personally think dat game was garbage on the xbox it way better on PC
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
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I was ::) becuase you said Xbox has some gay ass games...obviousily you're not a true gamer
wat do u concider a good game and dont say halo cuz i personally think dat game was garbage on the xbox it way better on PC
Ninja Gaiden
Any game that comes out for the xbox and PS2...the xbox versions are better
KOTOR 1 & 2
Jade Empire
Morrowind
Gladius
Crimson Skies
and for some people Halo 1 & 2
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dang... well there goes half of my next paycheck down the drain. any release date yet?
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ninja gaiden kick ass! tight graphics,good gameplay
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wtf is da harddrive for besides music or and OS?
some pple use it to burn games once u get ur x moded but i dont know much bout it since i own a ps2 but ya dey transfer games to the harddrive or something
thats wat i was thinkin too cuz i mean i can get a harddrive for the ps2 but i dont see wat i can do wit it btw i own both systems and all i can say is xbox has GAY and i mean GAY ASSS games so to me the ps2 is da best system ever out and now i have to wait till the new systems come out
lmao ::)
???
I was ::) becuase you said Xbox has some gay ass games...obviousily you're not a true gamer
wat do u concider a good game and dont say halo cuz i personally think dat game was garbage on the xbox it way better on PC
Ninja Gaiden
Any game that comes out for the xbox and PS2...the xbox versions are better
KOTOR 1 & 2
Jade Empire
Morrowind
Gladius
Crimson Skies
and for some people Halo 1 & 2
ill admit Crimson Skies was a fuckin tyte ass game but honestly thats da only game ive enjoyed playin on xbox OOOOOOO shit i forgot u cant forget Forza motorsports now dat game was great too man but even then still compare to GT4 IMO