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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Spicemuthafuc*in1 on August 18, 2005, 09:27:33 PM
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Im doing this list based on all around talent and basically if i was a gm who i would want leading my team.
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Shaquille Oneal
5. Allen Iverson
6. Tracy Mcgrady
7. Jermaine Oneal
8. Dirk Nowitiki
9. Amare Stoudemire
10. Steve Nash
Honarable Mention (Paul Pierce, Lebron James, Dwane Wade, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest)
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Where's Manu Ginobli? And Kobe aint that good anymore. And where's Dwayne Wade?
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Kobe is still one of the best, i said wade is on the fringe of being on the top 10.
however in 2 years he could be as high as #1 on the list so chill.
and the only player that i listed that isnt as good as manu is ben wallace and thats it
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Kobe is still good but not as good as he was when he was playing wit shaq, all im sayin is he should be at #5 or 6.
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^^ok i agree completely about that. its tough because i know shaq is more dominant and valuable but kobe is more talented. but i wont argue having him 5 or 6
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1. Kevin Garnett
2. Shaquille O'neal
3. Tim Duncan
4. Amare Stoudemaire
5. Lebron James
6. Kobe Bryant
7. Tracy McGrady
8. Jermaine O'neal
9. Allen Iverson
10. Manu Ginobli
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Why is Iverson ranked so low?
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^^ coz i would rather have those guys on my team instead of iverson
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And Kobe aint that good anymore.
idiot.
Kobe > Your Life.
i can't wait for kobe to come back next yr stronger and proving these stupid haters wrong.
btw, wade & manu aren't top 10.
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hey u moron i didnt say he wasnt good any more im saying he's lost his touch a bit.
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hey u moron i didnt say he wasnt good any more im saying he's lost his touch a bit.
how did he lose his touch?
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Im doing this list based on all around talent and basically if i was a gm who i would want leading my team.
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Shaquille Oneal
5. Allen Iverson
6. Tracy Mcgrady
7. Jermaine Oneal
8. Dirk Nowitiki
9. Amare Stoudemire
10. Steve Nash
Honarable Mention (Paul Pierce, Lebron James, Dwane Wade, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest)
I would pick the same list though not in that order n James over J. Oneal
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
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Where's Manu Ginobli? And Kobe aint that good anymore. And where's Dwayne Wade?
Kobe is top 10 without a doubt. M. Ginobili ? Why not Robert Taylor ;D. Nah seriously Gino top 20 but in the first 10 ? No
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
you truely are an idiot. then again you're 15.
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u cant mess wit ginobli u'll see this year as a matter of fact every1 will see.
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u cant mess wit ginobli u'll see this year as a matter of fact every1 will see.
don't get me wrong I like Gino he has crazy skills n can do lots of things on the court : steals, assists , rebounds but his outside shoot isn't that good (though he had very good % this year)
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u cant mess wit ginobli u'll see this year as a matter of fact every1 will see.
the only thing Gonzoe has on kobe is the size of his nose.
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
It makes me laugh when suppose NBA heads are convinced Shaq won 3 titles alone . I advice you to watch Lakers 2000-2002 playoffs games , especially the 4th quarters one more time ::)
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if Kobe is so god damn good tell me this...what's the problem now, why isnt Kobe tha shit? please tell me.
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
It makes me laugh when suppose NBA heads are convinced Shaq won 3 titles alone . I advice you to watch Lakers 2000-2002 playoffs games , especially the 4th quarters one more time ::)
he was 10 when kobe won in 2000. hes too little too remember.
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if Kobe is so god damn good tell me this...what's the problem now, why isnt Kobe tha shit? please tell me.
what do u mean by "tha shit?" dumbass.
"kobe is the best in the game" - amare stoudemire
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i still watched basketball when i was 10 i started watching since i was five.
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
thats fine but at least back up your opinion to why hes not the best in the game u retard. if u cant think of one then logg off and kill yourself.
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look at last years stats.
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
thats fine but at least back up your opinion to why hes not the best in the game u retard. if u cant think of one then logg off and kill yourself.
people usually hate Kobe coz he's arrogant they don't even complain about his game that much (outside he never passed that ball)
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look at last years stats.
so stats tell whos better? in this case u lost again. i'm done replying to some retarded ass 15 yr old whos obvioulsy too stupid to talk about sports.
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8636/kobeshitsonmanu7vq.jpg)
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
thats fine but at least back up your opinion to why hes not the best in the game u retard. if u cant think of one then logg off and kill yourself.
people usually hate Kobe coz he's arrogant they don't even complain about his game that much (outside he never passed that ball)
what makes him arrogant?
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
thats fine but at least back up your opinion to why hes not the best in the game u retard. if u cant think of one then logg off and kill yourself.
people usually hate Kobe coz he's arrogant they don't even complain about his game that much (outside he never passed that ball)
what makes him arrogant?
I'm a Lakers fan so I don't pay much attention to this but you know people said he hasn't lots of friends on the team, all these pbs with Jackson... n his attitude. Personally I think he's just a very confident player n this behaviour helps him be a winner ( for example his classics 4th quarters). Plus people hates on him coz he always suceeds in and younger than others people
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look at last years stats.
so stats tell whos better? in this case u lost again. i'm done replying to some retarded ass 15 yr old whos obvioulsy too stupid to talk about sports.
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8636/kobeshitsonmanu7vq.jpg)
Look for Killa answer : "if Gino played 40 min he 'd score as much as Kobe" ;D
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look at last years stats.
so stats tell whos better? in this case u lost again. i'm done replying to some retarded ass 15 yr old whos obvioulsy too stupid to talk about sports.
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/8636/kobeshitsonmanu7vq.jpg)
Look for Killa answer : "if Gino played 40 min he 'd score as much as Kobe" ;D
But he's 2 weak 2 play 40 minutes so he won't.
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Im doing this list based on all around talent and basically if i was a gm who i would want leading my team.
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Shaquille Oneal
5. Allen Iverson
6. Tracy Mcgrady
7. Jermaine Oneal
8. Dirk Nowitiki
9. Amare Stoudemire
10. Steve Nash
Honarable Mention (Paul Pierce, Lebron James, Dwane Wade, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest)
I would pick the same list though not in that order n James over J. Oneal
same
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Garnett
Duncan
James
Nowitzki
Stoudemire
Bryant
S. O'Neal
McGrady
Iverson
Nash
Also good: Jermaine, Artest, Wade
Note that it's a GM's perspective, not based on talent but the value of the players. Forwards are more valuable than Guards, that's a fact.
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Kobe shot 43% from the field Last season b/c of ruty T's stupid ass "Isolation/stand around & shoot 3's system"..kobe will bounce back next season with the help of phil jax & the triangle offence..if you remember last season when kobe came back from his injury & the triangle was already been run b/c we got rid of rudy t..kobe went on a 12 game strech where he avg 32 ppg,52% from the field,14 FT's per game...next season kobe will have his best season ever,watch...& kobe stil avg his 6 RPG & career high 6 assist per game,,top 3 in getting to the free throw line..so stop acting like he's done
back to topic..
Kobe
T.Duncan
K.Garnett
Amare Stoudmire
Jason Kidd
J.o'neal
steve nash
ben wallece
l.james
t.mac
iverson
Dirk Nowitiki
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
Shaq was there two years ago, and he was the main reason why Lakers didnt win the title. Because Brown chosed not to double him and he wasnt even able to put decent numbers against Ben Wallace. No. Shaq wasnt that dominant "alone". He's dominant, but he too needs a great supporting cast to win a title. Like Kobe. None in the League can win "alone". The 3peat team had players like Bryant, Horry, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, Harper, Grant, George, who all contribuited to make them Lakers the best team in the world. It was their defence, their 3pts (Horry, Fisher and Shaw, where you at?). Last year only Bryant was still there. And George, who didnt play. Not enought to compare the two dynasties. Not to mention Phil Jackson. But lol, y'all still continue to make those dumb statements.
Matter of fact Lakers lost when they cutted/traded/didnt re-sign players like Horry, Fox and Shaw, who were highly underrated. Shaq with Malone and Payton didnt win the ring. FACT.
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I would put kevin garnett first
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1. Kevin Garnett
2. Tim Duncun
3. Lebron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Alan Iverson
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Im doing this list based on all around talent and basically if i was a gm who i would want leading my team.
1. Tim Duncan
2. Kevin Garnett
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Shaquille Oneal
5. Allen Iverson
6. Tracy Mcgrady
7. Jermaine Oneal
8. Dirk Nowitiki
9. Amare Stoudemire
10. Steve Nash
Honarable Mention (Paul Pierce, Lebron James, Dwane Wade, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest)
are u talking about for just ONE year? Or for their future? Cus Shaq definetely wouldnt be in that top 10 if this were about a teams FUTURE. He's only got a couple good years left.
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Amare thinks that but he dont know. and u may say "he's faced him so he would know" or some shit like that but Kobe is not the best in the game.
thats fine but at least back up your opinion to why hes not the best in the game u retard. if u cant think of one then logg off and kill yourself.
people usually hate Kobe coz he's arrogant they don't even complain about his game that much (outside he never passed that ball)
what makes him arrogant?
u must be part of the fan club...u gotta lil Kobe Jersey and some pom poms too?
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
Shaq was there two years ago, and he was the main reason why Lakers didnt win the title. Because Brown chosed not to double him and he wasnt even able to put decent numbers against Ben Wallace. No. Shaq wasnt that dominant "alone". He's dominant, but he too needs a great supporting cast to win a title. Like Kobe. None in the League can win "alone". The 3peat team had players like Bryant, Horry, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, Harper, Grant, George, who all contribuited to make them Lakers the best team in the world. It was their defence, their 3pts (Horry, Fisher and Shaw, where you at?). Last year only Bryant was still there. And George, who didnt play. Not enought to compare the two dynasties. Not to mention Phil Jackson. But lol, y'all still continue to make those dumb statements.
Matter of fact Lakers lost when they cutted/traded/didnt re-sign players like Horry, Fox and Shaw, who were highly underrated. Shaq with Malone and Payton didnt win the ring. FACT.
gotta agree with the fact they should re-sign Horry n Shaw (for his great chemistry with Oneal) but Fox ? nah his level game was pathetic in 2002
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1 kg
2 duncan
3 shaq
4 lebron
5 iverson
6 stoudamire
7 dirk
8 mc grady
9 steve nash
10 wade
honrable mention kobes ballhoggin ass
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1.iverson
2.lebron james
3.tim duncan
4.shaq.
5.kevin garnet
6.dwayne wade
7.kobe bryant
8.tracy mcgrady
9.steve nash
10.marbury
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J.Oneal is mad overrated
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^^^HAHAHAHA YEAH right
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Kobe is still the best all around player in the league , the only way this will change is if kobe shows up next year and plays half assed (which i doubt will happen) or if the government discovers how to transport people from the past to the present and gets Jordan and Magic in their prime in the NBA next season
Kobe= best player point blank period , no questions asked
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Becuz Shaq aint ther no more ;D
Shaq was there two years ago, and he was the main reason why Lakers didnt win the title. Because Brown chosed not to double him and he wasnt even able to put decent numbers against Ben Wallace. No. Shaq wasnt that dominant "alone". He's dominant, but he too needs a great supporting cast to win a title. Like Kobe. None in the League can win "alone". The 3peat team had players like Bryant, Horry, Fisher, Fox, Shaw, Harper, Grant, George, who all contribuited to make them Lakers the best team in the world. It was their defence, their 3pts (Horry, Fisher and Shaw, where you at?). Last year only Bryant was still there. And George, who didnt play. Not enought to compare the two dynasties. Not to mention Phil Jackson. But lol, y'all still continue to make those dumb statements.
Matter of fact Lakers lost when they cutted/traded/didnt re-sign players like Horry, Fox and Shaw, who were highly underrated. Shaq with Malone and Payton didnt win the ring. FACT.
ben wallace never shut down shaq, shaq and kobe were the only ones producing in the entire finals match up....shaq was putting up the same numbers
and even last season in the eastern finals the heat were rolling over the pistons and shaq kept calling out wallace.." if you're the leagues best defender , show me" the only reason why the heat lost was cuz wade went out and it was shaq vs the pistons.....there wasn't another significant scorer. every team that has won a championship needs that, that or an extraordinarily great defense
60's celtics had 3 significant scorers
show time - magic and kareem
chicago- jordan and pippen
spurs first two- the twin towers
last years spurs- 3 significant scorers
00's lakers- shaq and kobe
the bad boys- extraoridnary defense
mid 90's rockets-clyde and hakeem
70's lakers- west and chamberlin
80's celtics-3 significant scorers
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kg > kobe
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kg > kobe
^^ I agree Jamal.. KG has almost as many assists as Kobe LOL.. that alone should tell everything.
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^^^wow that's a great stat :o
let me give you a better stat.......KOBE,3 STRAIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!!!!!!!! :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:
NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP..YOU STUPID ASS IGNORENT HATERS!!!! :-X :-X :-X
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^^^HAHAHAHA YEAH right
homie your a Pacers fan. Your might be a little biased....put him in when the NBA was dominated by the 5 spot..Ewing,Olajuan,Mourning,O'neal,Robinson etc. my point would be quite obvious but since the NBA is quite lacking in talent at the center position at the moment hes hyped up to something hes not.
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Lol Kobes 1 of the best i8n the game, but the best in the game? Dunno about that. Shaqs more dominant but they both played equal parts in winning the 'ships. Kevin Garnett is one of the best 2 but he didnt have a good season and manu would make top 15 not 10
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lmao@Black Mask
dissin shaq but praisin kobe for 3 titles.. can it get more cynical?
Garnett is easily the most versitile player in the game.. aint no PF with more guard abilities.. like.. ever. Plus he gets rebounds like rodman. Fuckin athletic player too.
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Dont get it twisted Garnetts ability is why i qaint sayin nothin about bein no1 on that list, im just sayin that last season wasnt a good 1 for him. I didnt say kobe 1 those ships by him self either i said they played equal parts.
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I wasnt referring to you but to Black Mask and the whole board in general. You cool.
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My bad, u kool 2
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Relentless come on now Jermaine Oneal is so close to being as good as duncan and kg if he isnt there already, so hes not overhyped, if nething he is underated.
he is 27 and is getting better every year. first off forget about offense, he is a great shot blocker and great defender with his athleticsm compare his defense to a dirk or amare and its not even close.
now to his offense and rebounding he has averaged 20 and 10 the last 4 straight years, last year he averaged 24PPG, 9 RPB, 2BLP, how many players do that?? plus he was playing injured all year. he has a great mid range shot and a great low post game.
just watch all year next season and it will be obvious to see that he is one of the best 5-8 OVERALL players in the league
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When did i say shaq had nothing to do with the 3 championships?..it's fags like you who take away from kobe's hard work & say "he had nothing to do with the championships".WTF is that?..fucking haters...
we're talking about kobe..there for i brought up the championships..i didn't say shit about shaq had nothing to do with it..
i've always said it took a team effort as for every championship in sports history
When shaq sign to the lakers i thought was the best thing ever but then the honey moon died after 2 years..
playoffs
1997-we lose to the jazz 4-1 shaq plays no defence
1998- 4-0 same shit with shaq
then everyone in L.A wa looking for the guy that was going to help out shaq..@ the time kobe was a young kid who didn't know how to play with shaq & was selfish
then kobe became the starter in 1999 & we advance to the WCF but kobe playd selfish again but @ least we advance with kobe as the starter
then phil sign with the lakers & tought kobe how to be a team player & how to play with shaq & it was all over...3 straight championships 4 final appearances in 5 years
so it wasn't all shaq..he needed help...so don't say kobe had nothing to do with the championships & shaq is the main reason for the champiomships :psych: