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Title: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: M Dogg™ on August 22, 2005, 04:45:12 PM
5. Ice Cube

(http://www.sohh.by.ru/pic/50mc/10icecube.jpg)

Strongest album: AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted

The first rapper to be the most respected on both coast, the main rapper in the most controversial group of all time, N.W.A., the first rapper on the westcoast you can ever call King, and in his prime one of the most revolutionary and straight up hardcore rappers you'll ever hear. His the Don Mega, Ice Cube. When Eazy-E started N.W.A., he recruited Ice Cube as his main rapper, Dr. Dre to provide the beats and Arabian Prince to add the commercial appeal. What you had was the beginnings of not a group, but a movement. Arabian Prince trickled out, Dre talked Eazy into rapping with Ice Cube ghostwriting, MC Ren kicked his way in, and Ice Cube pissed people off with his verses on songs like Dopeman, Gangsta Gangsta, and Fuck the Police. But Cube seeing his contract ripping him off, decided to change labels, and since he didn't have Dre, he got the next best thing, the Bomb Squad. Something about the most controversial rapper on the westcoast hooking up with Public Enemy and their producers seemed so right. AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted was released and a new single star was born. N.W.A. dissed Ice Cube to try to take back their thunder, and what they got back was No Vaseline, Ice Cube introduced the Lynch Mob, and he became the Nigga That You Love To Hate. Cube's skills are above average, but his voice pushes his raw lyrics into your head and makes you feel how powerful words can be. He message was something never heard before, as he mixed the street stories with political messages, and he is the rapper that most westcoast artist design their blueprint after. Since Cube, many westcoast artist use rap as a way to express street lyrics with a social political message. Cube was the original king of the westcoast, and is one of the greatest rappers to ever touch the mic.

4. Notorious B.I.G.

(http://www.uk-flava.com/news/Live/articlefiles/162-Biggie_Smalls.gif)

Strongest album: Ready to Die

Biggie Smalls was one of the illest rappers to ever come out of Brooklyn, and he is the legend that many in New York will always compare each and every artist too. His skillz were as good as any other emcee in the history of rap, and he flow was so smooth that even the most diehard 2Pac fan has caught themselves rapping to Who Shot You? Though that horrible night on March 9th will always be remembered, and to some hurt Biggie's legacy, this is about the great career of Big Poppa. Biggie had New York believing again. Nas, Wu Tang, they all came out, but it was Biggie that New York embraced. The self proclaimed King of NY, the rapping Frank White became just that when Ready to Die dropped, and he laced verses on many other projects in New York. Biggies skillz were unmatched in 1996, when his battle with 2Pac hit it's peak. With Nas dropping It Was Written, which was a great album, but not up to Biggie's skillz, there was no question who was on top of NY. He then recorded Life After Death, and with the death of 2Pac in 1996, Biggie had much to talk about. Biggie's skillz seemed to be at his best, and his flow seemed to find it's self as each track was released since his career started. Life After Death was to finally hear Biggie be completely the rapper he was maturing to be. Though it's not a perfect classic that some say, he did release more classic tracks in that one album than most artist would ever in their career. With a career that was too short, you have to judge Biggie on what we had, and Biggie only left two of the greatest albums ever. With that, Big Poppa will always be seen as the King of New York to many people who remember the late great.

Top 25 MCs:

25. Common
24. Run
23. MC Ren
22. Big Pun
21. Lauryn Hill
20. Andre 3000
19. Eminem
18. Chuck D
17. Kurtis Blow
16. Snoop Dogg
15. The DOC
14. LL Cool J
13. Grandmaster Caz
12. Slick Rick
11. Kool G Rap
10. Jay-Z
9. Melle Mel
8. KRS-One
7. Big Daddy Kane
6. Scarface
5. Ice Cube
4. Notorious Big
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 22, 2005, 04:50:33 PM
Nice, both are top ten MCs for sure.
My guess for the rest...3. Nas 2. Pac 1. Ra
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 22, 2005, 05:08:22 PM
i think dis nigga gone make pac # 1
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on August 22, 2005, 05:34:26 PM
i think dis nigga gone make pac # 1
Na he alredy said PAc ain't gonna be #1.

Anyways I would have put Cube 4 & Biggie 5. I just like his raw voice and I like his lyrics a little better.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: makaveli11 on August 22, 2005, 05:49:44 PM
I would have definitely put ice cube over biggie for sure and I would say cube's strongest album without a doubt is death certificate.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: big mat on August 22, 2005, 07:36:18 PM
pac is fucking #1
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on August 22, 2005, 07:37:23 PM
pac is fucking #1

I agree 8)
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Mac 10 † on August 22, 2005, 07:56:00 PM
great spot for biggie
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Wicked977 on August 22, 2005, 09:18:16 PM
pac is fucking #1

I agree 8)
Nah Ain't nobody Fucking Wit Rakim  ;)
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 23, 2005, 12:01:02 AM
ya rakim is #1 but when u talkin bout mc's not artists den kool g rap is ranked 2 low hes top5 on da mic eazy
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: ImmortalOne on August 23, 2005, 12:05:56 AM
As an overall artist Pac is easily tops....here, I tend to agree with Knuckles prediction (wow, we agree on something!!).....

#3 will be Nas, Pac will be #2, and Rakim will get the top spot.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: JMan on August 23, 2005, 12:11:10 AM
real dope countdown....  8) Props
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on August 23, 2005, 12:15:30 AM
As an overall artist Pac is easily tops....here, I tend to agree with Knuckles prediction (wow, we agree on something!!).....

#3 will be Nas, Pac will be #2, and Rakim will get the top spot.

Yeah he is one of the few complete artists.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: ImmortalOne on August 23, 2005, 12:34:00 AM
As an overall artist Pac is easily tops....here, I tend to agree with Knuckles prediction (wow, we agree on something!!).....

#3 will be Nas, Pac will be #2, and Rakim will get the top spot.

Yeah he is one of the few complete artists.

Which is one reason why he is GOAT in my book  ;). Pac was just that dude. Great presence/energy on the mic, variety of topics in his songs, solid (though not great) flow, extremely prolific as a songwriter, charismatic personality, and an outstanding discography make him the most complete MC ever.

He wasnt the greatest freestyler or wordsmith, but his content and emotion far outweighed that weakness.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on August 23, 2005, 12:41:39 AM
As an overall artist Pac is easily tops....here, I tend to agree with Knuckles prediction (wow, we agree on something!!).....

#3 will be Nas, Pac will be #2, and Rakim will get the top spot.

Yeah he is one of the few complete artists.

Which is one reason why he is GOAT in my book  ;). Pac was just that dude. Great presence/energy on the mic, variety of topics in his songs, solid (though not great) flow, extremely prolific as a songwriter, charismatic personality, and an outstanding discography make him the most complete MC ever.

He wasnt the greatest freestyler or wordsmith, but his content and emotion far outweighed that weakness.

The 2 things that makes me say he is the greatest is his emotions on the mic. No one put so much into their music than him. And like you said variety of topics, he didn't stick 2 one or two subjects in his song writing.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: ImmortalOne on August 23, 2005, 12:57:45 AM
I just noticed, we got a similiar avatar, lol......except yours is from Hit Em Up and mines from Made Niggaz.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Black Uhuru on August 23, 2005, 02:47:55 AM
If we talking Mc's not artists then Pac wouldnt be in my top 3
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Paul on August 23, 2005, 05:51:38 AM
i think daz should be 1#
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: 7even on August 23, 2005, 05:57:04 AM
If we talking Mc's not artists then Pac wouldnt be in my top 3


2pac has the best delivery in rap, you cant take that from him.

his charisma and tragic death of course don't hurt him when it comes to best ever lists
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: wcsoldier on August 23, 2005, 06:14:23 AM
No Big L and No GZA on this list . Sorry but can't take it seriously
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: JMan on August 23, 2005, 06:19:31 AM
Yeah Big L is dope... so underated even though he had a real dope flow... Lifestylez of tha poor and dangerous was a very good album.. songs like "put it on me", "mvp" and "lifestyle of tha poor & dangerous" show how good he was...
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: wcsoldier on August 23, 2005, 06:25:00 AM
Yeah Big L is dope... so underated even though he had a real dope flow... Lifestylez of tha poor and dangerous was a very good album.. songs like "put it on me", "mvp" and "lifestyle of tha poor & dangerous" show how good he was...
yep he had really dope metaphors , too bad he left so early. BIG L N GZA skills >>>>> half on mcs on the list ones
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Machiavelli on August 23, 2005, 09:07:22 AM
Biggie after Jay-Z is the second most overatted rapper ever. Yeah he was good, probably top 25 but not close to being top 5.
Title: Re: The 25 Greatest MCs of All Time... 5 and 4
Post by: Da Flamboyant 1 on August 23, 2005, 01:12:45 PM
Yeah Big L is dope... so underated even though he had a real dope flow... Lifestylez of tha poor and dangerous was a very good album.. songs like "put it on me", "mvp" and "lifestyle of tha poor & dangerous" show how good he was...

flamboyant