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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 19, 2005, 03:14:46 AM
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HA! Lakers have a better winning %...Celtics have 10 more wins then us but they have 2 more season under their belt (celtics started in 1946...Lakers 1948)
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Why are you even wasting your time with those stats? Lakers are the best franchise in sports history. Period.
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Honestly, there's no need for this really...Laker haters will just say anything to add to their arguement. I think it's pretty obvious that the Lakers are by far the biggest and most succesful franchise in basketball history...PeACe
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Why are you even wasting your time with those stats? Lakers are the best franchise in sports history. Period.
I'm sorry, Yankees(MLB) are. THen after them its the Montreal Canadians (NHL). If we're talking about North American sports.
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Montreal Canadians (NHL).
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO.
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The only reason why the Lakers have a better winning percentage is they havent been around and played as much as the Celtics have. Plus the Celtics have won 2 more championship titles than the Lakers and have the most playoff wins. Me being a Laker hater doesn't have anything to do with what im saying.The facts are the facts. 8)
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Montreal Canadians (NHL).
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO.
24 championships...whats funny about that?
Oh, my Green Bay packers have 12 NFL Championships (three superbowls), the most in the NFL history (then comes the Bears with 9 and Giants with 6). Also the only NFL team to win three straight titles TWICE.
So Yankees, Lakers, Canadians, Packers, Celtics....those teams have a history of winning.
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This is fucking stupid. Seriously, two great franchises why even argue whos better just leave it at that. Who has more titles, the Celtics. Who has been more consistent in winning, the Lakers. Who has contributed more to the game of basketball, DOES IT MATTER? No it doesnt.
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I guess I really upset the Laker Girls here. LOL. Truth hurts...
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Montreal Canadians (NHL).
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO.
24 championships...whats funny about that?
It's not funny, but claiming that the Canadians are a bigger franchise than the Lakers is fucking hilarious...
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What's up with Latrell Sprewell? Is he still signing?
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Montreal Canadians (NHL).
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO.
24 championships...whats funny about that?
It's not funny, but claiming that the Canadians are a bigger franchise than the Lakers is fucking hilarious...
There you go reading shit wrong lol. Antoino said that the lakers are the best franchise in sports history. If we're talking about successful franchises, then Yankees and the Canadians are way ahead. I never said the Canadians were "bigger". We all know americans don't enjoy hockey that much (even though there are 24 US hockey teams).
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Why are you even wasting your time with those stats? Lakers are the best franchise in sports history. Period.
I'm sorry, Yankees(MLB) are. THen after them its the Montreal Canadians (NHL). If we're talking about North American sports.
Maybe i used a wrong word. I mean Lakers are the most popular worldwide respected franchise in sports. Yankees and Canadians for sure are two teams with an history of wins, like the Lakers and the Celtics, but when it comes to popularity, 90% of the people outside America doesnt even know them, cause hockey and baseball are not popular here. Basket is. Everybody knows Jordan, i mean everybody in the world. Everybody knows Chicago Bulls. Everybody knows Boston Celtics. Everybody knows Los Angeles Lakers. But the Lakers, instead of the other two teams, are more consistant in winning. From the West era to the Magic era to the Shaq-Kobe era. When you say Lakers, you say wins. Plus look at the tv share, and everything. Lakers are the most loved/hated team in NBA history. That sums it all.
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Why are you even wasting your time with those stats? Lakers are the best franchise in sports history. Period.
I'm sorry, Yankees(MLB) are. THen after them its the Montreal Canadians (NHL). If we're talking about North American sports.
Maybe i used a wrong word. I mean Lakers are the most popular worldwide respected franchise in sports. Yankees and Canadians for sure are two teams with an history of wins, like the Lakers and the Celtics, but when it comes to popularity, 90% of the people outside America doesnt even know them, cause hockey and baseball are not popular here. Basket is. Everybody knows Jordan, i mean everybody in the world. Everybody knows Chicago Bulls. Everybody knows Boston Celtics. Everybody knows Los Angeles Lakers. But the Lakers, instead of the other two teams, are more consistant in winning. From the West era to the Magic era to the Shaq-Kobe era. When you say Lakers, you say wins. Plus look at the tv share, and everything. Lakers are the most loved/hated team in NBA history. That sums it all.
Yea I agree with some of your points. But sayin Lakers are the most popular worldwide respected franchise is a big statement. I ain't sayin thats right or wrong becuase I havn't done a survey of everyone in the world. But wow. I think a soccer team would have that title.
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In general, the name Lakers just means more than the name Canadians or the name Celtics...
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Why are you even wasting your time with those stats? Lakers are the best franchise in sports history. Period.
I'm sorry, Yankees(MLB) are. THen after them its the Montreal Canadians (NHL). If we're talking about North American sports.
Maybe i used a wrong word. I mean Lakers are the most popular worldwide respected franchise in sports. Yankees and Canadians for sure are two teams with an history of wins, like the Lakers and the Celtics, but when it comes to popularity, 90% of the people outside America doesnt even know them, cause hockey and baseball are not popular here. Basket is. Everybody knows Jordan, i mean everybody in the world. Everybody knows Chicago Bulls. Everybody knows Boston Celtics. Everybody knows Los Angeles Lakers. But the Lakers, instead of the other two teams, are more consistant in winning. From the West era to the Magic era to the Shaq-Kobe era. When you say Lakers, you say wins. Plus look at the tv share, and everything. Lakers are the most loved/hated team in NBA history. That sums it all.
Yea I agree with some of your points. But sayin Lakers are the most popular worldwide respected franchise is a big statement. I ain't sayin thats right or wrong becuase I havn't done a survey of everyone in the world. But wow. I think a soccer team would have that title.
they did a survey on that a couple of years ago and Real Madrid and Machester United were the 2 biggest sport franchises in the world. the Lakers and Yankes was 3 and 4 but i donīt know in donīt which team was 3 or 4. only reason Man Utd and Real are bigger is coz soccer is the biggest sport on all continents except for North America and the Asia market brings in incredible amounts of money and both Real and Man Utd got the Asia market on smash coz of David Beckham.
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Yeah, maybe Real and United ownes the crown, but still Lakers are up there in the 3rd place, as the U.S. franchise team most popular in the world and, no doubt about it, the most popular NBA team in the world.
Lakers are more popular than Celtics.
Lakers have a best market than Celtics.
Lakers have more fans than Celtics.
Lakers have more % victories than Celtics.
Lakers have the best players.
Lakers have win multiple titles in multiple era's.
Or, to sum it up, Lakers > Celtics.
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Yeah, maybe Real and United ownes the crown, but still Lakers are up there in the 3rd place, as the U.S. franchise team most popular in the world and, no doubt about it, the most popular NBA team in the world.
Lakers are more popular than Celtics.
Lakers have a best market than Celtics.
Lakers have more fans than Celtics.
Lakers have more % victories than Celtics.
Lakers have the best players.
Lakers have win multiple titles in multiple era's.
Or, to sum it up, Lakers > Celtics.
Who says you gotta have a good market to have a good team? thats practically cheating. The Quakers have more fans than the celtics because they come from a much larger city. Like I said before Lakers have more of a percentage because they haven't been around as long as the Celtics have, and the players the lakers have now can't even help the team go to the playoffs Kobe Bryant is the only descent player they have now but he blows it by screwing his team over somehow every season. Popularity doesn't say much about skills either.
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I guess I really upset the Laker Girls here. LOL. Truth hurts...
::)...Just trying to prove a point buddy...Don't be mad i did my HW and you didn't..you got schooled again! :D
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Kobe Bryant is the only descent player they have now but he blows it by screwing his team over somehow every season.
:loco: :grumpy:.....you're a moron
and fuck hockey..that shit don't count..arn't they still on strike ???...and soccer also doesn't count...no one gives a shit about those 2 sports
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Yeah, maybe Real and United ownes the crown, but still Lakers are up there in the 3rd place, as the U.S. franchise team most popular in the world and, no doubt about it, the most popular NBA team in the world.
Lakers are more popular than Celtics.
Lakers have a best market than Celtics.
Lakers have more fans than Celtics.
Lakers have more % victories than Celtics.
Lakers have the best players.
Lakers have win multiple titles in multiple era's.
Or, to sum it up, Lakers > Celtics.
Who says you gotta have a good market to have a good team? thats practically cheating. The Quakers have more fans than the celtics because they come from a much larger city. Like I said before Lakers have more of a percentage because they haven't been around as long as the Celtics have, and the players the lakers have now can't even help the team go to the playoffs Kobe Bryant is the only descent player they have now but he blows it by screwing his team over somehow every season. Popularity doesn't say much about skills either.
LMAO...Did you just call Kobe decent? Wait, it wasn't even decent, it was "descent"... :-X
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::)...Just trying to prove a point buddy...Don't be mad i did my HW and you didn't..you got schooled again! :D
LMAO. You did your HW after you were schooled earlier but you still haven't said shit. You're simply just hurt...
Like I said: Fuck a Regular season record if you ain't got a Championship to back it up.
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Like I said: Fuck a Regular season record if you ain't got a Championship to back it up.
take heed Clipper fans
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::)...Just trying to prove a point buddy...Don't be mad i did my HW and you didn't..you got schooled again! :D
LMAO. You did your HW after you were schooled earlier but you still haven't said shit. You're simply just hurt...
Like I said: Fuck a Regular season record if you ain't got a Championship to back it up.
no..you were schooled..i just gave you more evidence we're better then the Celtics...
And we do got championships to back it up,you moron.......you're just a nother faggot clipper fan anyway
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no..you were schooled..i just gave you more evidence we're better then the Celtics...
And we do got championships to back it up,you moron.......you're just a nother faggot clipper fan anyway
LMAO. You're like a little kid. That ain't evidence. Cuz, Celtics still got more titles. You ain't nothing but a Cheerleader homegirl. Pull your skirt down already and go sit on Jack Nicholson's lap.
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This is fucking stupid. Seriously, two great franchises why even argue whos better just leave it at that. Who has more titles, the Celtics. Who has been more consistent in winning, the Lakers. Who has contributed more to the game of basketball, DOES IT MATTER? No it doesnt.
You forgot, this guy has a Kobe poster above his bed and some old cum stained Kobe bedsheets to go with it... :loser:
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Kobe Bryant is the only descent player they have now but he blows it by screwing his team over somehow every season.
and fuck hockey..that shit don't count..arn't they still on strike ???...and soccer also doesn't count...no one gives a shit about those 2 sports
LMAO. This kid can't be serious?
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Well if you see if from a worldwide prospective..
Soccer > Basket > Hockey > Football > Baseball.
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Well if you see if from a worldwide prospective..
Soccer > Basket > Hockey > Football > Baseball.
Well, according to the retarded 8 year-old...no one gives a shit about soccer.
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Well if you see if from a worldwide prospective..
Soccer > Basket > Hockey > Football > Baseball.
Well, according to the retarded 8 year-old...no one gives a shit about soccer.
Kobe doesnt play soccer though...so why should it matter to anyone?! ::)
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Well if you see if from a worldwide prospective..
Soccer > Basket > Hockey > Football > Baseball.
Well, according to the retarded 8 year-old...no one gives a shit about soccer.
Kobe doesnt play soccer though...so why should it matter to anyone?! ::)
Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
P.S. Kobe played soccer where he was a kid. Here in Italy.
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Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
P.S. Kobe played soccer where he was a kid. Here in Italy.
IF the Lakers never had Magic...
IF the Lakers never had Wilt...
IF the Lakers never...
IF's are meaninless.
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Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
P.S. Kobe played soccer where he was a kid. Here in Italy.
IF the Lakers never had Magic...
IF the Lakers never had Wilt...
IF the Lakers never...
IF's are meaninless.
Ok. 3rd most popular team in the world after Real and UTD. Done deal! Now shut up. ::)
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Ok. 3rd most popular team in the world after Real and UTD. Done deal! Now shut up. ::)
Don't be mad at me cuz you're sitting here trying to make a point with "What If's."
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I already made a point, man.
LAKERS > Celtics > Clippers.
You are just spamming.
Face it.
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I already made a point, man.
LAKERS > Celtics > Clippers.
You are just spamming.
Face it.
Then stick to that point and don't try proving something with What If's... Thank you.
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Well if you see if from a worldwide prospective..
Soccer > Basket > Hockey > Football > Baseball.
Well, according to the retarded 8 year-old...no one gives a shit about soccer.
Kobe doesnt play soccer though...so why should it matter to anyone?! ::)
Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
P.S. Kobe played soccer where he was a kid. Here in Italy.
"Go Kobe!!! We Love you!!!!" lol
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Sonned.
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Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
Actually, no one knows for sure who is bigger. Yankees or Lakers. Yankees are known in asia aswell as south america.I'm not dissing the Lakers here, but if you can find a article saying Lakers are bigger than the Yankees, then i'll shut up.
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Ok. If you cut soccer then Lakers are the #1 sports team in the world. Happy?
Actually, no one knows for sure who is bigger. Yankees or Lakers. Yankees are known in asia aswell as south america.I'm not dissing the Lakers here, but if you can find a article saying Lakers are bigger than the Yankees, then i'll shut up.
BY TIM COWLISHAW
The Dallas Morning News
DALLAS - (KRT) - It is a painful admission for someone who adored the Boston Celtics as a burr-headed youth, but it's a fact. The Los Angeles Lakers are the biggest show in sports.
Bigger than "America's Team" right over there in Irving because the NFL doesn't need a successful team in Dallas or New York or Chicago or any other market to survive. The highest-rated Super Bowl ever was San Francisco-Cincinnati.
Bigger than the Celtics even with fewer titles, because Boston achieved 11 of its 16 during the remarkable Bill Russell era. For many of those seasons, there were eight teams in the league. Now there are 16 in the playoffs, which has made sustaining championship runs that much more difficult.
Yet the Lakers have managed to stay at or near the top for around 30 years, winning nine championships since 1972.
And, yes, even bigger than the big bad Yankees. That's the only team that really even competes with the Lakers in terms of sustained greatness, dominance, personality, image and tradition.
And in the end, as all of us NBA conspiracy theorists understand, the Lakers always win.
Derek Fisher wins a key game, getting a shot off in .4 seconds. Karl Malone doesn't get a suspension for ramming an elbow into Darrick Martin. There's never a shortage of evidence, for the conspiracy-minded, that something is watching over LA.
Now just how can anyone in their right mind think any team could be bigger than the 26-time world champion A-Rod-loaded Yankees? Well, the "right mind" part has been questioned before, but let's examine the facts.
In terms of performance over a century, yes, the Yankees win. But the NBA didn't even exist until after World War II, so there's no way the Lakers could match that.
The Lakers were the original dynasty in the NBA, winning five titles in Minneapolis before shifting to Los Angeles. Since World War II, it's Yankees 16, Lakers 14.
To a more current generation, since the `70s, it's Lakers 9, Yankees 6.
A case can be made that when their careers are over, Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant will join Wilt Chamberlain, Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on the list of the 10 best players in NBA history. I recognize that Wilt was near the end of his career as Laker, but he did help Jerry West and Elgin Baylor capture a championship there.
And toss in West and Baylor, and LA may claim seven of the top 20 players in league history.
In terms of great Hall of Fame players, the Yankees can go head-to-head with this list, starting with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig and continuing through generations with Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle, Yogi Berra, Reggie Jackson and, when he is finished, Alex Rodriguez.
There is a noteworthy lack of truly "great" pitchers in the Yankees' history book. It would be hard to press a case for any of their best pitchers having a place in the all-time top 10, except for Roger Clemens. He, like Chamberlain, spent the best parts of his career elsewhere.
The real question is: Do the Yankees mean to baseball what the Lakers mean to the NBA?
"The Lakers' success, visibility and infamy are all great for the NBA," Mavs owner Mark Cuban said via e-mail. "If the Mavs don't win, I put my NBA hat on and there is no question that the Lakers (possibly) making it to the NBA Finals is better for business."
The Lakers exert a much stronger pull on the TV ratings than the Yankees. When Los Angeles beat Philadelphia in 2001, they had a 12.1 average rating. They had a 10.2 a year later when the Lakers beat New Jersey.
When the Spurs beat New Jersey in 2003, the rating was a 6.5.
The Yankees and Arizona staged a classic seven-game series in 2001 to draw a 15.7 World Series rating. That tumbled 24 percent to an 11.9 when Anaheim played San Francisco, but the return of the Yankees to the Series last year to face Florida drew only a 12.8 - about eight percent better than the lowest-rated Series ever.
The difference may just be that the Lakers pack more star power. Shaq is a star of greater magnitude than A-Rod. Kobe, before his sexual assault charge, was becoming as marketable as Michael Jordan.
Even with the cloud of suspicion over him, Kobe maintains (rightly or wrongly) a bigger-than-life quality that is greater than whatever Derek Jeter brings to the New York tabloids.
The Yankees' century in New York beats what any American pro sports team has to offer. It's a modern world. People have slightly shorter memories than that.
The Lakers are No. 1. And if anyone says they aren't, surely the NBA can fix it to prove otherwise
Yankees jumped out early, but Lakers have passed them (http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/8792457.htm?1c)
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Sonned.
not really. like i said, its like arguing with a religious freak and trying to use facts against them...while they hold onto belief.
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lol com on NIK that was written when Shaq was still with the Lakers.
While the Lakers have kobe
The Yankees have A Rod, Jeter, Sheffield, Giambi and Randy Johnson
The Red Sox have Johnny Damon, David Ortiz, and Manny Ramirez
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Sonned.
not really. like i said, its like arguing with a religious freak and trying to use facts against them...while they hold onto belief.
I ain't biased, man. Lakers are no doubt the most popular team in the NBA. It's a fact. I aint neglecting the truth. About the rest of the world, they are most popular basketball team in the world: you could still say hockey teams or soccer teams are more popular than them, but it's like comparing popatoes with tomatoes! STILL the Lakers are the most popular team in the NBA. And STILL Lakers > Celtics. Nobody can neglect those FACTS.
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lol com on NIK that was written when Shaq was still with the Lakers.
While the Lakers have kobe
The Yankees have A Rod, Jeter, Sheffield, Giambi and Randy Johnson
The Red Sox have Johnny Damon, David Ortiz, and Manny Ramirez
And do you honestly think a common man from Europe knows them? I dont have a clue who they are, lol. And like me, 99.9% of the Europeans doesnt know who the fuck Damon or Ortiz are!! FACE IT. The world is bigger than the United States.
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Yeah sorry. I forgot that everybody in Europe knows Odum
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Yeah sorry. I forgot that everybody in Europe knows Odum
Nobody does. But the brightest stars in NBA shits all over the brightest stars in NHL, MLB and NFL. No contest.
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Ok. 3rd most popular team in the world after Real and UTD. Done deal! Now shut up. ::)
Don't be mad at me cuz you're sitting here trying to make a point with "What If's."
isnt that a 112 song???
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That is thanks to the sport of basketball, not the actual star power the players bring
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That is thanks to the sport of basketball, not the actual star power the players bring
Yes. It was different with Jordan tho', he alone was better than NBA. lol.
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Sonned.
not really. like i said, its like arguing with a religious freak and trying to use facts against them...while they hold onto belief.
I ain't biased, man. Lakers are no doubt the most popular team in the NBA. It's a fact. I aint neglecting the truth. About the rest of the world, they are most popular basketball team in the world: you could still say hockey teams or soccer teams are more popular than them, but it's like comparing popatoes with tomatoes! STILL the Lakers are the most popular team in the NBA. And STILL Lakers > Celtics. Nobody can neglect those FACTS.
thing is, ive never argued if they are the most popular team...and really dont care. Since when does popularity have ANYthing to do with how good they are? Even in your argument of the Lakers being the better franchise then the Celtics, im sure youd say the Celtics are the second best then...right? Well, the Celtics arent anywhere close to the second most popular franchise in basketball. So you see, popularity does not equail quality. In Football....the Raiders, Cowboys, etc...are probably the most popular franchises. Are they the best in the league? No. Im a Raider fan, and i can say that. Its about being realistic rather then SIMPLY a believer.
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lol com on NIK that was written when Shaq was still with the Lakers.
While the Lakers have kobe
The Yankees have A Rod, Jeter, Sheffield, Giambi and Randy Johnson
The Red Sox have Johnny Damon, David Ortiz, and Manny Ramirez
And do you honestly think a common man from Europe knows them? I dont have a clue who they are, lol. And like me, 99.9% of the Europeans doesnt know who the fuck Damon or Ortiz are!! FACE IT. The world is bigger than the United States.
exactly! you dont get the same coverage on these sports that we do...including basketball. Youre arguing blind...like i said.
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That is thanks to the sport of basketball, not the actual star power the players bring
seriously, if it was the star power of the athletes...then boxing would be the biggest draw around the world given Ali is by FAR the most popular athlete there ever was.
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I aint neglecting it. I'm saying Lakers is the best franchise in the NBA history PLUS it's the most popular one.
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I aint neglecting it. I'm saying Lakers is the best franchise in the NBA history PLUS it's the most popular one.
lol, now just in the NBA history? Well, we're making progress.
ANd Nik, i've read that one already.
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I aint neglecting it. I'm saying Lakers is the best franchise in the NBA history PLUS it's the most popular one.
popular, yes...best...im not sure. obviously its between the Lakers and the Celtics. My point is, the Cowboys are possibly the most popular football team in the NFL. They have a storied past, like a lot of other teams. But...what does that mean this year? Nothing. What will it mean next year if they dont win? Nothing. What will popularity contribute to them winning the Superbowl in the next couple of years? Nothing. You see?
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Yes, i do. But the topic was called "Celtics vs Lakers", not "Heat vs Spurs". So.. we gotta talk about the past.