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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: 4 KiN L on April 28, 2002, 05:20:10 AM
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this song from dre, i saw an ad on tele tha otha day about sum album with oldiez on it and one of the songs had exactly the same beat as dre's xxplosive, what was the sample song for this cos the beat has been virtually unchanged?
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Erika Badu had a song off of her last album "Mama's Gun" that just stole the "Xxplosive" beat.
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Erika Badu had a song off of her last album "Mama's Gun" that just stole the "Xxplosive" beat.
stole? if that's how u feel then dre 'stole' the beat off a very old song...the song i am talkin about aint no recent shit...it is sum pop classic or sum shit...
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plus it wasnt stolen. dre is credited.
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yes he is. erykah loved xxplosive so much she used it herself.
the song it samples/interpolates is called 'bumpys lament' by isaac hayes
incognito is being very hypocritical as usuall.. will u ever get off Dre's nutz?
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Yup yup, she did indeed use Dre's "Xxplosive" beat. I actually have the song, it's called "Bag Lady" & it's a pretty dope interpolation.
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Yup yup, she did indeed use Dre's "Xxplosive" beat. I actually have the song, it's called "Bag Lady" & it's a pretty dope interpolation.
its not Dre's beat
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its not Dre's beat
exactly the point of the thread...i was tryna find out who's beat it was originally...
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exactly the point of the thread...i was tryna find out who's beat it was originally...
yea i know, i was just tellin 704D
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....thats just the way i be pimpin!!! ;D
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....thats just the way i be pimpin!!! ;D
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yo kill that pic man.. its fucking hugeeeeee!
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yo kill that pic man.. its fucking hugeeeeee!
check out King Suge's topic, he makes some good points
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its not Dre's beat
Hmm, strange how he's actually credited for it in her song....
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I think that the beat comes from Mobb Deep's "back at U"
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Surely if the beat she used, or should I say interperated, for "Bag Lady" wasn't originally by Dre she wouldn't of credited him & would of credited the original musician/producer/preformer. But is this song the actual song 4 KiN L is talking about anyways ???
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it was already stated who he sampled it from
and dre told peeps he sampled xxplosive... but the song is
bumpy's lament by isaac hayes
so there u have it
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one more point of interested for those of you bent on dre hating..
check xxplosive, and then check bumpy's lament i bet you cant even find where dre sampled it
sooo just for all u out there... when erykah badu used the same beat she did SAMPLE dre more so than she sampled Issac hayes
dre took hayes' beat and got real creative with it, then badu just used what dre had made...
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its not strictly a sample, its an interpolation.
i heard that its actually a sample of a cover by someone.
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I knew "Bag Lady" contained elements (not samples) of "Bumpy's Lament", but as I don't actually know what "Bumpy's Lament" sounds like I can't tell whether Dre did infact use elements also. But I guess I was nieve in thinking just because Dre didn't credit anyone that it was one of HIS more original creations. I wish he would just bloody credit everyone for the sake of discussions like this! ;D But "Xxplosive" is still a Dre (& Mel Man) beat, no matter what, he still produced it, samples or not.
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incognito is being very hypocritical as usuall.. will u ever get off Dre's nutz?
Wow dude, calm down. That time of the month for you.
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dre took hayes' beat and got real creative with it
Yeah, Dre took barely a bar of Bumpy's Lament and chopped it up. If you wanna compare, I think Lil' Kim just straight looped the beat on DRUGS, but uh... don't tell anyone I knew that. ;) Anyway, to clear up where it's from , it's off the Shaft soundtrack.
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Also, the beat that Badi sings over is exact to "Xxplosive," she took it from Dre even though he sampled it, cause she credits him on the album.
How does the beat sound in comparison to the one that it got sampled from?
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No i know for a fact that it is a very old song...and next time i see the ad i am gonna get that songz title and prove the fuckin lot of u rong...
the beat is exactly the same but dre's sounds fresher, remastered in a sense but it is exactly the same. if dre polished the beat up and sum cunt used the polished beat then they have 2 credit dre anyways...but i know for a fuckin fact this aint a dre beat...
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Also, the beat that Badi sings over is exact to "Xxplosive," she took it from Dre even though he sampled it, cause she credits him on the album.
How does the beat sound in comparison to the one that it got sampled from?
Its quite different, esp the higher pitch sounds.
Someone said a while back (on the now dead :( 'crates' mailing list) that Dre sampled a cover of the isaac hayes track.
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How does the beat sound in comparison to the one that it got sampled from?
exactly the fuckin same...
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no it isnt!!!!
its the same notes yes.. but its NOT a direct sample.
4 KIN L check your self - you obviously havent listened to it
I just checked the 'crates' list posts i have here and Dre sampled 'Soul Mann and the Brothers' version of the song.
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i think u got it there, the same notes....sounds exactly the same though...not a direst sample. i'll download the song and post it up sumwhere u ppl can see 4 urselves...
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yeah... the bassline is the same.
but the higher end stuff is played with some kind of organ in the original, the notes are a lot lot slower.
this 'soul mann and the brothers' version (i've never been able to find) allegedly plays them exactly as they are on Dre's (and therefore Erykah's) version.
dont know how much Dre/Mel etc have sped it up though.
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i'll c if i can get the sing then...
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that sucks. i always thought xxplosive was an original composition. the bassline is completely jacked and they just replayed the organ loop on a guitar.
Dre is dope and all, and I love what he does with his samples, but he should give credit in his album notes when it's necessary. especially when he was talking all that yap about how sampling is wack and played out.
BTW if you thought Lets Get High was an original beat too, check out Backstrokin by Fatback.
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that sucks. i always thought xxplosive was an original composition. the bassline is completely jacked and they just replayed the organ loop on a guitar.
Dre is dope and all, and I love what he does with his samples, but he should give credit in his album notes when it's necessary. especially when he was talking all that yap about how sampling is wack and played out.
BTW if you thought Lets Get High was an original beat too, check out Backstrokin by Fatback.
for fucks sake man i like that beat and it aint an original dre beat! but sampling is a part of makin music so it don't really botha me 2 much...