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Title: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 21, 2005, 10:35:32 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2002398938_kemp24.html


The roster is looking potntially more and more viscious every day...

Latrell Sprewell...Aaron McKie/Smush Parker/Sasha Vujacic/Will Conroy*
Kobe Bryant...Laron Profit/Tony Bobbit*/Von Wafer*
Lamar Odom...Devean George/Jumain Jones/Luke Walton
Kwame Brown...Shawn Kemp/Brian Cook/Slava Medvadenko/Ronny Turiaf*
Chris Mihm...Andrew Bynum

Coach: Phil Jackson

*=have possibility of playing for the Lakers NBDL team.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on September 21, 2005, 11:25:38 AM
Is it pretty much a done deal that the Lakers are going to get Latrell Sprewell??
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on September 21, 2005, 11:56:05 AM
Laterll hasn't signed yet. He wants to but i here its a really complicated situatiom.

Shawn Kemp? :eh: im not to sure about that














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Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 21, 2005, 12:01:46 PM
Shawn Kemp is 60, washed up and has retired like 2 years ago. He still has a contract with the Sonics, methinks, too.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Doggystylin on September 21, 2005, 12:05:40 PM
might as well get Patrick Ewing, Scottie Pippen, Penny Hardaway and Dennis Rodman while were at it, and hey why not bring back Payton, lets form a 90s all star team
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 21, 2005, 01:34:39 PM
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 21, 2005, 02:02:38 PM
Are you guys stupid? Shawn Kemp is only 35, he retired early because of the troublesome career he had. He's back in great shape and is planning to head back to the top and leave the NBA as one of the great superstars. Did anyone even read the fucking article?...He could be a great push off the bench for the Lakers, and an added big body to the big competition in the west...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 21, 2005, 02:04:49 PM
I don't know, it sounds interesting. He'll get a 1 year contract with the minimun anyway. Why not? If he's working so hard then he deserves a chance.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Skindiana bon3z on September 21, 2005, 02:49:45 PM
I'll take an aging Shawn Kemp over an aging Brian Grant anyday  8)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: WestCoasta on September 21, 2005, 04:54:21 PM
yea right..........  what is he, 45?  ::) :laugh:
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: PLANT on September 21, 2005, 05:46:14 PM
Shawn Kemp used to be my favorite player.  I remember my parents got me his jersey for my birthday when I was 10.  It was one of the best gifts ever.  Anyways, this thread inspired to post some pics and remember the player I used to love!

(http://images.wolfpk.com/reignman/sonics5_big.jpg)

(http://images.wolfpk.com/reignman/sonics1_big.jpg)

(http://images.wolfpk.com/reignman/sonics6_big.jpg)

(http://images.wolfpk.com/reignman/art7_big.jpg)

SICK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: herpes on September 21, 2005, 09:49:18 PM
LMAO... but if you sign him for a year for next to nothing what could it hurt.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 21, 2005, 10:12:24 PM
yea right..........  what is he, 45?  ::) :laugh:

Shawn Kemp is only 35
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: WeSTSidE_Don on September 21, 2005, 11:10:44 PM
Kemp is a bum... musta got out of detox or sumthin... mind you he fits in with the lakers
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 22, 2005, 06:14:03 AM
Are you guys stupid? Shawn Kemp is only 35, he retired early because of the troublesome career he had. He's back in great shape and is planning to head back to the top and leave the NBA as one of the great superstars. Did anyone even read the fucking article?...He could be a great push off the bench for the Lakers, and an added big body to the big competition in the west...PeACe

doubt he can lay down tha blunt and big macs long enough to last through a whole season...lol

However, they need help upfront. I dont know if Kemp is the guy tho
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 22, 2005, 09:21:38 AM
We are so desperate upfront that even Kemp could be a nice addiction, lol.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 22, 2005, 09:35:34 AM
(http://images.google.de/images?q=tbn:BqychjJ5sYsJ:ab-initio.mit.edu/~stevenj/Photos/Family/StC-Xmas-03/grandpa-johnson.jpg)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 22, 2005, 10:32:19 AM
Are you guys stupid? Shawn Kemp is only 35, he retired early because of the troublesome career he had. He's back in great shape and is planning to head back to the top and leave the NBA as one of the great superstars. Did anyone even read the fucking article?...He could be a great push off the bench for the Lakers, and an added big body to the big competition in the west...PeACe

doubt he can lay down tha blunt and big macs long enough to last through a whole season...lol

However, they need help upfront. I dont know if Kemp is the guy tho


Well, he's in GREAT shape now and that's what counts. If the Lakers somehow sign Spree and Kemp, there's no doubt in my mind that they will be contenders. If Shawn Kemp is half as willing to make a strong comeback as the article depicted, it would be enough. Hopefully The Reign Man can help bring back the reign to LA... 8)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Eddie G. on September 23, 2005, 01:26:17 PM
that was a damn interesting article on Shawn Kemp, you get a prop
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on September 23, 2005, 05:02:18 PM
Are you guys stupid? Shawn Kemp is only 35, he retired early because of the troublesome career he had. He's back in great shape and is planning to head back to the top and leave the NBA as one of the great superstars. Did anyone even read the fucking article?...He could be a great push off the bench for the Lakers, and an added big body to the big competition in the west...PeACe
Did you not see him in Orlando? He was crack free for two years or so and he played bad. I don't think you can be one of the best players in the NBA for around 8 years become a crackhead for another 8 years then comeback crack free and still play good.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 23, 2005, 05:07:21 PM
We are so desperate upfront that even Kemp could be a nice addiction, lol.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Prolific on September 23, 2005, 05:08:10 PM
Ya'll got high hopes saying Kemp can make a comeback...The boy was the shit early 90s all the way until the met the bulls in the finals..He had the knee injury after a dunk that next season and hasn't been the same since....I mean he right in Clevland/ Orlando he was slow and had no more game in him....His far past his prime and hes a no factor in the L
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TobyTizzle on September 24, 2005, 08:03:08 PM
With Kemp and Spree you become contenders? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 25, 2005, 01:15:23 AM
We are so desperate upfront that even Kemp could be a nice addiction, lol.

did u mean to say "addiction"? lol
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 25, 2005, 01:19:37 AM
not that i would ever make a habit of defendin scittles here...and not that i think Kemp is gonna turn in any all star showings, but look at LA and you got to admit he couldnt hurt the team. One thing you gotta remember, Kemp came strait outta highschool to the pros....and maybe their hoping Bynum can draw off of his experience in that situation, especially playing down low. If they get him for a bargain, why not try it? I dont see HIM "making u a contender", but like i said, you wont be any worse off. The biggest move LA can make is pickin up Spree regardless.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 10:10:13 AM
Are you guys stupid? Shawn Kemp is only 35, he retired early because of the troublesome career he had. He's back in great shape and is planning to head back to the top and leave the NBA as one of the great superstars. Did anyone even read the fucking article?...He could be a great push off the bench for the Lakers, and an added big body to the big competition in the west...PeACe
Did you not see him in Orlando? He was crack free for two years or so and he played bad. I don't think you can be one of the best players in the NBA for around 8 years become a crackhead for another 8 years then comeback crack free and still play good.



Once again, read the article before you comment...Shawn Kemp was playing out of shape in Orlando. He's back in great shape and is motivated to play his best...I believe it could work...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 10:12:20 AM
Ya'll got high hopes saying Kemp can make a comeback...The boy was the shit early 90s all the way until the met the bulls in the finals..He had the knee injury after a dunk that next season and hasn't been the same since....I mean he right in Clevland/ Orlando he was slow and had no more game in him....His far past his prime and hes a no factor in the L


Kemp played his best season in Cleveland...Don't get it twisted. He might be past his prime, but he can still be a help...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 10:13:34 AM
With Kemp and Spree you become contenders? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kemp and Spree alone don't make the Lakers contenders, but this line-up does...

Latrell Sprewell...Aaron McKie/Smush Parker/Sasha Vujacic/Will Conroy*
Kobe Bryant...Laron Profit/Tony Bobbit*/Von Wafer*
Lamar Odom...Devean George/Jumain Jones/Luke Walton
Kwame Brown...Shawn Kemp/Brian Cook/Slava Medvadenko/Ronny Turiaf*
Chris Mihm...Andrew Bynum

Coach: Phil Jackson


Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 10:49:34 AM
Not yet, homie. Not yet. But we could start a new page in our glorious history building the new team around Kobe, Brown, Odom and Bynum. With KG we're contenders, no doubt.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 11:04:33 AM
Phoenix were considered contenders last season. They had a great line-up, but they didn't have a bench, they didn't have the greatest coach of all time, they didn't have the best player in the league, and they didn't run a system nearly as effective as the triangle. The Laker line-up I posted, I believe, are good enough to be considered contenders. Think about it Sprewell, Kobe, Odom. 3 All-Star caliber players under Phil Jackson will NOT fail to contend...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 26, 2005, 11:11:40 AM
^^^^ http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4899578?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73


:D:D

Have fun with the lousy free agency market when you have cap space in 2007, I mean, with signing Amare and shit.


Quote
If Stoudemire does indeed sign the extension, he will become the second potential franchise free agent from the class of 2007 to be taken off the market this off-season. Earlier this summer, Yao Ming signed a comparable deal with the Houston Rockets.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 11:13:40 AM
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/07/22/2002397406.jpg)
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/07/22/2002397407.jpg)
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2005/07/22/2002397178.jpg)


...He looks ready to me. 8)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 11:15:25 AM
^^^^ http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4899578?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=73


:D:D

Have fun with the lousy free agency market when you have cap space in 2007, I mean, with signing Amare and shit.


Who gives a shit...You think Amare is the only player the Lakers are looking to sign in the near future? There are lots of big men to chose from...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 11:44:38 AM
Damn man, them Kemp's photos are pretty impressive! He still got a fat ass, but it looks like he's serious about making a real comeback. It's getting interesting man, i really wouldnt mind having him in our roster. He deserves a chance.

About the 2007 plan, i've heard LeBron James is a target.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 01:47:34 PM
About the 2007 plan, i've heard LeBron James is a target.

Yup.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: mrceo on September 26, 2005, 01:51:25 PM
Spree is not all star caliber anymore
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 01:54:19 PM
Spree is not all star caliber anymore

He could be playing the triangle. He was a year and a half ago......
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 26, 2005, 02:00:55 PM
Isn't James a free agent after this season  ???
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 02:31:29 PM
Isn't James a free agent after this season  ???


No...James will be a free agent in 2007...But fuck that, the Lakers need to go for a big man, we already have Kobe...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 26, 2005, 02:36:45 PM
Isn't James a free agent after this season  ???


No...James will be a free agent in 2007...But fuck that, the Lakers need to go for a big man, we already have Kobe...PeACe

Damn, that sucks for him lol. I thought every 1st-round-drafted rookie has a three-year-deal in the beginning.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 02:39:01 PM
I've just checked it: LeBron will be a restricted free agent in 2007 and an unrestricted free agent in 2008.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 02:41:13 PM
2007 FREE AGENTS
Esteban Batista     Atlanta    Unrestricted F.A.
John Edwards    Atlanta    Unrestricted F.A.
Royal Ivey    Atlanta    Restricted F.A.
Donta Smith    Atlanta    Restricted F.A.
Marcus Banks    Boston    Restricted F.A.
Will Bynum    Boston    Unrestricted F.A.
Kendrick Perkins    Boston    Restricted F.A.
Alan Anderson    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Kevin Burleson    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Matt Carroll    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Antonio Meeking    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Kareem Rush    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Malik Allen    Chicago    Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie Basden    Chicago    Restricted F.A.
Kirk Hinrich    Chicago    Restricted F.A.
Andres Nocioni    Chicago    Restricted F.A.
Darius Songaila    Chicago    Unrestricted F.A.
Martynas Andriuskevicius    Cleveland    Unrestricted F.A.
LeBron James    Cleveland    Restricted F.A.
Aleksandar Pavlovic    Cleveland    Restricted F.A.
Anderson Varejao    Cleveland    Restricted F.A.
Tariq Abdul-Wahad    Dallas    Unrestricted F.A.
Josh Howard    Dallas    Restricted F.A.
Rawle Marshall    Dallas    Unrestricted F.A.
Josh Powell    Dallas    Unrestricted F.A.
Jerry Stackhouse    Dallas    Unrestricted F.A.
Carmelo Anthony    Denver    Restricted F.A.
Luke Schenscher    Denver    Unrestricted F.A.
Alex Acker    Detroit    Restricted F.A.
Dale Davis    Detroit    Unrestricted F.A.
Amir Johnson    Detroit    Restricted F.A.
Darko Milicic    Detroit    Restricted F.A.
Zarko Cabarkapa    Golden State    Restricted F.A.
Monta Ellis    Golden State    Restricted F.A.
Mickael Pietrus    Golden State    Restricted F.A.
Chris Taft    Golden State    Unrestricted F.A.
Derek Anderson    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Ryan Bowen    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Mike James    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Dikembe Mutombo    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Moochie Norris    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Charlie Ward    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.
Jonathan Bender    Indiana    Unrestricted F.A.
Austin Croshere    Indiana    Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Kaman    L.A. Clippers    Restricted F.A.
Brian Cook    L.A. Lakers    Restricted F.A.
Aaron McKie    L.A. Lakers    Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Mihm    L.A. Lakers    Unrestricted F.A.
Smush Parker    L.A. Lakers    Unrestricted F.A.
Von Wafer    L.A. Lakers    Restricted F.A.
Dahntay Jones    Memphis    Restricted F.A.
Eddie Jones    Memphis    Unrestricted F.A.
Lawrence Roberts    Memphis    Restricted F.A.
Jake Tsakalidis    Memphis    Unrestricted F.A.
Gerald Fitch    Miami    Unrestricted F.A.
James Posey    Miami    Unrestricted F.A.
Dwyane Wade    Miami    Restricted F.A.
Matt Walsh    Miami    Restricted F.A.
Charlie Bell    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.
T.J. Ford    Milwaukee    Restricted F.A.
Reece Gaines    Milwaukee    Restricted F.A.
Ersan Ilyasova    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.
Desmond Mason    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.
Joe Smith    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.
Mo Williams    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.
Lionel Chalmers    Minnesota    Restricted F.A.
Ndudi Ebi    Minnesota    Restricted F.A.
Dwayne Jones    Minnesota    Unrestricted F.A.
Nikoloz Tskitishvili    Minnesota    Unrestricted F.A.
Bracey Wright    Minnesota    Unrestricted F.A.
Marc Jackson    New Jersey    Unrestricted F.A.
Jeff McInnis    New Jersey    Unrestricted F.A.
Scott Padgett    New Jersey    Unrestricted F.A.
Zoran Planinic    New Jersey    Restricted F.A.
Clifford Robinson    New Jersey    Unrestricted F.A.
PJ Brown    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Maciej Lampe    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Jamaal Magloire    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
David West    New Orleans    Restricted F.A.
Allan Houston    New York    Unrestricted F.A.
Mike Sweetney    New York    Restricted F.A.
Maurice Taylor    New York    Unrestricted F.A.
Travis Diener    Orlando    Restricted F.A.
Grant Hill    Orlando    Unrestricted F.A.
DeShawn Stevenson    Orlando    Unrestricted F.A.
Deng Gai    Philadelphia    Restricted F.A.
Shavlik Randolph    Philadelphia    Unrestricted F.A.
Leandrinho Barbosa    Phoenix    Restricted F.A.
Pat Burke    Phoenix    Restricted F.A.
Boris Diaw-Riffiod    Phoenix    Restricted F.A.
Brian Grant    Phoenix    Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie House    Phoenix    Unrestricted F.A.
Dijon Thompson    Phoenix    Restricted F.A.
Lucas Tischer    Phoenix    Unrestricted F.A.
Travis Outlaw    Portland    Restricted F.A.
Ruben Patterson    Portland    Unrestricted F.A.
Jason Hart    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Ronnie Price    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Corliss Williamson    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Nick Collison    Seattle    Restricted F.A.
Danny Fortson    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Vitaly Potapenko    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Luke Ridnour    Seattle    Restricted F.A.
Matt Bonner    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Bosh    Toronto    Restricted F.A.
Morris Peterson    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.
Jalen Rose    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.
Pape Sow    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.
Eric Williams    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.
Devin Brown    Utah    Unrestricted F.A.
C.J. Miles    Utah    Restricted F.A.
Robert Whaley    Utah    Unrestricted F.A.
Andray Blatche    Washington    Unrestricted F.A.
Calvin Booth    Washington    Unrestricted F.A.
Jarvis Hayes    Washington    Restricted F.A.
Michael Ruffin    Washington    Unrestricted F.A.
Donnell Taylor    Washington    Restricted F.A
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 02:55:37 PM
Kareem Rush    Charlotte                    Unrestricted F.A.
Chris Kaman    L.A. Clippers    Restricted F.A.
PJ Brown                    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Jamaal Magloire    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore    Seattle                    Unrestricted F.A.

That's who the Lakers should go after in 2007.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 03:00:02 PM
Nice selection. Kaman is a player i think could develope into an interesting C. Do you still like Kareem?
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 26, 2005, 03:01:59 PM
Ey Antonio,Big Props on that FA List,Great job 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 26, 2005, 03:28:53 PM
Nice selection. Kaman is a player i think could develope into an interesting C. Do you still like Kareem?


Yup...Look at how quickly Kareem developed into an impact player for Charlotte. He's now their starting shooting guard and his dream is to be an all-star. I think Kareem Rush will eventually be a big name in the NBA, and if he continues going down the right path, he should be a very sought after player by 2007...A starting backcourt of Kobe and an experienced Rush could be great...Chris Kaman has already been playing better than most centers in the league, even after being slowed down by injuries in his first 2 seasons. He's still progressing greatly and could have a breakthrough season in 2007 if signed by LA...PJ Brown is a vet who still has his step and could be a great frontcourt addition to the Lakers...Jamaal Magloire, same reason as PJ Brown, but he's much younger...Peja Stojakavic is just clutch. It'd be awesome to have him as a 6th man playing behind Odom, and possibly even with Odom on the court, especially during clutch-time...6th Man of the year for sure. I've seen A LOT of potential in Mikki Moore when watching him play for the Clippers...He's been playing short seasons and being bounced around the league like a bitch without a true chance to shine. He needs help to become a feared big man. He'e be a nice frontcourt addition, like PJ Brown and Jamaal Magloire, but he's much more athletic and has yet to reach his full potential...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 26, 2005, 04:48:46 PM
Let me try it too.

Kareem Rush    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie Jones    Memphis    Unrestricted F.A.
James Posey    Miami    Unrestricted F.A.
Jamaal Magloire    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Ruben Patterson    Portland    Unrestricted F.A.
Jason Hart    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Corliss Williamson    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Jalen Rose    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.

Rush -> good backup SG. He already have experience with the triangle.
Eddie Jones -> Veteran experience backing up his friend Kobe Bryant.

One of those 2 whould be perfect.

Posey -> good athletic SF. Great 6th man player.
Patterson -> good defence, great intensity. You always need a player like him in your roster. Even tho i prefeer our JJ right now.
Stojakovic -> best pure shooter in the NBA.

One of those 3 would really improve us in the 3 spot/bench.

Magloire -> probably the best C in the list.
Moore -> good prospect.

Hart -> great underrated backup PG.
Rose -> best playmaker in the world to play triangle.

P.S. I chosed only Unrestricted Free Agents, cause we can really make a run for them and win it, if we have to.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TobyTizzle on September 27, 2005, 12:45:58 AM
Firstly Peja is as good as a Nun in a brothel come playoff time and there is not a chance Spree can play as an All Star, yet alone his season 1 and a half years ago. He is aging and it is affecting his game A LOT...

I cant believe you actually think that line up will contend next season, basing it things such as Coke-Kemp maybe signing and maybe contributing, Bynam being able to do anything etc etc

You can hope for the 8th or 7th seed at the best...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Stone Cold is Bout It, Bout It on September 27, 2005, 12:57:34 AM
2007 FREE AGENTS

Marcus Banks    Boston    Restricted F.A.



LeBron James    Cleveland    Restricted F.A.


Carmelo Anthony    Denver    Restricted F.A.


Mickael Pietrus    Golden State    Restricted F.A.

Mike James    Houston    Unrestricted F.A.

Chris Kaman    L.A. Clippers    Restricted F.A.


Dwyane Wade    Miami    Restricted F.A.

Desmond Mason    Milwaukee    Unrestricted F.A.


PJ Brown    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Maciej Lampe    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.

David West    New Orleans    Restricted F.A.

Mike Sweetney    New York    Restricted F.A.
DeShawn Stevenson    Orlando    Unrestricted F.A.

Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.

Luke Ridnour    Seattle    Restricted F.A.

Chris Bosh    Toronto    Restricted F.A.

Devin Brown    Utah    Unrestricted F.A.
Jarvis Hayes    Washington    Restricted F.A.


It's going to be hard to get some of those players,but lets see what happens 8)
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 27, 2005, 08:06:43 AM
Let me try it too.

Kareem Rush    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie Jones    Memphis    Unrestricted F.A.
James Posey    Miami    Unrestricted F.A.
Jamaal Magloire    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Ruben Patterson    Portland    Unrestricted F.A.
Jason Hart    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Corliss Williamson    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Jalen Rose    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.

Rush -> good backup SG. He already have experience with the triangle.
Eddie Jones -> Veteran experience backing up his friend Kobe Bryant.

One of those 2 whould be perfect.

Posey -> good athletic SF. Great 6th man player.
Patterson -> good defence, great intensity. You always need a player like him in your roster. Even tho i prefeer our JJ right now.
Stojakovic -> best pure shooter in the NBA.

One of those 3 would really improve us in the 3 spot/bench.

Magloire -> probably the best C in the list.
Moore -> good prospect.

Hart -> great underrated backup PG.
Rose -> best playmaker in the world to play triangle.

P.S. I chosed only Unrestricted Free Agents, cause we can really make a run for them and win it, if we have to.



Rush is at the point in his career where he needs to start in order to gain confidence and become something. Backing up Kobe won't cut it, that's why he got traded for basically nothing in the first place. Kobe needs a player like Tony Bobbit to back him up at SG, not a player who deserves a good portion of minutes like Eddie Jones or Kareem Rush. Posey would be a nice addition off the bench. Patterson is the anti-Kobe, he's a good defender, but his attitude is shit and he doesn't deserve to be a Laker. Jason Hart can be a nice addition as well, I've always liked his style...And Jalen Rose, we already got teased this summer in a rumor that said Jalen was coming to LA. Of course, my reaction to that was positive, because a backcourt of Kobe and Rose would be spectacular...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 27, 2005, 08:08:15 AM
Firstly Peja is as good as a Nun in a brothel come playoff time and there is not a chance Spree can play as an All Star, yet alone his season 1 and a half years ago. He is aging and it is affecting his game A LOT...

I cant believe you actually think that line up will contend next season, basing it things such as Coke-Kemp maybe signing and maybe contributing, Bynam being able to do anything etc etc

You can hope for the 8th or 7th seed at the best...


Why shouldn't it? It's a great line-up for the triangle...People forget who Phil Jackson is.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 27, 2005, 08:49:11 AM
Let me try it too.

Kareem Rush    Charlotte    Unrestricted F.A.
Eddie Jones    Memphis    Unrestricted F.A.
James Posey    Miami    Unrestricted F.A.
Jamaal Magloire    New Orleans    Unrestricted F.A.
Ruben Patterson    Portland    Unrestricted F.A.
Jason Hart    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Peja Stojakovic    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Corliss Williamson    Sacramento    Unrestricted F.A.
Mikki Moore    Seattle    Unrestricted F.A.
Jalen Rose    Toronto    Unrestricted F.A.

Rush -> good backup SG. He already have experience with the triangle.
Eddie Jones -> Veteran experience backing up his friend Kobe Bryant.

One of those 2 whould be perfect.

Posey -> good athletic SF. Great 6th man player.
Patterson -> good defence, great intensity. You always need a player like him in your roster. Even tho i prefeer our JJ right now.
Stojakovic -> best pure shooter in the NBA.

One of those 3 would really improve us in the 3 spot/bench.

Magloire -> probably the best C in the list.
Moore -> good prospect.

Hart -> great underrated backup PG.
Rose -> best playmaker in the world to play triangle.

P.S. I chosed only Unrestricted Free Agents, cause we can really make a run for them and win it, if we have to.



Rush is at the point in his career where he needs to start in order to gain confidence and become something. Backing up Kobe won't cut it, that's why he got traded for basically nothing in the first place. Kobe needs a player like Tony Bobbit to back him up at SG, not a player who deserves a good portion of minutes like Eddie Jones or Kareem Rush.

I'm talking about Eddie Jones in 2 years. He'll be a veteran.

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Posey would be a nice addition off the bench. Patterson is the anti-Kobe, he's a good defender, but his attitude is shit and he doesn't deserve to be a Laker. Jason Hart can be a nice addition as well, I've always liked his style...And Jalen Rose, we already got teased this summer in a rumor that said Jalen was coming to LA. Of course, my reaction to that was positive, because a backcourt of Kobe and Rose would be spectacular...

Hell yeah. But Spree is also a good one.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 27, 2005, 01:14:33 PM
I'm talking about Eddie Jones in 2 years. He'll be a veteran.

He'll be a veteran, so what? That doesn't mean he needs to play behind Kobe...Only players like Tony Bobbit and Laron Profit should play behind Kobe, cuz that means they're getting no more than 10 minutes a game, which is just warm up time for Eddie...

Hell yeah. But Spree is also a good one.

Yup. I'd actually like Spree over Rose because of his way smaller salary and his proven work ethics...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 27, 2005, 02:09:35 PM
Eddie will be 36 in 2007. I think he could play like Ron Harper, Brian Shaw and Aaron McKie, maybe even as a PG. If Spree can, Eddie DEF can. Man he used to be my fav player, lol! I just want him to finish his career with a Lakers #6 jersey.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 27, 2005, 02:32:55 PM
Eddie will be 36 in 2007. I think he could play like Ron Harper, Brian Shaw and Aaron McKie, maybe even as a PG. If Spree can, Eddie DEF can. Man he used to be my fav player, lol! I just want him to finish his career with a Lakers #6 jersey.


Spree is much more fit to run the point than Eddie is...Eddie is closer to a small forward more than anything. It's just how you said "Eddie backing up Kobe"...Bad idea. Eddie starting at small forward or backing up Odom (if he's still a Laker) would've sounded better...It'd be nice to see Eddie back in a Laker jersey, but I'd prefer seeing Rush back in that 21 starting in the backcourt with Kobe, or Stojakavic coming off the bench at small forward instead of Jones, who is more of the starting 5 type. Jones should finish his career a starter, he's not the type of player who should slowly subside, but rather the type who should go out with a bang. Eddie needs to find a rebuilding team, possibly head back to Charlotte and use his veteran skills to lead them to sucess...But I'd definitely not decline an Eddie Jones return to LA...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 28, 2005, 01:17:17 AM
Eddie will be 36 in 2007. I think he could play like Ron Harper, Brian Shaw and Aaron McKie, maybe even as a PG. If Spree can, Eddie DEF can. Man he used to be my fav player, lol! I just want him to finish his career with a Lakers #6 jersey.


Spree is much more fit to run the point than Eddie is...Eddie is closer to a small forward more than anything. It's just how you said "Eddie backing up Kobe"...Bad idea. Eddie starting at small forward or backing up Odom (if he's still a Laker) would've sounded better...It'd be nice to see Eddie back in a Laker jersey, but I'd prefer seeing Rush back in that 21 starting in the backcourt with Kobe, or Stojakavic coming off the bench at small forward instead of Jones, who is more of the starting 5 type. Jones should finish his career a starter, he's not the type of player who should slowly subside, but rather the type who should go out with a bang. Eddie needs to find a rebuilding team, possibly head back to Charlotte and use his veteran skills to lead them to sucess...But I'd definitely not decline an Eddie Jones return to LA...PeACe

Spree is more "fit" to run the point then Eddie...but believe me, you DO not want him runnin your point...lol
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on September 28, 2005, 06:26:43 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TobyTizzle on September 28, 2005, 07:17:07 AM
Firstly Peja is as good as a Nun in a brothel come playoff time and there is not a chance Spree can play as an All Star, yet alone his season 1 and a half years ago. He is aging and it is affecting his game A LOT...

I cant believe you actually think that line up will contend next season, basing it things such as Coke-Kemp maybe signing and maybe contributing, Bynam being able to do anything etc etc

You can hope for the 8th or 7th seed at the best...


If he cant work it out with Kobe, Shaq, and Payton (im taking Malone out of the equation due to his injury) it aint working with Spree involved...
you mentioned spree's work ethic... lol what about his attitude which has been proven time and time again to suck... get those Laker goggles off and see Sprewell is NOT going to make you a contender, especially with Kemp in the house...

Spree is declining, and thats a wrap... that year with Cassell as an All Star and KG dominating (whats new?) was his year, they screwed things up last season with their contract negotiating and he lost a lot of respect that season helped him earn back...

P.S Phil Jackson is over rated and past his prime, he will be good for the Lakers, but he is no massiah, same goes for LB and my Knicks, it will improve our teams, but you cant make a dollar outta 15 cents...

Why shouldn't it? It's a great line-up for the triangle...People forget who Phil Jackson is.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 28, 2005, 10:03:26 AM
Eddie will be 36 in 2007. I think he could play like Ron Harper, Brian Shaw and Aaron McKie, maybe even as a PG. If Spree can, Eddie DEF can. Man he used to be my fav player, lol! I just want him to finish his career with a Lakers #6 jersey.


Spree is much more fit to run the point than Eddie is...Eddie is closer to a small forward more than anything. It's just how you said "Eddie backing up Kobe"...Bad idea. Eddie starting at small forward or backing up Odom (if he's still a Laker) would've sounded better...It'd be nice to see Eddie back in a Laker jersey, but I'd prefer seeing Rush back in that 21 starting in the backcourt with Kobe, or Stojakavic coming off the bench at small forward instead of Jones, who is more of the starting 5 type. Jones should finish his career a starter, he's not the type of player who should slowly subside, but rather the type who should go out with a bang. Eddie needs to find a rebuilding team, possibly head back to Charlotte and use his veteran skills to lead them to sucess...But I'd definitely not decline an Eddie Jones return to LA...PeACe

Spree is more "fit" to run the point then Eddie...but believe me, you DO not want him runnin your point...lol


Spree can run point and switch off with Kobe...Kobe is excellent at running the point, so I see no reason it can't be done...A backcourt of Sprewell and Kobe would run through shit like it's nothing...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 28, 2005, 10:07:30 AM
Firstly Peja is as good as a Nun in a brothel come playoff time and there is not a chance Spree can play as an All Star, yet alone his season 1 and a half years ago. He is aging and it is affecting his game A LOT...

I cant believe you actually think that line up will contend next season, basing it things such as Coke-Kemp maybe signing and maybe contributing, Bynam being able to do anything etc etc

You can hope for the 8th or 7th seed at the best...


If he cant work it out with Kobe, Shaq, and Payton (im taking Malone out of the equation due to his injury) it aint working with Spree involved...
you mentioned spree's work ethic... lol what about his attitude which has been proven time and time again to suck... get those Laker goggles off and see Sprewell is NOT going to make you a contender, especially with Kemp in the house...

Spree is declining, and thats a wrap... that year with Cassell as an All Star and KG dominating (whats new?) was his year, they screwed things up last season with their contract negotiating and he lost a lot of respect that season helped him earn back...

P.S Phil Jackson is over rated and past his prime, he will be good for the Lakers, but he is no massiah, same goes for LB and my Knicks, it will improve our teams, but you cant make a dollar outta 15 cents...

Why shouldn't it? It's a great line-up for the triangle...People forget who Phil Jackson is.


Well. Sprewell is known as a hard worker. Kobe is known as a hard worker. Kemp is working extra to get back in form. Kwame has a lot to prove. Phil has a lot to prove...I just think the line-up looks like a very hungry one...We'll see.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 28, 2005, 11:44:04 AM
Phil has a lot to prove...

Not to me.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 28, 2005, 12:15:48 PM
Phil has a lot to prove...

Not to me.


If he doesn't suceed, his legacy will be dented, people will claim he won championships only because of the great teams he was handed. Anyone remember the year Jordan left? Pippen was the leader of the Bulls and they got deep in the playoffs with a roster way worse than the current Lakers...Phil can manage...PeACe.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 28, 2005, 12:47:24 PM
Phil has a lot to prove...

Not to me.


If he doesn't suceed, his legacy will be dented, people will claim he won championships only because of the great teams he was handed. Anyone remember the year Jordan left? Pippen was the leader of the Bulls and they got deep in the playoffs with a roster way worse than the current Lakers...Phil can manage...PeACe.

I know. What i mean is that to me he doesnt have to prove shit. I already know he's a great coach, one of the best ever. He won with Jordan? Flash: only Phil did. He won with Kobe and Shaq? Flash: only Phil did. I know he'll have a great time in his second adventure in Lakerland.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TobyTizzle on September 29, 2005, 06:18:51 AM
Well it seems PJ and Mitch disagree with you on this one... Spree aint going to LA LA Land...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 29, 2005, 07:36:04 AM
Smokescreen, man. Phil said also that Lakers will not make any move. Do you realistically find it credible? Expect them to make a move in the next 48 hours, lol.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 29, 2005, 07:41:19 AM
Eddie will be 36 in 2007. I think he could play like Ron Harper, Brian Shaw and Aaron McKie, maybe even as a PG. If Spree can, Eddie DEF can. Man he used to be my fav player, lol! I just want him to finish his career with a Lakers #6 jersey.


Spree is much more fit to run the point than Eddie is...Eddie is closer to a small forward more than anything. It's just how you said "Eddie backing up Kobe"...Bad idea. Eddie starting at small forward or backing up Odom (if he's still a Laker) would've sounded better...It'd be nice to see Eddie back in a Laker jersey, but I'd prefer seeing Rush back in that 21 starting in the backcourt with Kobe, or Stojakavic coming off the bench at small forward instead of Jones, who is more of the starting 5 type. Jones should finish his career a starter, he's not the type of player who should slowly subside, but rather the type who should go out with a bang. Eddie needs to find a rebuilding team, possibly head back to Charlotte and use his veteran skills to lead them to sucess...But I'd definitely not decline an Eddie Jones return to LA...PeACe

Spree is more "fit" to run the point then Eddie...but believe me, you DO not want him runnin your point...lol


Spree can run point and switch off with Kobe...Kobe is excellent at running the point, so I see no reason it can't be done...A backcourt of Sprewell and Kobe would run through shit like it's nothing...PeACe

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there. Youre gonna have some FRUSTRATED bigmen with Kobe and Spree runnin the point lol. I see forced three's, and fade-aways through double teams taken all game lol.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 29, 2005, 08:28:51 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 29, 2005, 02:02:21 PM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Doggystylin on September 29, 2005, 02:57:01 PM
all this arguing for nothing, i see no links or articles about any of these deals happening, kemp hasnt even mentioned the lakers AT ALL, wtf are you all talking about, write this down, no kemp or spreewell on the lakers this year
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 29, 2005, 08:52:04 PM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.

Our problem last year was the absence of Shaq inside. We built our defence around him, in the last years. I mean the defenders knew that they had an intimidator inside. Kobe himself was been named a couple of times in the All Defensive team of the NBA. But without Shaq it's obviously a different defence, you gotta do it harder and you cant let your opponent go inside. That's why Atkins, Tierre Brown and Vujacic got exposed, and that's why Odom playing in the PF position was been so bad defensively. This year, like i said, they need great defenders in the "initiator" spot, not Chucky Atkins'. Aaron McKie is known for being a good defender. Spree can defend too. So that's why they both can fit well. Smush Parker himself can defend. Other players who can defend are Watson (probably the best defensive PG in the league), Pargo and Lue, three other Lakers targets (Lue signed with Atlanta tho). That's what we need. We dont need a Jasikevicious type of PG! (even tho he's a fantastic PG!). Oh, and having Kwame Brown inside instead of Odom will help our defence. Phil is building this team around defence, obviously. All the players we acquired are good defenders. Turiaf is another great defender (too bad he had that problem). Wafer can defend. Bynum got long arms and in a couple of years he'll be a good intimidator inside (i'm not saying he'll be a dominant center, but at least a good intimidator). We need defenders. That's why Spree can fit well.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on September 30, 2005, 12:48:21 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.

Our problem last year was the absence of Shaq inside. We built our defence around him, in the last years. I mean the defenders knew that they had an intimidator inside. Kobe himself was been named a couple of times in the All Defensive team of the NBA. But without Shaq it's obviously a different defence, you gotta do it harder and you cant let your opponent go inside. That's why Atkins, Tierre Brown and Vujacic got exposed, and that's why Odom playing in the PF position was been so bad defensively. This year, like i said, they need great defenders in the "initiator" spot, not Chucky Atkins'. Aaron McKie is known for being a good defender. Spree can defend too. So that's why they both can fit well. Smush Parker himself can defend. Other players who can defend are Watson (probably the best defensive PG in the league), Pargo and Lue, three other Lakers targets (Lue signed with Atlanta tho). That's what we need. We dont need a Jasikevicious type of PG! (even tho he's a fantastic PG!). Oh, and having Kwame Brown inside instead of Odom will help our defence. Phil is building this team around defence, obviously. All the players we acquired are good defenders. Turiaf is another great defender (too bad he had that problem). Wafer can defend. Bynum got long arms and in a couple of years he'll be a good intimidator inside (i'm not saying he'll be a dominant center, but at least a good intimidator). We need defenders. That's why Spree can fit well.

im talkin about the idea of having Kobe and Spree at your 1 and 2 spots. Against any of the elite point guards this would be a real mismatch defensively. Like i said, Spree's defense is more in the passing lanes...not necessarily his on tha ball defense. He gambles alot...which would be bad for a team with no great presence under the hoop to bail him out. Same for Kobe, as far as you wouldnt want your top offensive to player to spend most of his energy chasin around some 6 foot point guard. You want those two guys to be able to get into the passing lanes imo...which doesnt really happen when youre stickin tha point. Best bet (for Spree especially) is guardin a player like Ray Allen. Someone who comes of screens more and lookin for open jumpers...and Spree can use his athletism as a strength rather then his agressiveness on D only being used against him. Obviously youd have to have either Kobe or Spree stickin the 2....but i wouldnt put either at the point. At least have another true point guard in the game for defensive purposes. Who gives a shit who brings the ball upcourt....really doesnt matter if they plan on gettin into a triangle offense anyways. BTW...it hasnt even been confirmed that Spree is comin to LA has it? Last i heard Phil said it wasnt likely to happen.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on September 30, 2005, 02:09:50 AM
Man the only player i really wanted to be signed as a Free Agent was Watson. But Spree is better than nothing. Actually everybody is. AND everybody is better than Atkins+T.Brown+Vujacic.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TobyTizzle on October 03, 2005, 07:09:02 AM
Smokescreen, man. Phil said also that Lakers will not make any move. Do you realistically find it credible? Expect them to make a move in the next 48 hours, lol.

 ::) lol
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: 7even on October 03, 2005, 07:20:34 AM
Lakers are in serious trouble. They have no bench players whatsoever. And Mihm, Brown and McKie arent exactly an intimidating part of a starting 5. Odom ain't an all-star either.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: acbaylove on October 03, 2005, 09:37:19 AM
Smokescreen, man. Phil said also that Lakers will not make any move. Do you realistically find it credible? Expect them to make a move in the next 48 hours, lol.

 ::) lol

Ok i'm a little bit worried now! :-\
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 03, 2005, 10:12:36 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.


Just like they penetrated against Ron Harper and John Paxson duiring the Bulls reign, correct? Lakers have a fine amount of point guards or players who can run the point. Aaron Mckie, Smush Parker (very underrated), Sasha Vuvajic (Drazen Petrovic like), Kobe Bryant, shit, Lamar Odom was originally a point guard...If anything, the Lakers suffer in the front court, but we've signed Corie Blount for an extra big body. Not that he's a great addition or anything, but he can defend, block shots, and rebound. He'll be good for backing up Kwame for 10-15 mins a game...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 03, 2005, 10:14:53 AM
all this arguing for nothing, i see no links or articles about any of these deals happening, kemp hasnt even mentioned the lakers AT ALL, wtf are you all talking about, write this down, no kemp or spreewell on the lakers this year


You saw no talks of Sprewell to the Lakers? It's been reported several times this past month, in fact, it's been the biggest Laker news in a while...Now it looks as if it's not going to happen, Spree wants more and the sign and trade fell through...Kemp was never in negotiations, but I just stated he'd be a nice addition...PeACe
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Juronimo on October 03, 2005, 09:17:58 PM
Shit I'd rather see Kemp than Corie Blunt in a Laker uniform.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: TeeRaySix9Teen on October 04, 2005, 12:01:28 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.


Just like they penetrated against Ron Harper and John Paxson duiring the Bulls reign, correct? Lakers have a fine amount of point guards or players who can run the point. Aaron Mckie, Smush Parker (very underrated), Sasha Vuvajic (Drazen Petrovic like), Kobe Bryant, shit, Lamar Odom was originally a point guard...If anything, the Lakers suffer in the front court, but we've signed Corie Blount for an extra big body. Not that he's a great addition or anything, but he can defend, block shots, and rebound. He'll be good for backing up Kwame for 10-15 mins a game...PeACe

Youre right...and this Laker team is exactly like those Championship Bulls teams. LOL!!

The Bulls didnt have a great front court....but in all honesty, it was still better then this one. Not to mention, the Bulls were a VERY good defensive team. 2005 Lakers....uhh....not quite the same thing happenin there is it? Jordan and Pippen were constant NBA All Defensive team members...so they had great help defense, even if their bigmen werent amazing shotblockers. You guys dont have that.
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 04, 2005, 11:09:41 AM
Shit I'd rather see Kemp than Corie Blunt in a Laker uniform.


Me too, but Blount is a big body who'll block shots and scoop up some rebounds for 10-15 minutes a game. I liked him in his first run with the Lakers, hopefully he can provide some front court help...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 04, 2005, 11:18:33 AM
Point is probably the hardest position to play. I wouldnt experiment with that. Put a real point guard there.

Like 7even said, get a real point guard in there.

Do you both knows the triangle system? It doesnt use a real point guard, but a point forward and an "initiator". Lakers have both. Odom is the point forward (the most versatile in the league, probably), and McKie is the initiator. Why should we get a real point guard if the triangle system doesnt need him? Did you remember Payton? He was a real PG, an All-Of-Famer type of PG. But still he failed. Why? Cause he had to do the initiator, not the point guard. So just get an initiator and use Odom as the point forward. There's no need to sign a real point guard. The best initiators in Phil's team was been Ron Harper and Bryan Shaw. Can you honestly call them "real point guards"? And yes, Spree can def do the initiator. All he gotta do is to defend and to share the ball. It's not that hard.

but it still prevents matchup problems on the other end. Kobe and Spree are good defenders (at their position). Spree, more of an "in the lane" defender then an on the ball defender. Kobe is basically streaky on tha defensive end. Quick penetrating point guards will be in the lane all day against Laker defense...which will be very bad for a team with no front court.


Just like they penetrated against Ron Harper and John Paxson duiring the Bulls reign, correct? Lakers have a fine amount of point guards or players who can run the point. Aaron Mckie, Smush Parker (very underrated), Sasha Vuvajic (Drazen Petrovic like), Kobe Bryant, shit, Lamar Odom was originally a point guard...If anything, the Lakers suffer in the front court, but we've signed Corie Blount for an extra big body. Not that he's a great addition or anything, but he can defend, block shots, and rebound. He'll be good for backing up Kwame for 10-15 mins a game...PeACe

Youre right...and this Laker team is exactly like those Championship Bulls teams. LOL!!

The Bulls didnt have a great front court....but in all honesty, it was still better then this one. Not to mention, the Bulls were a VERY good defensive team. 2005 Lakers....uhh....not quite the same thing happenin there is it? Jordan and Pippen were constant NBA All Defensive team members...so they had great help defense, even if their bigmen werent amazing shotblockers. You guys dont have that.


Bulls had a front court of Luc Longley and Horace Grant...Chris Mihm is obviously a more talented and overall better player than Luc Longley, and that's not even a question. Horace Grant was a monster in his days, but Kwame Brown is expected to surpass a Horace Grant by a lot, and his potential under Phil Jackson might actually be proven...Now I'm not saying a frontcourt of Chris Mihm and Kwame Brown is neccessarily better than a frontcourt of Luc Longley and Horace Grant, but they're not far off, you know? The Bulls really were a great defensive team, but Kobe is the best defensive shooting guard in the league, Aaron McKie was brought in becaue of his defensive game, Lamar Odom has always been great on defense, and our frontcourt of Kwame Brown and Chris Mihm WILL block some shots, especially now that we have Corie Blount coming off the bench, who played for the original Bulls 3peat team, his main thing is shot blocking...
Title: Re: Shawn Kemp making a strong comeback...Could possibly sign with the Lakers?
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 04, 2005, 09:10:39 PM
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I wouldn't mind Pippen suiting up as a player-coach...LOL