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Title: probably been said a million times but why........
Post by: Paul on October 16, 2005, 04:13:19 AM
is nate dogg not credited on next episode and bitch please ???
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Post by: ABN on October 16, 2005, 04:22:17 AM
he´s not credited in the booklet ???
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Post by: Paul on October 16, 2005, 04:34:52 AM
he´s not credited in the booklet ???

nope
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Post by: Elevz on October 16, 2005, 05:05:23 AM
I remember Dre left Death Row, saying he was always going to give people proper credits, unlike what Suge did. I don't know why Nate isn't credited for these songs. Was Nate signed to a label at the time, or did he get paid in another way for doing these songs? I'm pretty sure there must be some story behind Nate's credits for them two songs.
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Post by: coola on October 16, 2005, 06:34:29 AM
thats weird, coz kurupt is credited for background vocals...
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Post by: No Compute on October 16, 2005, 06:38:14 AM
I'm sure he would of got paid so I don't think he cares.
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Post by: coola on October 16, 2005, 06:41:16 AM
anpther thing i realised... you know the "what up dr. dre" line after the intro on chronic 2001 ? i always thought it was kurupt, but its tray dee.
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Post by: Twentytwofifty on October 16, 2005, 07:04:56 AM
anpther thing i realised... you know the "what up dr. dre" line after the intro on chronic 2001 ? i always thought it was kurupt, but its tray dee.

You probably thought it was Kurupt because... it is Kurupt.  Tray Deee?  wtf are you smoking?
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Post by: coola on October 16, 2005, 07:08:53 AM
anpther thing i realised... you know the "what up dr. dre" line after the intro on chronic 2001 ? i always thought it was kurupt, but its tray dee.

You probably thought it was Kurupt because... it is Kurupt.  Tray Deee?  wtf are you smoking?


read the credits dude.
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Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on October 16, 2005, 07:13:58 AM
lol at people thinking thats Kurupt,I always thought it was Tray Deee cause it is him.lmao at Knuckles.
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Post by: W-Side on October 16, 2005, 07:49:53 AM
in the beginning when x and tray deee is talkin that's obviously him but "what up dr. dre" is kurupt or somebody who sounds similar, definatly not tray deee.
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Post by: coola on October 16, 2005, 08:43:15 AM
in the beginning when x and tray deee is talkin that's obviously him but "what up dr. dre" is kurupt or somebody who sounds similar, definatly not tray deee.

i thought it was only X talking at the beginning ? some-one up the intro, my cd doesnt work anymore.
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Post by: 0000000 on October 16, 2005, 08:52:30 AM
you can see its him as hes in the video and the vioce is clearly kurupt
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Post by: DPG4Life on October 16, 2005, 09:09:08 AM
its X and tray dee in the the intro, the guys talking about the hopping lolo
and right at the end of that track (so right before track 2 begins) its KURUPT saying "what up dr.dre"

theres no doubt about that - any1 thinking something else gotta be stupid or having NO CLUE (at all) about westcoast rap!
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Post by: WestCoasta on October 16, 2005, 11:45:17 PM
I always knew it was Tray Deee
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Post by: westkoastanostra on October 17, 2005, 01:01:26 AM
its X and tray dee in the the intro, the guys talking about the hopping lolo
and right at the end of that track (so right before track 2 begins) its KURUPT saying "what up dr.dre"

theres no doubt about that - any1 thinking something else gotta be stupid or having NO CLUE (at all) about westcoast rap!
correctomundo!
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Post by: JMan on October 17, 2005, 01:15:11 AM
in the beginning when x and tray deee is talkin that's obviously him but "what up dr. dre" is kurupt or somebody who sounds similar, definatly not tray deee.

i thought it was only X talking at the beginning ? some-one up the intro, my cd doesnt work anymore.

heres the intro, listen for your selves .... http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1J2SN7V1S27N11YCSBMDJ0OOJD
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Post by: ChinBo37 on October 17, 2005, 01:24:42 AM
man sounds like Kurupt to me but i could be wrong  ???
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Post by: truedupbluedup on October 17, 2005, 01:56:12 AM
:40 seconds into the song after Xzibit and whoever was talking Kurupt comes in and says..."What up Dr. Dre!"
THATS KURUPT!! sounds like nobody else. TRAY DEE?? Sounds nothing like him. C'mon man. its Kurupt and I will argue that till the day i die. Ill Put that on something. ITS KURUPT!! 8)


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Post by: We Fly High on October 17, 2005, 02:02:04 AM
its X and tray dee in the the intro, the guys talking about the hopping lolo
and right at the end of that track (so right before track 2 begins) its KURUPT saying "what up dr.dre"

theres no doubt about that - any1 thinking something else gotta be stupid or having NO CLUE (at all) about westcoast rap!
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Post by: Don Seer on October 17, 2005, 02:14:45 AM
I remember Dre left Death Row, saying he was always going to give people proper credits, unlike what Suge did. I don't know why Nate isn't credited for these songs. Was Nate signed to a label at the time, or did he get paid in another way for doing these songs? I'm pretty sure there must be some story behind Nate's credits for them two songs.

b-please wasn't on a Dr Dre album or label, it was on Snoop's project on No Limit.


as for 2001 intro... Definitely Xzibit & Tray Deee then Kurupt..


as for "credits in booklets" they are NOT a legal document like some people treat them, neither appearances NOR samples _have_ to be creditted _unless_ the person specifies they must be creditted as part of the agreement.

"you can sample us as long as its creditted " etc..

this is why samples aren't always listed.. coz they dont have to be! 

album credits, samples etc are often last minute things and often contain mistakes and errors etc..


Take a look back at your older classic albums.. most of them dont even list who is featured on songs in _any_ way.

Title: Re: probably been said a million times but why........
Post by: Paul on October 17, 2005, 06:24:45 AM
as for the lolo intro, it is kurupt at the end, but the actual intro is x and tray deee
nuff said on that, im still confused bout the nate dogg situation ???
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Post by: sune on October 17, 2005, 08:58:38 AM
yup its kurupt at the end
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Post by: Kaligula on October 17, 2005, 09:53:21 AM
as for the lolo intro, it is kurupt at the end, but the actual intro is x and tray deee
nuff said on that, im still confused bout the nate dogg situation ???

I think Overseer stated it very clearly. The booklet isn't a binding legal document - sometimes credits get fucked up in the liner notes. That doesn't mean that Nate didn't get paid his publishing credits, tho. Obviously he did, or otherwise he wouldn't be on pretty much every album that Dre has ever produced since 1992.
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Post by: Matty on October 17, 2005, 10:07:50 AM
just thought i'd add that i personally can't fault ti being on quik's album. he's popular and comes off the on the song nicely. overall a dope track.
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Post by: No Compute on October 17, 2005, 10:08:09 AM
as for the lolo intro, it is kurupt at the end, but the actual intro is x and tray deee
nuff said on that, im still confused bout the nate dogg situation ???

I think Overseer stated it very clearly. The booklet isn't a binding legal document - sometimes credits get fucked up in the liner notes. That doesn't mean that Nate didn't get paid his publishing credits, tho. Obviously he did, or otherwise he wouldn't be on pretty much every album that Dre has ever produced since 1992.

He probably didn't write what he sung, that's why he hasn't got publishing credits.
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Post by: Diabolical on October 17, 2005, 10:11:39 AM
Yeah and its not like Nate did work where Dre can say "oh, thats not Nate, he didnt do anything."
Its quite clear that Nate is on the track
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Post by: WestCoasta on October 17, 2005, 12:14:41 PM
its X and tray dee in the the intro, the guys talking about the hopping lolo
and right at the end of that track (so right before track 2 begins) its KURUPT saying "what up dr.dre"

theres no doubt about that - any1 thinking something else gotta be stupid or having NO CLUE (at all) about westcoast rap!
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Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on October 17, 2005, 12:19:42 PM
Just listened to the intro,definately sounds like Kurupt.
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Post by: Elevz on October 17, 2005, 12:35:22 PM
I get the point about credits never being "official", but why do they add names like Xzibit to the list of featurings, as well as add Kurupt to the credits as doing "background vocals" where Nate didn't even get mentioned. They must've totally forgotten about him when typing out the credits. That's rather strange.
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 17, 2005, 12:56:23 PM
lol @ this thread. who cares. nate dogg said like 9 words is each song
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Post by: Z the laidback Virus on October 17, 2005, 03:58:01 PM
We care,obviously. And the reason we care is that its absolutely unneccesary to have incomplete credits and that the politics behind making credits are sometimes barely understandable.
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Post by: GangstaBoogy on October 17, 2005, 05:04:15 PM
We care,obviously. And the reason we care is that its absolutely unneccesary to have incomplete credits and that the politics behind making credits are sometimes barely understandable.

oh you have my deepest apology. i had no idea you felt so strong on this issue...

...i know you cant see me, but im giving you the middle finger right now
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Post by: coola on October 17, 2005, 05:36:52 PM
as i said i always thought it was kurupt until i read the credits the other day and tripped...
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Post by: PLANT on October 17, 2005, 05:57:01 PM
Tray Deee is talking in the background with Xzibit and then Kurupt says "What up Dr. Dre"