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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 18, 2005, 03:16:20 PM
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Lamar Odom, Los Angeles Lakers
With two stints in L.A. and one in Miami, this guy has a relatively big name already. If he truly becomes a star this season, some might argue, he merely will catch up to his self-image. But Odom really stands to grow under coach Phil Jackson, who has shown a willingness to let him become Scottie Pippen to Kobe Bryant's Michael Jordan in a Bulls West system. That means handling the ball more and triggering the vaunted triangle offense in a move to small forward. If he works and stays healthy, Odom has every chance to succeed.
Looks like not everyone has lost faith and some true fans and believers do remain... 8)
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yeaaaaaaa Bosh! Raptors do have a hope ;D
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I remember the Odom hater saying something like this as well...
I think Odom is a damn underrated player, man. He's a born leader, an All Star player imo. And now he'll prove it.
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Odom could have became a leauge superstar without the help of Phil. Basically Phil and Pippen are gonna teach him to reach his actual potential? It seems to me that the writer still doesnt have faith in Odom but has more faith in Phil Jackson
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Thats my boy Chris Bosh ;)
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Odom could have became a leauge superstar without the help of Phil. Basically Phil and Pippen are gonna teach him to reach his actual potential? It seems to me that the writer still doesnt have faith in Odom but has more faith in Phil Jackson
He can be helped. He can be guided and taught to utilize his talents. Phil Jackson is the best coach ever and Scottie Pippen is maybe the best point forward ever. So with these two mentoring him, he's bound to reach his potential.
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Man why have to twist my opinions to support your arguments? First of all we was talking about who's better between Odom/Brown and Artest. First fact: Brown is not even in that list. Second fact: Artest is already in the NBA superstars list. Third fact: Odom is in the "maybe one day they'll be superstars" list. So stop acting stupid trying to have a point just cause Odom made that list (lol and the author said he's in that list mostly because of Phil coaching him). Plus, i've never said Odom cant develope into a good/great player: he has all the tools. I've always said that he's soft, that his attitude on the floor is wack, that he has never carried a team over his shoulders. I judge players from what they've done on the floor. Brown is a bust, and Odom is coming from a very negative season where he disappointed me. I'll still do the Artest vs Brown/Odom move.
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Nazr Mohammed, Jamaal Magloire, Kaman, Josh Childress, Josh Smith? wtf is this shit
Those are/will be some solid players, but the author needs to make it clear what he thinks a superstar is. Magloire has peaked, Nazr has VERY limited potential and anyone looks good next to TD (see Rasho), Kaman is a nice player but will never lead a team, and both Josh's are highlight reels, and one has good shot blocking abilitiy, neither will lead a team or average over 22ppg (smith might just)...
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I really hope with Phill and Scottie teaching Odom that he will become a better player but i doubt it.My saying is if your a soft player from the begining you will always be soft and become a follower instead of a leader.
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lol..funny list
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Headlined....but last on the list...hmm...lol
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yeah i agree that odom is kinda soft
he has the size and skills to create mismatches but i dont see him utilizing his size enough
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Lamar Odom made C.migm Pick up 3 fouls in the first 7 minutes Last night :grumpy: but other then that he had a great game 8)
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
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Man why have to twist my opinions to support your arguments? First of all we was talking about who's better between Odom/Brown and Artest. First fact: Brown is not even in that list. Second fact: Artest is already in the NBA superstars list. Third fact: Odom is in the "maybe one day they'll be superstars" list. So stop acting stupid trying to have a point just cause Odom made that list (lol and the author said he's in that list mostly because of Phil coaching him). Plus, i've never said Odom cant develope into a good/great player: he has all the tools. I've always said that he's soft, that his attitude on the floor is wack, that he has never carried a team over his shoulders. I judge players from what they've done on the floor. Brown is a bust, and Odom is coming from a very negative season where he disappointed me. I'll still do the Artest vs Brown/Odom move.
Odom disappointed you? I remember last season you were talking about how Odom is one of the only Lakers still holding it down and performing well...Hell, under the conditions he was in, 10 rebounds and 15 points IS well. Something is wrong with you. Why are you so happy to not see Kwame Brown on that list? I thought you were a true Laker fans...I guess I was wrong.
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Nazr Mohammed, Jamaal Magloire, Kaman, Josh Childress, Josh Smith? wtf is this shit
Those are/will be some solid players, but the author needs to make it clear what he thinks a superstar is. Magloire has peaked, Nazr has VERY limited potential and anyone looks good next to TD (see Rasho), Kaman is a nice player but will never lead a team, and both Josh's are highlight reels, and one has good shot blocking abilitiy, neither will lead a team or average over 22ppg (smith might just)...
You're right about Jamaal Magloire and Josh Childress. Nazr Mohammed is still young though and I can actually see him as one of the top centers in the leadue in the near future. Chris Kaman, as well, can be a key factor in the rise of the Clippers. Josh Smith might not be the greatest player ever, but his explosivness and high scoring ability might one day lead him to superstardom. Remember, the NBA revolves around showboats.
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
I respect this way more than anything Antonio has said about Odom in the last few weeks...And you're a Spurs fan.
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why is gordon not a starter anyways, fucking ridiculous.
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
I respect this way more than anything Antonio has said about Odom in the last few weeks...And you're a Spurs fan.
Actually it's the same exact thing, since i fully agree with him.
ODOM HAS HAD A TON OF POTENTIAL
BUT HE'S NEVER REALLY LIVED UP TO IT
MAYBE HAVING PIPPEN THERE TO HELP OUT WILL WORK.. who knows.
BUT I WOULDNT COUND ON IT till i see it.
100% correct. Now stop bitching.
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yeah i agree that odom is kinda soft
he has the size and skills to create mismatches but i dont see him utilizing his size enough
Another thing i've said. 100% correct. Again, stop bitching.
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I really hope with Phill and Scottie teaching Odom that he will become a better player but i doubt it.My saying is if your a soft player from the begining you will always be soft and become a follower instead of a leader.
And again.
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
I respect this way more than anything Antonio has said about Odom in the last few weeks...And you're a Spurs fan.
Actually it's the same exact thing, since i fully agree with him.
ODOM HAS HAD A TON OF POTENTIAL
BUT HE'S NEVER REALLY LIVED UP TO IT
MAYBE HAVING PIPPEN THERE TO HELP OUT WILL WORK.. who knows.
BUT I WOULDNT COUND ON IT till i see it.
100% correct. Now stop bitching.
Actually, you never even said Pippen might help, you just completely disregarded any skill Odom posesses and basically belittled him. A Laker fan like me is optimistic about the triangle plan with Odom handeling the ball and Kobe playing on the wing. ToNe is a Spurs fan, and he still has a more optimistic opinion about Lamar Odom than you do...LOL
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LOL...Do you realize that you're quoting the people who AREN'T Laker fans and agreeing with them? What does that tell you...
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yeaaaaaaa Bosh! Raptors do have a hope ;D
CB4= the next superstar fo sho. (and don't ya'll forget it)
Seem like only yesterday everyone was hating on Odom.
I don't think he'll be a superstar, but I hope he truely does excel next to Kobe.
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Sorry NIB but I still stand by my statement, Josh Smith, Chris Kaman and Nazr are not going to be NBA Superstars. Kaman will be a good role player AT BEST, lets see if he can stay healthy. I've watched every Nazr game since he came to the Knicks (obviously not all his games since he was a Spur) and he is simply not that good. Lacks leadership skills, and lacks motivation. Plays a good quarter and then dissapears. Strong offensive rebounder, but pathetic on the other end, and has 1 post move. Cant knock down a mid range jumpshot and is not a good passer. He is not that young anymore (28 turning 29), and you cant expect more than he has done thus far in his career. 'Top centre' in the league? No. That will be Yao, Amare (depending on how u classify him), Curry, Chandler/Dalambert in a stretch (forgive me if I forgot someone)... he is efficient around the bucket, but has bad hands and lacks strenght...
I seriously cant believe someone had him in a list for future stars...
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LOL...Do you realize that you're quoting the people who AREN'T Laker fans and agreeing with them? What does that tell you...
that we're winning ;D
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
I respect this way more than anything Antonio has said about Odom in the last few weeks...And you're a Spurs fan.
Actually it's the same exact thing, since i fully agree with him.
ODOM HAS HAD A TON OF POTENTIAL
BUT HE'S NEVER REALLY LIVED UP TO IT
MAYBE HAVING PIPPEN THERE TO HELP OUT WILL WORK.. who knows.
BUT I WOULDNT COUND ON IT till i see it.
100% correct. Now stop bitching.
Actually, you never even said Pippen might help, you just completely disregarded any skill Odom posesses and basically belittled him. A Laker fan like me is optimistic about the triangle plan with Odom handeling the ball and Kobe playing on the wing. ToNe is a Spurs fan, and he still has a more optimistic opinion about Lamar Odom than you do...LOL
No he doesnt. He said the same things i've always said. I've called him a soft guy. I've called him a menthally wack guy. I've called him a follower/not a leader. I've said he doesnt know how to use mismatches. I've said he doesnt play with passion, like for example Jumaine Jones. I've said he's not a great defender. I never said he sucks. About Pippen and the triangle, for sure they are the best thing to happens in his life to Odom. Even a fool can improve in a great system like triangle and working with the best point forward ever. Just like Bynum can improve working with Jabbar, or Kobe working with James Worthy. I've always judged Odom from his previous season, not from his next one, lol. So stop making yourself looks like a fool, please, it's pretty embarassing. Peace.
Maybe it's you who didnt understand
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Odom is a huge underachiever anyways. Comin into the pro's he had a ton of potential...but he's never really lived up to it. Maybe havin Pippen there to help out will work...who knows. But i wouldnt count on it till i see it.
I respect this way more than anything Antonio has said about Odom in the last few weeks...And you're a Spurs fan.
Actually it's the same exact thing, since i fully agree with him.
ODOM HAS HAD A TON OF POTENTIAL
BUT HE'S NEVER REALLY LIVED UP TO IT
MAYBE HAVING PIPPEN THERE TO HELP OUT WILL WORK.. who knows.
BUT I WOULDNT COUND ON IT till i see it.
100% correct. Now stop bitching.
Actually, you never even said Pippen might help, you just completely disregarded any skill Odom posesses and basically belittled him. A Laker fan like me is optimistic about the triangle plan with Odom handeling the ball and Kobe playing on the wing. ToNe is a Spurs fan, and he still has a more optimistic opinion about Lamar Odom than you do...LOL
No he doesnt. He said the same things i've always said. I've called him a soft guy. I've called him a menthally wack guy. I've called him a follower/not a leader. I've said he doesnt know how to use mismatches. I've said he doesnt play with passion, like for example Jumaine Jones. I've said he's not a great defender. I never said he sucks. About Pippen and the triangle, for sure they are the best thing to happens in his life to Odom. Even a fool can improve in a great system like triangle and working with the best point forward ever. Just like Bynum can improve working with Jabbar, or Kobe working with James Worthy. I've always judged Odom from his previous season, not from his next one, lol. So stop making yourself looks like a fool, please, it's pretty embarassing. Peace.
Maybe it's you who didnt understand
I'm the one who looks like a fool, yet we have ToNe happy that he finally initiated a "Laker fan".
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No he doesnt. He said the same things i've always said. I never said he sucks.
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Fuck Odom, this dude is wack. He's too fucking soft, damn!
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So? How many times do i have to explain you the same things? (menthally) Wack. Soft. Those two things, i've repeated them 300 times. Give it up.
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So? How many times do i have to explain you the same things? (menthally) Wack. Soft. Those two things, i've repeated them 300 times. Give it up.
Give what up? I've already exposed you as a fraud. ToNe confirmed it by reply 25.
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Man you're truly lost.
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Man you're truly lost.
I'm lost, yet you're a "Laker fan" who gave up hope on the Lakers this season before the season even began. :-X