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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on October 26, 2005, 01:27:26 PM
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This trade isn't anything big, but it's a really good trade for the Lakers, not because they got anything in return, but because they can now keep Laron Profit and Devin Green, both who would help the Lakers more than Jumain Jones...And at least we got a 2nd round pick, which is better than just cutting Jones for nothing in return. Remember, players like Van Exel, Ginobli, Ben Wallace, Trevor Ariza etc. were picked in the second round...I'm not saying the Lakers will get a chance to pick a player like that, but at least they cleared up a roster spot without any significant losses to the team... Current roster:
Smush Parker...Aaron McKie/Sasha Vujacic/Von Wafer
Kobe Bryant...Laron Profit/Devin Green/Tony Bobbit
Lamar Odom...Devean George/Luke Walton
Kwame Brown...Brian Cook/Slava Medvadenko/Corie Blount
Chris Mihm...Andrew Bynum/Adam Parada
Coach: Phil Jackson
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No biggie
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No biggie
True, but I liked jones. I thought he could've played his role pretty good with the lakers.
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Horrible trade. Jumaine Jones was coming from the best season of his career, and all we have in return is a 2nd round pick? Plus Jones was the only member in the actual roster who can hit the 3 and defend hard at the same time. Really horrible trade.
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LOL@horrible trade. Jones was obviously not gunna get much playing time under Phil. The Lakers had no use for him anymore, it's better than just cutting him. Lamar Odom and Devean George will obviously get the most minutes at the small forward spot, Luke Walton will be coming off the bench and also filling in a good amount of minutes at the 3...Then we have Laron Profit, Devin Green, and Sasha Vuvajic, all who are gunna be playing some minutes at the four. That leaves no room for Jumain Jones...I much rather see Devin Green developing and playing 5-15 mins a game at the SF position than Jumain Jones subsiding and playing 5-15 minutes a game at the SF position.
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LOL@horrible trade. Jones was obviously not gunna get much playing time under Phil. The Lakers had no use for him anymore, it's better than just cutting him. Lamar Odom and Devean George will obviously get the most minutes at the small forward spot, Luke Walton will be coming off the bench and also filling in a good amount of minutes at the 3...Then we have Laron Profit, Devin Green, and Sasha Vuvajic, all who are gunna be playing some minutes at the four. That leaves no room for Jumain Jones...I much rather see Devin Green developing and playing 5-15 mins a game at the SF position than Jumain Jones subsiding and playing 5-15 minutes a game at the SF position.
I agree. JJ would not have gotten much playing time behind Odom, DG and Luke. It would have been nice if we could have packaged him, Vlade's expiring K, and Slava/Cook for a decent Big but I'm sure teams would really salavate over a deal like that.
You can look at this the same way as back in '99, when we unloaded NVE and the Kobe stopper. I hated seeing them leave, but it had to happen to fit the plan.
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I'm not surpriced...jj had his try-out last season when the Lakers started running the Triangle offence in the middle of the season,HE FAILED..he doesn't know the triangle offence,he doesn't fit the offence,in the triangle offence most of your shots will be on the move,JJ is not a good shooter when he has to do that,i remember he shot a couple of airballs last season when he was in the pinch post and had to turn around and shoot the ball...he's a spot up shooter..he'll be perfect for the suns or mavs,he could shoot all the 3's he want with them
SF: L,Odom/D,George/L.Walton-----D.George and walton know the in & outs of the offence,and Lamar Odom wil get there soon 8)
plus the lakers only had 1 spot left and 3 guys were fighting for it...you could x out jj now,say goodbye to C.Blunt,so D.Green who's playing really good will get that last spot
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It's like whatever the lakers were stacked with a bunch of small fowards anyways. Don't sleep on Devon George. He plays good under Phil.
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LOL@horrible trade. Jones was obviously not gunna get much playing time under Phil.
That doesnt mean he's worth just a 2nd rounder.
The Lakers had no use for him anymore, it's better than just cutting him.
But not better than trading him.
Lamar Odom and Devean George will obviously get the most minutes at the small forward spot, Luke Walton will be coming off the bench and also filling in a good amount of minutes at the 3...Then we have Laron Profit, Devin Green, and Sasha Vuvajic, all who are gunna be playing some minutes at the four. That leaves no room for Jumain Jones...I much rather see Devin Green developing and playing 5-15 mins a game at the SF position than Jumain Jones subsiding and playing 5-15 minutes a game at the SF position.
It's just the fact that we got nothing in return, man. Who'll shoot from 3pts? Who'll open defences? Who'll play hard defence? You?
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LOL@horrible trade. Jones was obviously not gunna get much playing time under Phil.
That doesnt mean he's worth just a 2nd rounder.
The Lakers had no use for him anymore, it's better than just cutting him.
But not better than trading him.
Lamar Odom and Devean George will obviously get the most minutes at the small forward spot, Luke Walton will be coming off the bench and also filling in a good amount of minutes at the 3...Then we have Laron Profit, Devin Green, and Sasha Vuvajic, all who are gunna be playing some minutes at the four. That leaves no room for Jumain Jones...I much rather see Devin Green developing and playing 5-15 mins a game at the SF position than Jumain Jones subsiding and playing 5-15 minutes a game at the SF position.
It's just the fact that we got nothing in return, man. Who'll shoot from 3pts? Who'll open defences? Who'll play hard defence? You?
LMAO
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LOL@horrible trade. Jones was obviously not gunna get much playing time under Phil.
That doesnt mean he's worth just a 2nd rounder.
The Lakers had no use for him anymore, it's better than just cutting him.
But not better than trading him.
Lamar Odom and Devean George will obviously get the most minutes at the small forward spot, Luke Walton will be coming off the bench and also filling in a good amount of minutes at the 3...Then we have Laron Profit, Devin Green, and Sasha Vuvajic, all who are gunna be playing some minutes at the four. That leaves no room for Jumain Jones...I much rather see Devin Green developing and playing 5-15 mins a game at the SF position than Jumain Jones subsiding and playing 5-15 minutes a game at the SF position.
It's just the fact that we got nothing in return, man. Who'll shoot from 3pts? Who'll open defences? Who'll play hard defence? You?
WTF? LOL...It doesn't matter if he's not worth a 2nd rounder, nobody was gunna trade a player worth acquiring for him, so the Lakers traded him for a 2nd round pick, and more importantly, a roster spot so we can sign Devin Green. It basically came down to who we wanted to keep, and we have a lot of talented new guys, like Devin Green, Von Wafer, Laron Profit, etc. all who I'd like to see get a roster spot over Jumain Jones...And best of all, we got a draft pick (from a team that will get an early pick) for practically cutting a player...The trade is nothing significant, but it definitely was a smart move...PeACe
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smush parker is playing great and will be are 3 point shooter,he's shooting 54% from the field and 41% from the 3 point line..4 better then chuky atkins who shot 37 % last season from 3 point line and defensevly smush is way better and more physical
and BTW JJ avg a career high in 3 point % last season..hmmmm i wonder why?
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WTF? LOL...It doesn't matter if he's not worth a 2nd rounder, nobody was gunna trade a player worth acquiring for him, so the Lakers traded him for a 2nd round pick, and more importantly, a roster spot so we can sign Devin Green. It basically came down to who we wanted to keep, and we have a lot of talented new guys, like Devin Green, Von Wafer, Laron Profit, etc. all who I'd like to see get a roster spot over Jumain Jones...And best of all, we got a draft pick (from a team that will get an early pick) for practically cutting a player...The trade is nothing significant, but it definitely was a smart move...PeACe
Smart move my ass. Is it smart to have a player coming from the best season of his career locked in your roster till the end of october and then to realize you dont really need him but and undrafted tattoed player named Green? And is it smart to send him to Bobcats for just a 2nd rounder in return to make space for Green? If it is, i'd rather be dumb than smart. Instead than nothing in return, why not trading Jones and Medvedenko to Minnesota for let's say Sprewell? Salaries match. That's a smart move we should have done. Not sending him to Bobcats for free. A 2nd round draft pick aint helping our team when the NBA starts. And we def need help.
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smush parker is playing great and will be are 3 point shooter,he's shooting 54% from the field and 41% from the 3 point line..4 better then chuky atkins who shot 37 % last season from 3 point line and defensevly smush is way better and more physical
and BTW JJ avg a career high in 3 point % last season..hmmmm i wonder why?
That's just crazy how some of you will spit on the face of the same players we loved just a couple of months ago. Jones was a fan favourite last season, an huge surprise, the best of the season. Now all of a sudden he was overrated? Just because Phil didnt use him in his triangle rotation? I understand that we had to trade him, cause it was pointless to keep him. But please dont disrespect the player Jones. He was my fav player last year (i've even had an avatar with his pic for a couple of days). And to compare him with a PG is pointless.
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The Lakers will get the Bobcats' second-round pick in two years unless Charlotte has one of the five best records in the NBA this season. If that happens, the pick goes to the Phoenix Suns and the Lakers would get Charlotte's second-round pick in 2008.
So basically we traded him for the Bobcats 2007 2nd round draft pick? :o
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WTF? LOL...It doesn't matter if he's not worth a 2nd rounder, nobody was gunna trade a player worth acquiring for him, so the Lakers traded him for a 2nd round pick, and more importantly, a roster spot so we can sign Devin Green. It basically came down to who we wanted to keep, and we have a lot of talented new guys, like Devin Green, Von Wafer, Laron Profit, etc. all who I'd like to see get a roster spot over Jumain Jones...And best of all, we got a draft pick (from a team that will get an early pick) for practically cutting a player...The trade is nothing significant, but it definitely was a smart move...PeACe
Smart move my ass. Is it smart to have a player coming from the best season of his career locked in your roster till the end of october and then to realize you dont really need him but and undrafted tattoed player named Green? And is it smart to send him to Bobcats for just a 2nd rounder in return to make space for Green? If it is, i'd rather be dumb than smart. Instead than nothing in return, why not trading Jones and Medvedenko to Minnesota for let's say Sprewell? Salaries match. That's a smart move we should have done. Not sending him to Bobcats for free. A 2nd round draft pick aint helping our team when the NBA starts. And we def need help.
You are obviously an idiot. I used to think you were one of the smarter posters regarding basketball, but after seeing some of the shit you've said lately, I REALLY have to take that back. Jumaine Jones didn't have the "best season of his career" as you keep repeating. That woulda' been his two seasons in Celeveland. His contract was expiring at the end of this season and he wasn't providing anything in the triangle...Unlike Jones, Devin Green has upside. He can easily become a player like Bobby Simmons, probably even more...The Lakers currently have 18 spots filled. When season starts, they can only have 15. Jumaine was obviously going to get cut, at least we recieved a pick in exchange...In addition, sign-and-trade deals the Lakers have proposed to Minnesota have fallen through, so what makes you think Jumaine Jones and Medvadenko would be accepted for Latrell Sprewell? I know you don't understand the meaning of the word logical, but the trade was just that...
The Lakers reduced their logjam at small forward by one Wednesday, sending Jumaine Jones to the Charlotte Bobcats for a conditional second-round draft pick.
The pick is contingent on where the Bobcats finish this season. The Lakers will receive Charlotte's second pick in the 2006 NBA Draft provided the Bobcats don't finish with one of the five best records in the league. If they do, the Lakers will get Charlotte's 2007 second-round pick, with Phoenix getting this year's.
Jones played one year with the Lakers after being acquired from Boston along with Chris Mihm and Chucky Atkins for Gary Payton, Rick Fox and a future first-round draft pick. He averaged 7.6 points and 5.2 rebounds in 76 games last season.
But with Devean George and Luke Walton, two other small forwards with experience under Phil Jackson and more versed in the triangle offense, Jones was a logical player to move via a trade.
From the Bobcats' standpoint, Jones was attractive because he's in the last year of his contract.
"I told the team it's certainly no indication of the best player or the most liked or disliked or least valuable player that we sent away," Jackson said. "It's a situation where sometimes contracts are more amenable to other teams and some players are more moveable."
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The Lakers will get the Bobcats' second-round pick in two years unless Charlotte has one of the five best records in the NBA this season. If that happens, the pick goes to the Phoenix Suns and the Lakers would get Charlotte's second-round pick in 2008.
So basically we traded him for the Bobcats 2007 2nd round draft pick? :o
No, you misunderstood. We will be getting Charlottes 2nd round pick in the next draft. If they miraculously happen to achieve one of the 5 best records in the NBA, that pick goes to Phoenix and we get their 2nd round pick in 2007 instead...PeACe
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You are obviously an idiot. I used to think you were one of the smarter posters regarding basketball, but after seeing some of the shit you've said lately, I REALLY have to take that back. Jumaine Jones didn't have the "best season of his career" as you keep repeating. That woulda' been his two seasons in Celeveland. His contract was expiring at the end of this season and he wasn't providing anything in the triangle...Unlike Jones, Devin Green has upside. He can easily become a player like Bobby Simmons, probably even more...The Lakers currently have 18 spots filled. When season starts, they can only have 15. Jumaine was obviously going to get cut, at least we recieved a pick in exchange...
I already said i accept the fact it was pointless to keep him if he was out of rotation. I was just expecting something better than a 2nd round pick in return. It looks like the Kareem Rush trade you hated so much. But this time it's my fav player being traded for basically nothing. I know Rush was young and shit, i aint comparing them, but it's just pointless to have both Jones and George who will leave us in 12 months and to receive just a 2nd rounder in return.
In addition, sign-and-trade deals the Lakers have proposed to Minnesota have fallen through, so what makes you think Jumaine Jones and Medvadenko would be accepted for Latrell Sprewell? I know you don't understand the meaning of the word logical, but the trade was just that...
Actually the Lakers never made official offers to the Wolves, according to all the insiders. They just talked with Spree's agent, who refused the half MLE offer because he wanted the full. For Minnesota it could have been better than just loosing Spree with nothing in return.
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I already said i accept the fact it was pointless to keep him if he was out of rotation. I was just expecting something better than a 2nd round pick in return. It looks like the Kareem Rush trade you hated so much. But this time it's my fav player being traded for basically nothing. I know Rush was young and shit, i aint comparing them, but it's just pointless to have both Jones and George who will leave us in 12 months and to receive just a 2nd rounder in return.
Jumaine Jones had no trade value. If he did get traded, it wouldn't be for a good enough player, and our roster is already packed...Kareem Rush was a hot young developing prospect with future all-star hopes when we traded him. That's not even a comparable scenerio...
Actually the Lakers never made official offers to the Wolves, according to all the insiders. They just talked with Spree's agent, who refused the half MLE offer because he wanted the full. For Minnesota it could have been better than just loosing Spree with nothing in return.
Actually, the Lakers could only offer the $1.1 mil, unless they completed a sign-and-trade. Minnesota didn't find any tradable players worthy of a sign-and-trade, maybe it could've been better for Minnesota if they did, but they didn't...PeACe
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Jumaine Jones had no trade value. If he did get traded, it wouldn't be for a good enough player, and our roster is already packed...Kareem Rush was a hot young developing prospect with future all-star hopes when we traded him. That's not even a comparable scenerio...
"I know Rush was young and shit, i aint comparing them"..
Actually, the Lakers could only offer the $1.1 mil, unless they completed a sign-and-trade. Minnesota didn't find any tradable players worthy of a sign-and-trade, maybe it could've been better for Minnesota if they did, but they didn't...PeACe
Did we offer them Jumaine Jones?
P.S. A 2nd round pick for George and Jones still sucks. Since the plan is to develope young players why not trading them both for a good player? Maybe Magloire?
Parker, Odom, Kobe, Magloire, Brown.
(McKie, Profit, Walton, Cook, Mihm)
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Jumaine Jones had no trade value. If he did get traded, it wouldn't be for a good enough player, and our roster is already packed...Kareem Rush was a hot young developing prospect with future all-star hopes when we traded him. That's not even a comparable scenerio...
"I know Rush was young and shit, i aint comparing them"..
Actually, the Lakers could only offer the $1.1 mil, unless they completed a sign-and-trade. Minnesota didn't find any tradable players worthy of a sign-and-trade, maybe it could've been better for Minnesota if they did, but they didn't...PeACe
Did we offer them Jumaine Jones?
P.S. A 2nd round pick for George and Jones still sucks. Since the plan is to develope young players why not trading them both for a good player? Maybe Magloire?
Parker, Odom, Kobe, Magloire, Brown.
(McKie, Profit, Walton, Cook, Mihm)
Are you fucking out of your mind? What the fuck makes you think that New Orleans would trade Magloire for George+Jones...LOLLL. The Lakers already trageted Magloire, offering Caron Butler and a pick, but New Orleans wanted Chris Mihm as well...The Lakers definitely didn't wanna do that, so trade talks for Magloire fell through...Get it through your head, Jones is not trade worthy. Shit, he'd get cut from most NBA rosters. No one would trade for a player like Jones, unless they REALLY weren't losing anything...PeACe
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The Lakers will get the Bobcats' second-round pick in two years unless Charlotte has one of the five best records in the NBA this season. If that happens, the pick goes to the Phoenix Suns and the Lakers would get Charlotte's second-round pick in 2008.
So basically we traded him for the Bobcats 2007 2nd round draft pick? :o
No, you misunderstood. We will be getting Charlottes 2nd round pick in the next draft. If they miraculously happen to achieve one of the 5 best records in the NBA, that pick goes to Phoenix and we get their 2nd round pick in 2007 instead...PeACe
The Los Angeles Lakers have traded forward Jumaine Jones to the Charlotte Bobcats for a 2007 second round draft pick, it was announced Wednesday by General Manager Mitch Kupchak.
www.lakers.com ???
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The pick is contingent on where the Bobcats finish this season. The Lakers will receive Charlotte's second pick in the 2006 NBA Draft provided the Bobcats don't finish with one of the five best records in the league. If they do, the Lakers will get Charlotte's 2007 second-round pick, with Phoenix getting this year's.
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Ok. ;)