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Title: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: late night on November 14, 2005, 12:40:57 AM
i dont know if you all ever discussed this but wazup with "all eyes on me" and "street dreams" they both have the same beats (street dreams is a little different, but only a little).... who stole the beat from who???
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Shahizzle on November 14, 2005, 03:38:13 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Okka on November 14, 2005, 03:44:37 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

Whatcha talkin about? "Street Dreams" wasn't on Stillmatic  ::)
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Elevz on November 14, 2005, 03:51:41 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: MIC on November 14, 2005, 03:53:03 AM
i dont know if you all ever discussed this but wazup with "all eyes on me" and "street dreams" they both have the same beats (street dreams is a little different, but only a little).... who stole the beat from who???

They both "stole" it from Linda Clifford's "Never Gonna Stop".
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Elevz on November 14, 2005, 03:54:03 AM
i dont know if you all ever discussed this but wazup with "all eyes on me" and "street dreams" they both have the same beats (street dreams is a little different, but only a little).... who stole the beat from who???

They both "stole" it from Linda Clifford's "Never Gonna Stop".

Someone must have first came with the idea for sampling that though.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: makaveli11 on November 14, 2005, 05:38:46 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
They were not particularly talking about pac. Also I have heard more than one instances where rappers used the same sample for one of their songs in the same year. It happens all the time. Example: the sample used for the 'The Roach' on the chronic was also used on one of the last few songs in The predator. Both the predator and chronic was released in 1992l
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: makaveli11 on November 14, 2005, 05:42:28 AM
i dont know if you all ever discussed this but wazup with "all eyes on me" and "street dreams" they both have the same beats (street dreams is a little different, but only a little).... who stole the beat from who???

They both "stole" it from Linda Clifford's "Never Gonna Stop".

Someone must have first came with the idea for sampling that though.
Plus didnt All Eyez On Me come out first. It was recorded in two weeks. So I not sure about pac going to nas to steal the beat. I find that hghly unlikely and I dont know what you are talking about deathrow stealing beats or samples from other record labels or artists. :-\
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: hempside on November 14, 2005, 11:45:53 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
Nigga are you crazy!!!get your shit striaght homie befor talking...death row did not have to still beats.come on!!! look who they had....-------Dre,Daz, "JJ",Quick,sam seed,hurtem bad ect.....stop sending false info nigga.......this was the time when nas was all on pacs dick,but had a hard time saying he fucked with pac...respect to nas m,ayne......but that track belongs to PAC(he riped that shit).
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: MarshColin on November 14, 2005, 01:58:52 PM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
Nigga are you crazy!!!get your shit striaght homie befor talking...death row did not have to still beats.come on!!! look who they had....-------Dre,Daz, "JJ",Quick,sam seed,hurtem bad ect.....stop sending false info nigga.......this was the time when nas was all on pacs dick,but had a hard time saying he fucked with pac...respect to nas m,ayne......but that track belongs to PAC(he riped that shit).

You obviously don't know the story behind Toss It Up then, because on the original version of the song Pac is CLAIMIN to take the beat saying "Ya we took ya beat!" I think on the released version on Makaveli it still has those vocals but the beat is different. I think for Pac's GH they took those vocals off though.

In regards to the Nas song, they both sampled the same song. It's possible that one camp heard the other's and then decided to sample the same song but it's also possible it's coincidence.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Suga Foot on November 14, 2005, 02:03:21 PM
It could have been that they were made months or years prior to the release, submitted, and waited for clearance on the sample, and both samples were cleared at the same time.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: GangstaBoogy on November 14, 2005, 02:08:19 PM
another death row mystery that will never be solved
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Ðøšïå on November 14, 2005, 02:47:54 PM
didnt pac say on that tupac live dvd that he took his beat?
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: MarshColin on November 14, 2005, 04:25:03 PM
He was talking about Troublesome when he said that. I have no idea whats the story with that.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: BOX5 the best poster on this site yell on November 14, 2005, 04:49:19 PM
AY california love that video thats out in the dessert is the beat epmd used for knicc knacc patty wacc,yet no one said he stole that hahaha,cats kill me with that shit,plus it's a sample anyway yell
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: AmeN-Ra on November 15, 2005, 03:20:43 AM
Just as an FYI - the beat was also used by UK 80's band 'The Eurythmics'......


- Ra
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Don Seer on November 15, 2005, 03:22:48 AM

ahh yes of course.. the title of that song was Sweet Dreams right.. links to nas's title..
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: acbaylove on November 15, 2005, 07:10:26 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
Nigga are you crazy!!!get your shit striaght homie befor talking...death row did not have to still beats.come on!!! look who they had....-------Dre,Daz, "JJ",Quick,sam seed,hurtem bad ect.....stop sending false info nigga.......this was the time when nas was all on pacs dick,but had a hard time saying he fucked with pac...respect to nas m,ayne......but that track belongs to PAC(he riped that shit).

You obviously don't know the story behind Toss It Up then, because on the original version of the song Pac is CLAIMIN to take the beat saying "Ya we took ya beat!" I think on the released version on Makaveli it still has those vocals but the beat is different. I think for Pac's GH they took those vocals off though.

In regards to the Nas song, they both sampled the same song. It's possible that one camp heard the other's and then decided to sample the same song but it's also possible it's coincidence.
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Elevz on November 15, 2005, 10:05:32 AM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

LMAO, that's a good one. I take it EPMD stole the "Let the funk flow" beat off Nas - Nastradamus too, because Chilltown New York was released AFTER Nastradamus?

On the real though... In the intro for "Nas is coming", Nas and Dre claim Pac stole the beat. Word around is, they're speaking the truth & Pac got a beat stolen from Nas' studio (you know what DeathRow was like back then). No one can really tell what's the truth there though.
Nigga are you crazy!!!get your shit striaght homie befor talking...death row did not have to still beats.come on!!! look who they had....-------Dre,Daz, "JJ",Quick,sam seed,hurtem bad ect.....stop sending false info nigga.......this was the time when nas was all on pacs dick,but had a hard time saying he fucked with pac...respect to nas m,ayne......but that track belongs to PAC(he riped that shit).

Are you fucking blind? Was I saying I was speaking facts? No, I was talking about rumours. Get your shit straight before talking...
Title: Re: 2pac "all eyez on me" & nas "street dreams" question...
Post by: Shahizzle on November 15, 2005, 03:25:26 PM
wel l.... All eyes on me was released about 7 years or so before stillmatic, so i take it nas stole it off 2pac or Johnny J (who produced All eyez on me, the track)

Whatcha talkin about? "Street Dreams" wasn't on Stillmatic  ::)

Aww my bad .. it was on It Was Written  ;D, silly mistake lol.