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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: min0rity on April 05, 2002, 02:37:04 AM
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yo could you tell this motherfucker to stop abusing his mod powers on the "illmatic vs 36 chambers" thread?? we're trying to have a discussion about why primo, rza, pete rock ain't overrated and this fool for no reason erased my post....man this is like the 928374389 time he did this, shit!!!
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lol if the post is about Illmatic Vs. 36 Chambers, u shouldnt be talkin about premier, RZa and so on. Im assuming u should start a new post on that.
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lol if the post is about Illmatic Vs. 36 Chambers, u shouldnt be talkin about premier, RZa and so on. Im assuming u should start a new post on that.
yeah i know but its funny cuz bigjake is the one that actualy started the primo, rza posts....and now he wants to shut them...hmmmmmm
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ok i've read it.. man bigjake... u got a ego problem, step off you u sound like ur living in a 'drizzay dre world' when u see that many people disagreeing with you you gotta see the balance is off kilter and re-evaluate your position.
You getting irrritated and threatening instead of backing it up is WEAK.
btw.. there wont be no flexing of powers anymore.. mod's DO NOT threaten with their powers to win an argument.
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for anyone who wants to disagree or whatever read the thread here.
http://forum.igangsta.com/cgi-bin/wcc/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1017428249
btw... There will be NO replacement at the current time, so don't solicit.
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ok i've read it.. man bigjake... u got a ego problem, step off you u sound like ur living in a 'drizzay dre world' when u see that many people disagreeing with you you gotta see the balance is off kilter and re-evaluate your position.
You getting irrritated and threatening instead of backing it up is WEAK.
btw.. there wont be no flexing of powers anymore.. mod's DO NOT threaten with their powers to win an argument.
bout time, that's what I was saying a long time ago around the time we voted on the mods. This is why I pushed for it, because he was abusing his powers as a mod when he was losing an argument with me and Y_A_D_R about Tha Row, he just deleted the majority of the thread to make it osund like he was winning.
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btw... There will be NO replacement at the current time, so don't solicit.
Make Me Mod....Now!!!! ;D
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bout time, that's what I was saying a long time ago around the time we voted on the mods. This is why I pushed for it, because he was abusing his powers as a mod when he was losing an argument with me and Y_A_D_R about Tha Row, he just deleted the majority of the thread to make it osund like he was winning.
true. i have had many complaints in the past. but... unless I can see it before my eyes i can't do anything.. this time its blatantly obvious, plus the actual threatening to 'flex powerz' tut tut tut
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Harsh, but its your board homie...
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harsh? man u think the mod's should run around threatening to delete peoples shit to win arguments?
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harsh? man u think the mod's should run around threatening to delete peoples shit to win arguments?
Word....Theres Been Plenty Of People Complain About BigJakes Moderating In The Past, From Loads Of Different People. Maybe He Just Gets Itchy Fingers Though?!
Overseer - I Dont See My Name As Moderator Yet.... :o :)
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No mods should'nt, but firstly, what was written that he deleted? No disrespect to Minority but he has a history of beefin and bad mouthin people, and look how many other cats in that post went off on complete character assasinations of Jake, where he lived etc, that isnt debating either, thats mad wack.
Anyway, like i said, its your board, and you've handled it how you see fit, i aint gonna argue the point...
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joachim i know ya don't wanna argue.. i'll answer ya points since this is gonna be a hot topic for the next day or so.
like i said above we can't tell what was deleted which is why I haven't been able to act on accusations in the past. since in this instance he straight out threatened to use his position to do that. its also plain to see what caused this was an overinflated ego.
the thread was on point till he fucked it up.
the personal shit didnt come until
*after* bigjake had taken it to that level first with everyone who disagreed with him, and when they fought back he had the nerve to say "stick to the topic", threatened to "flex powers" and took every other cheap shot he could... WEAK!
i guess wackness brews wackness since it all decended into the character assasinations and more bullshit from everyone.
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lol...i can"t believe my thread made all this mess....:)...i feel aprisiated now...lmao...j\k. ;D
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ouch....that sucks yo....anyway can i be mod now lol
-{bLaDe}
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ouch....that sucks yo....anyway can i be mod now lol
-{bLaDe}
no, ive been here longer
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No mods should'nt, but firstly, what was written that he deleted? No disrespect to Minority but he has a history of beefin and bad mouthin people, and look how many other cats in that post went off on complete character assasinations of Jake, where he lived etc, that isnt debating either, thats mad wack.
Anyway, like i said, its your board, and you've handled it how you see fit, i aint gonna argue the point...
dude if you read that topic...you can clearly see bigjake starting the whole thing read it from 1 to 4 fool...
also IT DON'T MATTER what was written that was deleted...but just for the record...what i wrote was some shit about how bigjake started an argument and all of a sudden he is in a wrong but can't admit it so he gotta resort to deleting posts and "flexing mod powers or whatever" which is gay for real
and whats my history got to do with this...DID I MAKE him write what he wrote on that thread??? NO so whatever the only people i cause beefs with is people i know (playing around)
overseer did something that a lot of people will appreciate cuz i ain't the only one complaining about this shit i mean damn i could name plenty of people that complain about this against bigjake in the past...
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ok i've read it.. man bigjake... u got a ego problem, step off you u sound like ur living in a 'drizzay dre world' when u see that many people disagreeing with you you gotta see the balance is off kilter and re-evaluate your position.
You getting irrritated and threatening instead of backing it up is WEAK.
WORD.......lmao @ his ego.
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this is the reason why i respect overseer
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its a shame that this action had to be taken... but bigjake needs to learn to accept other opinions without looking down at people...
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its a shame that this action had to be taken... but bigjake needs to learn to accept other opinions without looking down at people...
i agree man, this herb talks so much nonsense, and he has this sense of "hes better than us" cuz hes from cali, and takes mozart classes, that muthafucka is lucky he dont live in toronto...............
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joachim i know ya don't wanna argue.. i'll answer ya points since this is gonna be a hot topic for the next day or so.
like i said above we can't tell what was deleted which is why I haven't been able to act on accusations in the past. since in this instance he straight out threatened to use his position to do that. its also plain to see what caused this was an overinflated ego.
the thread was on point till he fucked it up.
the personal shit didnt come until
*after* bigjake had taken it to that level first with everyone who disagreed with him, and when they fought back he had the nerve to say "stick to the topic", threatened to "flex powers" and took every other cheap shot he could... WEAK!
i guess wackness brews wackness since it all decended into the character assasinations and more bullshit from everyone.
Fair enough, i cant defend the undefendable.
dude if you read that topic...you can clearly see bigjake starting the whole thing read it from 1 to 4 fool...
also IT DON'T MATTER what was written that was deleted...but just for the record...what i wrote was some shit about how bigjake started an argument and all of a sudden he is in a wrong but can't admit it so he gotta resort to deleting posts and "flexing mod powers or whatever" which is gay for real
and whats my history got to do with this...DID I MAKE him write what he wrote on that thread NO so whatever the only people i cause beefs with is people i know (playing around)
Check it, you call me a fool, then go on to say you only start beefs with cats you know, you just slapped yourself son...
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minority also said he was playing around^^^^^^^^^^
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Check it, you call me a fool, then go on to say you only start beefs with cats you know, you just slapped yourself son...
yo homie..i dont know what your problem is with me..but whatever youre trying to do (cause beef) just stop it now man......
it seems like you can't read very well since what i meant by that is i cause beef with people i know which i'm playing around so they know and i know its not serious...hell internet is not serious so calm down
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yo homie..i dont know what your problem is with me..but whatever youre trying to do (cause beef) just stop it now man......
it seems like you can't read very well since what i meant by that is i cause beef with people i know which i'm playing around so they know and i know its not serious...hell internet is not serious so calm down
You for real? First you call me a fool, then you say you dont want beef, then you say i cant read, and apparently im the one who wants internet beef, aight homie whatever you say...
I understood what you wrote, it was Prince Tech who misinterpreted it.
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You for real? First you call me a fool, then you say you dont want beef, then you say i cant read, and apparently im the one who wants internet beef, aight homie whatever you say...
I understood what you wrote, it was Prince Tech who misinterpreted it.
huh??? lol do you NOT understand english???
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huh??? lol do you NOT understand english???
Obviously not ::)
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man i ain't even going to fucking beg for this possition back but i will say this...IF i was such a bad moderator in the past...why did i get revoted in? to be honest with you that was the FIRST post i deleted in like 6 months the last thing i deleted was my own post where i thik i double posted...lol. but whatever... if y'all want to know what was in that post that got deleted it was something to the lines of this....." fuck you , you don't know shit about music, blh blah blah blah blah your a fucking jack ass , bakersfield sux, you suck , your mom sux, ect ect. ect.....all this when i said not once not twice, but 3 TIMES i would like it if this post would go back to the original question.....and i EVEN said if you want to argue this point in another post YOUR MORE THAN WELCOME to. i did the good thing in helping the post and board out like you said in the revotes. and didn't delete his shit to get the upper hand or ANYONE else for that matter becuas i OPENLY INVITED THEM TO MAKE ANOTHER post about them. that's petty i think to take away my mod possistion when the only people who hate me here are the ones who can't win an arguement with me. but like i said if you wanna take it away from me. fine fuckin fine, it's your board....you've even done shit like this in the past, trauma even done shit like this in the past , and it was ay ok.....
it would be one thing if i did what NIK did and just deleted posts for my own pleasure of winning an argument
but i freakking INVITED THEM TO OPEN ANOTHER THREAD , so it wouldn't mess up this thread, i even admitted i was wrong for blowing it up that big, and i warned them 3 times!!!!
uuuuuuuggg.....and again if you REALLY look at the situation here the only people here who hate me are the ones who don't like me becuase they lost an argument with me or are personally mad becuase i disagree with them about something i.e tech
let's go through a checklist here
tha7th-bone thugs n harmony argument
Minority-i forget why he does, but yo whatever it was i prooved i didn't do shit wrong, and YOU yourself overseer banned him from it
Tech-becuase i support the UK and US and don't agree with him politically
Mack 11-becuase i dislike deathrow and say and do the EXACT things you do/say in those posts but more frequently
i don't get it ....i honestly don't
in my mind i was doing what was right , and what YOU , OVERSEER , YOU wanted me to do, (which was help the thread out and TELL them (again) not once but 2 or 3 times , to stick to the topic now, and open another thread to debate in.....
and about me being arrogant and shit, fuck yeah i think i have a reason to be arrogant when i've experienced all this knowledge that 99% of you havn't execpt trauma or even tanjint....i even ended the debate and said whatever i'm done....the ony time i fucking responded back after that was to warn them AGAIN to stick to the topic and to defend myself/twon
i'm just doing what anyone else woulda done
i don't know if you have this or not, but in Multi media accademy our teacher has a message board for us and he can check a cache thingy of all the delted posts and you can see all the deleted posts and who deleted them....check it out overseer if you have it, i openly invite you to if you can, look and you'll see that big BPG or sikotik have just as much deleted posts , hey maybe even more than i do.....again i ain't trying to beg for my job back but i'm just giving you the facts...and if i was a bad moderator and had something to hide i wouldn't do that
anyways it's your board you pay for it, and it's obvious no one saw where i was coming from or how ...peace
PS FUCK THE HATERS!
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Man.. honestly i cant care less about your mod status. I mean i dont care about mods and shit, cause if a post is good, nobody will delete it. So everything is ok with me. I got mad respect for Overseer now (we had some little problems, but i think we fixed them). And i respect everyone in this board (but a kid changing his nickname 300x a day and replying to his own posts, or dissing other guys in his own sig! - LOL! How Gangsta! - You know who you are..)..
BUT.. i said Overseer a lot of times that you used this "power" too much, against me. You supposed to squash beefs and to keep the board clean, instead you dissed me in a lot of my old posts (just check them!!!!!!!!) where i was having my theory (and half of the guys agreed with me). About Snoop, not about you. I mean.. if you are a mod, you can have opinions, but DAMN U CANT DISS NOBODY! Cause that's in my opinion what a mod HAS to do: keep the board clean from wack disses!
If you cant do it, or if your character is too strong to not diss or diss back guys, just leave your mod status and continue to post. And there will be another mod regulating you writing you to stop if you go too ahead. You know what i mean? (sorry if it's not 100% english but i'm sleeping, lol!)
In one of them old posts i made, you called me IGNORANT cause i was having my own theory. You called me NIGGA in another one (lol). You dissed me and my mother in another one. And i dont remember other disses right now... Please go back to the archive of this board and check them. I aint lying. AND all that cause i was having a different opinion than you (saying that i didnt like Snoop Dogg). And i didnt diss you first.
In a message board, I can talk about everything. Cause i'm free to have opinions. I got rights to say everything i want (if i aint dissing you and if i post reasons too. I can diss 2Pac or DPG, i can diss Warren G or dickride a rapper. I can dickride Snoop and diss another rapper. IF I POST REASONS it's all cool cause you can reply with your own reasons! And agree or disagree and it's all cool! Cause we got a discussion! You know what i mean?). But you DONT have rights to say you are better than me, or than this other man. You DONT have rights to diss just cause you are a mod.
For real: while you still think about why he cut the mod status from you, check those old posts.
P.S.
This is in no way a diss. Fuck that. I'm cool with everyone. This is just a damn message board, not real life. I'm sure that in real life you are a damn cool man. Peace.
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damn yo , yall need too chill out or somedin.
I think its time for re-elections of mods ;D
not that theres anything wrong with the current mods, they doin a cool job, but I dono everynow n then Overseer should call like Random Mod Elections lol, catch every1 off guard.
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wow i gotta give props to joachim.. (i've always been down and agreed with this guy and what he had to say) , now that you've delt with Tech and Minority you can see where i'm coming from
anyways antonio.....yeah i arued with you and did it buligerently , but i do that with my own friends, even more so with my best bud chris, nothing personal it's just a disagreement...BUT i never deleted your post to win a fight did i? nope so really i never personally did nothing to you, and i really don't ever sayin anything bout your mom, and if i was it was all in the heat of the moment and something i forgot about, and i call everyone ignorant....becuase everyone literally is ignorant to something , me included.
whatever i seriously don't care about the mod thing i'm just pissed that i'm all the sudden this bad guy and i'm being punished for something so dumb, and so calculated by my enemies, and if you look in past posts minority has ALWAYS been out to get me , overseer even banned him once for it,lol, also i think it's gay that i'm bein punished and accused of abusing my powers when i didn't and when i said "i'm done with this discussion in this board, if you want to take it to another thread let's go, i want to get back to the real topic here" i said that like 3 times i beleive and people STILL weren't listening.....i was damned if i did and damned if i didn't , so fuck it
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wow i gotta give props to joachim.. (i've always been down and agreed with this guy and what he had to say) , now that you've delt with Tech and Minority you can see where i'm coming from
anyways antonio.....yeah i arued with you and did it buligerently , but i do that with my own friends, even more so with my best bud chris, nothing personal it's just a disagreement...BUT i never deleted your post to win a fight did i? nope so really i never personally did nothing to you, and i really don't ever sayin anything bout your mom, and if i was it was all in the heat of the moment and something i forgot about, and i call everyone ignorant....becuase everyone literally is ignorant to something , me included.
whatever i seriously don't care about the mod thing i'm just pissed that i'm all the sudden this bad guy and i'm being punished for something so dumb, and so calculated by my enemies, and if you look in past posts minority has ALWAYS been out to get me , overseer even banned him once for it,lol, also i think it's gay that i'm bein punished and accused of abusing my powers when i didn't and when i said "i'm done with this discussion in this board, if you want to take it to another thread let's go, i want to get back to the real topic here" i said that like 3 times i beleive and people STILL weren't listening.....i was damned if i did and damned if i didn't , so fuck it
You started the off-topic discussions by naming your ridiculous list of "overrated" producers... naturally people are gonna hit you back on that and tell you their opinion... and I didn't see one person agreeing with you... you'll be threatening other members with stupid shit like "Get back on topic or I'll flex my powers" when you started the off-topic discussions... simply put, you do not deserve to be a moderator
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First of all I never lost against u in dat bone thread......Dont make me link it......Yur ass listed like 20-30 hip hop groups that u considered made more impact than bone and made a fool outta yurself, everyone talked in them chatrooms about u cause u were makin a fool outta yurself.......
And secondly, I dun got no beef.......I waz just speaking on wats real, i waz just reading peoples responses about those album and boom there u were being all egotitical wit yur own lil oppinions and speakin on some bullshit that No One agreed wit.......I had 2 speak on it.
And u alwayz be deleting or lockin threads 4 yur own advantage, dun even sit there and pretend like u wasnt, be real 2 yurself........
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bring that shit up again, my 20 groups were waaaaaaaaay better than Bone, the only one who made a fool out of your self was you for not knowing who the u. mc's were, and who kool keith was. lol the ony people who would disagree with my list are he 3 bone fanatics we have on this board
and again what i was saying was ALLLLLL fact, i was giving and EDUCATED reason why i was saying all of that. it'd be one thing to say i think dj premier is overrated becuase i don't like him. i said like 23908472394729374 times i like him but he doesn't produce, and i proove my shit more than once, and i got a right to be arrogant when i've put in ALOT more work than all of you studying music...i've practically made that my life the past 2 years or so....so yeah of CORSE i'mmma be flamboiant....and i don't have no beef with you either...but your the one who started set trippin and dissing my town and coming in out of no where when i didn't do nothing to you
like you said get real and check your self while your at it
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oh yeah , and i don't lock HALF as many posts as BIG bpg and DOggystylin, and RUD do....and that's a fact that can be proven easily lol
and the last time i deleted anything....was so long ago i can't even remember, and i put that on my fucking balls and my balls sack, no crosses count , and if i'm lying i'm condeming my self to hell and tattooing the mark of the beast on me
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it would be one thing if i did what NIK did and just deleted posts for my own pleasure of winning an argument
WTF? I never deleted posts in my whole life, I only locked topics, and that was if people started un-hip-hop related arguments...I was mostly complained about as a moderater because people didnt personaly like me, not because I ever did a bad job...PS its bullshit to take away Big Jakes privlages...
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WTF? I never deleted posts in my whole life, I only locked topics, and that was if people started un-hip-hop related arguments...I was mostly complained about as a moderater because people didnt personaly like me, not because I ever did a bad job...PS its bullshit to take away Big Jakes privlages...
naw dude you misunderstood what i was saying, i shoulda reworded what i was tryin to say, i can see how you could take tha as a diss.
but on the real i know how it feels to get fucked becuase people personally don't likeyou
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oh yeah , and i don't lock HALF as many posts as BIG bpg and DOggystylin, and RUD do....and that's a fact that can be proven easily lol
Was My Name Capitalisation For Any Reason?
If I Lock A Thread I Give A Reason For Having Done So - So People Know Why And Who Did It
Ive Locked About 3 Or 4 Threads Since I Became Mod All Because They Were Pure Bullshit Or Beefs & I Have Deleted Probably 5 Posts (2 I Remeber Were By Accident And The Others Were Because They Were Either Out Of Line Or Just Unnaceptable)
I Got Voted In By People Like Yourself To Do A Job So I Try To Do It To The Best Of My Ability
OK I Accept Im Not Right Every Time - But : NO ONE Is Perfect
peace
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no no no rud i wasn't dissing you, i've told you a million times yur my homie from across the atlantic lol
i musta did that subconciously for the exact same reasons as i just said above
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oh yeah , and i don't lock HALF as many posts as BIG bpg and DOggystylin, and RUD do....and that's a fact that can be proven easily lol
and the last time i deleted anything....was so long ago i can't even remember, and i put that on my fucking balls and my balls sack, no crosses count , and if i'm lying i'm condeming my self to hell and tattooing the mark of the beast on me
why ya gotta bring me in this man? lol, i was keepin my mouth shut not havin anything to do with this and then pops up my name, and whats up with capatalizing the O, lol
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lol dunno, you know how my 'itchy finger' is i guess lol
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tha7th-bone thugs n harmony argument
Minority-i forget why he does, but yo whatever it was i prooved i didn't do shit wrong, and YOU yourself overseer banned him from it
Tech-becuase i support the UK and US and don't agree with him politically
Mack 11-becuase i dislike deathrow and say and do the EXACT things you do/say in those posts but more frequently
Logic - Hip Hop Producers Argument.... ;)
This Threads Hilarious....
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funny that bigjake tryin to claim that since everybody here think RZA is a dope producer, everybody is misseducated.. lol .. he's the only here with a brain ... i call that ignorant...
u claims to know all about producing .. what dont you make a hiphop beat and post it up, so that i can have a good laugh....
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good decision. i dont have any problem with jake but its clear hes an arrogant and over-opinionated egomaniac. Qualities that usually equal an unfair moderator.
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no no no rud i wasn't dissing you, i've told you a million times yur my homie from across the atlantic lol
Yea I Know ;)
peace
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basically Jake is a punk,
i dont have "beef" with you dumbass,
so what we have different political opinions, i debated with owen for example, and im cool with him,
me and i to da geezy have RADICALLY differing views from one another, but i dont insult him or "beef": with him
dont try to cop out, i cant stand u for the same reason everybody else cant, you got an ego that needs to be checked, maybe being in a position of power on a message board gives u some kind of perverted thrill, but that shit needs to stop,
i dont care if u love george bush
i dont care if u hate daz
just dont try to pull no funny shit, thats the real, so you can mention my name, put up excuses, try to cop out, but at the end of the day you're still...as the homie LOCO put it an
"arrogant and over-opinionted egomaniac"
go back into your corner, sonny
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I saw the whole thing from beggining to end? What did Jake do that was so wrong? He stated his reason to back up his opinion and then later decided to say if u guys wanna KEEP talkin about that they should make a new thread but instead u guys kept talkin about it there and Jake wasnt responding but saying he will lock it up if u guys KEEP talkin about the Producers and not about Illmatic vs 36 Chambers, IMO he was just trying to keep the board clean but i guess people just hate jake
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^^^if hes tryin to keep the board clean why did he even bring up that whole over rated producers shit.......
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^^^if hes tryin to keep the board clean why did he even bring up that whole over rated producers shit.......
Maybe he was trying to make another point why Illmatic was better than 36 chambers. and people started goin off at him. SO he had defend his reason and then I guess he realized this is gettin out of control
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I saw the whole thing from beggining to end? What did Jake do that was so wrong? He stated his reason to back up his opinion and then later decided to say if u guys wanna KEEP talkin about that they should make a new thread but instead u guys kept talkin about it there and Jake wasnt responding but saying he will lock it up if u guys KEEP talkin about the Producers and not about Illmatic vs 36 Chambers, IMO he was just trying to keep the board clean but i guess people just hate jake
lemme break it down for you, cuz obviously, you didnt check the facts
1. I Geezy asked if illmatic of 36 chambers is the better album
2. BigJake said illmatic AND that RZA is overrated...
3. i asked him if he really ment that
4. He said yes
5. i asked him why he consider RZA as overrated .. (still no beef in air)
6. he asig becuz RZA is to simplistic +he added a bunch of top producers to the overrated list
7. "no offense.. but it seems like you know absolutley nothing about prooducing..." .. <-- thats exactly what i said .. and i explained why RZA is so dope
8. He replied wit: excuse me HOW many fucking music appreciation classes have you taken?? how many fucking production classes have you taken?? when the fuck did you get a scolorship to study musicology, how many hours have you spent disecting and studying the works of Bach, Betoveen, Mostsart, and all the great composers with professionals with degrees in this field........i got 50 bucks that says you've done sqaut in this area
as u see, Bigjake went off topic frst, claiming that RZA is overrated... when i said that it seems like he dont know much about producing, he started bragging about his scholarship, about how much he listened to classic music, and shit, not knowing that i probably listens to more classic music than he does..
so tell me: who wrnt off topic and who started the beef?
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^^^thats the real
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^^^thats the real
yup
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Maybe he was trying to make another point why Illmatic was better than 36 chambers. and people started goin off at him. SO he had defend his reason and then I guess he realized this is gettin out of control
What pisses me off is that he calls every single person that disagrees with him "ignorant" when his own ignorance/arrogance is unbelieveable... please don't defend him.
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in reason number 7 he also said "this isnt a diss to you" or something like that but oh well
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in reason number 7 he also said "this isnt a diss to you" or something like that but oh well
num 8 not num 7 ;)
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num 8 not num 7 ;)
lol thanx homie
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anyways antonio.....yeah i arued with you and did it buligerently , but i do that with my own friends, even more so with my best bud chris, nothing personal it's just a disagreement...BUT i never deleted your post to win a fight did i? nope so really i never personally did nothing to you, and i really don't ever sayin anything bout your mom, and if i was it was all in the heat of the moment and something i forgot about, and i call everyone ignorant....becuase everyone literally is ignorant to something , me included.
Man.. this is the problem. I'm sure you are a cool guy and that u didnt do it with the purpose to really diss me (like myrealname is doing right now, like a kid!). When we have a good discussion, i can even understand it. But the problem is that PERSONALLY i dont want to read this shit from a mod. You know what i mean? It's not that you are a bad guy or something like that. You are a bad MOD if you diss guys like that. I know you are like that. But maybe this aint perfect for a mod. You know what i mean? Btw it's all cool now. I havent even read the topic you are all talking about so i cant add more. Peace.
EXAMPLE:
Bush can be a racist too. I dunno, maybe he hates Islamics. I dont know and it's not important. But he CANT SAY FUCK ISLAM! You know what i mean? Because of his role.
You did something like that. You cant diss other peoples, even if you right. Because of your role. You did it, but it's all cool now. After a pair of months you explained me how you are and it's all ok. Personally, I aint mad at you.
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what brownpride said is basically my argument.....it's obvious the only people who want me off are the same people who disagree with me on various topics and carry personal vendetas...obvious, i ADMITTED i was wrong for letting it go that far.... I ADMITTED that, and like brow pride said, i let it go, the only time i responded back was to tell them to go back to the topic...and when tha7th laid into my city....I DID EVERYTHIN YOU TOLD ME TO OVERSEER, EVERYTHING!!!!!!
and kvb if i'm so ignorant about music and your so smart , simply tell me this , what are the 4 BASIC notes on a bass beat, in consecutive order....simple question....that anyone who knows production will know
and i-bo , did i ever claim i was some super producer? No i said i know alot about music and the way it was produced.....but i will take you up on your little offer....ps i dont appreciate that little immature diss
OH YEAH btw overseer, like brownpride stated earlier, i ALWAYS fuckin said 'this is not a diss' or 'this is nothing personal against you' when i said something about them......yet they blatently diss me ...hmmmm think about that overseer....think back to what, 3 months ago when you banned Antonio when he dissed you (same exact situation i do believe). so i don't see the difference here overseer
i warned the dudes lord knows how many times and didn't buligerantly diss them, but they did. But i get punished....but you get dissed by antonio and he's all the sudden banned that's BS. i could see if i did that at the spur of the moment and did that shit all th time, but the fact is (a proven fact at that) i don't, and if you notice things were alot more smooth once we got new moderaters , if i was the problem last time don't you think i'd continue?? The fact of the matter is EVERY SINGLE MODERATOR HERE locks and deletes more than me.
and about my egotism, don't you think you'd have some arrogance if you knew you knew more about music than other people, hell that's why tanjint stopped posting here because he was growing musically and was sick of hearig about snoop dogg....maybe i need to put that in check then, oh well
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Man.. this is the problem. I'm sure you are a cool guy and that u didnt do it with the purpose to really diss me (like myrealname is doing right now, like a kid!). When we have a good discussion, i can even understand it. But the problem is that PERSONALLY i dont want to read this shit from a mod. You know what i mean? It's not that you are a bad guy or something like that. You are a bad MOD if you diss guys like that. I know you are like that. But maybe this aint perfect for a mod. You know what i mean? Btw it's all cool now. I havent even read the topic you are all talking about so i cant add more. Peace.
EXAMPLE:
Bush can be a racist too. I dunno, maybe he hates Islamics. I dont know and it's not important. But he CANT SAY FUCK ISLAM! You know what i mean? Because of his role.
You did something like that. You cant diss other peoples, even if you right. Because of your role. You did it, but it's all cool now. After a pair of months you explained me how you are and it's all ok. Personally, I aint mad at you.
dude all i got to say is look at most of the post against me and tech
you'll see this:
tech: your a bitch your a foool your brain washed , fuck fuck fck shit shit shit cnn horse shit nazi ...
me:dude tech shut up, quit being so bulligerant and immature with all that name calling, act like an adult
i've been doing that ALOT recently, playing the bigger man read just about any recent debate with me in it and you'll see what i mean
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and about my egotism, don't you think you'd have some arrogance if you knew you knew more about music than other people
i kinda sorta know what you mean. i left the board for a while because i was bored of the snoop and dre groupie shit, plus i had other shit to do. BUT then again this is a west coast hip hop board, its not a music appreciation forum or a Beethoven Comments board so now i take what's posted with a grain of salt. If everyone talks about snoop, or they like someone i think is garbage, i dont really care.
and btw, im sure i know more than most, if not all of the members about the music business, but you dont see me rubbing it in peoples faces everytime someone disagrees with me.
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i'm not rubbing anything or forcing anything down anyone's throat...i even said that
i said something
someone didn't argree with wwhat i had to say, and asked mewhere i was coming from with that and i told them
i did the same thing you woulda done if someone said 'the independent scene is gay'
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(in response to the last two posts.. about "knowing music")
and about my egotism, don't you think you'd have some arrogance if you knew you knew more about music than other people,
I understand that statement, but let me turn it around for ya real quick.
You guys (I Bo, Jake, etc) MAKE music with the hopes of making it big and thats dope. But why would you be arrogant to the people who you hope would buy your music? Are the people who buy the music (target market) anywhere near as knowledgable (about making music) as you guys or any producer for that matter? No. In other words, be more HUMBLE and listen to the people who dont know music like you do. Their opinion is more important cuz they are buying the music.
If you ask me, the majority of people who buy music, do it because it sounds good to them. It gets no deeper then that. RZA is dope.. but most people just want something that sounds good to them. Liking RZA takes a really special person who digs deep into music. Someone deep like I Bo.
Lets take RZA for example. I think he is an amazing producer, but I dont really dig him. I have been able to find the talent in his production because I have an EAR for music. Im WAAAY deeper them most who buy music and I dont produce or know as much about it as you guys.
How can we expect the avarage person who buys music to dig deep enough into a producer like RZA to figure out why hes dope? I have ALL Wu Tang joints (even Wu affiliates.. tons of shit) and I just had to keep buyin them cuz I knew one day, my EAR would find it. I knew Id find what makes RZA dope to people like I Bo. I have done that and still determine that hes not my style. Most people who buy music wont go through this in order to dig music. Thats just an example.
The point Im making guys.. is that all the talk about who knows more about production is pointless when the target market is made up of people who know nothing about making music. They just want what sounds good to them. Get it???
Lets all drop the ego and be humble.
Axle
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Axle, that was beautiful. :)
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i can agree about the ego , my whole point is, it's only natural, but i guess i need to cut it
but about the other thing
i'm not saying RZA sucks, i'm just saying it's overrated to call him one of the best producers, when the fact of the matter is there's alot of producers who put more effort and production into their stuff
i think what most people are getting confused here about is, the word overrated, thinking it means, they suck or don't make good music, i'm not saying that. i'm saying it's not right and big injustice to say they're the best at what they do, that's such a blindstatement, that's like saying 2pac is the best MC....which he's not, he's the best raper yeah, but theres a BIG diference between the 2, just like theres a big difference between a dj and a producer......
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...which he's not, he's the best raper yeah,
ROFL
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and about my egotism, don't you think you'd have some arrogance if you knew you knew more about music than other people, hell that's why tanjint stopped posting here because he was growing musically and was sick of hearig about snoop dogg....maybe i need to put that in check then, oh well
maby u should follow tanjint's steps
u said that u know what it takes to make a good beat... my point is that if you cant prove it, u should shut the fuck up....
calling people uneducated is a diss, even if you says later thats you're not attempting to...
maby AxleF is right.. maby some peeps cant just cee the talent RZA have....
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I've sat in on studio sessions before, I've seen first hand how music is made. I've even got to help produce songs before. The producers that I was sitting in with made music in 100's of different ways. They didn't have one set way to do it. They could make a good song in 10 minutes, or in 10 hours. What I'm tryin to say is, who cares how the music is made? I can see Jakes's argument if we were talking about making Rock music or something, but this is hip hop. If the RZA farted into a mic, and made a hot beat out of it, who cares?
Music is art. There is no formula to making art.
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Damn, this shit is crazy. I guess I stand in the middle here. I dont condone what BigJake did in the Illmatic/36 Chambers thread, but I dont think he should have his mod position taken away either. Jake, you know me and your are cool with one another, and I consider you one of the more intelligent heads on here, but sometimes you do come off a little arrogant, lol. Sometimes I do also, but you gotta chill with it a bit. Not everyone is gonna have the same opinion. I know Minority can be a pain [I found that out when ME, Doggystylin, and 7th took him to school in the E.1999 Eternal argument], but just ignore him when he does that. You know its a no win situation. However, its Overseer's board, so.............
P.S. When is Incognito gonna update?? I sent my Liquid Swords review in like a week ago.
Peace
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...hmmmm think about that overseer....think back to what, 3 months ago when you banned Antonio when he dissed you (same exact situation i do believe). so i don't see the difference here overseer
No it's not the same. I had a bad reaction with Overseer cause i felt like he was dissing italians in one of his post (and he did it), but then we talked again in the DPG board and he wasnt trying to really diss italians, so he invited me back in this board. And i accepted it, and now it's all cool with him. Mine was a "personal" thing, not a "musical" thing. But it's ok.
About what u said.. i dont know about the reactions guys are having about your posts, dissing you. Well.. i'm in the same situation. You know.. Myrealname (and all his alter egos nicknames) is dissing me with no reasons in this board. Even in his sig. When i never really dissed him (but Snoop Dogg. I dunno if they are the same person!!!). You know what? Just let that shit go, dont reply. A man who diss another one (expecially with no reasons) is just a fool in my eyes. Not a Gangsta or something like that. This shit is ridiculous. Post your comments and news, and care about them. If some1 diss you, dont reply. Fuck him. Ignore him. CARE ABOUT THE TOPIC! Ok? I know it's not nice, but it's the best thing, since Overseer cant really ban people (see myrealname).
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...hmmmm think about that overseer....think back to what, 3 months ago when you banned Antonio when he dissed you (same exact situation i do believe). so i don't see the difference here overseer
There is a big difference, to paraphrase you...
(bigjake emulation mode on)
YOU are ignorant to the facts
1) I was never involved in either discussion.
2) I wasn't dissed in this discussion.
3) When Antonio was banned it wasn't an argument over something, I was trying to resolve the fighting between him and myrealname.
Obviously its plain to anyone who followed it closely at the time., and IF you can read like me - which I'm obviously better at because I've done english classes and I live in england so my english has GOT to be better. Oh and i'm older so of course I know best.
bah.. why do i even bother wasting my time on you ignorant uneducated peons.
(bigjake emulation mode off)
since Overseer cant really ban people (see myrealname).
not anymore ;)
I've taken steps to make this more difficult.
I have what seems to be a pretty effective system going now.
He will be able to get back on if he works out a way around it... I think he has, but I can still spot him easily. I think he might have got the message.
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dude all i got to say is look at most of the post against me and tech
you'll see this:
tech: your a bitch your a foool your brain washed , fuck fuck fck shit shit shit cnn horse shit nazi ...
me:dude tech shut up, quit being so bulligerant and immature with all that name calling, act like an adult
i've been doing that ALOT recently, playing the bigger man read just about any recent debate with me in it and you'll see what i mean
the only reason i went off on you in those posts, were cuz u were bringing up my old threads like a bitch in some sort of vain attempt to diss me, dont front punk
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There is a big difference, to paraphrase you...
(bigjake emulation mode on)
YOU are ignorant to the facts
1) I was never involved in either discussion.
2) I wasn't dissed in this discussion.
3) When Antonio was banned it wasn't an argument over something, I was trying to resolve the fighting between him and myrealname.
Obviously its plain to anyone who followed it closely at the time., and IF you can read like me - which I'm obviously better at because I've done english classes and I live in england so my english has GOT to be better. Oh and i'm older so of course I know best.
bah.. why do i even bother wasting my time on you ignorant uneducated peons.
(bigjake emulation mode off)
not anymore ;)
I've taken steps to make this more difficult.
I have what seems to be a pretty effective system going now.
He will be able to get back on if he works out a way around it... I think he has, but I can still spot him easily. I think he might have got the message.
LOL
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first of all bigfakedoggydogg....i NEVER got banned from this board ever (ask overseer) i accidentally deleted my own account before but never banned
and don't try to push off what you did...you blantly said what you said to get your mod position taken away...shit you should be lucky you even had all those chances cuz this ain't the first time you did this i mean i remember when i was a mod..i got my position taken away on one mistake......so fuck off....
and gayrazor....like i've told you before when you learn there's hip-hop OUTSIDE of bone THEN you come talk to me otherwise stop being fake and act like you know hip-hop when you got bone's dick all in your mouth....you schooled me on the bone thread?????....LMAO!!!! sure internet tuff guy... ::)
you did a liquid sword review???? LMAO!!!!! ::)
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first of all bigfakedoggydogg....i NEVER got banned from this board ever (ask overseer) i accidentally deleted my own account before but never banned
and don't try to push off what you did...you blantly said what you said to get your mod position taken away...shit you should be lucky you even had all those chances cuz this ain't the first time you did this i mean i remember when i was a mod..i got my position taken away on one mistake......so fuck off....
and gayrazor....like i've told you before when you learn there's hip-hop OUTSIDE of bone THEN you come talk to me otherwise stop being fake and act like you know hip-hop when you got bone's dick all in your mouth....you schooled me on the bone thread?????....LMAO!!!! sure internet tuff guy... ::)
you did a liquid sword review???? LMAO!!!!! ::)
That "gayrazor" think is getting pretty old, dont you think?? Anyway, yes, I DID school you in the Eternal arguement, and everyone on this board knows it. I dont know hiphop outside of Bone?? ROFLMAO at you. Bone aint even my fav group/artist kid, I just know good music when I hear it. You put your foot in your mouth every time you post. Damn, now I see why Jake went off on your sorry ass. Punkass bastard.
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first of all bigfakedoggydogg....i NEVER got banned from this board ever (ask overseer) i accidentally deleted my own account before but never banned
yuppppp
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That "gayrazor" think is getting pretty old, dont you think?? Anyway, yes, I DID school you in the Eternal arguement, and everyone on this board knows it. I dont know hiphop outside of Bone?? ROFLMAO at you. Bone aint even my fav group/artist kid, I just know good music when I hear it. You put your foot in your mouth every time you post. Damn, now I see why Jake went off on your sorry ass. Punkass bastard.
hahahaha youre too funny....sure internet gangsta.....LMAO!!! keep thinking the fake...btw i really don't think anybody respects you after what you have said at the y2khip-hop board...you're a fake...worse than a teenybopper.....and the only music you know is BONE...and bigfakedoggydogg is the ONLY person that respect you cuz he DON'T know shit about hip-hop either....LMAO!!!
school me on the bone thread????? bwahahahaha yeah sure boy...whatever you say....LMAO@general consensus.....
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Ok, i think my balls cant survive another internet war like that in the next 10 days! LOL. We already said everything we had to say. So stop it here, please! It aint related to music no more! ;)
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cuz he DON'T know shit about hip-hop either....LMAO!!!
good i'm glad i don't limit myself to JUST hiphop