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Title: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 07:58:14 AM
Interesting
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on November 23, 2005, 08:26:51 AM
man, marlins are in a major restructuring mode
about to trade away beckett and lowell to the red sox and now delgado to the mets
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 23, 2005, 09:41:56 AM
man, marlins are in a major restructuring mode
about to trade away beckett and lowell to the red sox and now delgado to the mets

Omar Minaya = God.... as a mets fan i hate givin up Jacobs but WE FINALLY HAVE A BIG BAT... FINALLY A LEGIT BIG BAT.  But word the marlins are dumping everyone, they cant afford to keep the team they have and are knocking the payroll down to about 40 million.  Expect Luis Castillio and Paul La Duca to be on different teams come the start of the 2006 season.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 11:41:56 AM
man, marlins are in a major restructuring mode
about to trade away beckett and lowell to the red sox and now delgado to the mets

Omar Minaya = God.... as a mets fan i hate givin up Jacobs but WE FINALLY HAVE A BIG BAT... FINALLY A LEGIT BIG BAT.  But word the marlins are dumping everyone, they cant afford to keep the team they have and are knocking the payroll down to about 40 million.  Expect Luis Castillio and Paul La Duca to be on different teams come the start of the 2006 season.

They are having trouble trading Lo Duca.  So much for people loving heart and soul
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 23, 2005, 12:37:09 PM
man, marlins are in a major restructuring mode
about to trade away beckett and lowell to the red sox and now delgado to the mets

Omar Minaya = God.... as a mets fan i hate givin up Jacobs but WE FINALLY HAVE A BIG BAT... FINALLY A LEGIT BIG BAT.  But word the marlins are dumping everyone, they cant afford to keep the team they have and are knocking the payroll down to about 40 million.  Expect Luis Castillio and Paul La Duca to be on different teams come the start of the 2006 season.

They are having trouble trading Lo Duca.  So much for people loving heart and soul
people dont want lo duca b/c he usually falls off the 2nd half of the season.  His bat falls asleep come the 2nd half of the season, and that is when a lot of people start to run on him.  As a mets fan i wouldnt mind Lo Duca but i rather see ramon hernadez or bring piazza back.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 12:38:13 PM
That is what i was saying whenthe Dodgers traded him lol.  But people called me crazy
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Perfection on November 23, 2005, 01:11:20 PM
The Mets did get kind of screwed in this deal & apparently a lot of GMs around the league agree. Reason being is that the Mets were the only tem in the Delgado sweepstakes & they end up giving their best pitching prospect. The Mets shouldn't have done that cause the feeling around the league is that the Mets could've gotten Delgado cheaper from the Marlins cause the Mets were doing a service for the Marlins in taking on all of Delgado's contract. It's good that the Mets have added another bat in theline up but they didn't have to give up what they did to get Delgado
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 02:24:05 PM
1B Related.  The Dodgers are either thinking about keeping Aybar or Choi.  Whoever they choose will dictate what FA or Future Trade will be coming to the team.  The answer should be Choi.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: WestCoasta on November 23, 2005, 02:40:57 PM
knowing the penny pincher, we probably won't get him

but I hope we can get Juan Pierre..... he'd add a little spark to this team of loners
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 02:51:07 PM
Pierre is a downgrade to Bradley. 
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: WestCoasta on November 23, 2005, 02:54:09 PM
he had a down year last year, but if he can pull off a year like he had 2-3 before last, I'd take hm over Bradley any day

Bradley is just a .260 hitter who might hit 25 homers.......... and obviously he's got a screw loose and he pulls the race card  ;D

I used to like Bradley even when he acted like an idiot but that shit this year proves he'll never learn his lesson
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on November 23, 2005, 02:54:38 PM
i think the Marlins ar erumoured to be moving outta Florida by 2008 because they want their own stadium and they cant get it, so they're lookin for a new home.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 02:59:01 PM
lol nah man pierre is definetaly a downgrade to Bradley being in CF. 
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: WestCoasta on November 23, 2005, 03:07:05 PM
lol nah man pierre is definetaly a downgrade to Bradley being in CF. 

alright obviously I'm not gonna change your opinion.... but at least admit that it would bring speed and some god damn change to this team, they look so boring!
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 23, 2005, 03:47:13 PM
The Mets did get kind of screwed in this deal & apparently a lot of GMs around the league agree. Reason being is that the Mets were the only tem in the Delgado sweepstakes & they end up giving their best pitching prospect. The Mets shouldn't have done that cause the feeling around the league is that the Mets could've gotten Delgado cheaper from the Marlins cause the Mets were doing a service for the Marlins in taking on all of Delgado's contract. It's good that the Mets have added another bat in theline up but they didn't have to give up what they did to get Delgado
yusmerio petit... a lot of scouts have him as a 4th started at best.  He has average stuff but he is dominating the minors b/c he has a deceptive delivery.  Once he gets to the bigs he will get figured out.  He does have good comand of his pitches and good control but none of his pitches will make you say wow.  Plus we have  3 other pitching prospects that scouts have higher ceiling on, pelfry, humber, and gaby hernandez.  Plus brian banister isnt to shabby himself.  Also the marlins agreed to pay 7 million of Delgado's contract.  The mets arent paying the whole thing.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 23, 2005, 03:50:51 PM
What does speed and bringing spark do to an offfense though.  I want to see productivity.  Id rather have 9 Dejesus' or 9 bradleys over 9 pierres
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: WestCoasta on November 24, 2005, 01:47:14 AM
What does speed and bringing spark do to an offfense though.  I want to see productivity.  Id rather have 9 Dejesus' or 9 bradleys over 9 pierres
damn didn't u watch the 2003 playoffs?   without Pierre the Marlins don't win.... he stole bases, bunted and all that shit

for 3 straight years he had like 200 hits and a gang of stolen bases.......... I just think it would more creativy and difference rather than an occasional homerun
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 24, 2005, 08:03:51 AM
Bradley always had more potential but never fully put it together.  Pierre is the better all around ball player.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2005, 08:38:24 AM
03 marlins had fantastic pitching an amazing infield, and the emergence of Cabrera.  Teams win because they score runs.  My god, a healthy bradley is a better player than Pierre...its not really taht difficult to see. 
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 24, 2005, 10:41:50 AM
I still think pierre is the better all around ball player.  You have to look at the intangbles pierre brings to the table.  With the speed he has, he's a spark plug when he gets on base things happen.  You dont have that same affect with bradley.  Plus bradley's attitude could be detrimental to a team.  Also the Pierre has proven he can stay healthy.  he has played everyday the past 3 seasons.  Bradley only has one healthy season under his belt.  On the field performance power wise Bradley has this by a long shot but his power isnt to impressive but its a nice stat.  He can hit for doubles though.  Speed wise it's not even close Pierre is one of the fastest in the league.  Glove wise its a push.  Both have great gloves an get jumps on the ball but pierre is gold glove caliber.  Arm wise my sister throws harder then pierre and bradley has a great arm.  Small, Pierre is very good. You cant ask for a ball player to be better at small ball like pierre.  I cant speak for Bradley on that b/c i have seen a lot more of Pierre then i have Bradley.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2005, 12:04:12 PM
Im tired of intangibles...thats all the dodgers were in the 90s, players with heart, soul, intangibles blah blah blah, didnt give us shit. 
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 24, 2005, 01:22:35 PM
I still think pierre is the better all around ball player.  You have to look at the intangbles pierre brings to the table.  With the speed he has, he's a spark plug when he gets on base things happen.  You dont have that same affect with bradley.  Plus bradley's attitude could be detrimental to a team.  Also the Pierre has proven he can stay healthy.  he has played everyday the past 3 seasons.  Bradley only has one healthy season under his belt.  On the field performance power wise Bradley has this by a long shot but his power isnt to impressive but its a nice stat.  He can hit for doubles though.  Speed wise it's not even close Pierre is one of the fastest in the league.  Glove wise its a push.  Both have great gloves an get jumps on the ball but pierre is gold glove caliber.  Arm wise my sister throws harder then pierre and bradley has a great arm.  Small, Pierre is very good. You cant ask for a ball player to be better at small ball like pierre.  I cant speak for Bradley on that b/c i have seen a lot more of Pierre then i have Bradley.

Exactly, WHEN he gets on base, which he hardly ever does. He can't hit, can't get on base, has a horrible arm in CF. All he can do is run. Bradley>Pierre. A Furby>Pierre

Plus his name sucks.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 24, 2005, 05:20:15 PM
I still think pierre is the better all around ball player.  You have to look at the intangbles pierre brings to the table.  With the speed he has, he's a spark plug when he gets on base things happen.  You dont have that same affect with bradley.  Plus bradley's attitude could be detrimental to a team.  Also the Pierre has proven he can stay healthy.  he has played everyday the past 3 seasons.  Bradley only has one healthy season under his belt.  On the field performance power wise Bradley has this by a long shot but his power isnt to impressive but its a nice stat.  He can hit for doubles though.  Speed wise it's not even close Pierre is one of the fastest in the league.  Glove wise its a push.  Both have great gloves an get jumps on the ball but pierre is gold glove caliber.  Arm wise my sister throws harder then pierre and bradley has a great arm.  Small, Pierre is very good. You cant ask for a ball player to be better at small ball like pierre.  I cant speak for Bradley on that b/c i have seen a lot more of Pierre then i have Bradley.

Exactly, WHEN he gets on base, which he hardly ever does. He can't hit, can't get on base, has a horrible arm in CF. All he can do is run. Bradley>Pierre. A Furby>Pierre

Plus his name sucks.
career 305 hitter who had a off year.  Career 360 OBP.  I guess he sucks
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 24, 2005, 06:29:58 PM
I think what the player has done in the most recent season is a better example to go by.

But you're right about one thing, he does suck.
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2005, 06:39:05 PM
Only 2004 he was an above average player, and all the rest of his years hes been below average.  Id rather see the Dodgers Trade for Jason Michaels
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 24, 2005, 08:00:30 PM
Only 2004 he was an above average player, and all the rest of his years hes been below average.  Id rather see the Dodgers Trade for Jason Michaels
LMFAO below average, fuck outta here
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Javier on November 24, 2005, 08:13:49 PM


These are his OPS+   (100 being Average, > above average, <below average

2000- 55
2001- 89
2002- 65
2003- 98
2004- 107
2005- 84


That puts him at a career 87 OPS+ player.  The amount of SB's he gets doesnt make up for his value to a team
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: I Am The Anton on November 24, 2005, 08:15:45 PM


These are his OPS+   (100 being Average, > above average, <below average

2000- 55
2001- 89
2002- 65
2003- 98
2004- 107
2005- 84


That puts him at a career 87 OPS+ player.  The amount of SB's he gets doesnt make up for his value to a team

BOOM!!! HEAD SHOT!!!!!
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: Perfection on November 26, 2005, 12:33:08 PM
Now Delgado doesn't come on to the field until after the national athem & doesn't stand for God Bless America. I wonder how that's going to go over in New York?
Title: Re: Mets to Acquire Delgado
Post by: herpes on November 26, 2005, 03:41:24 PM
Now Delgado doesn't come on to the field until after the national athem & doesn't stand for God Bless America. I wonder how that's going to go over in New York?
he stands for the national anthem, he dont stand for god bless america.  But he told the team he'll do what they want him too.  But moist mets fans could give 2 shits as long as he hits the ball. ive only come across a couple of people that dont like him at b/c of that.  But those people i can count on one hand.