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Title: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: westkoastanostra on November 30, 2005, 12:55:58 AM
is on nwa-tna.....and so is jackie gayda :banana_dss:
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 30, 2005, 01:14:33 AM
TNA said he was the biggest star they've signed. He hasn't been quite the ratings grabber they thought he would be.

Now if they secured Hogan, and the almost did, his star power would of done some good for the company. Vince smartened up and cut a deal with Hulk so that never happened.

Oh, Gail Kim is there too  ;D
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: -Euthanasia- on November 30, 2005, 03:12:27 AM
they need rocky maivia
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Post by: Shallow on November 30, 2005, 08:50:33 AM
TNA said he was the biggest star they've signed. He hasn't been quite the ratings grabber they thought he would be.

Now if they secured Hogan, and the almost did, his star power would of done some good for the company. Vince smartened up and cut a deal with Hulk so that never happened.

Oh, Gail Kim is there too  ;D


Christian's still a great guy to have long term, while Hogan could end up doing a lot of damage like he did in WCW.
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Post by: Rudki on November 30, 2005, 09:21:53 AM
TNA said he was the biggest star they've signed. He hasn't been quite the ratings grabber they thought he would be.


thats because wwe basically shitted on him in his last few months....I was in attendance for a UK taping, and the crowd went nuts for Christian during his match (against batista) and in his promo......every time batista got in offence we all boo'd.....i came home to watch the show, and that had all been edited....they fucked with the crowd volume levels (that sucks) and so you couldnt tell christian was so over..

perhaps christian doesnt have the "look" wwe want for a champ, what I do know is he was a great worker, and very funny  8)
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: P Nelson on November 30, 2005, 09:38:16 AM
He is Captain Charisma there...
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on November 30, 2005, 10:12:55 AM
No doubt, I'm not taking credit from the guy. I was pissed when they took away his push.
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Post by: Rudki on November 30, 2005, 11:00:11 AM
No doubt, I'm not taking credit from the guy. I was pissed when they took away his push.

yaeh, on a side note, did you get the Bret Hart DVD?

If not its a must get..great documentary and over 18 matches (loads of classics v mr perfect/bulldog/owen/austin)
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Post by: -Euthanasia- on November 30, 2005, 12:19:18 PM
^^the jake one is very good too. nice documentary if not a lil sad
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Post by: Mo Z. Dizzle on December 01, 2005, 07:02:59 PM
i saw his debut on TNA impact...i keep missin the TNA show tho on Spike TV lol
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 01, 2005, 07:09:18 PM
I want the Bret Hart DVD. Looks good. I need the Ric Flair & Shawn Michaels too.
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Rudki on December 03, 2005, 05:30:36 PM
I want the Bret Hart DVD. Looks good. I need the Ric Flair & Shawn Michaels too.

All 3 Are Great.

Flairs you'll enjoy if you like the old school NWA matches......also it has the full length version of the best rumble ever (RR 1992')

Shawns one is great, although alot less matches.


tons of easter eggs on the flair( a segment where everyone at wwe tries flairs WOOOOOO, hilarious)  and hart ones
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Post by: Perfection on December 03, 2005, 07:33:03 PM
He's still known as Captain Charisma in TNA, so why the formerly Captain Charisma in the title?
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: -Euthanasia- on December 07, 2005, 03:35:25 AM
hey sik, whos that chic
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 07, 2005, 03:39:07 AM
Alizee. Her mouth is heaven  :banana_dsf:
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Post by: -Euthanasia- on December 07, 2005, 03:49:04 AM
real boobies?
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 07, 2005, 03:50:16 AM
I think so
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Post by: -Euthanasia- on December 07, 2005, 03:50:43 AM
very nice
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Post by: Trauma-san on December 08, 2005, 06:33:45 AM
Christian committed suicide by going there.  It was pathetic to see his debut on TNA, just everything nice about him in the wwe was basically gone.  I'm sure he can still wrestle, but TNA's not doing anything exciting.  Batista calls AJ Style's matches "Train Wrecks" and I have to agree.  Spot after Spot after Spot after Spot.  The guy's extremely talented but that's not the way wrestling works.  Trish Stratus just yesterday called the 6 sided ring a gimmick, and it's the truth.  It doesn't enhance wrestling, it's just a gimmick, something they're trying to do different. 

When they had their Thursday night show, they showed Hogan, The Macho Man, Roddy Piper, etc. as their first three guys on the promo.  Nevermind that none of those three are in the company, they just wanted to get the pop from what they KNOW are the type of wrestlers that get people to watch.  EVEN THEY KNOW IT. 
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Post by: Shallow on December 08, 2005, 08:41:59 AM
Christian committed suicide by going there.  It was pathetic to see his debut on TNA, just everything nice about him in the wwe was basically gone.  I'm sure he can still wrestle, but TNA's not doing anything exciting.  Batista calls AJ Style's matches "Train Wrecks" and I have to agree.  Spot after Spot after Spot after Spot.  The guy's extremely talented but that's not the way wrestling works.  Trish Stratus just yesterday called the 6 sided ring a gimmick, and it's the truth.  It doesn't enhance wrestling, it's just a gimmick, something they're trying to do different. 

When they had their Thursday night show, they showed Hogan, The Macho Man, Roddy Piper, etc. as their first three guys on the promo.  Nevermind that none of those three are in the company, they just wanted to get the pop from what they KNOW are the type of wrestlers that get people to watch.  EVEN THEY KNOW IT. 



Christian has said in interviews that TNA or no TNA he would have left WWE. He's getting sick of travelling all the time, wrestling so many matches, and gettinbg buried by creative. With TNA he wrestlers 2 or 3 times a month and he just has to drive an hour from his house to get to the match.

And Batista is just taking pot shots. AJ could wrestle fucking circles around Dave. Watch his ROH matches to see why. Spot after spot after spot maybe so, but AJ can still work a story if need be, Batista couldn't fucking read a picture book. The only time he's even passable is when he's getting carried by a much greater worker like HHH, or Benoit. Watch AJ vs Samoa Joe this sunday and you'll see an amazing match.

And the 6 sided ring is nothing new. Mexico has had a promotion with it for years. It's not a gimmick anymore than a 4 sided ring is, it just gives TNA a unique look. Of course they haven't amounted to much yet, they've only been on national TV for a few months. Give it a year or two. McMahon had an established territory and Hulk fucking Hogan and it took him 3 years to take the lead on the Crocketts in the early 80s.
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on December 08, 2005, 08:58:11 AM
WWE = Sucks

people only watch it cus there aint no competition yet jus wait a year or two when tna really gets on its feet!
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Post by: Kal EL on December 08, 2005, 09:16:40 AM
they need rocky maivia
^^^^^
we can only wish
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Post by: P Nelson on December 08, 2005, 10:19:05 AM
WWE = Sucks

people only watch it cus there aint no competition yet jus wait a year or two when tna really gets on its feet!

Ya, it's your opinion but i HAVE to disagree... I think wrestling is actually good now... Sure theres some corny moments but wasnt GOldust gimmick corny?
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Post by: Dreamz on December 08, 2005, 12:12:07 PM
TNA is oof the hook....mainly the X division
They got the likes of
AJ STYLES,CHRIS SABIN, FALLEN ANGEL,
PETEY WILLAMS....AND  a lot more
the only way i see wwe beating TNA is if the bring
back  a shit load of stuff like the hardcore title and things
like that...but like they all said just give it a good two years
and TNA will Be unstopable
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: -Euthanasia- on December 09, 2005, 04:18:08 AM
all that x division stuff and they have sabu rolling around in barbed wire. diversity rules

anybody who says aj or chris daniels or samoa joe or sabin or baby bear cant work a match simply doesnt know what they're talking about. true there are guys who rely on the high spot stuff to get by and arent really that good - im talking to you sonjay!!! - but for the most part, the top guys in the X division know wrestling psychology too
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Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on December 11, 2005, 03:16:02 AM
The match was good, aint no doubt about it and now ur gonna have a rivalry wit him and the alphamale it's gon b tight. I didnt think TNA was that good, they are very technical and high flying.
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Post by: Denial! Is Actively Joinin The Revolution on December 11, 2005, 03:37:44 AM
WWE = Sucks

people only watch it cus there aint no competition yet jus wait a year or two when tna really gets on its feet!

Ya, it's your opinion but i HAVE to disagree... I think wrestling is actually good now... Sure theres some corny moments but wasnt GOldust gimmick corny?

Nah its not cus its corny it jus really is poor i have been watchin wrestlin all my life and im not gonna b a person to say its not as good as it woz bk in the early 90's cus my fav era woz between 1999-2002 so many classic feuds and u actually loved or hated the people, wwe doesnt know who to book in matches now like how long has orton been feudin wit undertaker now? that shit is ridiculous! The wwe finds some great talents and screws it up for them like Christy Hemme who they released last week? think of all the wrestlers they get rid of and the ones they push? Edge is borin to watch now he used to be good as a tag team and wen he went solo in 2002 but now i jus cant b assed to watch his matches,
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 11, 2005, 03:40:19 AM
The X Division is the only saving grace of TNA. I can't see them getting big though. WWE=wrestling in the eyes of people who arent familiar with wrestling. TNA doesnt have a big bank account like Ted Turner, so I don't see it happening.
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Post by: westkoastanostra on December 11, 2005, 01:10:11 PM
i think wwe needs to bring one man back to make it better.....and ur lookin at him chico!
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Post by: Perfection on December 11, 2005, 09:39:28 PM
The X Division is the only saving grace of TNA. I can't see them getting big though. WWE=wrestling in the eyes of people who arent familiar with wrestling. TNA doesnt have a big bank account like Ted Turner, so I don't see it happening.

TNA is owned by Panda Energy which is a billion dollar company, so TNA does have the potential to spend the big bucks. Hell they just signed Sting to a 1 year $500,000 contract
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 11, 2005, 11:30:21 PM
The X Division is the only saving grace of TNA. I can't see them getting big though. WWE=wrestling in the eyes of people who arent familiar with wrestling. TNA doesnt have a big bank account like Ted Turner, so I don't see it happening.

TNA is owned by Panda Energy which is a billion dollar company, so TNA does have the potential to spend the big bucks. Hell they just signed Sting to a 1 year $500,000 contract

Well they don't have the networks to be televised on like Turner provided. That's whats hurting them.
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Post by: -Euthanasia- on December 13, 2005, 08:54:40 AM
tna is on the network that wwe was on a few months ago.

samoa joe vs aj was the bomb diggy
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Post by: $do11a biLL$ on December 13, 2005, 09:04:32 AM
wwe needs the hardcore belt back
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Post by: Shallow on December 13, 2005, 09:24:11 AM
tna is on the network that wwe was on a few months ago.

samoa joe vs aj was the bomb diggy


Yeah but 1 hour a week in a bad timeslot with little promotion isn't going to cut it. Then need at least a 2 hour show in a prime time slot, and have plenty of commercials for the show every week.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2005, 10:38:40 AM
I forget TNA is on. SOmetimes I'm able to catch it and I dont remember it.
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Post by: Kal EL on December 13, 2005, 12:42:04 PM
couple of things that could help TNA become major...

1. lose the 6 sided ring except for the X division.

2. Sign the Rock. Do whatever it takes. if you sign him YOU will draw Investors. Remember when Hogan got Hall and Nash with him in WCW. The same thing can happen in TNA.

3. Sign Paul Heyman. Dude has one of the most creative wrestling minds of all time, period.

4. Snatch up the following when they're contracts expire SOON; Benoit, Booker T, Jericho(he's free now), Rey Meystiero.

5. this one is KEY. QUIT putting the belt around Jeff Jarret. I get enough of that crap with HHH. I don't need to see WWE junior. Put around AJ Styles, Captain Chrisma, etc...
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: P Nelson on December 13, 2005, 03:15:13 PM
If they get Rey Mysterio, WWE lost.
Title: Re: christian cage formerly captain charisma.....
Post by: Perfection on December 13, 2005, 06:05:51 PM
couple of things that could help TNA become major...

1. lose the 6 sided ring except for the X division.

2. Sign the Rock. Do whatever it takes. if you sign him YOU will draw Investors. Remember when Hogan got Hall and Nash with him in WCW. The same thing can happen in TNA.

3. Sign Paul Heyman. Dude has one of the most creative wrestling minds of all time, period.

4. Snatch up the following when they're contracts expire SOON; Benoit, Booker T, Jericho(he's free now), Rey Meystiero.

5. this one is KEY. QUIT putting the belt around Jeff Jarret. I get enough of that crap with HHH. I don't need to see WWE junior. Put around AJ Styles, Captain Chrisma, etc...

Here's the problems with all of your ideas

On your second point about the Rock, he's not coming to TNA ever. He's too interested in making movies & doesn't want anything to do with wrestling at the moment. TNA has tried calling him, but he never returns their phone calls.

On your 3rd point about Paul Heyman, WWE is going to give one last offer to try & keep him away, but Heyman probably won't take it. He has a couple of movie scripts waiting to be picked up by a production company, MMA has shown interest in picking up Heyman & Heyman seems to like the idea of starting his own promotion that combines MMA & wrestling. It's going to be tough for TNA to sign him.

On your 4th point about the guys TNA needs to sign, it's not going to happen. Booker T has said he's going to retire once his WWE contract is up. Benoit is either going to resign with WWE or go to Japan. Cause those in the back are only worried about Benoit going to Japan & if the market in Japan isn't there for him, then he's staying in WWE. As for Jericho, he's enjoying life outside of wrestling too much that he doesn't see himself returning soon. Also he has said he's in the WWE for life & that when he returns it will be with WWE. & Rey Mysterio's contract isn't even up for a few years, so it's not worth discussing.

On your 5th point, AJ Styles has said that he'd rather be the X Champion instead of the Heavyweight Champion
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Post by: Sikotic™ on December 13, 2005, 06:18:48 PM
I don't blame AJ Styles. Being World Champ means wrestling Double J every week. That can be a recurring nightmare.